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Post by Ginger Ogre on Oct 25, 2024 12:41:25 GMT 1
Genuinely no idea why anyone thinks goal music will improve the atmosphere. All it'll do is add a bit of extra (fake) noise for a few seconds and that's it. That isn't an atmosphere I think the drummer in the kilner bank would outdrum the music if we had it anyway. That goes off before the ball hits the net sometimes and almost kills any goal celebration to get the crowd straight into a chant. Drives me mad, this. Stops the cheer immediately as the song takes over. Give it a minute at least! |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Oct 25, 2024 12:43:08 GMT 1
I think the drummer in the kilner bank would outdrum the music if we had it anyway. That goes off before the ball hits the net sometimes and almost kills any goal celebration to get the crowd straight into a chant. Drives me mad, this. Stops the cheer immediately as the song takes over. Give it a minute at least! Totally agree. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Oct 25, 2024 12:45:13 GMT 1
Patience. That’s what KN is now saying. Changed his tune from premier league in three years. I wish I could understand why a billionaire has bought our club. It’s clear he didn’t want to spend and give us the pace and quality required up front. I genuinely believe if we had that we would go up. Once more KN backtracks …….. Can I ask, in your first couple of years directing, if some self appointed expert , because they’d watched some TV, was criticising your work all over social media, how would have you reacted? I’m getting the impression that you wouldn’t have acted kindly. |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Oct 25, 2024 12:48:57 GMT 1
We never had a problem with atmosphere during the promotion season, or when we were in the Premier League so the current layout has nothing to do with it being poor.
Its simple really. If fans want an atmosphere its up to them to open their mouths and make some noise.
Atmosphere is also generated by a 'feel', its hard to manufacture it with gimmicks. We've had goal music before (Jarvis tried it I think) and it didn't really help so no matter what they introduce it wont miraculously improve overnight.
If the club want to improve the atmosphere its up to them to create an environment whereby fans feel a connection with those out on the grass and those that are running the place.
The motto is EVERYTHING TOGETHER, but at the moment the reality is that there is still a large percentage of fans that are nowhere near that at the moment.
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Post by ben1987 on Oct 25, 2024 12:55:00 GMT 1
For what it's worth, the club have always been good with the CL and so far that hasn't changed under Nagle. But there is only so much the group can influence or encourage at the moment - again, there HAS to be something to cheer about or it will continue to be muted. It has been too miserable for too long and we are finally seeing the result of that. I've no idea how it's run but just feels like it might help if they were provided some sort of discount on tickets, funding for displays, storage facilities, marketing opportunities, free beer (joking) etc. A cowshed full of enthused, noisy town fans makes all the difference. Let some people in for free for some games if necessary, just fill it! If the product on the pitch is crap there's nothing you can do but if this season goes according to plan we'll be winning way more than we lose and hopefully pushing for promotion. Im going to disagree with you here mate and that’s someone involved in the running of the CL14. You just can’t have one section of fans treated differently, for better or worse, no matter what you’re trying to achieve. The sentiment is great but it’s counter productive, it creates divide and when you have division within the fan base which to an extent we do still have that, it just causes friction. In terms of the Cowshed Loyal which has been mentioned in this thread, there is no lack of effort or desire. However, the last couple of years has really had a deep impact on the whole fan base. Admittedly, it shouldn’t hit the atmosphere because the whole point of a home end and a fan group is to keep that up no matter what. But it’s 58 wins in 160 home games - I’m sorry but no fan base in the world would keep an atmosphere on that level of form. When fans mentioned a relegation reset, the idea that coming into league one would somehow improve things scared me. It’s a farmers league and unless you’re competing for top 2 then it’ll be what we have currently. I look about the stand and stadium during the game and it’s passive, soulless, no energy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very much all those things and it’s because I don’t trust the ‘process’ or running of the club currently (relegated in the first season) and I feel very little togetherness or attachment to these players. It’s so dull and uninspiring to watch. In regards to funding and displays…. We actually made a display over a year ago but haven’t displayed it because the stand is two thirds full and then we got relegated. How can you produce a home end vibe and atmosphere that’s not full and watching something exciting? Theres a misconception with this ownership that they think that the 4300 they quoted aren’t showing up because the prices are reasonable. It’s not the price, it’s the product. I’m increasingly frustrated at how little consideration is given to how bad it’s been since that play off final. Theres a fair bit on social media suggesting the Cowshed Loyals been shite since the first PL season. A fan group cannot keep feeding off scraps and no matter what you think of the atmosphere, it’s everyone’s responsibility and that includes the football club. |
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Post by incognito on Oct 25, 2024 13:10:38 GMT 1
Don't mind the diaries and enjoy any discussion on the wider business developments. Something where the guys have a fresh perspective and a lot of experience. Most interesting part of this update was the stadium. Maybe I misunderstood but sounds like the deal isn't as complete as I thought. And the council and Giants have jumped the gun a little on announcements. But then we have H-Town opening soon and the gas club being demolished. Anyway seems promising and looking forward to more updates. Huddersfield Unlimited was also an interesting snippet. Sounded like Kevin was speaking to them about the stadium and club, but I wonder/hope if he might get more involved. The council, University and business sector plans for the health and well-being developments seem a perfect fit for an investor with Nagles background and contacts. Correct on the stadium. For whatever reason, the council, Giants or the press have incorrectly reported it. Presumably an ulterior motive to put pressure on one side of the deal? Nothing to suggest it won't get done but currently it isn't. The press just (belatedly) got wind of the published meeting minutes from the KMC meeting earlier this month. democracy.kirklees.gov.uk/ieDecisionDetails.aspx?Id=12291Approved by the council, effective 18th October. Inevitably there will then be some amount of legal work to go through in order to formalise it. |
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Post by Dan on Oct 25, 2024 13:14:07 GMT 1
I think the drummer in the kilner bank would outdrum the music if we had it anyway. That goes off before the ball hits the net sometimes and almost kills any goal celebration to get the crowd straight into a chant. Drives me mad, this. Stops the cheer immediately as the song takes over. Give it a minute at least! I'd always thought it was the south stand drummer that started that off after goals went in? One of my bugbears n all. |
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Post by ben1987 on Oct 25, 2024 13:19:02 GMT 1
Drives me mad, this. Stops the cheer immediately as the song takes over. Give it a minute at least! that started that off after goals went in? One of my bugbears n all. How dare you |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Oct 25, 2024 13:19:51 GMT 1
Drives me mad, this. Stops the cheer immediately as the song takes over. Give it a minute at least! I'd always thought it was the south stand drummer that started that off after goals went in? One of my bugbears n all. No mate, always the Kilner guy. Lad from CL knows not to get involved to quickly and if its a big goal its usually carnage down the front so he wouldn't be able to drum anyways!! |
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Post by harri54 on Oct 25, 2024 13:26:29 GMT 1
I've no idea how it's run but just feels like it might help if they were provided some sort of discount on tickets, funding for displays, storage facilities, marketing opportunities, free beer (joking) etc. A cowshed full of enthused, noisy town fans makes all the difference. Let some people in for free for some games if necessary, just fill it! If the product on the pitch is crap there's nothing you can do but if this season goes according to plan we'll be winning way more than we lose and hopefully pushing for promotion. Im going to disagree with you here mate and that’s someone involved in the running of the CL14. You just can’t have one section of fans treated differently, for better or worse, no matter what you’re trying to achieve. The sentiment is great but it’s counter productive, it creates divide and when you have division within the fan base which to an extent we do still have that, it just causes friction. In terms of the Cowshed Loyal which has been mentioned in this thread, there is no lack of effort or desire. However, the last couple of years has really had a deep impact on the whole fan base. Admittedly, it shouldn’t hit the atmosphere because the whole point of a home end and a fan group is to keep that up no matter what. But it’s 58 wins in 160 home games - I’m sorry but no fan base in the world would keep an atmosphere on that level of form. When fans mentioned a relegation reset, the idea that coming into league one would somehow improve things scared me. It’s a farmers league and unless you’re competing for top 2 then it’ll be what we have currently. I look about the stand and stadium during the game and it’s passive, soulless, no energy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very much all those things and it’s because I don’t trust the ‘process’ or running of the club currently (relegated in the first season) and I feel very little togetherness or attachment to these players. It’s so dull and uninspiring to watch. In regards to funding and displays…. We actually made a display over a year ago but haven’t displayed it because the stand is two thirds full and then we got relegated. How can you produce a home end vibe and atmosphere that’s not full and watching something exciting? Theres a misconception with this ownership that they think that the 4300 they quoted aren’t showing up because the prices are reasonable. It’s not the price, it’s the product. I’m increasingly frustrated at how little consideration is given to how bad it’s been since that play off final. Theres a fair bit on social media suggesting the Cowshed Loyals been shite since the first PL season. A fan group cannot keep feeding off scraps and no matter what you think of the atmosphere, it’s everyone’s responsibility and that includes the football club. I have to disagree with you on a few points: funding for displays, storage facilities, marketing opportunities, etc. All good ideas as far as I'm concerned. Yes there are sensitive souls that would take umbrage at cheap tickets in the cowshed, there are some that react adversely when we don't sing, even though they don't! However, cheap tickets are offered for other promotions so why not a 'fill the cowshed with singers' promotion? It was muted in the diary that season card holders not attending might see a scheme to benefit those who perhaps can't attend for financial or similar reasons, well I don't attend very often & my seat in the cowshed will only go, with my approval, to someone who sings! The seat I pay for is not going to a booer under any circumstances!! So any such scheme has to respect my requirements to get my support! |
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Post by runner76 on Oct 25, 2024 13:33:27 GMT 1
We never had a problem with atmosphere during the promotion season, or when we were in the Premier League so the current layout has nothing to do with it being poor. Its simple really. If fans want an atmosphere its up to them to open their mouths and make some noise. Atmosphere is also generated by a 'feel', its hard to manufacture it with gimmicks. We've had goal music before (Jarvis tried it I think) and it didn't really help so no matter what they introduce it wont miraculously improve overnight. If the club want to improve the atmosphere its up to them to create an environment whereby fans feel a connection with those out on the grass and those that are running the place. The motto is EVERYTHING TOGETHER, but at the moment the reality is that there is still a large percentage of fans that are nowhere near that at the moment. Atmosphere, from what I can see, comes when we have something worth shouting about on the grass (that is obvious...) but also when we have an animated character leading the team. Some cracking atmosphere under Neil, definitely under Wagner and then the last I recall is Lee. Duff seems like a decent bloke but he is not giving it the big one on the sidelines like those managers did |
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Post by hoggy1975 on Oct 25, 2024 13:38:38 GMT 1
I'd always thought it was the south stand drummer that started that off after goals went in? One of my bugbears n all. How dare you Well then, if he does post on here or he potentially has friends that do, hopefully going forwards he can give the fans a minute or two to celebrate. |
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Post by willo on Oct 25, 2024 14:13:07 GMT 1
Starts with the product on the field as Ben has said. We didn’t renew this season, and I’ve been through the reasons previously, and I have to say haven’t missed going one iota. I haven’t even sat down at home and watched a match through from start to finish other than the Peterborough away game on the opening day. It’s a very poor league and we are still not entertaining to watch. Yes we’ve won a few games but the quality of the opposition has been even poorer than I expected. If we can put a run together, start playing some decent stuff, I’ll come back but the longer I stay away and find other things to fill my time with, the more difficult to return it’ll be. Really doesn’t surprise me the atmosphere is flat most games either, it’s only really been decent when NW was in charge and kept us up going back several seasons now.
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Post by Sio on Oct 25, 2024 14:14:32 GMT 1
Well then, if he does post on here or he potentially has friends that do, hopefully going forwards he can give the fans a minute or two to celebrate. Used to be a very stubborn lad. Can't imagine that he will change his approach. |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Oct 25, 2024 15:19:20 GMT 1
We never had a problem with atmosphere during the promotion season, or when we were in the Premier League so the current layout has nothing to do with it being poor. Its simple really. If fans want an atmosphere its up to them to open their mouths and make some noise. Atmosphere is also generated by a 'feel', its hard to manufacture it with gimmicks. We've had goal music before (Jarvis tried it I think) and it didn't really help so no matter what they introduce it wont miraculously improve overnight. If the club want to improve the atmosphere its up to them to create an environment whereby fans feel a connection with those out on the grass and those that are running the place. The motto is EVERYTHING TOGETHER, but at the moment the reality is that there is still a large percentage of fans that are nowhere near that at the moment. Atmosphere, from what I can see, comes when we have something worth shouting about on the grass (that is obvious...) but also when we have an animated character leading the team. Some cracking atmosphere under Neil, definitely under Wagner and then the last I recall is Lee. Duff seems like a decent bloke but he is not giving it the big one on the sidelines like those managers did I don't think the manager matters as much TBH. 95% of it is down to what happens on the pitch. Look at how we played under Wagner, under Warnock, not always great but the team gave it their all and that fed into the crowd. Under Carlos we were successful but the football was poor and the atmosphere as nowhere as good (apart from the odd massive games) As much as I would like it to be the team feeding from the fans like it is all over Europe, in England its the other way round. If the team come out and play high energy, front foot football that energy will feed into the crowd and the atmosphere improves. Piss about with passing for no reason, 'safe' play will not get anyone on their feet. Again, as much a I hate it, fans now want to be entertained. You see a lot talking about lack of quality as a reason to have a pop at the team and in some cases not go at all. I think fans need to take a step back and lower their expectations a little because if you are turning up expecting high quality football at Town then you are in for a disappointment. Some fans see a lot of Premier League and Champions League football and expect Town to be able to perform to similar levels when in reality it isn't going to happen. As it doesn't happen, folk start to moan and this effects the atmosphere, Another issue we have at the moment is that a lot are expectant of victories. I saw loads of 'we beat Man United 7 years ago and now we are playing Bristol Rovers' type posts on Social Media over the past week. If this is the mentality then the euphoria of beating a Bristol Rovers is very much diluted and goals and the victory don't seem to matter as much because, for some reason, a lot of fans think because we bear Man United 7 years ago it should be routine that we beat Bristol Rovers so they don't celebrate it or even enjoy it. Wilos post above is a perfect example of this. As I said above, there is no gimmick or 'quick fix' that anyone can implement that will instantly improve things. As someone else pointed out, this isn't the US where Taylor Swift singing at half-time is going to get the blood pumping in the stands, that effect can generally only be done by the way the team plays and performs on the pitch. |
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Post by dugnet on Oct 25, 2024 15:29:30 GMT 1
As a few have said it isn't about "enhancements" it is about a team who we can get behind and support. If the team is good ad a tune is played when they score then people will buy into it, but it will never drive atmosphere in this country.
Things will improve if/when the fans start to believe in the team, and moreover the club in general. It isn't anymore complicated than that. Mr Nagle shouldn't be concerned by that but he perhaps needs to accept there's a lot to be done to get everyone on the same page.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 18:46:58 GMT 1
Patience. That’s what KN is now saying. Changed his tune from premier league in three years. I wish I could understand why a billionaire has bought our club. It’s clear he didn’t want to spend and give us the pace and quality required up front. I genuinely believe if we had that we would go up. Once more KN backtracks …….. Can I ask, in your first couple of years directing, if some self appointed expert , because they’d watched some TV, was criticising your work all over social media, how would have you reacted? I’m getting the impression that you wouldn’t have acted kindly. I’ve never been daft enough not to listen to outside criticism or even ideas. Nagle - does not. Maybe being a multi-billionaire makes you like that. Birmingham have invested and have momentum and excitement. We on the other have Ladapo. End of debate really. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 18:48:59 GMT 1
As a few have said it isn't about "enhancements" it is about a team who we can get behind and support. If the team is good ad a tune is played when they score then people will buy into it, but it will never drive atmosphere in this country. Things will improve if/when the fans start to believe in the team, and moreover the club in general. It isn't anymore complicated than that. Mr Nagle shouldn't be concerned by that but he perhaps needs to accept there's a lot to be done to get everyone on the same page. The word you are looking for is “investment”. Whatever spin you put on it, Birmingham have delivered and he has not. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 18:50:28 GMT 1
Whenever I see “end of” or “end of debate” I always think whoever has written that has just run out of ideas or can’t formulate their argument 😂
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 18:52:38 GMT 1
As a few have said it isn't about "enhancements" it is about a team who we can get behind and support. If the team is good ad a tune is played when they score then people will buy into it, but it will never drive atmosphere in this country. Things will improve if/when the fans start to believe in the team, and moreover the club in general. It isn't anymore complicated than that. Mr Nagle shouldn't be concerned by that but he perhaps needs to accept there's a lot to be done to get everyone on the same page. The word you are looking for is “investment”. Whatever spin you put on it, Birmingham have delivered and he has not. Jesus mate he’s invested more than us fans combined Just because the player side of the investment has been wasted by Cartwright doesn’t mean the investment isn’t there And you can ask the normal staff at the club if they feel he’s invested and to a man/woman they will say he has |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 18:59:24 GMT 1
The word you are looking for is “investment”. Whatever spin you put on it, Birmingham have delivered and he has not. Jesus mate he’s invested more than us fans combined Just because the player side of the investment has been wasted by Cartwright doesn’t mean the investment isn’t there And you can ask the normal staff at the club if they feel he’s invested and to a man/woman they will say he has Has he though ? Secured the main asset nearly. Probably why he upgraded it, gains us zero points though but helps his balance sheet. Really hasn’t spent that much this summer given what came in from rudhoni. A cleverer financial man/woman than me would be able to analyse the figures better. I also heard American company’s get huge tax breaks in America for investing in the uk. Whether that’s true or not, I’m not convinced. Remember the start of Dean. “You buy the season cards - we’ll buy the players “. As opposed to We can’t compete with Birmingham - who came down from the same division. Yet he wonders why 4500k of season card holders aren’t going to the games. It’s bleeding obvious. UTT |
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 25, 2024 19:00:37 GMT 1
The word you are looking for is “investment”. Whatever spin you put on it, Birmingham have delivered and he has not. Jesus mate he’s invested more than us fans combined Just because the player side of the investment has been wasted by Cartwright doesn’t mean the investment isn’t there And you can ask the normal staff at the club if they feel he’s invested and to a man/woman they will say he has Apparently, according to another thread, Duncan has issues that he is dealing with. However, that is no excuse for him spouting absolute shite! |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 19:06:01 GMT 1
Jesus mate he’s invested more than us fans combined Just because the player side of the investment has been wasted by Cartwright doesn’t mean the investment isn’t there And you can ask the normal staff at the club if they feel he’s invested and to a man/woman they will say he has Apparently, according to another thread, Duncan has issues that he is dealing with. However, that is no excuse for him spouting absolute shite! Is it though ? Ask yourself why are so many American companies investing in the uk. In an early DM conversation I had with him I mentioned the words “uk recession “. His reply was instant - no that’s not right, that’s not what my advisors are saying, how do you know this? - what’s all that about then ? There is a reason for him being here and it isn’t the same as Dean. Dean was a fan. A passionate fan that had struck gold and wanted to bring success to his team. Nagle isn’t. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 19:08:40 GMT 1
Jesus mate he’s invested more than us fans combined Just because the player side of the investment has been wasted by Cartwright doesn’t mean the investment isn’t there And you can ask the normal staff at the club if they feel he’s invested and to a man/woman they will say he has Has he though ? Secured the main asset nearly. Probably why he upgraded it, gains us zero points though but helps his balance sheet. Really hasn’t spent that much this summer given what came in from rudhoni. A cleverer financial man/woman than me would be able to analyse the figures better. I also heard American company’s get huge tax breaks in America for investing in the uk. Whether that’s true or not, I’m not convinced. Remember the start of Dean. “You buy the season cards - we’ll buy the players “. As opposed to We can’t compete with Birmingham - who came down from the same division. Yet he wonders why 4500k of season card holders aren’t going to the games. It’s bleeding obvious. UTT How many times I need to say this is extraordinary: the Rudoni money was swallowed up by the loss in revenue from relegation** and didn’t even cover that, minimum £7m just in TV revenue, the money to keep on every member of staff (practically unheard of from previously relegated clubs, bloody hell Manure laid off over 100 staff because they lost revenue this season), money for the transfers we’ve paid out, money in loan fees, the Rudoni money AND the Sorba fee didn’t cover it and that’s before you get to the normal annual outgoings which is a further MINIMUM £5m per year ** yes KN takes some of the blame for relegation but I’d still lay most of the blame at Cartwright’s door being his advisor And the biggest reason we can’t compete with Brum AND stay within FFP is their revenue streams dwarf ours because of years of commercial mismanagement from other owners |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 19:15:40 GMT 1
Has he though ? Secured the main asset nearly. Probably why he upgraded it, gains us zero points though but helps his balance sheet. Really hasn’t spent that much this summer given what came in from rudhoni. A cleverer financial man/woman than me would be able to analyse the figures better. I also heard American company’s get huge tax breaks in America for investing in the uk. Whether that’s true or not, I’m not convinced. Remember the start of Dean. “You buy the season cards - we’ll buy the players “. As opposed to We can’t compete with Birmingham - who came down from the same division. Yet he wonders why 4500k of season card holders aren’t going to the games. It’s bleeding obvious. UTT How many times I need to say this is extraordinary: the Rudoni money was swallowed up by the loss in revenue from relegation** and didn’t even cover that, minimum £7m just in TV revenue, the money to keep on every member of staff (practically unheard of from previously relegated clubs, bloody hell Manure laid off over 100 staff because they lost revenue this season), money for the transfers we’ve paid out, money in loan fees, the Rudoni money AND the Sorba fee didn’t cover it and that’s before you get to the normal annual outgoings which is a further MINIMUM £5m per year ** yes KN takes some of the blame for relegation but I’d still lay most of the blame at Cartwright’s door being his advisor And the biggest reason we can’t compete with Brum AND stay within FFP is their revenue streams dwarf ours because of years of commercial mismanagement from other owners Birmingham lost their tv money also. They have “created” their revenue streams. We have not. We signed ladapo. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 19:21:45 GMT 1
And Birmingham were on their “arse” 18months ago. So the argument that their revenue streams are better is “balance sheet” bullshit.
Owners have spent. They will tackle any FFP going forward but I’m sure that’s been covered by them. Clever.
Nagle has not. Do we want to excited by playing Leeds, Sheffield Utd, Sheffield wed or Exeter at home. It’s an easy answer.
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 19:25:01 GMT 1
How many times I need to say this is extraordinary: the Rudoni money was swallowed up by the loss in revenue from relegation** and didn’t even cover that, minimum £7m just in TV revenue, the money to keep on every member of staff (practically unheard of from previously relegated clubs, bloody hell Manure laid off over 100 staff because they lost revenue this season), money for the transfers we’ve paid out, money in loan fees, the Rudoni money AND the Sorba fee didn’t cover it and that’s before you get to the normal annual outgoings which is a further MINIMUM £5m per year ** yes KN takes some of the blame for relegation but I’d still lay most of the blame at Cartwright’s door being his advisor And the biggest reason we can’t compete with Brum AND stay within FFP is their revenue streams dwarf ours because of years of commercial mismanagement from other owners Birmingham lost their tv money also. They have “created” their revenue streams. We have not. We signed ladapo. They already had much bigger revenue streams, mostly from earning everything that goes through St Andrews, even though they were on their arse, they’ve increased those streams through having a big sports name like Brady involved, much as we think Brady’s a dick he’s adored in the US The stadium streams are something KN is in the process of gaining for us, it wouldn’t surprise me if KN’s tried to get Sir Patrick involved more to cash in HIS celebrity but Professor X has always said he’s not really interested in that side of things unfortunately 😢 |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 25, 2024 19:26:49 GMT 1
And Birmingham were on their “arse” 18months ago. So the argument that their revenue streams are better is “balance sheet” bullshit. Owners have spent. They will tackle any FFP going forward but I’m sure that’s been covered by them. Clever. Nagle has not. Do we want to excited by playing Leeds, Sheffield Utd, Sheffield wed or Exeter at home. It’s an easy answer. Bloody hell, absolute yawnville. Are you craving attention? Are you a record stuck on repeat? Are you aware we have never had a player called Rudhoni? Do you read the numerous and countless replies and answers to you regarding your questions that get answered? How you have coped being a town fan for so long is beyond me. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 19:27:30 GMT 1
Birmingham lost their tv money also. They have “created” their revenue streams. We have not. We signed ladapo. They already had much bigger revenue streams, mostly from earning everything that goes through St Andrews, they’ve increased those streams through having a big sports name like Brady involved, much as we think Brady’s a dick he’s adored in the US Which is something KN is in the process of gaining for us, it wouldn’t surprise me if KN’s tried to get Sir Patrick involved more to cash in HIS celebrity but Professor X has always said he’s not really interested in that side of things unfortunately 😢 Those years of “fire-fighting “ coming back to haunt us then. Maybe I’m wrong about him ? Sadly I don’t think I am. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 19:29:05 GMT 1
And Birmingham were on their “arse” 18months ago. So the argument that their revenue streams are better is “balance sheet” bullshit. Owners have spent. They will tackle any FFP going forward but I’m sure that’s been covered by them. Clever. Nagle has not. Do we want to excited by playing Leeds, Sheffield Utd, Sheffield wed or Exeter at home. It’s an easy answer. Bloody hell, absolute yawnville. Are you craving attention? Are you a record stuck on repeat? Are you aware we have never had a player called Rudhoni? Do you read the numerous and countless replies and answers to you regarding your questions that get answered? How you have coped being a town fan for so long is beyond me. Well I’m just sharing posts with mosher. I thought this was a forum where fans could debate  ! Am I wrong ? Why the attack ? |
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