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Post by ambryboy on Sept 8, 2024 11:49:08 GMT 1
Does any other national team have 'issues' with players and managers not singing the anthem. Most I see, sing their arses off or have their hand on their heart etc etc.. May be old fashioned and now very, un English to do so, but there again being English is not fashionable. Its being trialled in the USA to forget or ignore where you are from or actually live, the backlash wont be good either. That's because their anthems aren't based on divisive lyrics. God + unelected monarch + outdated lyrics + shit tune = anthem many aren't to bothered about.The Marsellaise is bloodthirsty and outdated but equality, fraternity and liberty are still kind of worth singing about, especially wrapped up on a rousing tune. Spot on, it's a dreary dirge and above all it's the United Kingdom's national anthem not England's. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 8, 2024 12:12:03 GMT 1
God.Like it or not, this country was unified as a Christian country. Until relatively recently, church attendance was the norm. It's part of our country's history. Unelected MonarchAnd yet, still the head of state (albeit holding very little power in a largely ceremonial role). A monarchy is a large part of this country's heritage. Besides, I wouldn't get too upset about the unelected part. Have you seen the state of the politicians we choose when given the opportunity? God Save Boris! I voted Tory but fuck that. Outdated Lyrics + shit tunePerhaps get Sabrina Carpenter to write contemporary lyrics the tune of Insomnia by Faithless? You can’t openly admit to voting for Boris Johnson and then carry on with any credibility. You’ve caused my mortgage rates to go up ffs. Remember who he was up against & be grateful that you still have a house. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Sept 8, 2024 12:24:11 GMT 1
You can’t openly admit to voting for Boris Johnson and then carry on with any credibility. You’ve caused my mortgage rates to go up ffs. Remember who he was up against & be grateful that you still have a house. Nah I’m fucked off man.. you gotta just leave me with it. The National finances are well and truly F’d up and I’m a lot worse off.. |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 8, 2024 12:25:20 GMT 1
Carslwy ain’t gonna sing that shite just like Capello didn’t and many more before him didn’t either. Facts are that first half was not entertaining than any of Southgate’s Euro matches which were all awful to watch. Carsley should get the job clearly. It’s about winning football matches & playing good football not creating headlines for the daily fucking express. Was a crap performance second half though with shades of Southgate. |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 8, 2024 12:25:32 GMT 1
That's because their anthems aren't based on divisive lyrics. God + unelected monarch + outdated lyrics + shit tune = anthem many aren't to bothered about. The Marsellaise is bloodthirsty and outdated but equality, fraternity and liberty are still kind of worth singing about, especially wrapped up on a rousing tune. Certainly is outdated. Bunch of cheese eating  monkeys. Maybe but (generally) French work less hours, get paid more, eat better food, enjoy fine cheeses and live in beautiful countryside with a far less dense (ha) population... |
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Post by nnnlove on Sept 8, 2024 12:25:50 GMT 1
Good shout, but maybe samples instead. Clips of people everybody can agree is a national hero - like David Attenborough, Fred Dibnah and Edmund Blackadder. Nah, fuck that. He was Lancastrian. Although I can't think of anything that wouldn't be improved by Sean Bean saying "Bastard" in the middle of it. You make a good bastard point. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Sept 8, 2024 12:26:01 GMT 1
Carslwy ain’t gonna sing that shite just like Capello didn’t and many more before him didn’t either. Facts are that first half was not entertaining than any of Southgate’s Euro matches which were all awful to watch. Carsley should get the job clearly. It’s about winning football matches & playing good football not creating headlines for the daily fucking express. Was a crap performance second half though with shades of Southgate. Shades of town. |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Sept 8, 2024 12:33:51 GMT 1
National Anthem: utter nonsense. It has been hijacked in recent decades, increasingly ironically as the First and Second World War generations have died out. Not saying that had anything to do with it though but is just conincidence? It is definitely political now as is flag waving and false patriotism. There is a Dad's Army episode where the platoon are all off duty and in the Walmington cinema. When the National Anthem is played they all run out trampling on Captain Mainwaring who of course is the pompous fool trying to salute. I don't remember an outrage back in the late 1960s or 1970s when this was first shown and with good reason because it was the truth. By the way how many know all the verses to the National Anthem anyway?
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Post by 28901 on Sept 8, 2024 12:33:59 GMT 1
That's because their anthems aren't based on divisive lyrics. God + unelected monarch + outdated lyrics + shit tune = anthem many aren't to bothered about. The Marsellaise is bloodthirsty and outdated but equality, fraternity and liberty are still kind of worth singing about, especially wrapped up on a rousing tune. Like it or not, this country was unified as a Christian country. Until relatively recently, church attendance was the norm. It's part of our country's history. Unelected MonarchAnd yet, still the head of state (albeit holding very little power in a largely ceremonial role). A monarchy is a large part of this country's heritage. Besides, I wouldn't get too upset about the unelected part. Have you seen the state of the politicians we choose when given the opportunity? God Save Boris! I voted Tory but fuck that. Outdated Lyrics + shit tunePerhaps get Sabrina Carpenter to write contemporary lyrics the tune of Insomnia by Faithless? The Church of England only exists because an unelected monarch wanted to get divorced. I'd be far happier with Jerusalem as the England anthem even though it's a religious hymn. At least it's about making the country better rather than forelock tugging someone living in an ivory tower. Anyway I'm officially Irish so it's nowt to do with me in some respects. |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 8, 2024 12:38:03 GMT 1
National Anthem: utter nonsense. It has been hijacked in recent decades, increasingly ironically as the First and Second World War generations have died out. Not saying that had anything to do with it though but is just conincidence? It is definitely political now as is flag waving and false patriotism. There is a Dad's Army episode where the platoon are all off duty and in the Walmington cinema. When the National Anthem is played they all run out trampling on Captain Mainwaring who of course is the pompous fool trying to salute. I don't remember an outrage back in the late 1960s or 1970s when this was first shown and with good reason because it was the truth. By the way how many know all the verses to the National Anthem anyway? All true. And I'm aware of them, it's about crushing Scots after the 1745 uprising. Incidently Charles 'the bonny prince' was a Stuart and had more claim to the throne than his cousin King George II (who was German) |
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Sept 8, 2024 12:38:14 GMT 1
God.Like it or not, this country was unified as a Christian country. Until relatively recently, church attendance was the norm. It's part of our country's history. Unelected MonarchAnd yet, still the head of state (albeit holding very little power in a largely ceremonial role). A monarchy is a large part of this country's heritage. Besides, I wouldn't get too upset about the unelected part. Have you seen the state of the politicians we choose when given the opportunity? God Save Boris! I voted Tory but fuck that. Outdated Lyrics + shit tunePerhaps get Sabrina Carpenter to write contemporary lyrics the tune of Insomnia by Faithless? The Church of England only exists because an unelected monarch wanted to get divorced. I'd be far happier with Jerusalem as the England anthem even though it's a religious hymn. At least it's about making the country better rather than forelock tugging someone living in an ivory tower. Anyway I'm officially Irish so it's nowt to do with me in some respects. Love that insomnia idea, Wembley would be rocking. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 8, 2024 13:21:53 GMT 1
Certainly is outdated. Bunch of cheese eating monkeys. Maybe but (generally) French work less hours, get paid more, eat better food, enjoy fine cheeses and live in beautiful countryside with a far less dense (ha) population... They should ditch The Marseillaise and replace it with a translated version of this: (incidentally - I'm totally with you on the food. I'll forever be baffled as to why we as a nation place so little value on the really, really good food that we can produce here) |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 8, 2024 13:39:45 GMT 1
Maybe but (generally) French work less hours, get paid more, eat better food, enjoy fine cheeses and live in beautiful countryside with a far less dense (ha) population... They should ditch The Marseillaise and replace it with a translated version of this: (incidentally - I'm totally with you on the food. I'll forever be baffled as to why we as a nation place so little value on the really, really good food that we can produce here) I was in a big meeting the other day with 4 people from France in attendance. The company who's offices we were using provided sandwiches at lunchtime. We never moved from the room or table but the French all took their food outside and sat round a table for an hour with a big jug of water. Even though they only had the same as us there was a ritual about it, and a proper break. |
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Post by mosher on Sept 8, 2024 15:15:33 GMT 1
The Church of England only exists because an unelected monarch wanted to get divorced. I'd be far happier with Jerusalem as the England anthem even though it's a religious hymn. At least it's about making the country better rather than forelock tugging someone living in an ivory tower. Anyway I'm officially Irish so it's nowt to do with me in some respects. Love that insomnia idea, Wembley would be rocking. Even a lot of crusty long-haired headbanging moshers like me love that tune  |
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Post by mosher on Sept 8, 2024 15:17:51 GMT 1
I was in a big meeting the other day with 4 people from France in attendance. The company who's offices we were using provided sandwiches at lunchtime. We never moved from the room or table but the French all took their food outside and sat round a table for an hour with a big jug of water. Even though they only had the same as us there was a ritual about it, and a proper break. The Europeans certainly know how to do mealtimes, including the Germans, Spaniards, Bosnians and Italians.** ** Not singling nations out, they're just the nationalities I've sat down to a meal with, probably others I've forgotten. |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 8, 2024 15:56:05 GMT 1
I was in a big meeting the other day with 4 people from France in attendance. The company who's offices we were using provided sandwiches at lunchtime. We never moved from the room or table but the French all took their food outside and sat round a table for an hour with a big jug of water. Even though they only had the same as us there was a ritual about it, and a proper break. The Europeans certainly know how to do mealtimes, including the Germans, Spaniards, Bosnians and Italians.** ** Not singling nations out, they're just the nationalities I've sat down to a meal with, probably others I've forgotten. Whereas we fire down a Tesco Meal deal while looking at our phones for lunch, and microwaved ready meal in front of tv for tea. To be honest we do try and make a proper meal most nights, but with our working hours it's usually pushing 9 before we its ready. Bloody hungry though and usually have a couple of beers waiting or making. |
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Post by harri54 on Sept 8, 2024 19:44:26 GMT 1
Certainly is outdated. Bunch of cheese eating monkeys. Maybe but (generally) French work less hours, get paid more, eat better food, enjoy fine cheeses and live in beautiful countryside with a far less dense (ha) population... And are far more nationalistic, which gives them a financial advantage! UK tried 'buy British', but how many British cars & motorbikes do we drive/ride? |
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Post by nnnlove on Sept 8, 2024 20:02:14 GMT 1
They should ditch The Marseillaise and replace it with a translated version of this: (incidentally - I'm totally with you on the food. I'll forever be baffled as to why we as a nation place so little value on the really, really good food that we can produce here) I was in a big meeting the other day with 4 people from France in attendance. The company who's offices we were using provided sandwiches at lunchtime. We never moved from the room or table but the French all took their food outside and sat round a table for an hour with a big jug of water. Even though they only had the same as us there was a ritual about it, and a proper break. People who routinely eat lunch at their desks blow my mind. Fair enough if you've got deadlines, perhaps even if the weather is abominable - but if you're chained to a desk for 7-8 hours a day, in a chicken coup full of people you secretly hate - why would you not get away for a bit when you have that opportunity? Stretch your legs, go for a smoke, feed the ducks in the park, have a wander around a record shop...weirdos. |
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 15, 2024 12:19:12 GMT 1
FA in talks with Thomas Tuchel. His record speaks for itself, I'm happy with it despite him been German.
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Post by jp on Oct 15, 2024 12:37:09 GMT 1
Let’s hope to god he is better than the previous foreign managers - Erikson and capello who were both horrendous wasters of talent.
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Post by markthehorn on Oct 15, 2024 13:12:44 GMT 1
FA in talks with Thomas Tuchel. His record speaks for itself, I'm happy with it despite him been German. Sure some will complain about that ! Did well with Chelsea and had success elsewhere but also has a habit of falling out with people easily . |
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 15, 2024 13:39:44 GMT 1
According to the DT, Pep has been approached. Still to renew his contract at Citeh which runs out at the end of the season.
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 15, 2024 13:57:57 GMT 1
That's because their anthems aren't based on divisive lyrics. God + unelected monarch + outdated lyrics + shit tune = anthem many aren't to bothered about.The Marsellaise is bloodthirsty and outdated but equality, fraternity and liberty are still kind of worth singing about, especially wrapped up on a rousing tune. Spot on, it's a dreary dirge and above all it's the United Kingdom's national anthem not England's. Spot on really so it's bloodthirsty and outdated but worthy with some nice lyrics like equality, fraternity and liberty which are kind of good. Yet singing the Red Flag doesn't make you a socialist least at a Labour Party conference, in the words of Depeche Mode "words are meaningless" especially when spouting BS. Lee Carsley was born in Birmingham that's in England incidentally not Ireland, why does he want the job could it be the money. This fake Irish patriotism (half of Huddersfield are Irish descent including myself) is pathetic besides the fact he would be yet another English FA yes man. England really needs a foreign manager who has actually won stuff, not someone with an identity crisis. |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 15, 2024 14:06:37 GMT 1
FA in talks with Thomas Tuchel. His record speaks for itself, I'm happy with it despite him been German. Sure some will complain about that ! Did well with Chelsea and had success elsewhere but also has a habit of falling out with people easily . A record of success and falling out with people, sounds the right man sign him up. |
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Post by htfc1908 on Oct 15, 2024 15:04:24 GMT 1
I hope I'm wrong but I can't see the FA appointing either of Guardiola or Tuchel as they'll be wanting a yes man who won't rock the boat
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Post by ldr on Oct 15, 2024 16:07:01 GMT 1
Spot on, it's a dreary dirge and above all it's the United Kingdom's national anthem not England's. Spot on really so it's bloodthirsty and outdated but worthy with some nice lyrics like equality, fraternity and liberty which are kind of good. Yet singing the Red Flag doesn't make you a socialist least at a Labour Party conference, in the words of Depeche Mode "words are meaningless" especially when spouting BS. Lee Carsley was born in Birmingham that's in England incidentally not Ireland, why does he want the job could it be the money. This fake Irish patriotism (half of Huddersfield are Irish descent including myself) is pathetic besides the fact he would be yet another English FA yes man. England really needs a foreign manager who has actually won stuff, not someone with an identity crisis. What is ‘fake patriotism’? |
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 15, 2024 16:46:32 GMT 1
Sure some will complain about that ! Did well with Chelsea and had success elsewhere but also has a habit of falling out with people easily . A record of success and falling out with people, sounds the right man sign him up. He can fall out with whoever he wants if he wins us a world cup or European tournament |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 15, 2024 17:08:04 GMT 1
Spot on really so it's bloodthirsty and outdated but worthy with some nice lyrics like equality, fraternity and liberty which are kind of good. Yet singing the Red Flag doesn't make you a socialist least at a Labour Party conference, in the words of Depeche Mode "words are meaningless" especially when spouting BS. Lee Carsley was born in Birmingham that's in England incidentally not Ireland, why does he want the job could it be the money. This fake Irish patriotism (half of Huddersfield are Irish descent including myself) is pathetic besides the fact he would be yet another English FA yes man. England really needs a foreign manager who has actually won stuff, not someone with an identity crisis. What is ‘fake patriotism’? Fake, I don't know what your geography is like bad by the sound of it. Birmingham, England not Ireland. |
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Post by ldr on Oct 15, 2024 17:34:46 GMT 1
What is ‘fake patriotism’? Fake, I don't know what your geography is like bad by the sound of it. Birmingham, England not Ireland. Thanks for clearing that up! So you have to be patriotic to your birthplace? |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Oct 15, 2024 18:13:29 GMT 1
I don't have a problem with Tuchel being German at all, i just don't think he is the man for the job.
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