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Post by cyberman on Aug 3, 2024 9:09:43 GMT 1
i don’t know what people expected. we was the better team in the first half against a top end championship side… teams in league one won’t have the quality SU have, so i don’t know why anyone’s worried? we are another decent striker away from challenging autos i think. really looking forward to saturday, UTT. So who is the "decent striker" we have at the moment ? |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 3, 2024 9:10:19 GMT 1
What is a number 6 ? I have honestly no clue. It’s still a centre half number to me. Defensive midfield. Left half. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 3, 2024 9:12:28 GMT 1
The rhetoric in here makes me feel like before we signed Alan Lee Alan. Alan Leeee. Alan. Alan Leeeee. I was at the emirates when he equalised. Absolute mayhem. We ran down to the front like wild northerners. The thing is though. That goal had been coming and were it not for Fabregas blatantly cheating to get a pen we’d have deservedly won that game. But anyway… Yeah we 100% need at least 1 striker. We really need a young centre back imo. One of my all time favourite town goals. It was carnage when that goal went in. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Aug 3, 2024 9:14:28 GMT 1
Looks like Duncan's account has been hacked. He's literally the most up and down Town fan you could ever imagine. One day we're shite and the world's ending, the next we're brilliant and San Siro in 3. Think you will find I’m far more positive this season. However, if criticism is due then I will give it. I suspect under Duff he will do it for me though. Clearly he is the man in charge and the players are prepared to listen and give their all. At one point Nichols “fist pumped”.. as Helik smashed the ball away. No way would that have happened under the “clown” or “clowns”. … and that was in a meaningless pre-season friendly. |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Aug 3, 2024 9:24:42 GMT 1
Coming together nicely.
If being greedy, then the addition of a quick penalty box striker and a left footed centre half would give the squad a nice balance.
Midfield was interesting last night with Kane playing deep - suspect we can play that way in games we are favourites this season. Given how Duff wants to play, I don’t see Kasumu as the deep-lying CM but more as a box to box type when that is required in games. Take the 3 from last night who started, plus Kasumu, Hogg and Iorpenda, then whilst another option in midfield (such as Hodge) would strengthen us, it feels like less important than a striker and LCB.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 3, 2024 9:36:39 GMT 1
Yeah really liking Duff. Watched him a bit during the match and gives you confidence. Not to be messed with either - after one of their late tackles that hurt one of our players, he gave Wilder a death stare for about 10 seconds. Respectfully disagree on pen - it was a pen for me. Defender eventually gets something on the ball but only after pushing through Koroma from behind and knocking him off balance. Definite pen. Makes foul contact with Koroma from behind before he touches the ball. Yep. 'Getting the ball' only matters if he gets the ball before contact with Koroma. He goes through Koroma to get it. I have to say my initial reaction live was that it was a tackle from behind, and although on seeing it again it wasn't by the strict definition, it's still a foul where he takes man before ball. I thought it was a good test though. Sheffield United were narky - they weren't half-paced in that second half, and in truth they played quite seriously first. Quite a few challenges where they left a bit on their man when they really didn't need to - see the incident where Wiles went off in particular, with their lad knowing he was getting nowhere near the ball but leaving his mark anyway. Number 21 in particular a culprit of that. Also plenty of moaning and gamesmanship. O'Hare must have thrown his arms around half a dozen times when he didn't get his own way. Kicked the ball away quite a few times, were unnecessarily confrontational. The foul at the end when Kasumu was breaking was a booking in any game and twice in friendlies - why commit such a professional foul in a training exercise? I don't mind a competitive edge and the opposition being hard but fair, but in a friendly what's the need for the moaning and the putting pressure on the officials? What was pleasing was that a couple of times ours stood up for themselves while Sheffield United tried to bully them, which we haven't seen for a year or two. |
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Post by Bubbles on Aug 3, 2024 9:40:17 GMT 1
What is a number 6 ? I have honestly no clue. It’s still a centre half number to me. Defensive midfield. Thank you. (Think I’ll still call it that then.) |
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Post by basil on Aug 3, 2024 9:40:27 GMT 1
Is Yuta still training with us? I can't help thinking that some kind of deal with him would be a win win.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 3, 2024 9:43:55 GMT 1
Coming together nicely. If being greedy, then the addition of a quick penalty box striker and a left footed centre half would give the squad a nice balance. Midfield was interesting last night with Kane playing deep - suspect we can play that way in games we are favourites this season. Given how Duff wants to play, I don’t see Kasumu as the deep-lying CM but more as a box to box type when that is required in games. Take the 3 from last night who started, plus Kasumu, Hogg and Iorpenda, then whilst another option in midfield (such as Hodge) would strengthen us, it feels like less important than a striker and LCB. Agree with that but for me, in this division, there will be games where we need to hold the ball better up front. We have exactly the same problem as the last couple of years, there's no forward who can win his fair share of the ball in the air & with us trying to get crosses in a physical presence would be really useful. Obviously, we won't be playing against sides like the Blades & I'm sure Koroma at least gets a shot off against L1 teams, the defenders will, on the whole, be much slower so I think we'll be fine. I agree 100% with Kane, Evans & Wiles (who is like a new signing for me so far this pre-season) being able to all play together at home most games so I think we'll be challenging this season, especially with a couple of additions. Still don't agree about the pen... but that's fine  |
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Post by harris on Aug 3, 2024 10:03:54 GMT 1
i don’t know what people expected. we was the better team in the first half against a top end championship side… teams in league one won’t have the quality SU have, so i don’t know why anyone’s worried? we are another decent striker away from challenging autos i think. really looking forward to saturday, UTT. So who is the "decent striker" we have at the moment ? Healey ? |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Aug 3, 2024 10:12:39 GMT 1
I’m hoping Bojan or Harratt scored a hatful in the B team match yesterday! (*if they played)
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Post by hoggy1975 on Aug 3, 2024 10:17:45 GMT 1
I’m hoping Bojan or Harratt scored a hatful in the B team match yesterday! (*if they played) Think Bojan was seen by a couple of fans and he’s injured. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 3, 2024 10:22:18 GMT 1
Alan. Alan Leeee. Alan. Alan Leeeee. I was at the emirates when he equalised. Absolute mayhem. We ran down to the front like wild northerners. The thing is though. That goal had been coming and were it not for Fabregas blatantly cheating to get a pen we’d have deservedly won that game. But anyway… Yeah we 100% need at least 1 striker. We really need a young centre back imo. One of my all time favourite town goals. It was carnage when that goal went in. Somthing else that day.. That and Palace away are right up there.. and that 4-4 at Swillsborough… great times. |
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Post by willo on Aug 3, 2024 10:23:44 GMT 1
I’m hoping Bojan or Harratt scored a hatful in the B team match yesterday! (*if they played) Think Bojan was seen by a couple of fans and he’s injured. Head injury I heard. Struck by a falling leaf. |
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Post by joek on Aug 3, 2024 10:31:52 GMT 1
Somebody actually told me this tonight, unless I was talking to Dunc. I thought I had read it on here. I’ll revise the post. Can I just say for £5000 a week I could play up front and fail to hold onto a single pass ….. Why post absolute bollocks in the first place though? Just makes you look silly. I don’t understand why you’d do that but hey ho. Each to their own I guess. |
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Post by wildhogg on Aug 3, 2024 10:33:24 GMT 1
Think Bojan was seen by a couple of fans and he’s injured. Head injury I heard. Struck by a falling leaf. At this stage we're absolutely clinging on with the ends of our fingertips to his goal against Stoke and a few glimpses of quality he showed last season, aren't we? I've been watching some footy from Latvia (presuming it's a similar standard to Finnish footy) in the last few weeks, and it's basically Conference level. Probably another colossal waste of money. Hope he proves me wrong, but I feels its highly unlikely. |
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Post by htafcdan on Aug 3, 2024 11:37:34 GMT 1
i don’t know what people expected. we was the better team in the first half against a top end championship side… teams in league one won’t have the quality SU have, so i don’t know why anyone’s worried? we are another decent striker away from challenging autos i think. really looking forward to saturday, UTT. So who is the "decent striker" we have at the moment ? healey? |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 3, 2024 11:51:35 GMT 1
Coming together nicely. If being greedy, then the addition of a quick penalty box striker and a left footed centre half would give the squad a nice balance. Midfield was interesting last night with Kane playing deep - suspect we can play that way in games we are favourites this season. Given how Duff wants to play, I don’t see Kasumu as the deep-lying CM but more as a box to box type when that is required in games. Take the 3 from last night who started, plus Kasumu, Hogg and Iorpenda, then whilst another option in midfield (such as Hodge) would strengthen us, it feels like less important than a striker and LCB. Agree with that but for me, in this division, there will be games where we need to hold the ball better up front. We have exactly the same problem as the last couple of years, there's no forward who can win his fair share of the ball in the air & with us trying to get crosses in a physical presence would be really useful. Obviously, we won't be playing against sides like the Blades & I'm sure Koroma at least gets a shot off against L1 teams, the defenders will, on the whole, be much slower so I think we'll be fine. I agree 100% with Kane, Evans & Wiles (who is like a new signing for me so far this pre-season) being able to all play together at home most games so I think we'll be challenging this season, especially with a couple of additions. Still don't agree about the pen... but that's fine I think that we are underestimating League 1 players, mostly they will not be of the same standard as the Championship, but not all of them are slow and I doubt that many of them will be any slower than some of our defenders. We will find out what the difference is, but it will not be the chasm a lot of people are expecting. Just remember it took us 11 years to get back to the Championship that last time we were relegated. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Aug 3, 2024 12:30:53 GMT 1
Those on here that think the defenders in league one are slower are deluding themselves.
This will be a very tough league to get out of, we know this from before.
It’s a bit arrogant and totally lacking in knowledge of football.
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Post by dugnet on Aug 3, 2024 15:40:07 GMT 1
I watched the game with interest, and, being honest, with a critical eye.
Overall there were positives in that the midfield was able to pass to each other and was comfortable on the ball.
Kane looks robust, composed and has a pass in him. He is not blessed with pace but has a skillset that offsets that weakness.
Evans has quality on the ball which will be a great addition. If I were to make an observation it would be that he is a little lightweight in the challenge.
Wiles looks much fitter and shows the ability we hoped he had. I thought, much like the overall team, he found things tougher in the 2nd half.
Sorensen started the game very well but he was less effective as the game progressed.
Miller looks solid but, as has been said, needs to offer better end product.
The back 3 were committed and robust. Distribution was haphazard at times. The defensive shape left a little more space on the flanks. We need to be aware of that going forward.
The front two had good moments but I could see why we were in for May. We need to hold the ball better and we also need someone who is better at leading the press.
Nicholls was excellent and we can thank him we secured a draw.
It was interesting that MD was keen to stress that we are a "work in process". I'm guessing he is clearly stating what he'd like to see adding to the squad. I'd expect more changes to the squad before the window closes.
My final take away was that Sheffield United looked a capable Championship side. The went up a gear in the 2nd half and we held on. We definitely looked more capable (than last season) but if the ambition is to get promotion and look to compete in the Championship then the squad needs much more investment. The lack of relative squad investment over a period was telling. We have made some steps in the right direction but I think there's also much more to do.
Next week will be a good test. How we also cope with our first home games will be interesting too.
I don't think we have a grasp on perhaps much there is to do.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 3, 2024 15:52:45 GMT 1
I watched the game with interest, and, being honest, with a critical eye. Overall there were positives in that the midfield was able to pass to each other and was comfortable on the ball. Kane looks robust, composed and has a pass in him. He is not blessed with pace but has a skillset that offsets that weakness. Evans has quality on the ball which will be a great addition. If I were to make an observation it would be that he is a little lightweight in the challenge. Wiles looks much fitter and shows the ability we hoped he had. I thought, much like the overall team, he found things tougher in the 2nd half. Sorensen started the game very well but he was less effective as the game progressed. Miller looks solid but, as has been said, needs to offer better end product. The back 3 were committed and robust. Distribution was haphazard at times. The defensive shape left a little more space on the flanks. We need to be aware of that going forward. The front two had good moments but I could see why we were in for May. We need to hold the ball better and we also need someone who is better at leading the press. Nicholls was excellent and we can thank him we secured a draw. It was interesting that MD was keen to stress that we are a "work in process". I'm guessing he is clearly stating what he'd like to see adding to the squad. I'd expect more changes to the squad before the window closes. My final take away was that Sheffield United looked a capable Championship side. The went up a gear in the 2nd half and we held on. We definitely looked more capable (than last season) but if the ambition is to get promotion and look to compete in the Championship then the squad needs much more investment. The lack of relative squad investment over a period was telling. We have made some steps in the right direction but I think there's also much more to do. Next week will be a good test. How we also cope with our first home games will be interesting too. I don't think we have a grasp on perhaps much there is to do. Nicholls made some great saves but I can't help but feel he causes a lot of problems for us with his distribution. He has to be one of the poorer keepers at this level for playing those lofted balls either out to the wing or in to a striker. There's way too much panic and rush of blood from him and he rarely gets the weight of the pass right. I guess it's up to Duff to decide what he places more value in as it's very unlikely that we'll find a keeper within our budget who is a good shot stopper and good with their feet. Maxwell is definitely better than Nicholls distribution wise but nowhere near as strong in other areas. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 3, 2024 16:17:17 GMT 1
First half was good
Second half we were comfortably the weaker team and there keeper had little to do. Results don’t matter but we got lucky to draw in my opinion
I think Nicholls has great distribution in terms of accurate quick realise kicks and throws. This tactic of him passing it three feet to a centre back to his side takes that away from our game. Also our CBs don’t look comfy on the ball and when it’s a proper game teams will start to press with more intent unlike Sheff Utd last night when the objective is minutes in the legs and no injuries
New lads for me all looked promising. Not much each to draw on last night
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Post by ldotm on Aug 3, 2024 16:50:06 GMT 1
I watched the game with interest, and, being honest, with a critical eye. Overall there were positives in that the midfield was able to pass to each other and was comfortable on the ball. Kane looks robust, composed and has a pass in him. He is not blessed with pace but has a skillset that offsets that weakness. Evans has quality on the ball which will be a great addition. If I were to make an observation it would be that he is a little lightweight in the challenge. Wiles looks much fitter and shows the ability we hoped he had. I thought, much like the overall team, he found things tougher in the 2nd half. Sorensen started the game very well but he was less effective as the game progressed. Miller looks solid but, as has been said, needs to offer better end product. The back 3 were committed and robust. Distribution was haphazard at times. The defensive shape left a little more space on the flanks. We need to be aware of that going forward. The front two had good moments but I could see why we were in for May. We need to hold the ball better and we also need someone who is better at leading the press. Nicholls was excellent and we can thank him we secured a draw. It was interesting that MD was keen to stress that we are a "work in process". I'm guessing he is clearly stating what he'd like to see adding to the squad. I'd expect more changes to the squad before the window closes. My final take away was that Sheffield United looked a capable Championship side. The went up a gear in the 2nd half and we held on. We definitely looked more capable (than last season) but if the ambition is to get promotion and look to compete in the Championship then the squad needs much more investment. The lack of relative squad investment over a period was telling. We have made some steps in the right direction but I think there's also much more to do. Next week will be a good test. How we also cope with our first home games will be interesting too. I don't think we have a grasp on perhaps much there is to do. Nicholls made some great saves but I can't help but feel he causes a lot of problems for us with his distribution. He has to be one of the poorer keepers at this level for playing those lofted balls either out to the wing or in to a striker. There's way too much panic and rush of blood from him and he rarely gets the weight of the pass right. I guess it's up to Duff to decide what he places more value in as it's very unlikely that we'll find a keeper within our budget who is a good shot stopper and good with their feet. Maxwell is definitely better than Nicholls distribution wise but nowhere near as strong in other areas. There aren’t many keepers great with their feet at League One level. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 3, 2024 17:18:57 GMT 1
Nicholls made some great saves but I can't help but feel he causes a lot of problems for us with his distribution. He has to be one of the poorer keepers at this level for playing those lofted balls either out to the wing or in to a striker. There's way too much panic and rush of blood from him and he rarely gets the weight of the pass right. I guess it's up to Duff to decide what he places more value in as it's very unlikely that we'll find a keeper within our budget who is a good shot stopper and good with their feet. Maxwell is definitely better than Nicholls distribution wise but nowhere near as strong in other areas. There aren’t many keepers great with their feet at League One level. I think there are far more than when we were last in it 12 years ago. Will be interesting to see this season. I'd rather have a keeper who keeps the ball out of his net like Nicholls anyway but just making the point that he plays a big part in us getting stuck in our own half like we did second half last night. |
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Post by Will on Aug 3, 2024 17:45:56 GMT 1
Funny how we have different takes. I was re-assured with Nichols distribution, it was, importantly for me not just short passes. He was happy to go long, short or throw it. Not all keeper passes are going to be successful, but varying it according to both teams positioning is always going to be the best option
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Post by duncfost01 on Aug 3, 2024 17:52:38 GMT 1
I thought I had read it on here. I’ll revise the post. Can I just say for £5000 a week I could play up front and fail to hold onto a single pass ….. Why post absolute bollocks in the first place though? Just makes you look silly. I don’t understand why you’d do that but hey ho. Each to their own I guess. go go away you absolute plank. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Aug 3, 2024 17:54:25 GMT 1
Coming together nicely. If being greedy, then the addition of a quick penalty box striker and a left footed centre half would give the squad a nice balance. Midfield was interesting last night with Kane playing deep - suspect we can play that way in games we are favourites this season. Given how Duff wants to play, I don’t see Kasumu as the deep-lying CM but more as a box to box type when that is required in games. Take the 3 from last night who started, plus Kasumu, Hogg and Iorpenda, then whilst another option in midfield (such as Hodge) would strengthen us, it feels like less important than a striker and LCB. Healey should already be our penalty box striker. We need another that can offer us something a bit different, eg the ability to stretch a defence with a bit of pace |
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Post by specialun on Aug 3, 2024 23:46:42 GMT 1
Have we made the pitch smaller in length?
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Post by keefer on Aug 4, 2024 2:19:09 GMT 1
I watched the game with interest, and, being honest, with a critical eye. Overall there were positives in that the midfield was able to pass to each other and was comfortable on the ball. Kane looks robust, composed and has a pass in him. He is not blessed with pace but has a skillset that offsets that weakness. Evans has quality on the ball which will be a great addition. If I were to make an observation it would be that he is a little lightweight in the challenge. Wiles looks much fitter and shows the ability we hoped he had. I thought, much like the overall team, he found things tougher in the 2nd half. Sorensen started the game very well but he was less effective as the game progressed. Miller looks solid but, as has been said, needs to offer better end product. The back 3 were committed and robust. Distribution was haphazard at times. The defensive shape left a little more space on the flanks. We need to be aware of that going forward. The front two had good moments but I could see why we were in for May. We need to hold the ball better and we also need someone who is better at leading the press. Nicholls was excellent and we can thank him we secured a draw. It was interesting that MD was keen to stress that we are a "work in process". I'm guessing he is clearly stating what he'd like to see adding to the squad. I'd expect more changes to the squad before the window closes. My final take away was that Sheffield United looked a capable Championship side. The went up a gear in the 2nd half and we held on. We definitely looked more capable (than last season) but if the ambition is to get promotion and look to compete in the Championship then the squad needs much more investment. The lack of relative squad investment over a period was telling. We have made some steps in the right direction but I think there's also much more to do. Next week will be a good test. How we also cope with our first home games will be interesting too. I don't think we have a grasp on perhaps much there is to do. Nicholls made some great saves but I can't help but feel he causes a lot of problems for us with his distribution. He has to be one of the poorer keepers at this level for playing those lofted balls either out to the wing or in to a striker. There's way too much panic and rush of blood from him and he rarely gets the weight of the pass right. I guess it's up to Duff to decide what he places more value in as it's very unlikely that we'll find a keeper within our budget who is a good shot stopper and good with their feet. Maxwell is definitely better than Nicholls distribution wise but nowhere near as strong in other areas. Keep an eye out for Chapman, I think eventually he will be quite a complete keeper, who will be good at all aspects of the keepers arts |
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Post by specialun on Aug 4, 2024 10:17:56 GMT 1
Nicholls made some great saves but I can't help but feel he causes a lot of problems for us with his distribution. He has to be one of the poorer keepers at this level for playing those lofted balls either out to the wing or in to a striker. There's way too much panic and rush of blood from him and he rarely gets the weight of the pass right. I guess it's up to Duff to decide what he places more value in as it's very unlikely that we'll find a keeper within our budget who is a good shot stopper and good with their feet. Maxwell is definitely better than Nicholls distribution wise but nowhere near as strong in other areas. There aren’t many keepers great with their feet at League One level. If he’s good with his hands it’s a big improvement on the last two seasons |
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