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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 3, 2024 15:14:22 GMT 1
People would rather have a go at the fans moaning than the thing they are moaning about. These are the same fans, who have no idea or it was a "suprise" we went down last season. That did not see the decline in the last 3 games and would be shocked again, if we did not get promoted, but if you highlight this early on your "moaning" or "bed wetting" . When in reality, you’re just highlighting something . Agree. There’s people on here who are peddling this ‘grateful’ we have no right to be anywhere attitude. Isn’t this the club they’ve loved and followed for years? Why wouldn’t you want us to be great and win every game and be exciting to watch? It’s acceptance. I’ve fallen out of love with town a few times over the last few seasons and it really upset me. But some people on here treat it like it’s us that owe them. It’s very strange |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 3, 2024 15:21:05 GMT 1
Do people want to debate what needs to improve or want something to use as a stick to beat the club?
In the last week many questions have been asked about the performances of the team. Those questions are reasonable but equally there is a lack of context about where we have come from and how much actually needs to change. I think, as the Captain says above, patience is required and we need to allow MD time to get the best from the squad but also shape what we need over the longer term.
The problem is people want change immediately and I don't think it will be that easy. That said we do have enough to be competitive in the shorter term.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 3, 2024 15:42:10 GMT 1
Do people want to debate what needs to improve or want something to use as a stick to beat the club? In the last week many questions have been asked about the performances of the team. Those questions are reasonable but equally there is a lack of context about where we have come from and how much actually needs to change. I think, as the Captain says above, patience is required and we need to allow MD time to get the best from the squad but also shape what we need over the longer term. The problem is people want change immediately and I don't think it will be that easy. That said we do have enough to be competitive in the shorter term. We should have enough for mid table and that is competitive. |
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 3, 2024 15:52:36 GMT 1
Bed Wetting my arse. We are in the third tier of English football and fans have every right to be concerned because come Christmas!! we will be in the lower half of the league.
We have some very good players at the club and it might take a while for Mr Duff to get things right, but by that time there will be more than a few bed wettings!, there will be a deluge.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 3, 2024 15:54:17 GMT 1
These are the same fans, who have no idea or it was a "suprise" we went down last season. That did not see the decline in the last 3 games and would be shocked again, if we did not get promoted, but if you highlight this early on your "moaning" or "bed wetting" . When in reality, you’re just highlighting something . Agree. There’s people on here who are peddling this ‘grateful’ we have no right to be anywhere attitude. Isn’t this the club they’ve loved and followed for years? Why wouldn’t you want us to be great and win every game and be exciting to watch? It’s acceptance. I’ve fallen out of love with town a few times over the last few seasons and it really upset me. But some people on here treat it like it’s us that owe them. It’s very strange Maybe they just don't care as much as you do. I certainly don't. I've been going for 53 years and would like to think I'll continue for another 20+ as long as I'm able but I'm not going to get in the state you clearly let yourself do if things don't go as you'd like them to. We set off with the intention of going to as many away games as possible this season as it's a while since we've been to a lot of these grounds (pointless cup games aside) but I suspect we'll not be bothering with Bolton now. It's not acceptance it's just that i'll do something else instead if we're going to continue as we are for the moment. Each to their own, you continue getting all upset with yourselves over the way you perceive the club is being run, i'll just chill out and do other things if necessary. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 3, 2024 16:10:45 GMT 1
Agree. There’s people on here who are peddling this ‘grateful’ we have no right to be anywhere attitude. Isn’t this the club they’ve loved and followed for years? Why wouldn’t you want us to be great and win every game and be exciting to watch? It’s acceptance. I’ve fallen out of love with town a few times over the last few seasons and it really upset me. But some people on here treat it like it’s us that owe them. It’s very strange Maybe they just don't care as much as you do. I certainly don't. I've been going for 53 years and would like to think I'll continue for another 20+ as long as I'm able but I'm not going to get in the state you clearly let yourself do if things don't go as you'd like them to. We set off with the intention of going to as many away games as possible this season as it's a while since we've been to a lot of these grounds (pointless cup games aside) but I suspect we'll not be bothering with Bolton now. It's not acceptance it's just that i'll do something else instead if we're going to continue as we are for the moment. Each to their own, you continue getting all upset with yourselves over the way you perceive the club is being run, i'll just chill out and do other things if necessary. Hard to not care about something that’s such a big part of your life. You clearly care because you wouldn’t be going for so long or be posting on here, doing something else on a weekend says enough about how your feelings have changed. We all want what’s best but I don’t really understand the point of going if people aren’t bothered about how well we are doing. Surely at that point it’s just a chore rather than a love |
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 3, 2024 17:16:58 GMT 1
Has there been an improvement this season so far ?
Great start against Peterborough. Then a steady decline in performances. Injuries haven’t helped but every team has them.
Cause for concern ? Some as it’s upto Duff to improve them. He hasn’t in the last few games.
Last seasons January transfer business really hasn’t worked out at all. Those players are just injured. Baulker unlucky for sure.
I’m not sure we are top two material - we just lack quality and consistency up front. It says a lot (and fair play to him) that Koroma has been our most effective striker.
It isn’t the “firepower” that Nagle talked about though.
Nowhere near.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 3, 2024 17:18:26 GMT 1
Maybe they just don't care as much as you do. I certainly don't. I've been going for 53 years and would like to think I'll continue for another 20+ as long as I'm able but I'm not going to get in the state you clearly let yourself do if things don't go as you'd like them to. We set off with the intention of going to as many away games as possible this season as it's a while since we've been to a lot of these grounds (pointless cup games aside) but I suspect we'll not be bothering with Bolton now. It's not acceptance it's just that i'll do something else instead if we're going to continue as we are for the moment. Each to their own, you continue getting all upset with yourselves over the way you perceive the club is being run, i'll just chill out and do other things if necessary. Hard to not care about something that’s such a big part of your life. You clearly care because you wouldn’t be going for so long or be posting on here, doing something else on a weekend says enough about how your feelings have changed. We all want what’s best but I don’t really understand the point of going if people aren’t bothered about how well we are doing. Surely at that point it’s just a chore rather than a love Some fans can be bothered and care without feeling the need to stamp their feet every time we dont win. |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 3, 2024 17:40:23 GMT 1
Has there been an improvement this season so far ? Great start against Peterborough. Then a steady decline in performances. Injuries haven’t helped but every team has them. Cause for concern ? Some as it’s upto Duff to improve them. He hasn’t in the last few games. Last seasons January transfer business really hasn’t worked out at all. Those players are just injured. Baulker unlucky for sure. I’m not sure we are top two material - we just lack quality and consistency up front. It says a lot (and fair play to him) that Koroma has been our most effective striker. It isn’t the “firepower” that Nagle talked about though. Nowhere near. To be fair, all the more reason there’s a need to see an improved performance tonight, despite it being a Mickey Mouse cup….. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 3, 2024 17:47:34 GMT 1
Hard to not care about something that’s such a big part of your life. You clearly care because you wouldn’t be going for so long or be posting on here, doing something else on a weekend says enough about how your feelings have changed. We all want what’s best but I don’t really understand the point of going if people aren’t bothered about how well we are doing. Surely at that point it’s just a chore rather than a love Some fans can be bothered and care without feeling the need to stamp their feet every time we dont win. Considering we’ve won 26 out of our last 96 league games I’m surprised the stadium hasn’t fallen down |
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Post by royrace on Sept 3, 2024 18:51:49 GMT 1
Has there been an improvement this season so far ? Great start against Peterborough. Then a steady decline in performances. Injuries haven’t helped but every team has them. Cause for concern ? Some as it’s upto Duff to improve them. He hasn’t in the last few games. Last seasons January transfer business really hasn’t worked out at all. Those players are just injured. Baulker unlucky for sure. I’m not sure we are top two material - we just lack quality and consistency up front. It says a lot (and fair play to him) that Koroma has been our most effective striker. It isn’t the “firepower” that Nagle talked about though. Nowhere near. At the moment it looks like we're in L1 to stay. Seems perhaps the summer business hasn't been as good as we'd hoped, they haven't brought in a proven striker, we're still getting injuries galore and the transfer net spend is about minus £4 million pounds at a guess. I'm amazed people aren't more pissed off tbh. It's not really the genuine shot at automatic promotion that we were led to expect, far from it in fact. Plus the biggest squad omission being the obvious one that everyone has known about since well before they tried to solve it in January by buying one injury prone striker and one from a Mickey mouse league. At least they've got the excuses lined up. It's all someone else's fault... Again. I see some are still toeing the line and blaming NW  |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 3, 2024 20:59:02 GMT 1
Remember people, get your dry nites on. Not allowed to be concerned
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 3, 2024 21:02:07 GMT 1
Don't wet the beds folks, it's only 3 defeats on the trot
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Post by heycarpet on Sept 3, 2024 21:08:19 GMT 1
Same old shite from the past couple of seasons. Depressing. Fuck off happy clappers we are shite.
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Post by waggers on Sept 3, 2024 21:16:56 GMT 1
Don't wet the beds folks, it's only 3 defeats on the trot Two of which to League 2 teams.... |
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Post by scroutum on Sept 3, 2024 21:23:45 GMT 1
Seems to have been some proper upset folk since the recent losses but, bloody hell, calm down! - We have one of the best starts to a league campaign in recent years (as far as I can see, since Hoyle took over - or the modern era in my mind - only better start was the promotion season under Wagner!) - We have a new set of lads AND manager that will take a fair bit of time to bed in and gel We have not been smashed by anyone yet and look solid in defence, and still need to get the front line fit to see what they are made of (yes, yes there are issues there but we should have enough to get to January / and / or a player our of contract / loan etc etc ) In that promotion season - basically one of the best ever as a Town fan - we had a spell when we went 8 games with just one win and had 5 losses, including a 5-0!! Can you imagine if that happened now? It would be DUFF OUT, NAGLE IS A NIGHTMARE, SACK CARTWIRGHT! BLAH BLAH! But what happened that season?...... so..... chill. UTFT. your opinion,mine is were garbage and have a midfield that is crap,no forward line and a pace less defence,all opinions are valid not just happy clappers |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 3, 2024 22:28:01 GMT 1
Kev might be fitting some plastic sheets as well….
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Post by 28901 on Sept 3, 2024 22:32:55 GMT 1
He had full confidence in Darren Moore the week before he sacked him.
He had full confidence in Brightenshiter before he got us relegated
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 3, 2024 22:37:02 GMT 1
He had full confidence in Darren Moore the week before he sacked him. He had full confidence in Brightenshiter before he got us relegated Let's hope he doesn't get trigger happy. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 3, 2024 23:06:49 GMT 1
He had full confidence in Darren Moore the week before he sacked him. He had full confidence in Brightenshiter before he got us relegated Let's hope he doesn't get trigger happy. I can't see how he can blame Duff at this early stage. He might want to question the state of the squad though and the amount of injuries. Obviously as pissed off as the fans at what appears to be evidence that we're miles off being promotion contenders despite targets and assurances. I wonder whether he believes there were only two strikers in the entire world who would have improved the team. |
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Post by willo on Sept 4, 2024 0:05:19 GMT 1
Let's hope he doesn't get trigger happy. I can't see how he can blame Duff at this early stage. He might want to question the state of the squad though and the amount of injuries. Obviously as pissed off as the fans at what appears to be evidence that we're miles off being promotion contenders despite targets and assurances. I wonder whether he believes there were only two strikers in the entire world who would have improved the team. After our business this summer, I still thought (think) our team is good enough for about halfway up, maybe the fringes of the top 10. Talk of automatic promotion is laughable, not a hope with this team. A season of transition and stability (hopefully) beckons I’m afraid. |
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 4, 2024 0:49:20 GMT 1
I can't see how he can blame Duff at this early stage. He might want to question the state of the squad though and the amount of injuries. Obviously as pissed off as the fans at what appears to be evidence that we're miles off being promotion contenders despite targets and assurances. I wonder whether he believes there were only two strikers in the entire world who would have improved the team. After our business this summer, I still thought (think) our team is good enough for about halfway up, maybe the fringes of the top 10. Talk of automatic promotion is laughable, not a hope with this team. A season of transition and stability (hopefully) beckons I’m afraid. If all we can aspire to is a season of transition and stability Nagle & Co might have a nasty surprise when they try to peddle next year's season cards. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 4, 2024 1:23:49 GMT 1
He had full confidence in Darren Moore the week before he sacked him. He had full confidence in Brightenshiter before he got us relegated Let's hope he doesn't get trigger happy. Could do with some players getting trigger happy though ! ⚽️ 🥅 ⚽️ |
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Post by wigster on Sept 4, 2024 1:28:34 GMT 1
Let's hope he doesn't get trigger happy. I can't see how he can blame Duff at this early stage. He might want to question the state of the squad though and the amount of injuries. Obviously as pissed off as the fans at what appears to be evidence that we're miles off being promotion contenders despite targets and assurances. I wonder whether he believes there were only two strikers in the entire world who would have improved the team. Excellent post Roy - I was amazed when I read what he said about there only being one striker that fitted our requirements. Absolutely staggering. He has admitted that he is still learning. Is it Mr Cartwright who is feeding him this rubbish and how long will it be before he recognises, in KN's, words "BS". Tonight there was so little quality on show, from the old tried and tested relegated team, and from the new signings. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 4, 2024 1:28:42 GMT 1
Don't wet the beds folks, it's only 3 defeats on the trot And guess who’s up next - Yep, it’s The Trotters... Lose that and it’ll no be Pishing the bed - But... Skittering the Scratcher more like ! 🧻 |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 4, 2024 8:08:31 GMT 1
After our business this summer, I still thought (think) our team is good enough for about halfway up, maybe the fringes of the top 10. Talk of automatic promotion is laughable, not a hope with this team. A season of transition and stability (hopefully) beckons I’m afraid. If all we can aspire to is a season of transition and stability Nagle & Co might have a nasty surprise when they try to peddle next year's season cards. That’s my main concern. Finish outside of the play offs (which is looking very realistic) and season ticket price hikes will go down like a lead balloon. |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 4, 2024 8:13:49 GMT 1
If all we can aspire to is a season of transition and stability Nagle & Co might have a nasty surprise when they try to peddle next year's season cards. That’s my main concern. Finish outside of the play offs (which is looking very realistic) and season ticket price hikes will go down like a lead balloon. How can finishing outside the play offs look ‘very realistic’ when we’ve 42 games left to play? Surely the only ‘very realistic’ thing is that we are actually in the play off places? |
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 4, 2024 8:33:56 GMT 1
That’s my main concern. Finish outside of the play offs (which is looking very realistic) and season ticket price hikes will go down like a lead balloon. How can finishing outside the play offs look ‘very realistic’ when we’ve 42 games left to play? Surely the only ‘very realistic’ thing is that we are actually in the play off places? As Martin Paterson said in the pre-game presser, look to performances and the results will take care of themselves. The performances have generally been poor and getting worse. |
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Post by tottz on Sept 4, 2024 8:42:12 GMT 1
We have won 4
We have lost 3
We have looked convincing in 2, perhaps 3
We haven't signed adequate numbers in a key arra targeted by the club
The chairman is slabbering about the players on Twitter.
We have spent years and years getting pumped.
Your reaction to this is valid.
The more panicked reaction is also valid.
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Post by townrwe on Sept 4, 2024 8:45:35 GMT 1
I like Duff.. but the 10 game rule applies to any manager.
The decline is rapid and pressure is building already.... if we looked to have a plan then it would be a start.
I hope it doesn't... but if this continues the way it's going then cartwright needs the bullet at the same time.
Only at Huddersfield do decent managers and players turn into absolute horse shit.
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