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Post by calken on Sept 18, 2024 14:09:23 GMT 1
Large men in a line run into each other, are hauled down to the floor, flounder like a salmon, get up and then repeat again and again. Sounds like the Premier League. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 18, 2024 15:36:10 GMT 1
A tenuous link but he was a friend of my mum's boss and I spent a lot of time at her workplace growing up, he was there regularly and he was genuinely a lovely bloke. He obviously has the Giants best interests at heart and nobody can blame him for that, if KN's purchase of the 20% shares helps fund a small stadium for the Giants then we can't have any issues with that. With KN's business acumen he must feel like he can recoup that outlay over time otherwise he just wouldn't do it. he's just sold 3m Fintel shares at £3 each, and retains 25 million shares in Fintel..He can afford a new stadium without any worries about cash.. I think people are massively underestimating the cost of even a small stadium. It's cost Wakefield Trinity £12m just to upgrade Belle Vue. A very normal looking main stand cost them £8m. Davy would need to start from scratch and acquire the land and put in all the necessary infrastructure. Not saying he can't afford it, but he's going to need to shell out more than those £9m in shares. |
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 18, 2024 15:58:55 GMT 1
he's just sold 3m Fintel shares at £3 each, and retains 25 million shares in Fintel..He can afford a new stadium without any worries about cash.. I think people are massively underestimating the cost of even a small stadium. It's cost Wakefield Trinity £12m just to upgrade Belle Vue. A very normal looking main stand cost them £8m. Davy would need to start from scratch and acquire the land and put in all the necessary infrastructure. Not saying he can't afford it, but he's going to need to shell out more than those £9m in shares. I guess he'll be getting something from Nagle for his stake in the stadium. |
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Post by keefer on Sept 18, 2024 16:09:56 GMT 1
I think people are massively underestimating the cost of even a small stadium. It's cost Wakefield Trinity £12m just to upgrade Belle Vue. A very normal looking main stand cost them £8m. Davy would need to start from scratch and acquire the land and put in all the necessary infrastructure. Not saying he can't afford it, but he's going to need to shell out more than those £9m in shares. I guess he'll be getting something from Nagle for his stake in the stadium. 20% of the value, less 20% of the debts? |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 18, 2024 16:11:07 GMT 1
I think people are massively underestimating the cost of even a small stadium. It's cost Wakefield Trinity £12m just to upgrade Belle Vue. A very normal looking main stand cost them £8m. Davy would need to start from scratch and acquire the land and put in all the necessary infrastructure. Not saying he can't afford it, but he's going to need to shell out more than those £9m in shares. I guess he'll be getting something from Nagle for his stake in the stadium. True. But the new Plough Lane is a very normal 9000 seater stadium and it cost £34m. So he'll be needing much more than the £1 defacto valuation of his shares (based on his £2 valuation of Town's shares)! |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 18, 2024 16:28:49 GMT 1
I guess he'll be getting something from Nagle for his stake in the stadium. True. But the new Plough Lane is a very normal 9000 seater stadium and it cost £34m. So he'll be needing much more than the £1 defacto valuation of his shares (based on his £2 valuation of Town's shares)! Is that just the construction costs? Or the land too? Land in SW19 will be much more expensive than in Huddersfield. |
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Post by soapystevens on Sept 18, 2024 16:35:31 GMT 1
The new stadium will have to be somewhere pretty big for the car park and an ideal spot is the old Jarmain factory in Dalton, only past it last week thinking what a massive derelict area it is.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2024 19:58:11 GMT 1
Bore off all you Giants haters, Rugby league is a man's game I'd love the Giants to thrive purely because I'm from Huddersfield. The problem for Rugby League is that it is a godawful spectator sport. Large men in a line run into each other, are hauled down to the floor, flounder like a salmon, get up and then repeat again and again. It's not just the Giants where crowds are falling, it's a Rugby League wide problem. Were I forced to make a choice Town would win hands down, but to say it’s not a spectator sport is a nonsense really. It’s just that it’s niche and very regionalised. It’s far more deserving of the word ‘sport’ than any professional football competition. They can’t shirk, they don’t time waste and they respect the Ref. A far cry from the theatre of a football match. Football can be played in any direction, so it can be a fast game at times, but pound for pound RL is a far faster game than football. But I can’t argue that football has a much wider appeal for the masses. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 18, 2024 20:08:54 GMT 1
Boston’s new stadium cost £12m to build 3 years ago. Just over 4,000 capacity so the giants may want slightly more but a bit of extra terracing can’t cost loads.
Interested to know what their two options are. The land opposite the gas club would be perfect as they could use the car park at the John Smiths. Not sure it is large enough though.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 18, 2024 20:14:01 GMT 1
The new stadium will have to be somewhere pretty big for the car park and an ideal spot is the old Jarmain factory in Dalton, only past it last week thinking what a massive derelict area it is. Great shout |
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Post by griffa on Sept 19, 2024 7:16:39 GMT 1
Watch and like both Rugby League and Rugby Union.
Rugby League, would be more attractive, if contested scrummaging, was re-introduced.
Both Rugby codes are facing financial challenges, at club level.
Ironically International Rugby Union, is booming!
Cannot see Ken Davey, building a basic stadium, with a capacity of 10,000, for less than £20 million!
Looking forward to Giants moving out of JS Stadium, can a new stadium be built within the next 5 years? - UTT.
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Post by ldr on Sept 19, 2024 8:07:19 GMT 1
Watch and like both Rugby League and Rugby Union. Rugby League, would be more attractive, if contested scrummaging, was re-introduced. Both Rugby codes are facing financial challenges, at club level. Ironically International Rugby Union, is booming! Cannot see Ken Davey, building a basic stadium, with a capacity of 10,000, for less than £20 million! Looking forward to Giants moving out of JS Stadium, can a new stadium be built within the next 5 years? - UTT. The international RU scene is flourishing and a superb product. As I get older, it is more appealing than football to me. Watched SA v NZ the other day from the Championship and it was a brilliant sporting contest. In Ireland, the int’l set up supports the provinces and this is the way it seems to be going in England. RL doesn’t have that going for it at all. |
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Post by detox on Sept 19, 2024 8:58:22 GMT 1
he's just sold 3m Fintel shares at £3 each, and retains 25 million shares in Fintel..He can afford a new stadium without any worries about cash.. I think people are massively underestimating the cost of even a small stadium. It's cost Wakefield Trinity £12m just to upgrade Belle Vue. A very normal looking main stand cost them £8m. Davy would need to start from scratch and acquire the land and put in all the necessary infrastructure. Not saying he can't afford it, but he's going to need to shell out more than those £9m in shares. well he could use some of the £75m from his remaining holdings...he still has SimplyBiz...and other assets...non of which I begrudge him by the way... You can't take it with you when you 'pop your clogs' can you... |
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Post by benhomly on Sept 19, 2024 9:08:24 GMT 1
The new stadium will have to be somewhere pretty big for the car park and an ideal spot is the old Jarmain factory in Dalton, only past it last week thinking what a massive derelict area it is. I'm sure the residents of Dalton, Waterloo and Kirkheaton will be delighted with your suggestion  . That road where the Harvey's Drive Thru red herring is situated is a nightmare at the best of times. |
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Post by detox on Sept 19, 2024 9:11:22 GMT 1
If Davy is looking for sites, ideally derelict sites in need of rejuvination...where grants might be available..and the land could be 100 year lease (rather than buying it)...it would have to avoid being near housing as there would no doubt be objections, it would need good access roads, space for parking, not miles out of town, .. Dewsbury's ground is up on the outskirts with good access..that's the sort of thing he needs I suppose. Access will be the main issue as far as the planning dept are concerned...I'll have to look on google maps for the Dalton site mentioned above..I don't know where Jarmain was.
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Post by El Mel on Sept 19, 2024 9:41:00 GMT 1
The Jarmain site would be ideal for housing, but no developers want to take it on as the cost of digging up and removing the concrete is too high apparently.
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Post by detox on Sept 19, 2024 9:43:38 GMT 1
The Jarmain site would be ideal for housing, but no developers want to take it on as the cost of digging up and removing the concrete is too high apparently. can't they just paint it green..RL players are too soft....  |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 19, 2024 9:43:50 GMT 1
Can be a Giants hater without disliking RL... What about those Town fans from Dewsbury or Batley? Are we not allowed to support our local RL side? 🤔 Whatever floats your boat, normally Leeds utd fans when I've been to Batley or Dewsbury RL grounds, the hatred for davey is pathetic on this board, who took more money ken or hoyle, who pulled club out of shit?, dont really have to answer that do I? Oh God not this weirdo again. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 19, 2024 9:51:42 GMT 1
If Davy is looking for sites, ideally derelict sites in need of rejuvination...where grants might be available..and the land could be 100 year lease (rather than buying it)...it would have to avoid being near housing as there would no doubt be objections, it would need good access roads, space for parking, not miles out of town, .. Dewsbury's ground is up on the outskirts with good access..that's the sort of thing he needs I suppose. Access will be the main issue as far as the planning dept are concerned...I'll have to look on google maps for the Dalton site mentioned above..I don't know where Jarmain was. Dewsbury ground does have good road access but it's abit out of the way. Think Giants would be better with a new ground that's as close to the town centre as possible and try to raise the Clubs profile that way. Still think the Gas works site is the best option. You could fit an 8,000 capacity stadium on it no trouble at all as well as car parking. 6 or 7 minute walk from the railway station. No residents would be effected that aren't already with the JSS. The land is owed by KSDL (surely make a deal easier with Giants and Town being shareholders). |
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Post by detox on Sept 19, 2024 10:00:44 GMT 1
If Davy is looking for sites, ideally derelict sites in need of rejuvination...where grants might be available..and the land could be 100 year lease (rather than buying it)...it would have to avoid being near housing as there would no doubt be objections, it would need good access roads, space for parking, not miles out of town, .. Dewsbury's ground is up on the outskirts with good access..that's the sort of thing he needs I suppose. Access will be the main issue as far as the planning dept are concerned...I'll have to look on google maps for the Dalton site mentioned above..I don't know where Jarmain was. Dewsbury ground does have good road access but it's abit out of the way. Think Giants would be better with a new ground that's as close to the town centre as possible and try to raise the Clubs profile that way. Still think the Gas works site is the best option. You could fit an 8,000 capacity stadium on it no trouble at all as well as car parking. 6 or 7 minute walk from the railway station. No residents would be effected that aren't already with the JSS. The land is owed by KSDL (surely make a deal easier with Giants and Town being shareholders). I haven't really looked at this, but do you mean build the stadium where the car park is now and use the other side of the road for car parking ? Looking briefly on 'maps' where the old gas containers were it doesn't look big enough for a stadium.. |
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Post by detox on Sept 19, 2024 10:02:51 GMT 1
Dewsbury ground does have good road access but it's abit out of the way. Think Giants would be better with a new ground that's as close to the town centre as possible and try to raise the Clubs profile that way. Still think the Gas works site is the best option. You could fit an 8,000 capacity stadium on it no trouble at all as well as car parking. 6 or 7 minute walk from the railway station. No residents would be effected that aren't already with the JSS. The land is owed by KSDL (surely make a deal easier with Giants and Town being shareholders). I haven't really looked at this, but do you mean build the stadium where the car park is now and use the other side of the road for car parking ? Looking briefly on 'maps' where the old gas containers were it doesn't look big enough for a stadium..  |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 19, 2024 10:17:19 GMT 1
I haven't really looked at this, but do you mean build the stadium where the car park is now and use the other side of the road for car parking ? Looking briefly on 'maps' where the old gas containers were it doesn't look big enough for a stadium.. Yes I do, although you are probably right. Looking at the photo from the aireal view. Feels alot bigger stood in the car park though. |
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Post by terrier86 on Sept 19, 2024 11:43:44 GMT 1
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 19, 2024 12:42:10 GMT 1
Is that likely given the access issue and the traffic problems it would bring, |
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Post by deucebigalow77 on Sept 19, 2024 15:45:09 GMT 1
Is that likely given the access issue and the traffic problems it would bring, Didn't the pavilion burn down ? I have it in my mind Davy bought the spot without doing the correct research and naff all can actually happen there ? Or maybe I've drempt it 🤔 |
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Post by soapystevens on Sept 19, 2024 16:14:32 GMT 1
The problem with the old gas container/s they can easily be dismantled but it is the clean up of years of industrial waste that is the problem, and part of that clean up is arsenic so in total you could be look at 3/4 year's before it could be used.
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 19, 2024 17:16:47 GMT 1
I wonder what they will call!! the new stadium, The Gasworks Stadium, The Davey Arena, Uncle Kens.
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2024 17:24:30 GMT 1
I wonder what they will call!! the new stadium, The Gasworks Stadium, The Davey Arena, Uncle Kens. Unlikely to be your second suggestion, Davy Arena maybe? 😂 Not just players and managers that get spelt wrong 😂 |
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 19, 2024 20:41:54 GMT 1
Playing well here. 22-0. Not many there to watch it though!
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 20, 2024 9:04:38 GMT 1
Playing well here. 22-0. Not many there to watch it though! Everyone went to the new stadium at ⠎⠑⠉⠗⠑⠞⠶⠏⠇⠁⠉⠑⠶⠞⠓⠁⠞⠶⠺⠑⠶⠉⠁⠝⠄⠞⠶⠞⠁⠇⠅⠶⠁⠃⠕⠥⠞ |
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. That road where the Harvey's Drive Thru red herring is situated is a nightmare at the best of times. 
