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Post by Big Ern on Sept 24, 2024 16:20:33 GMT 1
I'm trying to workout how you fail to see the bigger picture and only what's in black and white. You can sway it both ways, it's a fact we are 5th but it's also a fact that we have won 1 in 5. Most points that took us to 5th were got before this run It is a fact that in the league we are 4 of 6, so in first instance you looked to be inventing/creating a scenario to make a point, and now manipulating facts to make a point. At least you are consistent in b your approach 😋👏 How am I manipulating facts? If it's a fact its a fact, you can use the facts positively or negatively dependant on your approach. Fact we have win 1 in 5 Fact we have won 4 in 6 league games. No manipulation there. What is accurate however is that we won the first 3 games of the season then lost the next 3 and have since won one and lost one. In my opinion that points to a downturn in form and one that has me concerned. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 24, 2024 16:33:49 GMT 1
If I see Hogg starting tonight, i'm gonna stay in the pub
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Post by bogart on Sept 24, 2024 16:36:48 GMT 1
As mentioned if we win tonight we are 3rd not exactly a calamitous situation.
Like others was pissed off by Saturday's
performance, or non performance.
I just hope that Hogg does not feature in the starting eleven
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 24, 2024 16:39:29 GMT 1
NEEDS to play kane tonight
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Post by dezzly on Sept 24, 2024 17:14:09 GMT 1
NEEDS to play kane tonight Potentially not ready minute wise though. Can see hodge playing but maybe not Kane just yet. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 24, 2024 17:15:13 GMT 1
NEEDS to play kane tonight Hodge looked better than Kane on Saturday For me it is Hodge who has to start if it is only one of them. I'd start both but I can't see Duff doing that I'd also bring Spencer in for Lees to give us that bit more pace at the back as I'm sure Bruce will be looking to target that side like Northampton did |
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Post by irverino on Sept 24, 2024 17:17:27 GMT 1
Burn Tom Lees Stone Jaheim Headley to death Take Michael Duff to the tower Remotely detonate explosives under anyone clapping or smiling whilst we aren't in front If we win and go 3rd then put a hold on the executions and say "oops, sorry - maybe we over reacted just a little". Xmas just gone Man City form for previous six league games was won 1, lost 1 & drawn 4. Some were saying no chance of the title & Peps days were numbered.........Makes you wonder if MD would/will survive a one win in six (league games)? |
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Post by Amigo on Sept 24, 2024 17:19:55 GMT 1
If Miller even has one good leg he needs to start.
Hogg and one of Wiles or Evans out for Hodge and Kane, if Kane isn't fit enough to start yet or a risk for a full game then Iorpenda.
Koroma and Ladapo up front.
Incidentally I read Herbie Kane saying he'd captained Barnsley last season when Williams was out and enjoyed it because he likes to encourage his team mates and get messages out to players and doesn't enjoy shouting and bollocking team mates. Might sound soft but after Helik's fuck up on Saturday someone should have gone over to him and round the others with a basic message of sod it, it's one cock up we've ages left yet.
Instead it was heads down, walk off, nobody say a word, give up.
I'm not saying he would be a great captain by the way I've absolutely no idea, I just know that we desperately need one that can lift them and organise them when things go shit.
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 24, 2024 17:24:58 GMT 1
I think the team selection tonight will say a lot about Duff as a manager and whether he is seeing the blatantly obvious that fans are seeing, or whether he is another who will fall foul of the Hogg trap. If he starts both Hogg and Headley tonight I will have lost all faith in him. I wouldn’t blame him for making 11 changes, but those 2 are a must. Headley isn’t even good enough back up, he should be out on loan. Hogg is simply not good enough anymore in my opinion. He stifles all our creativity, his passing is negative and poor at best and he offers us little to no goal threat or assists. He is the constant running through years and years of this ‘football’ we have had the displeasure of suffering.
The performance will say a lot about the players under Duff too, because we can’t afford anymore performances like that against relegation candidates in League 1. I mean it should not happen in the first place especially when Duff told us before the game no-one was going to be complacent. Got to be at it from the word go and if it’s not working and they are stifling us, plan B would be good to see, just so we know we actually have one.
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Post by alex on Sept 24, 2024 17:28:44 GMT 1
We can not be this shite twice in a row?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 24, 2024 17:34:43 GMT 1
NEEDS to play kane tonight Hodge looked better than Kane on Saturday For me it is Hodge who has to start if it is only one of them. I'd start both but I can't see Duff doing that I'd also bring Spencer in for Lees to give us that bit more pace at the back as I'm sure Bruce will be looking to target that side like Northampton did can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. |
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Post by rocky on Sept 24, 2024 17:35:23 GMT 1
It is a fact that in the league we are 4 of 6, so in first instance you looked to be inventing/creating a scenario to make a point, and now manipulating facts to make a point. At least you are consistent in b your approach 😋👏 How am I manipulating facts? If it's a fact its a fact, you can use the facts positively or negatively dependant on your approach. Fact we have win 1 in 5 Fact we have won 4 in 6 league games. No manipulation there. What is accurate however is that we won the first 3 games of the season then lost the next 3 and have since won one and lost one. In my opinion that points to a downturn in form and one that has me concerned. By stating ‘we’ have 1 win in 5, you are manipulating the facts though. 100% of posters on here and fans in general relate use of the word ‘we’ (in that context) to the strongest team we can put out, not one comprised of fringe and B team players. It is simply wrong to use the word ‘we’ in your 1 in 5 fact, because in 2 of those games (as you well know) a massively under strength team played. The only meaningful fact is that the season has only been going a month and we have won 4 in 6. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 24, 2024 17:35:27 GMT 1
We can not be this shite twice in a row? OOOO we can , O yes we can . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2024 17:42:59 GMT 1
If we score first I think we will win. I think there will be some changes. I am starting to worry about us at home. Rotherham away was just a crap day but at home the level of noise has really dropped. The players need the crowd and if all we get is silence and frustration it will not help. I thought once we got a slice of the south stand it would help but the rest of the crowd seem to leave it up to them, and if they are quiet so is the whole place.
I don’t want to be one of those teams that are better away because they don’t have the crowd on their backs. I can understand Duff being ‘prickly’ after the last match because he had just seen one of his young players booed off by a bunch of morons for not playing as well as they thought he should. When on earth did that start? We’ve watched all sorts of players over the years as we have gone up and down divisions but I don’t remember that happening until recently. The same with Lees trying to get some realism into people saying you cannot expect to win them all.
I’m away or I would be there. I hope they play well and that the crowd are something like a home crowd should be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2024 17:44:04 GMT 1
Hodge looked better than Kane on Saturday For me it is Hodge who has to start if it is only one of them. I'd start both but I can't see Duff doing that I'd also bring Spencer in for Lees to give us that bit more pace at the back as I'm sure Bruce will be looking to target that side like Northampton did can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. I think Marshall is 6ft. |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 24, 2024 17:46:25 GMT 1
How am I manipulating facts? If it's a fact its a fact, you can use the facts positively or negatively dependant on your approach. Fact we have win 1 in 5 Fact we have won 4 in 6 league games. No manipulation there. What is accurate however is that we won the first 3 games of the season then lost the next 3 and have since won one and lost one. In my opinion that points to a downturn in form and one that has me concerned. By stating ‘we’ have 1 win in 5, you are manipulating the facts though. 100% of posters on here and fans in general relate use of the word ‘we’ (in that context) to the strongest team we can put out, not one comprised of fringe and B team players. It is simply wrong to use the word ‘we’ in your 1 in 5 fact, because in 2 of those games (as you well know) a massively under strength team played. The only meaningful fact is that the season has only been going a month and we have won 4 in 6. Not really though is it, if you are factoring in the strength of the team then why can't you factor in the strength of the opposition? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 24, 2024 17:46:59 GMT 1
can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. I think Marshall is 6ft. Really? I thought he was shorter, but the way Duff was talking like Hodge was 5ft at best . He cannot be much smaller than say Hogg or Kasmu for example. Plus i thought in todays game, if your good enough your good enough, i mean Man u have got a 5.9 inch centre half . |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 24, 2024 17:51:32 GMT 1
can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. I think Marshall is 6ft. Marshall doesn't look 6ft but that could be his hunched posture |
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Post by Niggled on Sept 24, 2024 17:56:35 GMT 1
How tall is Messi
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 24, 2024 17:58:05 GMT 1
We can not be this shite twice in a row? You sure about that? |
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Post by bogart on Sept 24, 2024 18:04:20 GMT 1
Hodge looked better than Kane on Saturday For me it is Hodge who has to start if it is only one of them. I'd start both but I can't see Duff doing that I'd also bring Spencer in for Lees to give us that bit more pace at the back as I'm sure Bruce will be looking to target that side like Northampton did can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. What has height got to do with it? In theory should be more adapt at a quick turn which people such as Hogg are seemingly incapable off. |
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Post by bogart on Sept 24, 2024 18:06:05 GMT 1
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 24, 2024 18:06:10 GMT 1
Hodge looked better than Kane on Saturday For me it is Hodge who has to start if it is only one of them. I'd start both but I can't see Duff doing that I'd also bring Spencer in for Lees to give us that bit more pace at the back as I'm sure Bruce will be looking to target that side like Northampton did can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. Hodge is 5'6" Hogg is 5'7" |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 24, 2024 18:08:00 GMT 1
Not impressed with myself but I’m not gonna bother going down, Bruce and Rhodes visiting after what we witnessed on Saturday is a recipe for more heartache. Sincerely hope I’m wrong.
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Post by keefer on Sept 24, 2024 18:10:53 GMT 1
Angel Gomez is 5' 6" and he's not big enough either. Even though he's an England international
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Post by tonytiler on Sept 24, 2024 18:12:20 GMT 1
Waiting for the team sheet with expectations that the non performers are dropped.If it's the same as Saturday then Duff deserves all the negatives and anger that will follow if there is another shit show performance tonight.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 24, 2024 18:14:03 GMT 1
Go 1-0 down and the majority of our players are always suddenly 3 foot 2 anyway.
I do actually think we'll win tonight though and fairly well.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 24, 2024 18:14:36 GMT 1
can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. Hodge is 5'6" Hogg is 5'7" Exactly when Duff was talking about it, it was like there was a huge difference. I am sure a certain Mr Mackele was not very tall himself or kate for that matter. It seems a little bit daft to bring up his height, as if it was why sign him? |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 24, 2024 18:19:38 GMT 1
Hodge looked better than Kane on Saturday For me it is Hodge who has to start if it is only one of them. I'd start both but I can't see Duff doing that I'd also bring Spencer in for Lees to give us that bit more pace at the back as I'm sure Bruce will be looking to target that side like Northampton did can't start hodge he is too small, duff words not mine. How short is Hodge 3ft 6? he can't be much smaller than Hogg or Marshall. Excuses not to drop Hogg it seems more like. Are you talking about what he said in the presser? He said something along the lines of “you (hodge) have to be a good footballer when you’re that small” bit different to, “i’m not starting him because he’s small”, isn’t it? Or has he said something else? |
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Post by rocky on Sept 24, 2024 18:20:28 GMT 1
By stating ‘we’ have 1 win in 5, you are manipulating the facts though. 100% of posters on here and fans in general relate use of the word ‘we’ (in that context) to the strongest team we can put out, not one comprised of fringe and B team players. It is simply wrong to use the word ‘we’ in your 1 in 5 fact, because in 2 of those games (as you well know) a massively under strength team played. The only meaningful fact is that the season has only been going a month and we have won 4 in 6. Not really though is it, if you are factoring in the strength of the team then why can't you factor in the strength of the opposition? Because it’s irrelevant to what is being discussed here. |
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