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Post by huddersfc on Oct 1, 2024 21:57:35 GMT 1
What an absolute fucking disgrace that second half performance was. We created absolutely nothing, I genuinely cant recall even a half chance of any note. Should have been about 4 or 5 -0, they missed some absolute sitters. Some of the signings arent just bad signings, they are absolutely criminal. Genuinely was Ladapo actually scouted? Or did Cartwright just throw him a couple of years in desperation because he failed miserably during the summer?
The worrying thing is how we are going to get shut of these players, or are we going to have to watch this until they all run out of contract, cus until a lot go, we wont be bringing anyone else in. We could be talking 2 or 3 years now until we can clear out this lot. We are plummetting down the table, FIFTEENTH after 9 games, just let that sink in. We could genuinely be looking at a double relegation because we are spent, performance wise, results wise, transfer wise, running of the club.
Nagle needs to get off twitter, get his arse over here and sort this club out, or fuck off and let someone else do it who actually seems to be interested. While he is leaving the football side of things in the hands of Cartwright, there is still a long way further we will sink. I dont think I have ever known as bad a director of football at this club. We arent just signing duds, we are signing players that wouldnt look out of place in the Conference, that look like we havnt even bothered to have them watched by anyone. We all know that Cartwright wont go anywhere though, just watch as manager after manager take the fall for it. You look at all the players Birmingham have signed, they just got the transfers done. Now im not suggesting for a minute we follow suit with spending that amount, but we couldnt even get Taylor over the line. Just pay the fucking money if thats the player you want, or cheap out, sign Ladapo and watch him struggle to score 5 goals all season. Honestly, the amount of money we waste getting the cheap options, it would have been cheaper in the long run to just go for quality in the first place.
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Post by BlueValour on Oct 1, 2024 21:57:54 GMT 1
Ladapo is fucking useless. He lumbers about up front with the play going on around him. The one time he had the ball it was stolen from him easier than candy from a (big) baby!
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Oct 1, 2024 21:58:22 GMT 1
This will be controversial but the only way to get the owner's attention is to not attend games, not buy any merchandise and generally keep your money in your pockets. The owners are here to make a profit and anything in the way of that will cause alarm bells to wring. It's too late as regards season tickets but by not attending and then not buying their goods it will rattle them. As I say it is controversial and defeats the whole object of following a football club but it was the tactic that worked at others.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Oct 1, 2024 21:58:39 GMT 1
Might be a controversial one this but… …we do miss Ward’s hold up play And his pressing. Scraping the barrel but what else can we do
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 1, 2024 21:59:32 GMT 1
Don't agree with that. He broke up loads of play. He's not great on the ball but for me he was one of our better players on the night. Kasumu lacks quality on the ball but his effort couldn't be faulted. Agree. Kasumu energises us - we have no capable ball player for him to give it to. On a few occasions this evening he was forced to run with the ball because he simply had no options. Other positive was Chapman. Looks very calm under pressure.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 1, 2024 22:00:59 GMT 1
Absolutely sickening this. We are playing Birmingham City, Peterborough went at them and scored twice. Why are we so afraid to attack? Sitting in our own half all game waiting for may to score, pathetic. Where was the response? There wasn't one. Absolutely none existent midfield. No pressing, no urgency. Give iorpenda a game! Start hodge! Ladapo is a pathetic choice of a striker to bring in. We were promised an overhaul. We are still playing laboured football full of statues. Fuck off Cartwright. Agree with all this. Evans and Wiles are really starting to piss me off now, look decent first 20/30 mins then they go missing every single game & have terrible body language. They’re either unfit or have the heart of a flea, most likely both. We have no pace. The panic signings of Radulovic & Healey were bad but the signing of Ladapo on a 2 year contract is the final straw. Cartwright is destroying this club, get him gone right now or the fans will really start to turn Let’s not forget that wiles was the biggest panic signing of them all under, under Cartwright. Utter guff
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Post by thomo on Oct 1, 2024 22:01:31 GMT 1
Kasumu lacks quality on the ball but his effort couldn't be faulted. Our only midfielder tonight, rest of them not interested in HTFC. You know what - fair play. I was perhaps harsh on him earlier for his sliced cross but let's face it, delivering balls into the box isn't his job. His effort was there. If we could partner him with a ball playing midfielder (Hodge?) so he can just break up play and keep it simple, just maybe he can play a role.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Oct 1, 2024 22:01:39 GMT 1
Tonight was always going to be a tough match but it felt at times like a cup match with one team in a division above the other.
15th in the league - so disappointing. 352 system is not working. To be fair to some of the players, there was effort and some decent shifts. The root cause for me is the system, but whether because of the system or lack of quality/form, there were 4 players who just did not contribute anywhere near enough tonight - Evans, Bojan, Wiles and Sorensen.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Oct 1, 2024 22:01:59 GMT 1
Is Kane injured?
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 1, 2024 22:02:11 GMT 1
Think we need to go 4-5-1 & play with a proper back 4. We might stop up then...
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Post by Stiggy on Oct 1, 2024 22:02:33 GMT 1
Fair play anyone going to watch that dross on Saturday, I’d feel conned watching it for free on the fire stick.
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Post by midge on Oct 1, 2024 22:03:30 GMT 1
Kasumu lacks quality on the ball but his effort couldn't be faulted. Agree. Kasumu energises us - we have no capable ball player for him to give it to. On a few occasions this evening he was forced to run with the ball because he simply had no options. Other positive was Chapman. Looks very calm under pressure. Hodge and Kane (if fit) !? Perhaps alongside Kasumu in a 2 but would need a formation change!
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Post by trailingleg on Oct 1, 2024 22:03:57 GMT 1
BOOOOOOOOO Time to fuck off Cartwright. If Kevin Nagle has a single ounce of ambition and isn't all fart and no shit he will fuck the management team off immediately. If he persists with this shit then he clearly ain't arsed about the club and I can only imagine is after the stadium.[/quote Perhaps HTFC is a tax offfset? KN’s real interest is his hometown club, as per his X posts (and who can blame him)? We are majorly peripheral to where his heart lies. I think after 116 desperate years we have finally been screwed.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 1, 2024 22:03:59 GMT 1
Northampton have lost both their games at home since they dicked Town at home. Walsall, where the collapse started, lost 2 6 at home to Fleetwood. That sums us up I'm afraid.
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Post by SacTown on Oct 1, 2024 22:04:04 GMT 1
What an absolute fucking disgrace that second half performance was. We created absolutely nothing, I genuinely cant recall even a half chance of any note. Should have been about 4 or 5 -0, they missed some absolute sitters. Some of the signings arent just bad signings, they are absolutely criminal. Genuinely was Ladapo actually scouted? Or did Cartwright just throw him a couple of years in desperation because he failed miserably during the summer? The worrying thing is how we are going to get shut of these players, or are we going to have to watch this until they all run out of contract, cus until a lot go, we wont be bringing anyone else in. We could be talking 2 or 3 years now until we can clear out this lot. We are plummetting down the table, FIFTEENTH after 9 games, just let that sink in. We could genuinely be looking at a double relegation because we are spent, performance wise, results wise, transfer wise, running of the club. Nagle needs to get off twitter, get his arse over here and sort this club out, or fuck off and let someone else do it who actually seems to be interested. While he is leaving the football side of things in the hands of Cartwright, there is still a long way further we will sink. I dont think I have ever known as bad a director of football at this club. We arent just signing duds, we are signing players that wouldnt look out of place in the Conference, that look like we havnt even bothered to have them watched by anyone. We all know that Cartwright wont go anywhere though, just watch as manager after manager take the fall for it. You look at all the players Birmingham have signed, they just got the transfers done. Now im not suggesting for a minute we follow suit with spending that amount, but we couldnt even get Taylor over the line. Just pay the fucking money if thats the player you want, or cheap out, sign Ladapo and watch him struggle to score 5 goals all season. Honestly, the amount of money we waste getting the cheap options, it would have been cheaper in the long run to just go for quality in the first place. Did anyone scout Ladapo? The fat chancer told us they’ve been tracking him for ages. Don’t you believe him ?? 🤔
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 1, 2024 22:04:11 GMT 1
Kasumu lacks quality on the ball but his effort couldn't be faulted. Agree. Kasumu energises us - we have no capable ball player for him to give it to. On a few occasions this evening he was forced to run with the ball because he simply had no options. Other positive was Chapman. Looks very calm under pressure. We have but Duff seems to think he's only worth ten minutes off the bench. Hodge should be starting every game and Iorpenda should at least be on the bench.
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Post by shawsie on Oct 1, 2024 22:04:27 GMT 1
There wont be more than 12k there on sat - wiles, evans, kasumu tonite - absolute garbage. Cant pass a ball between them. As for ladapo - if we were monitoring during the summer then cartwright wants shooting. What were we monitoring? Hes worse than jon newby! To be honest the football side of the club is an embarrassment full stop right now. Don't agree with that. He broke up loads of play. He's not great on the ball but for me he was one of our better players on the night. Sorry mate - hes shite.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 1, 2024 22:04:46 GMT 1
Agree. Kasumu energises us - we have no capable ball player for him to give it to. On a few occasions this evening he was forced to run with the ball because he simply had no options. Other positive was Chapman. Looks very calm under pressure. Hodge and Kane (if fit) !? Perhaps alongside Kasumu but would need a formation change! Agree on both counts. Especially Kane, we have not had the chance to see the best of him yet ( I hope)
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Post by pilks123 on Oct 1, 2024 22:05:27 GMT 1
Kasumu worked hard, never been a ball playing midfielder but put a shift in at least. Thought Miller first half was decent, faded when brum brought on a fresh right back with their first change at half time. Chapman did what he had to, couldn't do anything about the goal. Pearson didn't do much wrong.
Nothing else positive to say. People have said previously about not having a plan B, thought that showed a lot tonight. They changed their wingback early and dropped one of paik/iwata deeper to counter the press and pass through. We had nothing after that. Could and should have been 4/5 nil had May not cleared off the line and stansfield found his shooting boots.
Zero desire to fly over from Ireland for another game. I bought into the whole rebirth thing for a while but that flame has well and truly gone out. Expect there to be 10k at the game at the weekend. Another disappointing evening.
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 1, 2024 22:06:08 GMT 1
Barnsley is massive now. Duff needs a win. Somehow we're still only 3 points off 4th place. So however bad it's been the season is well and truly still on. Mathematically maybe but the football being played right now suggests it's the other end of the table that's of more interest to us.
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Post by dxterrier on Oct 1, 2024 22:06:10 GMT 1
Disgusting. The entire clubs riddled with failure, still. Nothings changed, Kevin Nagles taken a Championship club and placed it into League one and we’re currently on a feckless run of results watching a fucking god awful spectacle. We’ve been abysmal in nearly every game, I don’t connect with any of these players, i dont connect with the owner who I thinks a charlatan and I don’t connect with this club anymore. It’s defeat after defeat. Watching that second half was like watching a football being thrown into a fenced off play ground full of 7 year olds, all we did was run about chasing the ball. As for Freddie Ladapo, he looks like he’s won a competition on the back of a box of cereal to be a professional footballer. That signing alone shows me how well this football club is run. Failed to sign the right men so we pretended we were always going to sign this lad. The whole mindset of the football club is terrible, the attitude of the players is terrible and we are being run just as such. We have no soul, no fight, no passion, no flare. Beswick Sports FC. Spot on Ben. failure has become the culture of the club, abject failure and the worst thing is too many players and those inside the club don't look to have the heart and the passion to change it. Something is seriously wrong, because we seem to have players that were decent players, who seem to have been hit by a hex soon after walking through the door!! Prime example Sorensen, looked a hell of a player in his first few games, now looks average at best, another victim of the curse that robs players of most of their ability and afflicts them with complete apathy. To me it all rests at Cartwright's door, surely he has now proved beyond any doubt he is not fit for purpose. With 4 teams going down from this division, we are in trouble. Not sure if its new tactics we need, or an exorcist
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Post by rougeboy31 on Oct 1, 2024 22:06:12 GMT 1
This will be controversial but the only way to get the owner's attention is to not attend games, not buy any merchandise and generally keep your money in your pockets. The owners are here to make a profit and anything in the way of that will cause alarm bells to wring. It's too late as regards season tickets but by not attending and then not buying their goods it will rattle them. As I say it is controversial and defeats the whole object of following a football club but it was the tactic that worked at others. There’s a lot of fanbases who would not stand for this at all. Way the club has been run since we got promoted is a disgrace. Start the Cartwright out chants on Saturday. Get some kind of message across.
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Post by Stiggy on Oct 1, 2024 22:08:02 GMT 1
Don't agree with that. He broke up loads of play. He's not great on the ball but for me he was one of our better players on the night. Sorry mate - hes shite. He did okay, problem is the rest are so shite it makes him look slightly decent.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 1, 2024 22:08:27 GMT 1
What an absolute fucking disgrace that second half performance was. We created absolutely nothing, I genuinely cant recall even a half chance of any note. Should have been about 4 or 5 -0, they missed some absolute sitters. Some of the signings arent just bad signings, they are absolutely criminal. Genuinely was Ladapo actually scouted? Or did Cartwright just throw him a couple of years in desperation because he failed miserably during the summer? The worrying thing is how we are going to get shut of these players, or are we going to have to watch this until they all run out of contract, cus until a lot go, we wont be bringing anyone else in. We could be talking 2 or 3 years now until we can clear out this lot. We are plummetting down the table, FIFTEENTH after 9 games, just let that sink in. We could genuinely be looking at a double relegation because we are spent, performance wise, results wise, transfer wise, running of the club. Nagle needs to get off twitter, get his arse over here and sort this club out, or fuck off and let someone else do it who actually seems to be interested. While he is leaving the football side of things in the hands of Cartwright, there is still a long way further we will sink. I dont think I have ever known as bad a director of football at this club. We arent just signing duds, we are signing players that wouldnt look out of place in the Conference, that look like we havnt even bothered to have them watched by anyone. We all know that Cartwright wont go anywhere though, just watch as manager after manager take the fall for it. You look at all the players Birmingham have signed, they just got the transfers done. Now im not suggesting for a minute we follow suit with spending that amount, but we couldnt even get Taylor over the line. Just pay the fucking money if thats the player you want, or cheap out, sign Ladapo and watch him struggle to score 5 goals all season. Honestly, the amount of money we waste getting the cheap options, it would have been cheaper in the long run to just go for quality in the first place. Doubt he will get 5
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Post by space hardware on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:00 GMT 1
Disgusting. The entire clubs riddled with failure, still. Nothings changed, Kevin Nagles taken a Championship club and placed it into League one and we’re currently on a feckless run of results watching a fucking god awful spectacle. We’ve been abysmal in nearly every game, I don’t connect with any of these players, i dont connect with the owner who I thinks a charlatan and I don’t connect with this club anymore. It’s defeat after defeat. Watching that second half was like watching a football being thrown into a fenced off play ground full of 7 year olds, all we did was run about chasing the ball. As for Freddie Ladapo, he looks like he’s won a competition on the back of a box of cereal to be a professional footballer. That signing alone shows me how well this football club is run. Failed to sign the right men so we pretended we were always going to sign this lad. The whole mindset of the football club is terrible, the attitude of the players is terrible and we are being run just as such. We have no soul, no fight, no passion, no flare. Beswick Sports FC. The scary thing is, there's still a long way to fall under these clowns.
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:24 GMT 1
20 odd % possession, played the game like an FA cup tie….embarrassing
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Post by callum9061 on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:51 GMT 1
Try kasumu hodge and iorpenda in midfield, can't be any worse wiles and Evans are shat
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Post by Metch on Oct 1, 2024 22:10:20 GMT 1
We have no recruitment policy, just panic signings, our scouting system must be non existent. Wiles, Ladapo, Healey, Radulovic, Balker, what have they contributed. I have no confidence in Cartwright and Edwards.
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Post by tockyterrier on Oct 1, 2024 22:10:46 GMT 1
What an absolute fucking disgrace that second half performance was. We created absolutely nothing, I genuinely cant recall even a half chance of any note. Should have been about 4 or 5 -0, they missed some absolute sitters. Some of the signings arent just bad signings, they are absolutely criminal. Genuinely was Ladapo actually scouted? Or did Cartwright just throw him a couple of years in desperation because he failed miserably during the summer? The worrying thing is how we are going to get shut of these players, or are we going to have to watch this until they all run out of contract, cus until a lot go, we wont be bringing anyone else in. We could be talking 2 or 3 years now until we can clear out this lot. We are plummetting down the table, FIFTEENTH after 9 games, just let that sink in. We could genuinely be looking at a double relegation because we are spent, performance wise, results wise, transfer wise, running of the club. Nagle needs to get off twitter, get his arse over here and sort this club out, or fuck off and let someone else do it who actually seems to be interested. While he is leaving the football side of things in the hands of Cartwright, there is still a long way further we will sink. I dont think I have ever known as bad a director of football at this club. We arent just signing duds, we are signing players that wouldnt look out of place in the Conference, that look like we havnt even bothered to have them watched by anyone. We all know that Cartwright wont go anywhere though, just watch as manager after manager take the fall for it. You look at all the players Birmingham have signed, they just got the transfers done. Now im not suggesting for a minute we follow suit with spending that amount, but we couldnt even get Taylor over the line. Just pay the fucking money if thats the player you want, or cheap out, sign Ladapo and watch him struggle to score 5 goals all season. Honestly, the amount of money we waste getting the cheap options, it would have been cheaper in the long run to just go for quality in the first place. Just on Taylor. That was nothing to do with us not paying, it was Luton that failed to get their replacement in, so pulled the plug on the deal.
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Post by shawsie on Oct 1, 2024 22:10:59 GMT 1
He did okay, problem is the rest are so shite it makes him look slightly decent. Agree totally - hes just no good imho. He never plays more than 4 / 5 games before getting injured and its no good winning the ball if you simply then give it away. Mind you, hes no worse than ben "chris holland mk2" wiles and antony "decent free kick but offers nowt else" evans.
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