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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 19:53:31 GMT 1
Professional performance, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say we literally didnt get out of 1st gear today...Can only beat what's in front of you and all that. Happy for Wiles to be brave enough to take a shot. Pearson has seized his opportunity by the scruff of the neck - I wouldn't be brining Helik back into this defence even with Lees in the twilight of his career. Poor game for Chapman today; would end the experiment now; he's not far from a mistake. Surprised that Oggy and Glennon kept referring to the lack of volume in the stadium; these fans have seen this side lose almost every week for 10 years and dropped to a level we shouldn't be at.. it's hard to get excited about Crawley at home and Burton away. Arrogance it may be however I do expect us to beat 90% of these sides at home and the majority way. To have lost 5 of 13 is a poor showing frankly. We were absymal last season but this side is still levels above 65% of this division As far as the atmosphere goes they compared it to Wrexham on Tuesday ffs. To Wrexham, playing v Town was considered the biggest club that had visited the Racecourse in 20 years and I took that from their mb. (I must admit I raised an eyebrow).Plus they're on a massive upward trajectory, meanwhile Town had shite for years. When we had momentum the JJS was as good an atmosphere as any club in any division.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 26, 2024 19:54:40 GMT 1
Good performance, could have been 3 or 4 - 0, thought that Wardy was onside, fortunately, didn't matter, well done boys - UTT. Duff said similar about the scoreline. They had a couple of good chances so not sure why we're ignoring those in the potential scoreline. Duff loves XG and theirs was 1.08 Vs our 0.58. I'm actually surprised at how many think that was a good performance. We did enough but had less possession at home to Exeter and half their XG. That doesn't really support the view of it being a good performance
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 26, 2024 20:06:12 GMT 1
Solid, workmanlike performance without looking brilliant. Clean sheet and a comfortable enough win that keeps us well in the promotion chase. The Wiles goal was nearly a carbon copy of the Kasumu one against Barnsley the other week. In that it should have been saved? In that the goal was nearly identical.
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Post by Jimuano on Oct 26, 2024 20:11:17 GMT 1
DATM:
We win one week and the standard in the league is shit and we're going up
Vs
We lose the next and all of our players are shit and we've no chance of going up.
And repeat. 🤣
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 20:14:13 GMT 1
In that it should have been saved? In that the goal was nearly identical. Both should have been saved though.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 26, 2024 20:27:18 GMT 1
In that the goal was nearly identical. Both should have been saved though. Yeah, gutted.
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Post by trotsky on Oct 26, 2024 20:35:19 GMT 1
Good performance, could have been 3 or 4 - 0, thought that Wardy was onside, fortunately, didn't matter, well done boys - UTT. Duff said similar about the scoreline. They had a couple of good chances so not sure why we're ignoring those in the potential scoreline. Duff loves XG and theirs was 1.08 Vs our 0.58. I'm actually surprised at how many think that was a good performance. We did enough but had less possession at home to Exeter and half their XG. That doesn't really support the view of it being a good performance
That could be because xg and possession stats are complete and utter meaningless bollocks?
I've no idea how they work out the 'xg' and I'm not in the least bit interested. But if the side that scored four goals, even if two are dissallowed, one probably unfairly, is rated as having less than half the expected goals of the side that scored none and never really looked like scoring, then I reckon the xg haters can pretty much rest their case.
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Post by tockyterrier on Oct 26, 2024 20:35:34 GMT 1
I didn't forget it, I must have missed it or it was after I posted. As I said I am not going off just today's game. Be honest do you think he is good on crosses ? It's his weakness. He will get better with them. I hope. He's certainly not as weak as Smithies was at that stage of his career. He's better at punching them clear, a lot more calm and assured even if he does make a mistake. Not a total coincidence that we've improved defensively since he came in to the side.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 26, 2024 20:42:28 GMT 1
Duff said similar about the scoreline. They had a couple of good chances so not sure why we're ignoring those in the potential scoreline. Duff loves XG and theirs was 1.08 Vs our 0.58. I'm actually surprised at how many think that was a good performance. We did enough but had less possession at home to Exeter and half their XG. That doesn't really support the view of it being a good performance
That could be because xg and possession stats are complete and utter meaningless bollocks?
I've no idea how they work out the 'xg' and I'm not in the least bit interested. But if the side that scored four goals, even if two are dissallowed, one probably unfairly, is rated as having less than half the expected goals of the side that scored none and never really looked like scoring, then I reckon the xg haters can pretty much rest their case.
Well you can't score when you're offside so they don't count towards XG. Chapman made a good save right at the start of the second half and they missed a sitter mid way through the second half when their lad put it over the bar. We scored from a corner which is something like a 1 in 25 chance and from long distance which the keeper would normally be expected to save. I'm not saying we were terrible but I think we can play far better. 7 shots at home to Exeter isn't great
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Post by rab030 on Oct 26, 2024 20:43:16 GMT 1
Prediction - we score inside first 20 mins. Comfortable 3-0 win. Wiles, Ward and Pearson Are we sure that Ward’s goal was offside??
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 20:44:22 GMT 1
Both should have been saved though. Yeah, gutted. Yeah me too.
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Post by trotsky on Oct 26, 2024 20:50:08 GMT 1
That could be because xg and possession stats are complete and utter meaningless bollocks?
I've no idea how they work out the 'xg' and I'm not in the least bit interested. But if the side that scored four goals, even if two are dissallowed, one probably unfairly, is rated as having less than half the expected goals of the side that scored none and never really looked like scoring, then I reckon the xg haters can pretty much rest their case.
Well you can't score when you're offside so they don't count towards XG. Chapman made a good save right at the start of the second half and they missed a sitter mid way through the second half when their lad put it over the bar. We scored from a corner which is something like a 1 in 25 chance and from long distance which the keeper would normally be expected to save. I'm not saying we were terrible but I think we can play far better. 7 shots at home to Exeter isn't great
So if you actually put the ball into the back of net, it doesn't count but if you don't put the ball into the back of the net, it does count. The world's gone 'kin mad
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Post by rphyorks on Oct 26, 2024 20:51:47 GMT 1
2 minutes of Highlights for now, with no replays, so you'll just have to watch the goals twice.enjoy.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2024 20:53:48 GMT 1
Well you can't score when you're offside so they don't count towards XG. Chapman made a good save right at the start of the second half and they missed a sitter mid way through the second half when their lad put it over the bar. We scored from a corner which is something like a 1 in 25 chance and from long distance which the keeper would normally be expected to save. I'm not saying we were terrible but I think we can play far better. 7 shots at home to Exeter isn't great
So if you actually put the ball into the back of net, it doesn't count but if you don't put the ball into the back of the net, it does count. The world's gone 'kin mad It's taken XG for you to reach that conclusion?
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Post by isitjustme on Oct 26, 2024 20:55:55 GMT 1
Easy win without really getting out of 1st gear, it makes me think "what may happen when everyones fit". As you would asume , when Helik,Balker,Nicholls,Koroma and Sorenson are all fit they start. That isn't even mentioning Hodge and yet we win today at a canter without even as i say going out of 1st gear. This league is poor and the club have to understand the oppotunity that is in front of them, to get back to the champ at the first time of asking. January could be key and bringing the right finishes to the season in, will be very important. Agree to a point......But I'm yet to be convinced we can actually get out of first gear. However, that might be just about enough at a a stretch.....
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Post by callum9061 on Oct 26, 2024 21:01:59 GMT 1
8 pages for a match thread must be a record low
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 26, 2024 21:02:52 GMT 1
Thought that was a good performance today against one of the better teams we’ve faced. Solid performances from all of the team and particularly , Lonwijk, Pearson & Wiles. They were all good though. Some promising signs that we are better equipped than all but Birmingham this season. The only thing stopping us getting that second place will be mentality, we need to really want it.
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Post by atowninessex on Oct 26, 2024 21:08:14 GMT 1
solid performance but not brilliant , no idea how wiles gets man of the match - nice goal but sorry what else did he bring to the game, my biggest gripe is that the 2 players who have the most touches must be lees and pearson and they will not make many if any killer passes - but we are at least starting to look more solid
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 26, 2024 21:11:28 GMT 1
Kasumu covers a huge amount of ground in a game. He’s really made a difference to our midfield.
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 26, 2024 21:14:09 GMT 1
DATM: We win one week and the standard in the league is shit and we're going up Vs We lose the next and all of our players are shit and we've no chance of going up. And repeat. 🤣 Promotion is simple consistency or and repeat.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 26, 2024 21:22:19 GMT 1
solid performance but not brilliant , no idea how wiles gets man of the match - nice goal but sorry what else did he bring to the game, my biggest gripe is that the 2 players who have the most touches must be lees and pearson and they will not make many if any killer passes - but we are at least starting to look more solid Wiles corners were superb, we scored from one.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 26, 2024 21:24:22 GMT 1
Nearly 9.30PM and only 8 pages.
We obviously won then… 😂
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 26, 2024 21:25:37 GMT 1
I was skeptical about Virgil Van Lonwijk to start with, but the lad is getting better game by game. Looking like a solid loan signing now.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 26, 2024 21:27:17 GMT 1
Kasumu covers a huge amount of ground in a game. He’s really made a difference to our midfield. He'll be getting my player of the month vote.
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Post by dezzly on Oct 26, 2024 21:35:46 GMT 1
Kasumu covers a huge amount of ground in a game. He’s really made a difference to our midfield. A well deserved rest for him next Friday for certain.Back for Crawley!
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Post by mids on Oct 26, 2024 21:41:23 GMT 1
The atmosphere was very quiet today. Don't know who's to blame. But it was definitely quiet. The whole stadium needs to take responsibility...we can't rely on the designated singing section behind the goal to be the chief cheerleader as it's evident that's too much responsibility.
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Post by dezzly on Oct 26, 2024 21:43:06 GMT 1
solid performance but not brilliant , no idea how wiles gets man of the match - nice goal but sorry what else did he bring to the game, my biggest gripe is that the 2 players who have the most touches must be lees and pearson and they will not make many if any killer passes - but we are at least starting to look more solid I think today they sat very deep.No space..again.we’ve been there before this season and looked poor.Today without been fluent or exciting we were very competent with some nice bits of play sprinkled in.The ward offside goal was very nice. Games like today wiles and the likes who are clearly trying to be disciplined staying high even when in no space and with centre halves who can’t find them end up looking at times none existent!! Wiles probably gets mom because nobody was really stand out and he had a goal and an assist! Unfortunately at home I feel like we will see plenty games like this season at home where teams come and sit deep in shape. Luckily Exeter are supposedly very good defensively,others may not be. Ideally we have Sorensen back Pearson central and Spencer back at centre back to have two players carrying the ball out from centre back and better on the ball…But we have limited options and tbh lees and Pearson have performed very well recently!
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Oct 26, 2024 21:48:38 GMT 1
That could be because xg and possession stats are complete and utter meaningless bollocks? I've no idea how they work out the 'xg' and I'm not in the least bit interested. But if the side that scored four goals, even if two are dissallowed, one probably unfairly, is rated as having less than half the expected goals of the side that scored none and never really looked like scoring, then I reckon the xg haters can pretty much rest their case.
Well you can't score when you're offside so they don't count towards XG. Chapman made a good save right at the start of the second half and they missed a sitter mid way through the second half when their lad put it over the bar. We scored from a corner which is something like a 1 in 25 chance and from long distance which the keeper would normally be expected to save. I'm not saying we were terrible but I think we can play far better. 7 shots at home to Exeter isn't great We didn’t have to play better though. It was a very comfortable 2-0 win. If we hadn’t scored from the corner or a long range shot then I’d like to think we would have scored from other opportunities. Winning is a habit and it’s a good thing we are getting used to it. Pearson is one of the big differences for me. We look a lot better at the back and he is a threat in their box. I’d be picking him over Helik at the moment.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 26, 2024 21:49:08 GMT 1
The atmosphere was very quiet today. Don't know who's to blame. But it was definitely quiet. The whole stadium needs to take responsibility...we can't rely on the designated singing section behind the goal to be the chief cheerleader as it's evident that's too much responsibility. Disagree, I thought the atmosphere was good. Thought the CSL did their bit to get it going second half as well.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 26, 2024 21:51:30 GMT 1
solid performance but not brilliant , no idea how wiles gets man of the match - nice goal but sorry what else did he bring to the game, my biggest gripe is that the 2 players who have the most touches must be lees and pearson and they will not make many if any killer passes - but we are at least starting to look more solid I think today they sat very deep.No space..again.we’ve been there before this season and looked poor.Today without been fluent or exciting we were very competent with some nice bits of play sprinkled in.The ward offside goal was very nice. Games like today wiles and the likes who are clearly trying to be disciplined staying high even when in no space and with centre halves who can’t find them end up looking at times none existent!! Wiles probably gets mom because nobody was really stand out and he had a goal and an assist! Unfortunately at home I feel like we will see plenty games like this season at home where teams come and sit deep in shape. Luckily Exeter are supposedly very good defensively,others may not be. Ideally we have Sorensen back Pearson central and Spencer back at centre back to have two players carrying the ball out from centre back and better on the ball…But we have limited options and tbh lees and Pearson have performed very well recently! Not sure I’m understanding this, who sat deep, our defence? They spent most of their time on the half way line, we weren’t deep today at all, all three of our defenders were walking it over half way consistently? To be fair to Exeter they were really trying to push us back too? They weren’t deep apart from when we were on top??
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