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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:14:31 GMT 1
Does it matter who they vote for? Is anyone going to stop supporting town because the chairman may vote Tory?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 19, 2015 23:17:10 GMT 1
I don't believe the Scottish situation is a Q of Milliband losing them seats, it's about the SNP gaining them on the back of their 'almost got there' moment last yr. Imagine if we were to have similar independence votes up here and other areas to free us from the shackles of Westminster and the South East - do you think we'd vote to remain under those shackles or would we try and forge our own path? If Labour had a strong leader with a clear direction and not one who makes policies up as he goes along then I think the SNP support would be much less than it is. There was a vote for regional assemblies in the North East a few years ago and it was blown out of the water. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:18:49 GMT 1
It does seem an odd prejudice when more people in the country vote Tory than any other party. It's just a shame the BBC, has to funded by all even though it's a left wing Guardian mouthpiece.
If you don't understand, Google which paper the BBC spend 90% of its job recruitment in.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Mar 19, 2015 23:22:40 GMT 1
Green is the only left of centre party going these days, the only one that hasn't been completely cuckolded by big business. That's why I joined a few months ago. Thatcher's greatest victory was the creation of Tony Blair and 'The Third Way (ie Diet Tory).
Milliband has far more substance than Cameron will ever have but he's a complete geek so the right wing press have slaughtered him. He also regularly shreds 'Call Me Dave' in PMQs but this is never reported by the Tory dominated media.
Anyone who thinks Cameron's cabal have got Britain 'back on its feet' is politically illiterate. The economy was growing when they came into power, 2 years after the biggest banking crisis in human history and despite Gideon Osbourne talking up us 'doing a Greece' for political reasons. Then they stopped capital investment and slashed spending and we entered a deep recession. Cutting spending in a recession for ideological reasons is morally repugnant. Hundreds of thousands of young people have spent the last 7 years in an absolutely vicious jobs market dominated by zero hour contracts and workfare and consequently have no skills and a bleak future. I was made redundant in 2011 and it took me nearly 3 years to get back on my feet.
Saying that you vote Tory because Labour are nearly as bad defies logic. Why not vote for a party that will actually try and change things rather than business as usual? Not many options granted but there are some (and UKIP certainly isn't one of them).
To go back to the original point, very very poor form from Hoyle and Booth to get involved in electioneering for anyone, especially the Tories.
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Post by netterriers4 on Mar 19, 2015 23:24:10 GMT 1
I'l not vote Tory but on that point I agree with you. If Labour had have voted his brother David as leader when they had the chance then they'd probably be looking at a sizeable majority now, but instead there stuck with probably their most unpopular leader since Michael Foot and the prospect of losing virtually all their seats up here in Scotland to the bloody SNP. Yeah Labour appointing Ed Milliband was political suicide... He has an odd voice... With his future in the hands of such an unsophisticated electorate that will be enough to ensure he never gets the keys to number 10 He's a union stooge, that's why he got in over his brother. Add to that his mistake in keeping Balls in situ it all leads to them having zero chance of a majority at the election. Millibland is inoffensive. Balls makes me want to vomit the duplicitous arse. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 19, 2015 23:25:25 GMT 1
It does seem an odd prejudice when more people in the country vote Tory than any other party. It's just a shame the BBC, has to funded by all even though it's a left wing Guardian mouthpiece. If you don't understand, Google which paper the BBC spend 90% of its job recruitment in. I knew you reminded me of someone  "After the show, ( the nationwide episode when that brave woman confronted thatch about the belgrano sinking) Thatcher's husband Denis lashed out at the producer of the show in the entertainment suite, saying that his wife had been "stitched up by bloody BBC poofs and Trots." |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 19, 2015 23:25:25 GMT 1
So going back to the original question. Have Boothy and Hoyle told Town fans to vote Tory or have they just supported a friend and perhaps someone they believe in?
People are allowed a life and an opinion and outside of Huddersfield Town FC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:25:51 GMT 1
I'l not vote Tory but on that point I agree with you. If Labour had have voted his brother David as leader when they had the chance then they'd probably be looking at a sizeable majority now, but instead there stuck with probably their most unpopular leader since Michael Foot and the prospect of losing virtually all their seats up here in Scotland to the bloody SNP. Yeah Labour appointing Ed Milliband was political suicide... He has an odd voice... With his future in the hands of such an unsophisticated electorate that will be enough to ensure he never gets the keys to number 10 The Labour brand is clearly stronger than he is - he drags it down, it pulls him up. The converse is true with Cameron. Someone less odd in charge, and Labour would be pissing 38% and well on the way to majority with or without the Scottish seats. Not that politics is best served by the oligarchy of the independently wealthy, privately educated upper-middles. But as we've said in these threads before, the money is crap (comparatively.) If you're a high achiever from a working class background, far better to go be a trader or sit on the board of Glaxo. Why get paid a middling salary to be universally despised? I wouldn't do it for £200k a year. The three party leader at the minute aren't worth less than £5m. Farage is pretty skint because he was a shit commodities man. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:30:47 GMT 1
So going back to the original question. Have Boothy and Hoyle told Town fans to vote Tory or have they just supported a friend and perhaps someone they believe in? People are allowed a life and an opinion and outside of Huddersfield Town FC. A very valid point and my guess is that Boothy may have written little more than a character reference for McCartney. Hardly a criminal act for an MP who champions HTAFC, the Foundation, and the town itself regularly, he has even the brought up the name of Huddersfield Town in parliament before now. Anyway, we play in Blue and White so we clearly are on the right side of the political fence. ;) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:33:02 GMT 1
I'd be amazed if the club have actively aligned themselves to a political party... amazed! They shouldn't be aligning themselves to any but letting Boothy write some spiel for a Tory MP is a right own goal given the 'working classness' of the town and its fanbase.
To be fair whilst he toes the party line on national and policy led topics, Jason McCartney seems to do exactly what you'd want of a local MP, acting almost as an apolitical community builder, getting involved positively with whatever the people he represents want him to, irrespective of whether they voted for him and his party or not.
Hey, and unlike most of them, at least he knows what its like to work for a living (and put his life on the line).
Some MPs representing other parties are good people too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:34:04 GMT 1
Was this the photo with Dean by any chance? At a jobs fair. Shocking  |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 19, 2015 23:35:23 GMT 1
So going back to the original question. Have Boothy and Hoyle told Town fans to vote Tory or have they just supported a friend and perhaps someone they believe in? People are allowed a life and an opinion and outside of Huddersfield Town FC. A very valid point and my guess is that Boothy may have written little more than a character reference for McCartney. Hardly a criminal act for an MP who champions HTAFC, the Foundation, and the town itself regularly, he has even the brought up the name of Huddersfield Town in parliament before now. Anyway, we play in Blue and White so we clearly are on the right side of the political fence. Next time I see Barry Sheerman in the village I'll ask him to name check Town in parliament. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Mar 19, 2015 23:37:07 GMT 1
Born and bred Labour but I would not cast a vote. Labour is no longer Labour. Its a sort of 'Tory Lite' with a load of Oxbridge educated millionaires trying to tell the rest of us they know what it is like to be hard up and working class. They then feather their nests even more. Excellent post mate. It's been going on for about twenty years now, and some people still haven't noticed that the labour party, and the Democrat party here have been taken over by f*cking phony left-wing freaks spouting phony lovey lovey shit, 'cos they couldn't get a real job if they tried. DemocratIC party, left wing?!! They would be to the right of the Tories over here! |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 19, 2015 23:37:34 GMT 1
They shouldn't be aligning themselves to any but letting Boothy write some spiel for a Tory MP is a right own goal given the 'working classness' of the town and its fanbase.
To be fair whilst he toes the party line on national and policy led topics, Jason McCartney seems to do exactly what you'd want of a local MP, acting almost as an apolitical community builder, getting involved positively with whatever the people he represents want him to, irrespective of whether they voted for him and his party or not.
Hey, and unlike most of them, at least he knows what its like to work for a living (and put his life on the line).
Some MPs representing other parties are good people too.
This isn't about whether you like the MP or not... It's about our club appearing in his election blurb... I haven't seen it so it might be bollocks.. But if true it's absolutely scandalous ... Rotten to the core.. And I would be saying exactly the same if it was in support of the Labour Party... HTFC are our club... Hoyle and Booth are merely custodians...putting their name to political blurb in a general election year is outrageous |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:39:10 GMT 1
Would anyone on here really trust Balls & Miliband with the economy, particularly after the last Labour Government totally wrecked it? As for Miliband, he's only a puppet of the Unite Union led by red Len McCluskey, who is really a die hard Communist, just like Miliband's father was.
What we really need is another strong Conservative government in power led by someone similar to Maggie Thatcher, who would stand no nonsense from the EU led by Merkell and her limp French side kick. As for Maggie, she's probably one of the best leaders we've had since Churchill and who can blame her for confronting Scargill, when it was costing us twice as much to produce coal in this country compared to the price we could import for?.
So although I'll be voting Tory, I must admit that there's very little to choose between any of the contenders, but it's just that I'd far more prefer Osbourne to look after the economy than that waffling testicle called Balls, who given the chance would no doubt balls it up again.
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Post by netterriers4 on Mar 19, 2015 23:41:32 GMT 1
A very valid point and my guess is that Boothy may have written little more than a character reference for McCartney. Hardly a criminal act for an MP who champions HTAFC, the Foundation, and the town itself regularly, he has even the brought up the name of Huddersfield Town in parliament before now. Anyway, we play in Blue and White so we clearly are on the right side of the political fence. Next time I see Barry Sheerman in the village I'll ask him to name check Town in parliament. Ask him to reply to emails from constituents after promising to do something for them whilst you're at it will you?? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 19, 2015 23:42:46 GMT 1
Would anyone on here really trust Balls & Miliband with the economy, particularly after the last Labour Government totally wrecked it? As for Miliband, he's only a puppet of the Unite Union led by red Len McCluskey, who is really a die hard Communist, just like Miliband's father was. What we really need is another strong Conservative government in power led by someone similar to Maggie Thatcher, who would stand no nonsense from the EU led by Merkell and her limp French side kick. As for Maggie, she's probably one of the best leaders we've had since Churchill and who can blame her for confronting Scargill, when it was costing us twice as much to produce coal in this country compared to the price we could import for?. So although I'll be voting Tory, I must admit that there's very little to choose between any of the contenders, but it's just that I'd far more prefer Osbourne to look after the economy than that waffling testicle called Balls, who given the chance would no doubt balls it up again. well seeing as I don't trust anything you say ( Ralph Milliband wasn't a communist ) then I'm going to vote for the opposite of you |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 19, 2015 23:42:48 GMT 1
Don't forget we used to be know as the Scarlet Runners and played our first game in salmon pink. I wonder if that was political?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 19, 2015 23:43:57 GMT 1
Don't forget we used to be know as the Scarlet Runners and played our first game in salmon pink. I wonder if that was political? SNP .. Alex salmon pink |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:46:26 GMT 1
It does seem an odd prejudice when more people in the country vote Tory than any other party. It's just a shame the BBC, has to funded by all even though it's a left wing Guardian mouthpiece. If you don't understand, Google which paper the BBC spend 90% of its job recruitment in. I knew you reminded me of someone "After the show, ( the nationwide episode when that brave woman confronted thatch about the belgrano sinking) Thatcher's husband Denis lashed out at the producer of the show in the entertainment suite, saying that his wife had been "stitched up by bloody BBC poofs and Trots." Yawn... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:48:04 GMT 1
Would anyone on here really trust Balls & Miliband with the economy, particularly after the last Labour Government totally wrecked it? As for Miliband, he's only a puppet of the Unite Union led by red Len McCluskey, who is really a die hard Communist, just like Miliband's father was. What we really need is another strong Conservative government in power led by someone similar to Maggie Thatcher, who would stand no nonsense from the EU led by Merkell and her limp French side kick. As for Maggie, she's probably one of the best leaders we've had since Churchill and who can blame her for confronting Scargill, when it was costing us twice as much to produce coal in this country compared to the price we could import for?. So although I'll be voting Tory, I must admit that there's very little to choose between any of the contenders, but it's just that I'd far more prefer Osbourne to look after the economy than that waffling testicle called Balls, who given the chance would no doubt balls it up again. My shopping bill, train fares, rates etc... are probably double what they would have been had Thatcher not been in power for so long... Be careful what you wish for in being an Island nation, closing all your industry down so everything is imported and then sticking two fingers up at your closest trade allies. Maybe you could trial it? We could build an island on the paddling pond in greenhead park, put you in the middle with some tins of food & some placards saying you hate everyone, fill the pond with alligators and see how you get one when your food runs out? |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Mar 19, 2015 23:48:11 GMT 1
What's the Dunblane cover up, I haven't heard owt . But when it happened the tories were in power. It's a genuine question. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Google is your friend. Dunblaine and D Notice |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 19, 2015 23:49:34 GMT 1
I knew you reminded me of someone "After the show, ( the nationwide episode when that brave woman confronted thatch about the belgrano sinking) Thatcher's husband Denis lashed out at the producer of the show in the entertainment suite, saying that his wife had been "stitched up by bloody BBC poofs and Trots." Yawn... Yawn indeed... I turn on the BBC and it's akin to leafing through an edition of the Morning Star edited by Julian clary .. Poofs and trots .. Seriously mate if you believe the BBC is left wing then you're stupid enough to think town are going down this season .... Oh hang on ... |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 19, 2015 23:50:15 GMT 1
We'll keep the red flag flying here....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 23:54:41 GMT 1
Would anyone on here really trust Balls & Miliband with the economy, particularly after the last Labour Government totally wrecked it? As for Miliband, he's only a puppet of the Unite Union led by red Len McCluskey, who is really a die hard Communist, just like Miliband's father was. What we really need is another strong Conservative government in power led by someone similar to Maggie Thatcher, who would stand no nonsense from the EU led by Merkell and her limp French side kick. As for Maggie, she's probably one of the best leaders we've had since Churchill and who can blame her for confronting Scargill, when it was costing us twice as much to produce coal in this country compared to the price we could import for?. So although I'll be voting Tory, I must admit that there's very little to choose between any of the contenders, but it's just that I'd far more prefer Osbourne to look after the economy than that waffling testicle called Balls, who given the chance would no doubt balls it up again. My shopping bill, train fares, rates etc... are probably double what they would have been had Thatcher not been in power for so long... Be careful what you wish for in being an Island nation, closing all your industry down so everything is imported and then sticking two fingers up at your closest trade allies. Maybe you could trial it? We could build an island on the paddling pond in greenhead park, put you in the middle with some tins of food & some placards saying you hate everyone, fill the pond with alligators and see how you get one when your food runs out? It's funny to me that people are still blaming Thatcher. I guess it's no different than people blaming Bush for everything over here. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 0:05:28 GMT 1
Why is it strange that Thatcher still gets the blame? She set many things in motion when in office that still have far reaching effects today & no doubt many of these will continue into the future. Folk are right when they say she transformed the UK but it's then divided opinion on whether it was for better or worse...
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Post by philincalifornia on Mar 20, 2015 0:05:57 GMT 1
Excellent post mate. It's been going on for about twenty years now, and some people still haven't noticed that the labour party, and the Democrat party here have been taken over by f*cking phony left-wing freaks spouting phony lovey lovey shit, 'cos they couldn't get a real job if they tried. DemocratIC party, left wing?!! They would be to the right of the Tories over here! True, but if you believed their lies, you'd think they were socialists ... and phony socialism does have the advantage of being able to use public money to capitalize their capitalist enterprises so they can subsidise their worthlessness. Taxation is big business for useless parasites. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 0:21:34 GMT 1
Chippendale, You're splitting hairs there, OK so Ralph Miliband wasn't a Communist but he was the next best thing - a frigging Marxist.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 20, 2015 0:25:46 GMT 1
Why is it strange that Thatcher still gets the blame? She set many things in motion when in office that still have far reaching effects today & no doubt many of these will continue into the future. Folk are right when they say she transformed the UK but it's then divided opinion on whether it was for better or worse... For the worse of course.... |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 20, 2015 0:26:26 GMT 1
Chippendale, You're splitting hairs there, OK so Ralph Miliband wasn't a Communist but he was the next best thing - a frigging Marxist. Mirf .. Learn to " quote" . Then learn the difference between a communist and a Marxist.. Two totally different things |
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