|
|
Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 5, 2015 9:53:44 GMT 1
After reading 12 pages of this, one thing is for sure! ......we have always been very proud of our away support at town! Awful turn out today! How many were there and were you? Not many to be honest mate, probably about max 700. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 10:00:45 GMT 1
How many were there and were you? Not many to be honest mate, probably about max 700. Couldn't tell from my viewpoint, honestly thought more than 700 though. Over priced and another game tomorrow won't have helped. |
|
|
|
Post by kaykie on Apr 5, 2015 10:04:43 GMT 1
Not many to be honest mate, probably about max 700. Couldn't tell from my viewpoint, honestly thought more than 700 though. Over priced and another game tomorrow won't have helped. Bloke at the turnstyle told me we had sold 900 from our ticket office and he had done 160 ticket sales so far (at 2:45) and his colleague had done round about the same |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 10:17:17 GMT 1
Couldn't tell from my viewpoint, honestly thought more than 700 though. Over priced and another game tomorrow won't have helped. Bloke at the turnstyle told me we had sold 900 from our ticket office and he had done 160 ticket sales so far (at 2:45) and his colleague had done round about the same So in excess of a thousand, which from where I was sat is more like it. Not by any means a great turnout but all things considered not that bad. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 10:34:39 GMT 1
People are getting turned off by Town, The performances the tactics the negative style everything this season really, So people won't make the effort to go to away games when they are losing interest, The club need to act to get people back through the gates otherwise Hoyle is going to have a serious problem. I predicted earlier in the season when the club stated we were progressing and moving forward year on year, This was obvious a load of shite and i even said we would not finish with more points than last year, Looks like i will be right, This club is going backwards and again this season three really poor teams are keeping us safe, We are not safe because we have maintained good performances, Last 7 games 4 defeats and 3 draws is pathetic. I bet Steve Evans at Rotherham can hardly believe they are below us. This club is not progressing and i am fed up of them telling fans it is when it clearly isn't.
|
|
|
|
Post by goodshot (FGS) on Apr 5, 2015 10:40:16 GMT 1
People are getting turned off by Town, The performances the tactics the negative style everything this season really, So people won't make the effort to go to away games when they are losing interest, The club need to act to get people back through the gates otherwise Hoyle is going to have a serious problem. I predicted earlier in the season when the club stated we were progressing and moving forward year on year, This was obvious a load of shite and i even said we would not finish with more points than last year, Looks like i will be right, This club is going backwards and again this season three really poor teams are keeping us safe, We are not safe because we have maintained good performances, Last 7 games 4 defeats and 3 draws is pathetic. I bet Steve Evans at Rotherham can hardly believe they are below us. This club is not progressing and i am fed up of them telling fans it is when it clearly isn't. Yet we were robbed of 6 points v Fulham and 2 at Rotherham. If we were on 53 points everyone would be laughing. Fine margins. Its certainly been a grim season though! |
|
|
|
Post by captainblack on Apr 5, 2015 11:07:29 GMT 1
It was a poor game yesterday both teams lacked any real spark but on a positive note I thought Miller caused Wednesday some
problems when he came on. I hope Miller signs on a permanent contract in the summer .The important thing about yesterday was we
managed to grind out another point.
I can understand some Town fans being disappointed this season but we have improved overall this season .I am confident Powell
will strengthen the team during the summer and hopefully we will improve further next season.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 11:22:19 GMT 1
It was a poor game yesterday both teams lacked any real spark but on a positive note I thought Miller caused Wednesday some problems when he came on. I hope Miller signs on a permanent contract in the summer .The important thing about yesterday was we managed to grind out another point. I can understand some Town fans being disappointed this season but we have improved overall this season . I am confident Powell will strengthen the team during the summer and hopefully we will improve further next season. I am not, Affraid to say that i have lost all faith with Town in the Transfer dealings, For example acting late on vital positioning signings and often going for the cheap option when making a signing, Yes people will say we spent 1.5 million on wells which broke the club fee but that was easily off set by the club and a calculated spend by the massive profit made on the sale of Rhodes a few years earlier. |
|
goodbet
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
Posts: 4,602
|
Post by goodbet on Apr 5, 2015 11:24:44 GMT 1
How did james play
|
|
|
|
Post by kaykie on Apr 5, 2015 11:43:40 GMT 1
Did ok but left exposed because we played 3 centre midfielders in a 442 formation which meant no left midfield |
|
|
|
Post by captainblack on Apr 5, 2015 11:45:13 GMT 1
It was a poor game yesterday both teams lacked any real spark but on a positive note I thought Miller caused Wednesday some problems when he came on. I hope Miller signs on a permanent contract in the summer .The important thing about yesterday was we managed to grind out another point. I can understand some Town fans being disappointed this season but we have improved overall this season . I am confident Powell will strengthen the team during the summer and hopefully we will improve further next season. I am not, Affraid to say that i have lost all faith with Town in the Transfer dealings, For example acting late on vital positioning signings and often going for the cheap option when making a signing, Yes people will say we spent 1.5 million on wells which broke the club fee but that was easily off set by the club and a calculated spend by the massive profit made on the sale of Rhodes a few years earlier. I am not denying Haveit that this has been a very tough season but we have to give Powell time to build "His" team . I honestly do not believe we have the finances to attract the players who are the "finished article" . Imo we have to look at young and improving talent from div 3 and 4. |
|
|
|
Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 5, 2015 12:29:39 GMT 1
Did ok but left exposed because we played 3 centre midfielders in a 442 formation which meant no left midfield We've been playing that formation for months. |
|
|
|
Post by bro600 on Apr 5, 2015 12:29:48 GMT 1
People are getting turned off by Town, The performances the tactics the negative style everything this season really, So people won't make the effort to go to away games when they are losing interest, The club need to act to get people back through the gates otherwise Hoyle is going to have a serious problem. I predicted earlier in the season when the club stated we were progressing and moving forward year on year, This was obvious a load of shite and i even said we would not finish with more points than last year, Looks like i will be right, This club is going backwards and again this season three really poor teams are keeping us safe, We are not safe because we have maintained good performances, Last 7 games 4 defeats and 3 draws is pathetic. I bet Steve Evans at Rotherham can hardly believe they are below us. This club is not progressing and i am fed up of them telling fans it is when it clearly isn't. Turned off by Town or turned off by football in general? Are the recent demonstrations and banners i.e "twenty's plenty" and "enough is enough" indicative of how the ordinary supporter really feels? At 25-30 pounds for Championship football an average supporter must be having to think twice and that's before travel, the kids and a pint or food.. Where is the value for money really? Can the moaners at HTFC really put their hands on their hearts and tell me they've seen much different from half the games of championship football on T.V or anywhere else? Can they even say that half the premiership produce much better entertainment on a regular basis? What do HTFC supporters think Reading, Fulham, Wednesday, Wigan, Blackpool, Millwall, Bolton and even the jokers at Leeds are saying about their football clubs when they produce what DATM posters call shyte football against HTFC and every other week looking at their results and the table? Strategy, statistics, coaching badges, finances and fear is what now rules a game that was once a pleasure to play, watch and be involved in coaching wise. The combination of these factors are ruining the game.. It is a limp lettuce of the game of the 70's and 80's that made it such a big draw for Sky.. I do believe a majority of whingers are now beating up HTFC for this decline in entertainment. I also believe that HTFC would be back in Division one or even stayed in division one if we hadn't joined this spiral of negative shyte we play today.. and i think Simon Grayson, Mark Robins and Chris Powell knew that as well.. Dean Hoyle brought in Chris Powell to achieve 3 objectives 1) To stop the rot and turn the club around.. IMO Achieved.. 2) To avoid relegation and sort out the wheat from the chaff.. IMO Achieved.. 3) To alter the style of the club and deliver entertaining football...IMO Work in progress..Early on in his tenure Powell had the team obviously playing to impress and results between 27th September and 1st November showed this and a bit of confidence before the loss at Derby. Since then is what most would call inconsistency but every now and then you could see an attempt in the change of style..Rotherham away was unfortunate... Watford at home paid off..Then a change of style for Boro away followed by a dogged style to win at Wigan in a must win game.. (Now u can see what a must win game that was) We tried a more positive style against Wolves and got mullered by the scoreline..We tried the same against Fulham and once again the scoreline told a different story.. Powell and Dean Hoyle tried to bring in "the right player" in Le Fondre, we tried to sign someone i can't find out about because it's a possible summer signing so it's not for the want of trying that we haven't signed players. We really do need to give Powell the chance.. First of all to sign the players (Deano has to back the signing of at least 5 IMO), We have to give him the luxury of a pre-season and we have to have the patience for him to gain the faith in playing a positive system and introducing youngsters. Short term, knee jerk and nonsensical tantrums after every failure is not supporting the attempts of the long term strategy of anyone and if you haven't already got the message we really can't afford an alternative. |
|
|
|
Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 5, 2015 12:32:50 GMT 1
I don't know you or anyone else on here. I am however capable of forming an opinion of you from the moronic utter drivel you constantly spout. As for the numbers, work it out, you claim to be a long standing town fan. The fact that he can't work it out speaks volumes and you are right he did used to post with good intent but unfortunately Moaner30 once got a good response from the messageboard and gained a good reputation by being controversial and the rest is history. The message board is now full pf them, budding Katie Hopkins and adrian Durhams who have to keep up a persona just because they get a reaction and their natural style probably wouldn't hack it. The sadness is DATM used to have it's own ambiance at one point and even at the clubs lowest ebbs of administration and possible liquidation and even relegations there used to be support, positiveness and mostly humour. Now it's a free for all, full of wind up merchants, posters with multiple identities, opposing supporters and suicidal supporters who slit their wrists when the opposition get a corner. 6 months ago i'd more or less given up on DATM but it's great to see that more and more people are fighting back and counter acting the negative attention seekers. Old faces who knew what DATM used to be about are fighting for the integrity of the message board and i have to put my weight behind it. Power to their keyboards. I've said it before loads of times and i'll say it again there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism and negativity with a bit of understanding but a lot of the times the criticism is unfair, unbalanced and without any understanding of HTFC and our past. One of the best posts I've seen on here this year. |
|
|
|
Post by Floyds on Apr 5, 2015 12:42:13 GMT 1
It's not just DATM though, is it?
If you go to the games, and talk to the fans, there is a definite sense of apathy / disillusionment with the Club this season.
Our attendances and now our away followings speak for themselves.
I posted previously about the club's need to improve all aspects of the match day experience. From attracting new fans, to improving the catering, to putting some life back into the ground.
We've been drifting on and off the pitch for a while now, and changes need to be made for next season or attendances will fall further.
|
|
|
|
Post by Giggity on Apr 5, 2015 12:46:36 GMT 1
Did ok but left exposed because we played 3 centre midfielders in a 442 formation which meant no left midfield We've been playing that formation for months. Bloody hell. Your radio must be good. |
|
|
|
Post by thomo on Apr 5, 2015 12:56:03 GMT 1
Football in general is turning me off, but town are turning me off too and most of that boils down to the boring poor quality football served up by Powell.
Can't help but feel we're wasting our time giving Powell the summer. Sitting deep and launching the ball forward aimlessly does not show any tactical astuteness on his part. I'm sure we could play a more attacking style of play and accumulate at least the same amount of points as we have in recent seasons under the right manager.
Maybe also blooding some more youngsters would give fans something to be positive about.
I can't see him lasting until Christmas.
This season cannot be classed as progress
|
|
|
|
Post by thomo on Apr 5, 2015 13:19:25 GMT 1
I am not, Affraid to say that i have lost all faith with Town in the Transfer dealings, For example acting late on vital positioning signings and often going for the cheap option when making a signing, Yes people will say we spent 1.5 million on wells which broke the club fee but that was easily off set by the club and a calculated spend by the massive profit made on the sale of Rhodes a few years earlier. I am not denying Haveit that this has been a very tough season but we have to give Powell time to build "His" team . I honestly do not believe we have the finances to attract the players who are the "finished article" . Imo we have to look at young and improving talent from div 3 and 4. I'm not sure we've even got the finances to pick up the better players from leagues 1 and 2. A good player from those divisions can still cost around £1 mil. |
|
|
|
Post by stinkypete on Apr 5, 2015 13:21:02 GMT 1
People are getting turned off by Town, The performances the tactics the negative style everything this season really, So people won't make the effort to go to away games when they are losing interest, The club need to act to get people back through the gates otherwise Hoyle is going to have a serious problem. I predicted earlier in the season when the club stated we were progressing and moving forward year on year, This was obvious a load of shite and i even said we would not finish with more points than last year, Looks like i will be right, This club is going backwards and again this season three really poor teams are keeping us safe, We are not safe because we have maintained good performances, Last 7 games 4 defeats and 3 draws is pathetic. I bet Steve Evans at Rotherham can hardly believe they are below us. This club is not progressing and i am fed up of them telling fans it is when it clearly isn't. Yet we were robbed of 6 points v Fulham and 2 at Rotherham. If we were on 53 points everyone would be laughing. Fine margins. Its certainly been a grim season though! We weren't "robbed" though were we, we lost 2-0 and 3-1. We were robbed at home to Chatlton when the ref failed to give a blatant penalty when Vaughan was fouled, then they went up the other end and scored to make it 1-1. This season needs to end quick before further damage is done as this woeful end to the season will be doing nothing for season ticket sales and attracting potential signings! |
|
|
|
Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 5, 2015 13:22:11 GMT 1
We've been playing that formation for months. Bloody hell. Your radio must be good. We first played that formation against Brentford on Dec 6th which was streamed live, in fact whenever Bunn or Lolley is not in the lineup we usually play that way. Robinson's ability down the left allowed us to do that, it looks like Powell is hoping James has the ability to do the same. If you took your Powell blinkers off you may see what is happening on the pitch. |
|
|
|
Post by Floyds on Apr 5, 2015 13:32:31 GMT 1
Robbed away at Fulham is an interesting claim.
Unless you mean robbed by our own defensive short comings?
|
|
|
|
Post by otium (EPBS) on Apr 5, 2015 14:55:47 GMT 1
Er, yeh...seeing as we have been outplayed in all but a handful of games for almost 3 seasons. Fortunately there are worse teams than us each year, just. I will never listen to the happy-clappers on here because by simply being "fanatics" their view is skewed, blinkered and overly optimistic.Continual underachievement (over 40 years), the continual signing and overpayment of average players (35 years), poor transfer market negotiation both in purchasing and selling. Negative tactics, boring, useless managers and a club whose profile is now so low fans are leaving in droves. No good players, no coveted players, little skill, less entertainment. An academy that seems to be producing players who cant make the step up, a ground and atmosphere that is stultifying. This is not a recent trend..this goes on and on and on. Have we won a derby? Have we battered anybody? Any cup runs? Any new players breaking through and giving hope (Bunn perhaps?). No, its not we on here who are negative for we don't give up....its the bloody club and its completely mercenary players. Its contracts, Audis and Nandos...club history, pride and love of the Town are as worthless as a bank-note on the Moon. Not too long back when we beat a pitiful Millwall side folk on here were writhing in ecstasy....how hollow it all rang. Since that AMAZING result we have one win in 11...just about what we have deserved. I dont expect us to win more than 30% of games, i dont expect us to win trophies, i dont even expect us to ever get to the Prem but i expect loyalty, fight, entertainment and some occasional skill and the odd glorious victory. 99.9% of people on the planet would bleed buckets for 5 grand a week and a footballers lifestyle. A shameful state of affairs. However, everyone should pay attention to the opinions of a man who never goes... Thats just silly, as previously posted i have seen over a 1000 games. The promo season i had a season ticket. I might have only seen 20 matches the last two seasons but that was about 20 too many! Its a bit difficult to go when you live abroad and i must admit that after yesterdays snore-fest its hardly pulling me. The current state of affairs remains pitiful...despite your personal jibe. |
|
|
|
Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 5, 2015 15:40:10 GMT 1
run with the ball and run after your mate when he has the ball and try and help?  what is so difficult or hard to implement in that??? ill be accused of playing on 'football manager' again and that powell is trying his best to make it happen etc etc etc.. watching him yesterday , its clear he isn't, there is little or nothing from the touchline, we go in at half time and come out exactly the same. he said afterwards 'it was important that we got something back quickly after they scored' what the fuck is that statement about??? they scored 7/8 minutes from the end?? of course we had to get something back quickly??? we got the ball forward quickly and tried to support it better and hey fucking presto we score? ?? hoof it is actually a sensible option on a shit pitch, it looks really awful if you don't support the long ball that's all.. both teams and managers should be a wee bit ashamed of turning that out as 'championship football' at 30 quid a pop.. if its all about the 'result' neither team will get too many playing anyone who isn't intending to play the same way as they are.. said before they might as well have shaken hands beforehand and taken a point apiece.. they didn't care too much and we were extremely happy to go along with it.. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 16:04:55 GMT 1
run with the ball and run after your mate when he has the ball and try and help? what is so difficult or hard to implement in that??? ill be accused of playing on 'football manager' again and that powell is trying his best to make it happen etc etc etc.. watching him yesterday , its clear he isn't, there is little or nothing from the touchline, we go in at half time and come out exactly the same. he said afterwards 'it was important that we got something back quickly after they scored' what the fuck is that statement about??? they scored 7/8 minutes from the end?? of course we had to get something back quickly??? we got the ball forward quickly and tried to support it better and hey fucking presto we score? ?? hoof it is actually a sensible option on a shit pitch, it looks really awful if you don't support the long ball that's all.. both teams and managers should be a wee bit ashamed of turning that out as 'championship football' at 30 quid a pop.. if its all about the 'result' neither team will get too many playing anyone who isn't intending to play the same way as they are.. said before they might as well have shaken hands beforehand and taken a point apiece.. they didn't care too much and we were extremely happy to go along with it.. After match interview. LINK |
|
|
|
Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 5, 2015 16:36:10 GMT 1
We've been playing that formation for months. Bloody hell. Your radio must be good. One can easily determine the formation from the XI selected something you've failed to do on multiple occasions. When in the UK at least I go to the games.... you post on an awful lot of match threads during the games and asked if there was a stream during the L666s home game  |
|
|
|
Post by kaykie on Apr 5, 2015 16:46:48 GMT 1
Did ok but left exposed because we played 3 centre midfielders in a 442 formation which meant no left midfield We've been playing that formation for months. I know and how many times has the left back been exposed,he plays it to accomodate players |
|
|
|
Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 5, 2015 17:02:00 GMT 1
one cannot easily determine the town formation once a lot of the games start.. unless 7-1-2 like yesterday is a formation??
we never have a lack of 'defending' players as the ball hits the back of our net..
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 17:05:59 GMT 1
Watching the extended highlights, the new lad looked like he struggled a bit
Still think we'd have been better off giving one of our young lads a chance
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 17:36:54 GMT 1
Watching the extended highlights, the new lad looked like he struggled a bit Still think we'd have been better off giving one of our young lads a chance Would you have 'sacked off' one of our young lads as sharpish, based on video highlights of one game? |
|
rocky
Andy Booth Terrier
Posts: 3,101
|
Post by rocky on Apr 5, 2015 17:50:30 GMT 1
Football in general is turning me off, but town are turning me off too and most of that boils down to the boring poor quality football served up by Powell. Can't help but feel we're wasting our time giving Powell the summer. Sitting deep and launching the ball forward aimlessly does not show any tactical astuteness on his part. I'm sure we could play a more attacking style of play and accumulate at least the same amount of points as we have in recent seasons under the right manager. Maybe also blooding some more youngsters would give fans something to be positive about. I can't see him lasting until Christmas. This season cannot be classed as progress Depends on how you define it & more importantly, at what point in the season. 7 games ago after we beat Reading to go 12th, no one would have suggested we weren't making progress. Now, after this bad run, people are rushing around saying there's been no progress. If (& I know it's a big if), we had a reasonable end to the season & won a few more games, then it would be reasonable to say that progress had being made. As it is, 9 points (effectively 10) clear of 3rd bottom with 6 games to go could be seen as a measure of progress, couldn't it? |
|
