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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 12:02:32 GMT 1
I don't think Forest lost a game in the middle of their unbeaten run either!!!
Most Footy fans either know it is a false record or wrongly believe that we were promoted in the play offs during the record unbeaten run.
We were talking with Fulham fans at their spot earlier this season about LC and his sacking, When they were told " No mate we lost in the final that year " they did reply with " that's not an unbeaten run " and I agree with em.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Feb 15, 2016 12:03:55 GMT 1
Am I allowed an opinion on LC's tenure as I didn't emigrate until long after his sacking  I only listened to Oggy when I couldn't make the away trips, thankfully there were more away trips than commentaries |
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Post by niggled on Feb 15, 2016 12:42:50 GMT 1
When forest had draws in their run it was seen as good as it was only two points for a win.
We drew games,( and I believe set out to draw , ) when it was three points for a win.
Makes a difference.
Good luck to lee Clark in his new job
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2016 12:45:31 GMT 1
I don't think Forest lost a game in the middle of their unbeaten run either!!! I'm sure they lost a cup game, which is how the FL classify the playoffs, an end of season cup competition with the winners (who hold aloft a trophy for all to see) gaining the final promotion spot to the higher division. Surely you aren't going to try the old but it's a league game nonsense are you?  You mean the crazy notion that a game that effects your league placing is a league game?  |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Feb 15, 2016 13:21:22 GMT 1
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Post by keithAM11532 on Feb 15, 2016 15:45:33 GMT 1
How is it that all some of the football experts on here cannot see the significance of going unbeaten for 43 games and instead focus on some poor results that suit their agenda. What was the significance of that run, then? If memory serves, it won us nothing and we were exactly where we started when it finished. The significance being is that it got us to the play offs. It also brought a lot of joy to people not being beaten for so long. Look what happens on here when we get a defeat. Don't misunderstand me I was hugely disappointed as much as the next man when we lost those two play offs. But Clark got us there, Grayson pitched up for a few games and got lucky with the penalties. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 16:09:35 GMT 1
I don't think Forest lost a game in the middle of their unbeaten run either!!! So they won the FA cup then? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2016 16:10:40 GMT 1
I don't think Forest lost a game in the middle of their unbeaten run either!!! So they won the FA cup then? Not unless they got 3 points for each round they went through. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 16:12:06 GMT 1
So they won the FA cup then? Not unless they got 3 points for each round they went through. How many points did we drop against Posh? |
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Post by philincalifornia on Feb 15, 2016 16:12:29 GMT 1
I forgot about the non weirdo demographic of the Lee Clark appreciation society.. sometimes referred to as "expats " Two flaws in your hypothesis Ted. First me, not bitter at all, but also not particularly impressed. …… and then, of course, there's Nick, who's never been out of West Yorkshire. |
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Post by lankystreak on Feb 15, 2016 16:14:09 GMT 1
….. but it wasn't his job description was it? Dean didn't say "Hey Lee, go out and get us an unbeaten run", I'm sure. I'm even more sure that he said "The job Lee, is to get us promotion". He didn't, so he got fired. We started on this topic last Wednesday - did we get distracted by that waitress or summat, 'cos I can't remember finishing it? But the request would mean to get as many points as possible. In term of points per game achieved (using 3 points for a win as a standard) 2010/11 was our 4th best season in the past 90, since our last first division champion season in 1925/26. It's just a shame that we came up against 2 better teams that season in Southampton and Brighton. I can see what you're saying points wise but I think the real problem was that there were clearly 3 better teams than us that season. The Peterborough side we came up against were far better than us in my opinion as was proved on the day. They had been assembled for a fraction of the fees and wages that our team had been. I can accept we were unfortunate to come up against very strong Brighton and Southampton teams that were way too strong for League 1, I can't accept that Clark wasn't to blame for failing to get us past Peterborough. In all 3 games against us that season they were clearly the better team. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2016 16:16:37 GMT 1
Not unless they got 3 points for each round they went through. How many points did we drop against Posh? You mean the LEAGUE 1 Play off game? No points on offer for that league 1 game. Just the chance to move up a division in the league.  |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 15, 2016 16:18:23 GMT 1
Nick, your infatuation with Lee Clark and quarterly change of username, not to mention your seemingly on purpose spelling errors is fucking boring. Happy V Day Huddersfiel I bet you do !! |
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Post by wtd on Feb 15, 2016 16:22:48 GMT 1
What was the significance of that run, then? If memory serves, it won us nothing and we were exactly where we started when it finished. It also brought a lot of joy to people not being beaten for so long. Look what happens on here when we get a defeat. Don't misunderstand me I was hugely disappointed as much as the next man when we lost those two play offs. But Clark got us there, Grayson pitched up for a few games and got lucky with the penalties. And if we'd not been happy to settle for so many draws to maintain the silly run, who knows, we might have got a few more wins that would have given us automatic. But all gone now, water under the bridge, and I'd settle for moving on and not having Nick informing us of Clark's whereabouts on a daily basis. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Feb 15, 2016 16:26:43 GMT 1
Clark is reunited with Kallum Higginbotham* now, so I'm sure that they'll both be very happy.
* 4 appearances for Town, but loaned out all over the shop. Struggled for goals wherever he's been.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 16:27:35 GMT 1
How many points did we drop against Posh? You mean the LEAGUE 1 Play off game? No points on offer for that league 1 game. Just the chance to move up a division in the league. And so it goes on and on and on.... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2016 16:30:39 GMT 1
You mean the LEAGUE 1 Play off game? No points on offer for that league 1 game. Just the chance to move up a division in the league. And so it goes on and on and on.... It mirrors our unbeaten run. It goes on and on and on... then stops... then goes on and on... |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 15, 2016 17:20:05 GMT 1
Jamie clarky is having a Party !!!
New job.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 15, 2016 17:29:01 GMT 1
I forgot about the non weirdo demographic of the Lee Clark appreciation society.. sometimes referred to as "expats " Two flaws in your hypothesis Ted. First me, not bitter at all, but also not particularly impressed. …… and then, of course, there's Nick, who's never been out of West Yorkshire. Exceptions to every rule phillipo |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 15, 2016 17:33:01 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 15, 2016 17:47:16 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 15, 2016 17:59:56 GMT 1
To summarise
Aims
1- keep them up
2- Europe next season
3- be in the stands for game tomoro v Rangers
He looks nervous ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:09:58 GMT 1
What was the significance of that run, then? If memory serves, it won us nothing and we were exactly where we started when it finished. The significance being is that it got us to the play offs. It also brought a lot of joy to people not being beaten for so long. Look what happens on here when we get a defeat. Don't misunderstand me I was hugely disappointed as much as the next man when we lost those two play offs. But Clark got us there, Grayson pitched up for a few games and got lucky with the penalties. I agree Grayson was lucky. He had to be because we didn't look like we were going up before he arrived. If we hadn't have gone up though, we would have stood a much better chance the season after with his players brought in, even if we'd lost Rhodes. Having 4 promotions cant all be down to luck. He has completely transformed Preston, like he did with Blackpool and Leeds. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 15, 2016 18:31:49 GMT 1
Last chance saloon for Clark I think.
Theres so many managers out of work, he's very fortunate to keep getting jobs IMO.
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Post by cheesyhtfc on Feb 15, 2016 18:34:29 GMT 1
In 20-25 years time the children of younger Town fans, grandchildren of older Town fans, and great grandchildren of ancient Town fans will be excitedly awaiting their first Town game (at least, the first one that they remember). They'll have been bought a replica shirt with their name on it. They'll have started to learn the chants (without the naughty words that they'll ask about after the game). They'll have been told and/or read about Town glories past.
Wide eyed, they will turn to their forebears and say, with admiration and awe, "Dad/Grandad/Great-Grandad; I've read in this book/watched this DVD/discovered on the internet that Town once went unbeaten in the league for 43 games, and that it is a league record which has stood for 25-30 years, that's amazing!"
To which the response will no doubt be, "no young'un, it's not. The football was crap, the manager was crap, and the record didn't really happen."
Confused, disappointed, and saddened, the fledgeling Town fan's disillusionment with his team begins before his first game kicks off. A new generation of DATMers is born.
To be honest, whether we went 43 games unbeaten, or whether we went 44 games with only one defeat, it's still a bloody good achievement that we should take pride in irrespective of whether we went up, especially as we obtained near on 90 points over that period (I think, I may be wrong and don't have time to check). Promotions may be relatively infrequent with Town, but a run like that is even rarer.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 15, 2016 18:38:30 GMT 1
To summarise Aims 1- keep them up 2- Europe next season 3- be in the stands for game tomoro v Rangers He looks nervous ? The only way clarkie will qualify for Europe is if he is the winner of the "eye of the tiger" combo's efforts to find a new lead singer following their recent bereavement |
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Post by shedds on Feb 15, 2016 19:19:47 GMT 1
or if he fails that ,he could audition for europe itself if joey tempest ever passes away
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Post by impact on Feb 15, 2016 19:29:38 GMT 1
How many points did we drop against Posh? You mean the LEAGUE 1 Play off game? No points on offer for that league 1 game. Just the chance to move up a division in the league. In that case let's also add the Football LEAGUE trophy and LEAGUE cup to that list. |
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Post by impact on Feb 15, 2016 19:34:28 GMT 1
The significance being is that it got us to the play offs. It also brought a lot of joy to people not being beaten for so long. Look what happens on here when we get a defeat. Don't misunderstand me I was hugely disappointed as much as the next man when we lost those two play offs. But Clark got us there, Grayson pitched up for a few games and got lucky with the penalties. I agree Grayson was lucky. He had to be because we didn't look like we were going up before he arrived. If we hadn't have gone up though, we would have stood a much better chance the season after with his players brought in, even if we'd lost Rhodes. Having 4 promotions cant all be down to luck. He has completely transformed Preston, like he did with Blackpool and Leeds. All ifs, buts and maybes but IMO without Rhodes we wouldn't have had a chance. We got promoted that year because Ched Evans got convicted. If he hadn't, Utd would have got auto promotion and Wednesday would have blown us away in the final. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 15, 2016 19:35:17 GMT 1
In 20-25 years time the children of younger Town fans, grandchildren of older Town fans, and great grandchildren of ancient Town fans will be excitedly awaiting their first Town game (at least, the first one that they remember). They'll have been bought a replica shirt with their name on it. They'll have started to learn the chants (without the naughty words that they'll ask about after the game). They'll have been told and/or read about Town glories past. Wide eyed, they will turn to their forebears and say, with admiration and awe, "Dad/Grandad/Great-Grandad; I've read in this book/watched this DVD/discovered on the internet that Town once went unbeaten in the league for 43 games, and that it is a league record which has stood for 25-30 years, that's amazing!" To which the response will no doubt be, "no young'un, it's not. The football was crap, the manager was crap, and the record didn't really happen." Confused, disappointed, and saddened, the fledgeling Town fan's disillusionment with his team begins before his first game kicks off. A new generation of DATMers is born. To be honest, whether we went 43 games unbeaten, or whether we went 44 games with only one defeat, it's still a bloody good achievement that we should take pride in irrespective of whether we went up, especially as we obtained near on 90 points over that period (I think, I may be wrong and don't have time to check). Promotions may be relatively infrequent with Town, but a run like that is even rarer. Excellent post & I think every town fan appreciate what LC did for town, but equally I think most fans appreciate that he left the club at the right time.. He'd taken us as far as he could & you could see the was strain affecting him badly in the end. I for one wish him well at his new club! |
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