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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 21, 2017 7:32:28 GMT 1
23 pages of mostly guff. Fact that Wagner and Deano back the new Arrangements. Dear me, move on. Hundreds and hundreds of youngsters over last Whateva years have had a massive chance.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 21, 2017 7:35:37 GMT 1
23 pages of mostly guff. Fact that Wagner and Deano back the new Arrangements. Dear me, move on. Hundreds and hundreds of youngsters over last Whateva years have had a massive chance. Total guff Pal, I back deano. Great decision imo.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 21, 2017 7:37:27 GMT 1
23 pages of mostly guff. Fact that Wagner and Deano back the new Arrangements. Dear me, move on. Hundreds and hundreds of youngsters over last Whateva years have had a massive chance. Total guff Pal, I back deano. Great decision imo. I hope your not patronising me and been genuine mate.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 21, 2017 7:39:45 GMT 1
Total guff Pal, I back deano. Great decision imo. I hope your not patronising me and been genuine mate. No it's a good decision imo
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Post by griffa on Sept 21, 2017 8:37:09 GMT 1
You have totally avoided the specific points I made! 1) 8 mill loss in the specific area of this thread (academy) 2) The contribution I/you make in comparison I. E. proportion of entitlement to cast judgement. Regarding swearing- I did it for reason. I have read lots of folk rationally responding to your posts & you have singularly failed to take on board the excellent points they made. I thought I would try an 'in your face' rude style to see if you got that instead? Clearly not judging by your response! You appear to be a lost cause to intellectual processing. Wrong I did address the £8 million, you were non specific, about the money. Were you referring to the £8 million spent on Canalside? Were you suggesting that we spend £8 million per year, running the Academy I reiterate Dean stated on RL, during his interview that the cost of running the Academy is £1.2 million per year. Intellectual processing, don't make me laugh, I fully understand all the aspects of the points made by Dean, he was very plausible, in the RL interview, despite which I disagree with the scrapping of Town's Academy. Unfortunately, he will not lose any sleep about my & many fellow Town fans opinions, the decision has been made, it is final. I respect your view, don't agree with it, intellectual processing, must say, that's the must polite insult anybody has ever, thrown my way & all because I disagree with your point of view! Dean Hoyle joined the HTAFC board in 2008, he become majority shareholder, owner & Chairman, in 2009. During each of the following years Huddersfield Town Ltd has recorded a loss:- 1) 2009/2010. 2) 2010/2011. 3) 2011/2012. 4) 2012/2013. 5) 2013/2014. 6) 2014/2015. 7) 2015/2016. 8) 2016/2017. Dean Hoyle has funded those losses accrued from 2009/2010 to 2016/17, the sale of several players during those years, has mitigated the losses. Promotion has massively increased Town's income, of course figures will not be available, until they are published, as result of the completion of the current season. Watched & listened to Dean's interview with Gareth Jones again. Dean states that the £1.2 million spent on the Academy, will be spent in other areas, supporting youth football locally. I fully understand the basic workings of 'Profit & Loss,' it's not difficult, to understand. EPPP gives a poor deal, to any club, not running a Cat 1 Academy, it would have been possible to continue with our Cat 2 Academy, until the end of 2017/2018 season. It would have been preferable, to review our Cat 2 Academy, once our participation in PL 2018/2019, has been confirmed, or god forbid, we are relegated back to the Championship. To scrap the Academy in September 2017, is bizarre & irrational, the timing of the decision appears, unlike any other, taken by Dean Hoyle.
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Post by realmadkid on Sept 21, 2017 8:42:24 GMT 1
Wrong I did address the £8 million, you were non specific, about the money. Were you referring to the £8 million spent on Canalside? Were you suggesting that we spend £8 million per year, running the Academy I reiterate Dean stated on RL, during his interview that the cost of running the Academy is £1.2 million per year. Intellectual processing, don't make me laugh, I fully understand all the aspects of the points made by Dean, he was very plausible, in the RL interview, despite which I disagree with the scrapping of Town's Academy. Unfortunately, he will not lose any sleep about my & many fellow Town fans opinions, the decision has been made, it is final. I respect your view, don't agree with it, intellectual processing, must say, that's the must polite insult anybody has ever, thrown my way & all because I disagree with your point of view! Dean Hoyle joined the HTAFC board in 2008, he become majority shareholder, owner & Chairman, in 2009. During each of the following years Huddersfield Town Ltd has recorded a loss:- 1) 2009/2010. 2) 2010/2011. 3) 2011/2012. 4) 2012/2013. 5) 2013/2014. 6) 2014/2015. 7) 2015/2016. 8) 2016/2017. Dean Hoyle has funded those losses accrued from 2009/2010 to 2016/17, the sale of several players during those years, has mitigated the losses. Promotion has massively increased Town's income, of course figures will not be available, until they are published, as result of the completion of the current season. Watched & listened to Dean's interview with Gareth Jones again. Dean states that the £1.2 million spent on the Academy, will be spent in other areas, supporting youth football locally. I fully understand the basic workings of 'Profit & Loss,' it's not difficult, to understand. EPPP gives a poor deal, to any club, not running a Cat 1 Academy, it would have been possible to continue with our Cat 2 Academy, until the end of 2017/2018 season. It would have been preferable, to review our Cat 2 Academy, once our participation in PL 2018/2019, has been confirmed, or god forbid, we are relegated back to the Championship. To scrap the Academy in September 2017, is bizarre & irrational, the timing of the decision appears, unlike any other, taken by Dean Hoyle. So what point are you trying to make? You seem to be hinting at some kind of hidden agenda (reading between the lines). Why has Hoyle made what you refer to as a 'bizarre and irrational' decision? Genuine question - not having a go at you.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 21, 2017 9:02:24 GMT 1
Wrong I did address the £8 million, you were non specific, about the money. Were you referring to the £8 million spent on Canalside? Were you suggesting that we spend £8 million per year, running the Academy I reiterate Dean stated on RL, during his interview that the cost of running the Academy is £1.2 million per year. Intellectual processing, don't make me laugh, I fully understand all the aspects of the points made by Dean, he was very plausible, in the RL interview, despite which I disagree with the scrapping of Town's Academy. Unfortunately, he will not lose any sleep about my & many fellow Town fans opinions, the decision has been made, it is final. I respect your view, don't agree with it, intellectual processing, must say, that's the must polite insult anybody has ever, thrown my way & all because I disagree with your point of view! Dean Hoyle joined the HTAFC board in 2008, he become majority shareholder, owner & Chairman, in 2009. During each of the following years Huddersfield Town Ltd has recorded a loss:- 1) 2009/2010. 2) 2010/2011. 3) 2011/2012. 4) 2012/2013. 5) 2013/2014. 6) 2014/2015. 7) 2015/2016. 8) 2016/2017. Dean Hoyle has funded those losses accrued from 2009/2010 to 2016/17, the sale of several players during those years, has mitigated the losses. Promotion has massively increased Town's income, of course figures will not be available, until they are published, as result of the completion of the current season. Watched & listened to Dean's interview with Gareth Jones again. Dean states that the £1.2 million spent on the Academy, will be spent in other areas, supporting youth football locally. I fully understand the basic workings of 'Profit & Loss,' it's not difficult, to understand. EPPP gives a poor deal, to any club, not running a Cat 1 Academy, it would have been possible to continue with our Cat 2 Academy, until the end of 2017/2018 season. It would have been preferable, to review our Cat 2 Academy, once our participation in PL 2018/2019, has been confirmed, or god forbid, we are relegated back to the Championship. To scrap the Academy in September 2017, is bizarre & irrational, the timing of the decision appears, unlike any other, taken by Dean Hoyle. So EPPP gives all but cat 1 academies a poor deal but qe should continue funding a non performing cat 2 one?! Am i missing something?
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Post by griffa on Sept 21, 2017 9:16:11 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle joined the HTAFC board in 2008, he become majority shareholder, owner & Chairman, in 2009. During each of the following years Huddersfield Town Ltd has recorded a loss:- 1) 2009/2010. 2) 2010/2011. 3) 2011/2012. 4) 2012/2013. 5) 2013/2014. 6) 2014/2015. 7) 2015/2016. 8) 2016/2017. Dean Hoyle has funded those losses accrued from 2009/2010 to 2016/17, the sale of several players during those years, has mitigated the losses. Promotion has massively increased Town's income, of course figures will not be available, until they are published, as result of the completion of the current season. Watched & listened to Dean's interview with Gareth Jones again. Dean states that the £1.2 million spent on the Academy, will be spent in other areas, supporting youth football locally. I fully understand the basic workings of 'Profit & Loss,' it's not difficult, to understand. EPPP gives a poor deal, to any club, not running a Cat 1 Academy, it would have been possible to continue with our Cat 2 Academy, until the end of 2017/2018 season. It would have been preferable, to review our Cat 2 Academy, once our participation in PL 2018/2019, has been confirmed, or god forbid, we are relegated back to the Championship. To scrap the Academy in September 2017, is bizarre & irrational, the timing of the decision appears, unlike any other, taken by Dean Hoyle. So what point are you trying to make? You seem to be hinting at some kind of hidden agenda (reading between the lines). Why has Hoyle made what you refer to as a 'bizarre and irrational' decision? Genuine question - not having a go at you. No hidden meaning, my 'bizarre & irrational' comments are based on the timing of the closure. Dean's rationale, is not based on money, as according to his RL interview, the £1.2 million, will be spent locally, supporting youth football. Weaver & Tony Carrs leaving, must have been a blow, not sure whether anybody has been interviewed, to replace Weaver. Perhaps it was difficult to interview & make a job offer, if Dean intended to close the Academy at the end the current season. Retaining PL status would have enabled us to continue comfortably with our Cat 2 Status, invest more funds to seek Cat 1 status. There is no doubt that other Academies have performed better than Town's Academy, during the past 5 years ie Barnsley & Leeds, for example. The success they have had, has not occurred as a result of Alchemy, it's because the individuals & structures in those respective Academies, are better than ours. It's sad to see posters dismissing the 24 pages as "guff," is this because some don't understand the seriousness of the decision, to scrap the Academy & the future of Huddersfield Town.
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Post by realmadkid on Sept 21, 2017 9:29:31 GMT 1
So what point are you trying to make? You seem to be hinting at some kind of hidden agenda (reading between the lines). Why has Hoyle made what you refer to as a 'bizarre and irrational' decision? Genuine question - not having a go at you. No hidden meaning, my 'bizarre & irrational' comments are based on the timing of the closure. Dean's rationale, is not based on money, as according to his RL interview, the £1.2 million, will be spent locally, supporting youth football. Weaver & Tony Carrs leaving, must have been a blow, not sure whether anybody has been interviewed, to replace Weaver. Perhaps it was difficult to interview & make a job offer, if Dean intended to close the Academy at the end the current season. Retaining PL status would have enabled us to continue comfortably with our Cat 2 Status, invest more funds to seek Cat 1 status. There is no doubt that other Academies have performed better than Town's Academy, during the past 5 years ie Barnsley & Leeds, for example. The success they have had, has not occurred as a result of Alchemy, it's because the individuals & structures in those respective Academies, are better than ours. It's sad to see posters dismissing the 24 pages as "guff," is this because some don't understand the seriousness of the decision, to scrap the Academy & the future of Huddersfield Town. Thanks for the reply. I tend to think though that Dean (generally) doesn't do 'bizarre and irrational'. Not saying its impossible by any means, but my view is that his track record so far seems pretty damned good to me, therefore I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on this and trust that he has got it right, whatever his reasoning. I have to say though it does genuinely surprise me that people who are in possession of only an 'outsider's' view are so adamant that the decision is a wrong one whilst not being in possession of the full facts.
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So what point are you trying to make? You seem to be hinting at some kind of hidden agenda (reading between the lines). Why has Hoyle made what you refer to as a 'bizarre and irrational' decision? Genuine question - not having a go at you. ...... It's sad to see posters dismissing the 24 pages as "guff," is this because some don't understand the seriousness of the decision, to scrap the Academy & the future of Huddersfield Town. If we were scrapping the Academy it would be serious, however we're keeping it but without any under 16's. I agree that the timing of the decision is unfortunate to say the least, but that wouldn't affect DH if he thought it was the correct one. The Foundation is the link with the community, the Academy is part of the football side of the club and has underperformed. When I first heard the decision I thought it was an awful decision based on community and PR issues. However on reflection it does appear to be the correct one for us - although the timing could have been better and from what others have said in this thread the decision process and communication could have been handled better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 9:52:52 GMT 1
And as mentioned earlier in this thread, this overseas avenue for recruitment that some at putting up as a likely way forward to us, which could very well be slammed shut shortly.... ‘Both clubs are in the European Union or European Economic Area and the player is aged between 16 and 18This is in line with current UK Working Visa requirements for non EU/EEA individuals, they have to be internationals and the UK club trying to bring them in HAVE to be playing in our top division...which explains why today the freedom to transfer young players from overseas is limited to Europeans.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 21, 2017 10:14:57 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle joined the HTAFC board in 2008, he become majority shareholder, owner & Chairman, in 2009. During each of the following years Huddersfield Town Ltd has recorded a loss:- 1) 2009/2010. 2) 2010/2011. 3) 2011/2012. 4) 2012/2013. 5) 2013/2014. 6) 2014/2015. 7) 2015/2016. 8) 2016/2017. Dean Hoyle has funded those losses accrued from 2009/2010 to 2016/17, the sale of several players during those years, has mitigated the losses. Promotion has massively increased Town's income, of course figures will not be available, until they are published, as result of the completion of the current season. Watched & listened to Dean's interview with Gareth Jones again. Dean states that the £1.2 million spent on the Academy, will be spent in other areas, supporting youth football locally. I fully understand the basic workings of 'Profit & Loss,' it's not difficult, to understand. EPPP gives a poor deal, to any club, not running a Cat 1 Academy, it would have been possible to continue with our Cat 2 Academy, until the end of 2017/2018 season. It would have been preferable, to review our Cat 2 Academy, once our participation in PL 2018/2019, has been confirmed, or god forbid, we are relegated back to the Championship. To scrap the Academy in September 2017, is bizarre & irrational, the timing of the decision appears, unlike any other, taken by Dean Hoyle. So EPPP gives all but cat 1 academies a poor deal but qe should continue funding a non performing cat 2 one?! Am i missing something? I'd say we've not waited long enough to see if the cat 2 academy will produce since it's only been cat 2 since EPPP
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Post by griffa on Sept 21, 2017 10:24:31 GMT 1
...... It's sad to see posters dismissing the 24 pages as "guff," is this because some don't understand the seriousness of the decision, to scrap the Academy & the future of Huddersfield Town. If we were scrapping the Academy it would be serious, however we're keeping it but without any under 16's. I agree that the timing of the decision is unfortunate to say the least, but that wouldn't affect DH if he thought it was the correct one. The Foundation is the link with the community, the Academy is part of the football side of the club and has underperformed. When I first heard the decision I thought it was an awful decision based on community and PR issues. However on reflection it does appear to be the correct one for us - although the timing could have been better and from what others have said in this thread the decision process and communication could have been handled better. We are down grading to Cat 4 status, although not scrapping the Academy entirely, reducing from Cat 2 status, is effectively scrapping it. The timing is very questionable, as Dean has confirmed, we will continue to spend the £1.2 million, in local youth football.
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Post by COWleySHED on Sept 21, 2017 10:39:23 GMT 1
Griffa talks absolute sense, made several excellent points that nobody can argue against.
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Post by mids on Sept 21, 2017 10:39:26 GMT 1
Retaining PL status would have enabled us to continue comfortably with our Cat 2 Status, invest more funds to seek Cat 1 status. The success they have had, has not occurred as a result of Alchemy, it's because the individuals & structures in those respective Academies, are better than ours. It's sad to see posters dismissing the 24 pages as "guff," is this because some don't understand the seriousness of the decision, to scrap the Academy & the future of Huddersfield Town. If Town had invested in category 1, would that have stopped all the big clubs creaming off our better players in their early teens? The other academies' success can only realistically be put down to them getting the better players surely? The individuals and structures they employ will be broadly equivalent to what other academies do. The decision to downgrade, not scrap, the academy will not affect the future of Huddersfield Town. Why would it? There is a lot of repeated guff on this topic, and it's getting a tad tedious. It reminds me of how others must have thought when I, and others, were continually bleating about the shares situation. But at least we had some facts to back up our sensationalism, and that truly did affect the future of our club!!
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Post by mids on Sept 21, 2017 10:40:57 GMT 1
Griffa talks absolute sense, made several excellent points that nobody can argue against. He's said plenty of things to be fair. Could you bullet point the 'excellent' ones that can't be argued against please?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:02:11 GMT 1
There were problems with the games program and a focus on results over development-Those were addressed by Steve Weaver. They must have better coaches & structure, than Town, it's alchemy. if our coaches & structures weren't good, that's as a result of appointments & decisions made 5 years ago, by Dean Hoyle & Co. Coaching in the YDP phase was excellent-two coaches who were with us last season are now head of coaching at other academies.You can see how good the YDP phase was from the number of players we have who some of the biggest clubs in the country are fighting over. We have had quite a few people on here with bad experiences of the Foundation phase under its previous head coach but that has improved since Dean Wright took over-great shame he wasnt given more time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:07:31 GMT 1
There's still probably less than a 10% chance he'll make it as a professional and probably less than a 1% chance at the top level. I'm glad he has found a place, the same with any others finding another academy. The best will find somewhere, those that don't can go back to playing local football purely for the love of the game. It still 'feels' the wrong decision, but the more you think about it the more sensible it is. We now need premier league or championship level recruits and unless we went to cat 1 any decent players would get poached before 16 for limited returns. Funding a category 1 academy if we end up being relegated could be catastrophic for the club. Not sensible saving 500,000 per year but letting players go for free to top premiership clubs all it takes is one Lewis cook to come through and that's a decade of academy funding there. Billing is worth over 8 million now. is he really?
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Post by WaterlooTerrier on Sept 21, 2017 11:15:34 GMT 1
There's still probably less than a 10% chance he'll make it as a professional and probably less than a 1% chance at the top level. I'm glad he has found a place, the same with any others finding another academy. The best will find somewhere, those that don't can go back to playing local football purely for the love of the game. It still 'feels' the wrong decision, but the more you think about it the more sensible it is. We now need premier league or championship level recruits and unless we went to cat 1 any decent players would get poached before 16 for limited returns. Funding a category 1 academy if we end up being relegated could be catastrophic for the club. Not sensible saving 500,000 per year but letting players go for free to top premiership clubs all it takes is one Lewis cook to come through and that's a decade of academy funding there. Billing is worth over 8 million now. Didn't Billing come here as a 16/17 year old? Not sure that really qualifies him to be one of our 'academy' products. The majority of his progression has come in the last couple of years in the U23's, which we will be keeping, so not sure that using Billing is actually a great example of players coming through the academy prove it's value
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:19:47 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle joined the HTAFC board in 2008, he become majority shareholder, owner & Chairman, in 2009. During each of the following years Huddersfield Town Ltd has recorded a loss:- 1) 2009/2010. 2) 2010/2011. 3) 2011/2012. 4) 2012/2013. 5) 2013/2014. 6) 2014/2015. 7) 2015/2016. 8) 2016/2017. Dean Hoyle has funded those losses accrued from 2009/2010 to 2016/17, the sale of several players during those years, has mitigated the losses. Promotion has massively increased Town's income, of course figures will not be available, until they are published, as result of the completion of the current season. Watched & listened to Dean's interview with Gareth Jones again. Dean states that the £1.2 million spent on the Academy, will be spent in other areas, supporting youth football locally. I fully understand the basic workings of 'Profit & Loss,' it's not difficult, to understand. EPPP gives a poor deal, to any club, not running a Cat 1 Academy, it would have been possible to continue with our Cat 2 Academy, until the end of 2017/2018 season. It would have been preferable, to review our Cat 2 Academy, once our participation in PL 2018/2019, has been confirmed, or god forbid, we are relegated back to the Championship. To scrap the Academy in September 2017, is bizarre & irrational, the timing of the decision appears, unlike any other, taken by Dean Hoyle. So what point are you trying to make? You seem to be hinting at some kind of hidden agenda (reading between the lines). Why has Hoyle made what you refer to as a 'bizarre and irrational' decision? Genuine question - not having a go at you. Whether you agree with the decision or not one thing is perfectly clear.Dean Hoyle may make mistakes and for me having thought it out and my knowledge of the academy sinse it started I agree with his decision he does not do things Irrationaly
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:28:50 GMT 1
Not sensible saving 500,000 per year but letting players go for free to top premiership clubs all it takes is one Lewis cook to come through and that's a decade of academy funding there. Billing is worth over 8 million now. Didn't Billing come here as a 16/17 year old? Not sure that really qualifies him to be one of our 'academy' products. The majority of his progression has come in the last couple of years in the U23's, which we will be keeping, so not sure that using Billing is actually a great example of players coming through the academy prove it's value Except of course, the Prodessional Development League 2 that we were competing in, was a right earned by our Academy 2 status (that’s why we couldn’t get promoted despite winning it). Would he have the same development in our u23s if the next Phil Billing came along now who will likely end up arranging ad hoc fixtures or joining some league along with players from Halifax, Rochdale, York etc? I doubt in those circumstances that the next Phil Billing even joins us?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:53:37 GMT 1
Griffa talks absolute sense, made several excellent points that nobody can argue against. I have never seen quite as much 'unrelated to relevant facts' guff regurgitated as from Griffa on this thread. How on earth you draw that conclusion beggars belief.
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Post by griffa on Sept 21, 2017 11:59:38 GMT 1
So what point are you trying to make? You seem to be hinting at some kind of hidden agenda (reading between the lines). Why has Hoyle made what you refer to as a 'bizarre and irrational' decision? Genuine question - not having a go at you. Whether you agree with the decision or not one thing is perfectly clear.Dean Hoyle may make mistakes and for me having thought it out and my knowledge of the academy sinse it started I agree with his decision he does not do things Irrationaly I agree, it's unlike him, scrapping the Academy Cat 2 Status in September, rather than at the end of the season, if we are relegated to the Championship! IOr if we retain PL Status, downgrading to Cat 4, at the end of the season, would still have been controversial, but not as controversial as scrapping it in September, 2 months into the season!
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Post by mids on Sept 21, 2017 12:19:45 GMT 1
Whether you agree with the decision or not one thing is perfectly clear.Dean Hoyle may make mistakes and for me having thought it out and my knowledge of the academy sinse it started I agree with his decision he does not do things Irrationaly I agree, it's unlike him, scrapping the Academy Cat 2 Status in September, rather than at the end of the season, if we are relegated to the Championship! IOr if we retain PL Status, downgrading to Cat 4, at the end of the season, would still have been controversial, but not as controversial as scrapping it in September, 2 months into the season! You keep saying the same thing, over, and over, and over, and over again..... Why would it have been less controversial to scrap it at the end of the season? The kids would still have been released.....but they'd be 8 months further on, and 8 months wasted of their progression.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 12:27:12 GMT 1
Even though the sale of Hunt and Smithies has covered the cost of the academy during Hoyle's tenure? I thought it cost £1.25m to run the academy so over 10 years that's £12.5m. I think we got around £2m for each of those 2 so by my reckoning we're down about £8.5m during Deano's tenure. That's a lot of money in anyone's language. Maybe if he put each season ticket up by £62.50 to pay for it would you be happy with that? EPPP has run since 2012. 5 years. The cost of running the academy is £1.2m, the cost to Huddersfield Town is not £1.2m due EPPP reparations among other things. All of this means that the sale of Hunt and Smithies has covered the cost of the academy.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 21, 2017 12:44:40 GMT 1
Not sensible saving 500,000 per year but letting players go for free to top premiership clubs all it takes is one Lewis cook to come through and that's a decade of academy funding there. Billing is worth over 8 million now. is he really? We turned down more than that from Swansea
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 12:51:52 GMT 1
Didn't Billing come here as a 16/17 year old? Not sure that really qualifies him to be one of our 'academy' products. The majority of his progression has come in the last couple of years in the U23's, which we will be keeping, so not sure that using Billing is actually a great example of players coming through the academy prove it's value Except of course, the Prodessional Development League 2 that we were competing in, was a right earned by our Academy 2 status (that’s why we couldn’t get promoted despite winning it). Would he have the same development in our u23s if the next Phil Billing came along now who will likely end up arranging ad hoc fixtures or joining some league along with players from Halifax, Rochdale, York etc? I doubt in those circumstances that the next Phil Billing even joins us? And I m sure we will lose some of the current u18s/u23s because of the games program next season-
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Post by mids on Sept 21, 2017 13:01:45 GMT 1
I thought it cost £1.25m to run the academy so over 10 years that's £12.5m. I think we got around £2m for each of those 2 so by my reckoning we're down about £8.5m during Deano's tenure. That's a lot of money in anyone's language. Maybe if he put each season ticket up by £62.50 to pay for it would you be happy with that? EPPP has run since 2012. 5 years. The cost of running the academy is £1.2m, the cost to Huddersfield Town is not £1.2m due EPPP reparations among other things. All of this means that the sale of Hunt and Smithies has covered the cost of the academy. Was the Academy free to run prior to EPPP? If not, your costings are wrong. Very wrong.
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Post by griffa on Sept 21, 2017 13:02:33 GMT 1
I thought it cost £1.25m to run the academy so over 10 years that's £12.5m. I think we got around £2m for each of those 2 so by my reckoning we're down about £8.5m during Deano's tenure. That's a lot of money in anyone's language. Maybe if he put each season ticket up by £62.50 to pay for it would you be happy with that? EPPP has run since 2012. 5 years. The cost of running the academy is £1.2m, the cost to Huddersfield Town is not £1.2m due EPPP reparations among other things. All of this means that the sale of Hunt and Smithies has covered the cost of the academy. I would have gladly paid the extra £62.50, to help fund the Academy, it's a really good point you make, I'm sure many Town fan's would have paid the additional payment.
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