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Post by teddytheterrier on Nov 28, 2015 19:01:47 GMT 1
Chat shit get banged.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 19:22:26 GMT 1
Why can't I call him useless? It is a forum of 'opinions' so many keep saying. Thing is, i can comment on his ability first hand as I've played against him on three or four occasions. The lad will NEVER cut it as a professional footballer.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Nov 30, 2015 15:53:49 GMT 1
I wonder if Terrierluke has ever considered being our chief scout? Clearly has an eye for talent.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 16:26:30 GMT 1
Big discussion on radio Leeds recently regarding the players that got away.
Dean Hoyle sent Lee Clark to check out Vardy in his early days .
Clark reported back to the club saying that he thought Vardy had an attitude problem, and would not fit into his Huddersfield side.
Rest is history.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:20:30 GMT 1
Big discussion on radio Leeds recently regarding the players that got away.
Dean Hoyle sent Lee Clark to check out Vardy in his early days .
Clark reported back to the club saying that he thought Vardy had an attitude problem, and would not fit into his Huddersfield side.
Rest is history. More like Hoyle wouldn't stump up the cash.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:31:44 GMT 1
Big discussion on radio Leeds recently regarding the players that got away.
Dean Hoyle sent Lee Clark to check out Vardy in his early days .
Clark reported back to the club saying that he thought Vardy had an attitude problem, and would not fit into his Huddersfield side.
Rest is history. More like Hoyle wouldn't stump up the cash. Felt sorry for Lee being starved of cash, tight as a ducks arse that Hoyle!
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 17:44:51 GMT 1
More like Hoyle wouldn't stump up the cash. Felt sorry for Lee being starved of cash, tight as a ducks arse that Hoyle! How much would an unknown Vardy cost to buy at the time !!!!! "couple of quid maybe ".
He would have been developed by the club , and maybe sold on to a premier league club for a nice tidy profit with add- ons..
Wonder if a Rhodes /Vardy strike partnership might have worked at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:48:45 GMT 1
Whoooosh!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 19:45:21 GMT 1
More like Hoyle wouldn't stump up the cash. Felt sorry for Lee being starved of cash, tight as a ducks arse that Hoyle! Agreed he gave Clark full backing, but Hoyle dropped a few clangers regarding transfers including Rickie Lambert. But he sold both Robins and Powell down the river regarding spending money. Robins pre season 14-15 and Powell this time round.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 20:00:08 GMT 1
Felt sorry for Lee being starved of cash, tight as a ducks arse that Hoyle! Agreed he gave Clark full backing, but Hoyle dropped a few clangers regarding transfers including Rickie Lambert. But he sold both Robins and Powell down the river regarding spending money. Robins pre season 14-15 and Powell this time round. He will admit to mistakes like Lambert in hindsight however Vardy was there for peanuts, let's face it he went to Fleetwood. When speaking about attitude isn't it possible his alleged bad boy reputation went against him?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 20:10:46 GMT 1
Agreed he gave Clark full backing, but Hoyle dropped a few clangers regarding transfers including Rickie Lambert. But he sold both Robins and Powell down the river regarding spending money. Robins pre season 14-15 and Powell this time round. He will admit to mistakes like Lambert in hindsight however Vardy was there for peanuts, let's face it he went to Fleetwood. When speaking about attitude isn't it possible his alleged bad boy reputation went against him? A so called " bad boy reputation " didn't go against Adam Hammill especially after ended up with a criminal record .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 20:18:08 GMT 1
He will admit to mistakes like Lambert in hindsight however Vardy was there for peanuts, let's face it he went to Fleetwood. When speaking about attitude isn't it possible his alleged bad boy reputation went against him? A so called " bad boy reputation " didn't go against a very naughty Adam Hammill who ended up with a criminal record . NOT under Lee Clark, who allegedly turned down the chance to sign Vardy.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 20:19:58 GMT 1
A so called " bad boy reputation " didn't go against a very naughty Adam Hammill who ended up with a criminal record . NOT under Lee Clark, who allegedly turned down the chance to sign Vardy. I believe Hoyle would have made the final decision on both mentioned players of Vardy and Hammill " attitude or not ".
Totally agree with you codds regarding what you stated about Clark ,but it seems many a player with attitude problem as gone un noticed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 20:33:41 GMT 1
NOT under Lee Clark, who allegedly turned down the chance to sign Vardy. Yes but both managers in question were under Hoyle who I believe made the final decision. So what you're saying is Dean Hoyle could / would have overruled his manager if he thought he would be a dodgy signing and sign him anyway? As I recall Mark Robins took Hammill on loan before his transgression which I will not defend him on. However it was ONE drunken night out not a catalogue of crime.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 21:04:23 GMT 1
Yes but both managers in question were under Hoyle who I believe made the final decision. So what you're saying is Dean Hoyle could / would have overruled his manager if he thought he would be a dodgy signing and sign him anyway? As I recall Mark Robins took Hammill on loan before his transgression which I will not defend him on. However it was ONE drunken night out not a catalogue of crime. Hammill was on loan in his first period at Huddersfield Town when he committed that dreadful offence on Oct 7th 2012.
That loan period finished on Jan' 13th 2013 when Hammill went back to Wolves.
Town were obviously well aware of Hammill's so called "bad boy behaviour " when Hoyle re signed him on a permanent deal on 24th June 2013.
The big difference being that Lee Clark "ONLY THOUGHT " Vardy had a so called attitude bad boy reputation , but Hammill's " serious drunken violent issues " were proven in a court of law .
Still it is said that everybody deserves a second chance even though drinking 13 pints of lager plus a dozen vodka shots isn't exactly what I would describe as part of a Professional footballers fitness regime.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 21:40:22 GMT 1
So what you're saying is Dean Hoyle could / would have overruled his manager if he thought he would be a dodgy signing and sign him anyway? As I recall Mark Robins took Hammill on loan before his transgression which I will not defend him on. However it was ONE drunken night out not a catalogue of crime. Hammill was on loan in his first period at Huddersfield Town when he committed that dreadful offence on Oct 7th 2012.
That loan period finished on Jan' 13th 2013 when Hammill went back to Wolves.
Town were obviously well aware of Hammill's so called "bad boy behaviour " when Hoyle re signed him on a permanent deal on 24th June 2013.
The big difference being that Lee Clark "ONLY THOUGHT " Vardy had a so called attitude bad boy reputation , but Hammill's " serious drunken violent issues " were proven in a court of law .
Still it is said that everybody deserves a second chance even though drinking 13 pints of lager plus a dozen vodka shots isn't exactly what I would describe as part of a Professional footballers fitness regime.
What exactly has any of that got to do with Lee Clark recommending not signing a player due to his opinion of his character? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by sudbury on Nov 30, 2015 21:40:21 GMT 1
I first reported on here (a long time ago) that LC had been to watch Vardy and reported back that he wasn't good enough. I was told about this from 'the horse's mouth' i.e Ross Wilson, before he moved to Southampton. I saw Vardy play at Halifax and remember being surprised and disappointed at the time that DH hadn't over-ruled LC and brought him to Town. If necessary, we could then have loaned him out to Fleetwood. But, remember, Vardy was at Sheffield Wednesday when he was 16 and they let him go because he was considered too small. Vardy is now setting up some sort of Academy for promising non-league players because he thinks there are a lot of 'undiscovered' gems out their, just like he was.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 22:08:05 GMT 1
Yannick Bolasie another one that got away! You should have listened to me Town.....
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 22:14:09 GMT 1
What exactly has any of that got to do with Lee Clark recommending not signing a player due to his opinion of his character? - ---- ----------------------------CODDS -- Regarding what you said above regarding Dean Hoyle . Would you describe Hammill as being a so called "dodgy signing " which was made by Hoyle after Hammill committed that serious offence. Surely this gave Hammill an automatic so called bad boy image with a serious attitude problem. Obviously we both agree that any town footballer drinking 15 pints of lager and a dozen vodka shots is not an example to set to towns youngsters even though you seem to Sympathetically described his actions as " one drunken night ". Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 22:26:25 GMT 1
Yannick Bolasie another one that got away! You should have listened to me Town..... You couls fill a book with the ones that got away from your tip offs One day they'll listen
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 22:55:08 GMT 1
Does anybody remember a certain Danny Drinkwater .
Scored 5 minutes on his debut when town stuffed Brighton 7-1 .
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 22:58:55 GMT 1
Yannick Bolasie another one that got away! You should have listened to me Town..... You couls fill a book with the ones that got away from your tip offs One day they'll listen Maybe offftopic, maybe! The only lower leaguer I've seen this season so far that's caught my attention is David Wheeler at Exeter. Bright guy and got a great attitude.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 30, 2015 23:07:02 GMT 1
Epsom were you responsible for Danny Carr ?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 23:07:24 GMT 1
You couls fill a book with the ones that got away from your tip offs One day they'll listen Maybe offftopic, maybe! The only lower leaguer I've seen this season so far that's caught my attention is David Wheeler at Exeter. Bright guy and got a great attitude. Been watching Wheeler for a while as I watch all the westcountry tv football highlights .
He would certanly make a good stand in for Scannell if he was sold or injured.
Exeter seem to churn em out especially Matt Grimes ,and Wheeler would make a very good signing .
Surely town scouts have got him on their radar.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 30, 2015 23:08:49 GMT 1
Adam Armstrong looks promising.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 23:11:41 GMT 1
What exactly has any of that got to do with Lee Clark recommending not signing a player due to his opinion of his character? - ---- ----------------------------CODDS -- Regarding what you said above regarding Dean Hoyle . Would you describe Hammill as being a so called "dodgy signing " which was made by Hoyle after Hammill committed that serious offence. Surely this gave Hammill an automatic so called bad boy image with a serious attitude problem. Obviously we both agree that any town footballer drinking 15 pints of lager and a dozen vodka shots is not an example to set to towns youngsters even though you seem to Sympathetically described his actions as " one drunken night ". Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Sugy, this started out with me attempting to explain why Lee Clark may have decided against signing Jamie Vardy. Nothing to do with Dean Hoyle or his backing of Mark Robins and signing Adam Hammill. As regards drinking 15 pints of lager and a dozen vodka shots wasn't that consumed in one night? 'One drunken night' isn't that what it was? I repeat I am not defending him or his actions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 23:14:23 GMT 1
Yeah Yeah we get the message. You're great. Pfft Remind us again what your full-time job is? What has my full-time job got to do with anything? Anyway since you asked, I'm a golf journaist/reporter earning well above the national average.How about yourself? Plenty to laugh at poor old Luke at on this thread, but I hope people don't overlook what a ludicrous thing the above is to say, especially if you're thinking of having any sympathy for him!
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 23:17:29 GMT 1
Epsom were you responsible for Danny Carr ? No Chips, I wasn't! Cheeky bugger! I saw Carr come on as a second half sub for Dulwich at Leatherhead a couple of days after it was announced he'd be signing for Town, out of curiosity. To be fair, he looked a cut above the rest, but there you go, it was Isthmian Div 1 South.....probably about the same level as Stocksbridge Park Steels where Vardy started.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 23:19:10 GMT 1
Sugy, this started out with me attempting to explain why Lee Clark may have decided against signing Jamie Vardy. Nothing to do with Dean Hoyle or his backing of Mark Robins and signing Adam Hammill. As regards drinking 15 pints of lager and a dozen vodka shots wasn't that consumed in one night? 'One drunken night' isn't that what it was? I repeat I am not defending him or his actions. Go back to your original post ,and you will see in my reply that I " totally agreed " with what you said about Lee Clark.
Seem to be going round in circles as my only point was that Vardy would not have been the only player ever signed by Dean Hoyle with a bad boy attitude problem.
It was only made public by the club last week about Butterfield's attitude problems ,and Vaughan and Gerrard cannot be far behind .
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 23:22:06 GMT 1
Maybe offftopic, maybe! The only lower leaguer I've seen this season so far that's caught my attention is David Wheeler at Exeter. Bright guy and got a great attitude. Been watching Wheeler for a while as I watch all the westcountry tv football highlights .
He would certanly make a good stand in for Scannell if he was sold or injured.
Exeter seem to churn em out especially Matt Grimes ,and Wheeler would make a very good signing .
Surely town scouts have got him on their radar.
Bit of a late developer is Wheeler, like Vardy was. Ex Staines Town...in fact I might have seen Wheeler play for them at Sutton, but I don't remember him (mind you, Sean Scannell's brother, Damian, was dazzling on the wing for Sutton that night!). I see Exeter a fair bit, as down there semi-frequently
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