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Post by Fullisheight on Sept 23, 2014 18:04:43 GMT 1
How are we gonna differentiate between a veranda and a balcony? I say Balcony = would/could hurt if you fell off it Veranda = would not hurt if you fell off it. Everybody happy with that? It's a balcony then. I feel such a fool. I'll be keeping my thoughts on building features to myself in future. sent by my TVC15 0 0
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 18:18:59 GMT 1
As far as I can see he does not manage the team he has ploughed millions into our club to build a solid foundation, without going down the Clarke and Grayson road It was if my memory served me correctly it was Robins who brought Stead and Patterson in last year and they are simply not good enough DH did not pick these two forwards MR did and DH supported his manager. Also it was not DH who turned out such a spineless performance yesterday it was the overpaid bunch of freeloaders who need the biggest rocket to make them start earning the wages they are paid. If any complaint is to be levelled at the board in my opinion,it it one of selling your best players Rhodes,Clayton,Pilkington,Norwood all want to better themselves and they feel that this can be done away from Huddersfield. I fully understand DH has to do the best for the club when the contract situation of a player dictates action is required,but you simply cannot sell you best players and replace them with ones not as good and expect to do anything else other than struggle. I am not certain how to solve the problem but we need to create a situation at the club were the good player want to stay and try to get Huddersfield promoted to the Premiership and it appears to me that we either pay more money (which we cannot afford) or perhaps we put longer contracts on the table and take a risk with the players,this way the likes of Clayton and Norwood may still be with us,or subsequently we would have received higher transfer fee's for them allowing is to find suitable replacements. As I said in the title I don't see why we are blaming Dean and I think if he had pulled on a shirt yesterday he would have at least tried harder than most of the players on the pitch. Hoyle may not have brought Paterson but he certainly brought Stead in. FACT
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Post by thrice on Sept 23, 2014 21:13:56 GMT 1
A veranda has never seen a balcony!
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Post by Beech's Nuts on Sept 24, 2014 0:08:48 GMT 1
A veranda has never seen a balcony! A veranda looks up to a balcony: it knows its place.
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Post by ram on Sept 24, 2014 10:30:07 GMT 1
Yes,but I have 4 chairs a table and 2 recliners on my veranda.and I,m off to sit on them after the weekend.{weather permitting}
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Post by jasonhand on Sept 24, 2014 11:06:51 GMT 1
I've not read the entire thread here so apologies if I repeat any comments made previously.
Firstly DH as put far more into the club than he has taken out. Without him I shudder to think where we would be today. I often mention Stockport County as an example of where we would probably be. So I do think anyone who believes he hasn't been good for the club need to take a look at that.
Now obviously its very frustrating being a Town supporter at the moment. It would seem pretty obvious we need some new new blood up front and it then becomes frustrating when we read that the answer Patto returning from injury. I think people would just like to hear us being at least linked with someone who has a good goal scoring record. But as ever money is the problem.
A few people seem to think we've got the wrong manager in. I believe there isn't one Manager we could bring it at the moment who could change things dramatically with the current playing staff. But as ever who do we bring in, and what can we realistically afford compared to other clubs in this division.
This is where it all gets very depressing for me. The simple answer isn't a lot is it? FFP has screwed things over for teams like ours. Something which is meant to be fair as actually created a bigger divide in the game and The Championship would seem to be one of the divisions with the biggest divide. We simply cannot match the spending teams of other teams in this division. Yes, I appreciate Burnley did a remarkable job on their budget in gaining promotion but that will have still needed a hell of a lot luck, something we don't seem to get.
At the moment I do think Town will get relegated and if they do then its not the end of world is it?
So no I certainly don't blame DH, I just simply blame what the game has become these days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 11:15:17 GMT 1
relegated? I still think there are 3 worse teams in this league than us. We need a few confidence boosting wins that's all.
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Post by davethesprout on Sept 24, 2014 11:18:39 GMT 1
A veranda has never seen a balcony! he has let clark & grayson & robins bring in lower division players his board room staff are useless let him sell and take cllibins & bloody ross wilson with him if he had sacked robins (as he should have) last season or stopped some of the lopez type signings we might have been ok 6 good signings marshall etc instead of god knows how many average to poor signings we whould not be relegation bound he after all payed the money for them !!!
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Post by In sooth- - on Sept 24, 2014 11:32:36 GMT 1
Probably the only mistakes DH has done has been to agree to sign certain players but is there any chairman or manager who has not made mistakes like that. We cannot overlook the fact that Vaughan`s injuries allied with his striking partner`s lack of power alongside him has been almost a mortal blow. A few goals would have given us few extra essential points whilst the manager sorted out his team and changed a few players.
This Club (and I have supported them since 1968) needs Deano more than ever. I fear him packing up and asking someone else to take over.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 24, 2014 11:54:12 GMT 1
I've not read the entire thread here so apologies if I repeat any comments made previously. Firstly DH as put far more into the club than he has taken out. Without him I shudder to think where we would be today. I often mention Stockport County as an example of where we would probably be. So I do think anyone who believes he hasn't been good for the club need to take a look at that. Now obviously its very frustrating being a Town supporter at the moment. It would seem pretty obvious we need some new new blood up front and it then becomes frustrating when we read that the answer Patto returning from injury. I think people would just like to hear us being at least linked with someone who has a good goal scoring record. But as ever money is the problem. A few people seem to think we've got the wrong manager in. I believe there isn't one Manager we could bring it at the moment who could change things dramatically with the current playing staff. But as ever who do we bring in, and what can we realistically afford compared to other clubs in this division. This is where it all gets very depressing for me. The simple answer isn't a lot is it? FFP has screwed things over for teams like ours. Something which is meant to be fair as actually created a bigger divide in the game and The Championship would seem to be one of the divisions with the biggest divide. We simply cannot match the spending teams of other teams in this division. Yes, I appreciate Burnley did a remarkable job on their budget in gaining promotion but that will have still needed a hell of a lot luck, something we don't seem to get. At the moment I do think Town will get relegated and if they do then its not the end of world is it? So no I certainly don't blame DH, I just simply blame what the game has become these days. I'd tend to disagree regarding FFP...The reality is that clubs like HTFC can't compete in The Championship without things like this in place. What as happened in the last 10 years or even since The Premiership and Sky took financial control of football is that teams like Portsmouth, Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton, just to name a few have been relegated and spent absolute fortunes trying to get back into The Championship, other teams like Leicester, Forest, Middlesboro, Leeds and Birmingham who feel they belong in The Premiership and also spend accordingly (mostly without success)and then there are the promoted clubs Brighton, Southampton, Bournemouth and even Rotherham who feel the need to spend merely to survive. What the FFP is doing for HTFC and the majority of the clubs who co-operate is protecting their club and eventually they should to some extent level the playing field. My hope is that HTFC is the West Brom scenario, where a little patience and a tight financial model as seen them succeed and turn out to be in a very good position.
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Post by CaptainHart on Sept 24, 2014 12:55:25 GMT 1
How are we gonna differentiate between a veranda and a balcony? I say Balcony = would/could hurt if you fell off it Veranda = would not hurt if you fell off it. Everybody happy with that? It's a balcony then. I feel such a fool. I'll be keeping my thoughts on building features to myself in future. sent by my TVC15 0 0 Shouldn't that be TVC15 0 0 0 0 0?
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Post by benhomly on Sept 24, 2014 13:11:52 GMT 1
I've not read the entire thread here so apologies if I repeat any comments made previously. Firstly DH as put far more into the club than he has taken out. Without him I shudder to think where we would be today. I often mention Stockport County as an example of where we would probably be. So I do think anyone who believes he hasn't been good for the club need to take a look at that. Now obviously its very frustrating being a Town supporter at the moment. It would seem pretty obvious we need some new new blood up front and it then becomes frustrating when we read that the answer Patto returning from injury. I think people would just like to hear us being at least linked with someone who has a good goal scoring record. But as ever money is the problem. A few people seem to think we've got the wrong manager in. I believe there isn't one Manager we could bring it at the moment who could change things dramatically with the current playing staff. But as ever who do we bring in, and what can we realistically afford compared to other clubs in this division. This is where it all gets very depressing for me. The simple answer isn't a lot is it? FFP has screwed things over for teams like ours. Something which is meant to be fair as actually created a bigger divide in the game and The Championship would seem to be one of the divisions with the biggest divide. We simply cannot match the spending teams of other teams in this division. Yes, I appreciate Burnley did a remarkable job on their budget in gaining promotion but that will have still needed a hell of a lot luck, something we don't seem to get. At the moment I do think Town will get relegated and if they do then its not the end of world is it? So no I certainly don't blame DH, I just simply blame what the game has become these days. I'd tend to disagree regarding FFP...The reality is that clubs like HTFC can't compete in The Championship without things like this in place. What as happened in the last 10 years or even since The Premiership and Sky took financial control of football is that teams like Portsmouth, Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton, just to name a few have been relegated and spent absolute fortunes trying to get back into The Championship, other teams like Leicester, Forest, Middlesboro, Leeds and Birmingham who feel they belong in The Premiership and also spend accordingly (mostly without success)and then there are the promoted clubs Brighton, Southampton, Bournemouth and even Rotherham who feel the need to spend merely to survive. What the FFP is doing for HTFC and the majority of the clubs who co-operate is protecting their club and eventually they should to some extent level the playing field. My hope is that HTFC is the West Brom scenario, where a little patience and a tight financial model as seen them succeed and turn out to be in a very good position. We will follow the West Brom model but we'll do it between League 1 and The Championship rather than The Championship and Premier League. We're about as far away from the promised land as Vaughan is from being an ever present.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 24, 2014 13:28:32 GMT 1
I was aware that that may be the case.. Although our Championship status is a lot more secure than West Brom's Premiership's was when the three that came up usually went down from The Premiership.
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Post by cabbles on Sept 24, 2014 13:38:16 GMT 1
As a Charlton fan I thought I would check in to see what the consensus on Powell was so far? Are some people laying into him already or are people prepared to give him time? Apologies if this is going away from the original subject, but just saw the above comments and thought to ask the question. His team set up so far has been more to stop us getting beat and maybe nick a goal as opposed to being proactive in the game and going hunting the 3 points on offer. That is his preferred approach, certainly toward the end of his time with us. I'm always looking out for your results now, and when I heard Leeds one I was worried what the reaction would be given the rivalry and scoreline. Hopefully he will come good for you and start to get the best out the team. You've got some decent players.
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Post by netterriers4 on Sept 24, 2014 13:45:53 GMT 1
A veranda has never seen a balcony! he has let clark & grayson & robins bring in lower division players his board room staff are useless let him sell and take cllibins & bloody ross wilson with him if he had sacked robins (as he should have) last season or stopped some of the lopez type signings we might have been ok 6 good signings marshall etc instead of god knows how many average to poor signings we whould not be relegation bound he after all payed the money for them !!! The biggest load of nonsense I have read in a long time. Hoyle isn't perfect or blameless but there speaks a fan with no grasp of the reality of the current situation at HTAFC.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 24, 2014 13:58:13 GMT 1
Massimo at Leeds Utd has just had a verdict of acting dishonestly released by an Italian court (today) and if the Football League keep to their word and standards he should be disqualified from running a football club. Perhaps people would prefer a chairman like him?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 14:16:42 GMT 1
A veranda has never seen a balcony! he has let clark & grayson & robins bring in lower division players his board room staff are useless let him sell and take cllibins & bloody ross wilson with him if he had sacked robins (as he should have) last season or stopped some of the lopez type signings we might have been ok 6 good signings marshall etc instead of god knows how many average to poor signings we whould not be relegation bound he after all payed the money for them !!! Congratulations Dave, I genuinely think that is the worst post I've ever seen on DATM. It's also one of the worst butcherings of the English language I've ever been subjected to.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 24, 2014 15:02:54 GMT 1
Dean makes the final decision. buck stops there same as any business. He knows this or should do. If he is cutting his cloth and the overheads to make a better fist of it in the first division then if he says so, I will go along with him. Re grouping for the next match is slowly looking like re grouping to start again in a lower league. We wont fall apart if it happens, its the way it happens that seems to be more important imo.. we have a good young shadow team and we should be able to retain one or two of our better players, its not the end of the world and if ffp does have any bite we may well be much better off coming back into this division on a more equal footing..
the above may not be a 'popular view' but that's life.. I realise accepting relegation openly could be seen as a massive backward step but we are not moving 'onwards and upwards' and trying to keep up the 'pretence' isn't helping at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 15:30:45 GMT 1
Massimo at Leeds Utd has just had a verdict of acting dishonestly released by an Italian court (today) and if the Football League keep to their word and standards he should be disqualified from running a football club. Perhaps people would prefer a chairman like him? The FL don't have the sack for it. The lovely Massimo was seen forking Town fans in the boxes on Saturday, nice bloke.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 24, 2014 15:40:03 GMT 1
He is Italian, he will ' ' at some point, just a question of time..
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Post by jasonhand on Sept 24, 2014 15:40:23 GMT 1
the above may not be a 'popular view' but that's life.. I realise accepting relegation openly could be seen as a massive backward step but we are not moving 'onwards and upwards' and trying to keep up the 'pretence' isn't helping at all. I'd happen to agree with this to a certain extent. As I said earlier I do think relegation beckons but maybe just maybe it might allow some of our younger players to flourish.
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Post by OldRastrickian on Sept 24, 2014 15:42:17 GMT 1
Just glad he wasn't christened RS Hoyle............
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Post by Fullisheight on Sept 25, 2014 8:38:25 GMT 1
It's a balcony then. I feel such a fool. I'll be keeping my thoughts on building features to myself in future. sent by my TVC15 0 0 Shouldn't that be TVC15 0 0 0 0 0? Oh my. That's the upgrade. Virtually the same (a repeat if you like) but with richer sound.
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