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Post by steve65 on Aug 15, 2017 9:19:53 GMT 1
Quality performance Think he picked up a knock / was on his last legs at the end as some of his short passing was infuriatingly poor Before today would have thought Mooy/Hogg was the ideal center mid pairing; after today Hogg's definitely got his work cut out Another master stoke by DW ? What a position to be in.....a player like Hogg having to work even harder !  |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 15, 2017 11:13:56 GMT 1
Thought we played a bit differently in midfield on Saturday. Billing and Mooy stayed pretty close together, played a bit deeper as a pair, but went up and down the field together. Thought their combined defensive work was excellent and Billing didn't get lost or separated in the middle or too high up the pitch. Hoggy will have trouble getting back in.IF Billing can maintain the same level of performance, which is the problem he's had for us so far. Yes I think his problem has been maintaining the level of performance even during a single game! He had a bit of a blow after about60 minutes last Saturday but pulled it back and was doing the right things up to the end. Lets hope he can keep it going against Newcastle and Southampton - what an opportunity for the lad. Palmer didn't exactly have a poor game but he was a bit less influential than what I remember. Maybe he was a bit overawed by Loftus-Cheek who he must have played second or third fiddle to at Chelsea for a number of years. Thought Loftus-Cheek and the other lad from Man U with the double barrelled name were both excellent for them - good acquisitions. I think we still have a loan left - wonder if we are going to use it? The Klopp connection is hardly paying handsome dividends. |
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 15, 2017 11:26:48 GMT 1
Did anyone else see Tommy Smith give him a bit of a roasting on Saturday? He did something a little bit loose resulting in them getting a good chance/break-away if I remember. When Tommy caught up with him he appeared to give him some right verbals. Billy just nodded his head and took it.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 15, 2017 11:32:59 GMT 1
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 15, 2017 11:33:14 GMT 1
Did anyone else see Tommy Smith give him a bit of a roasting on Saturday? He did something a little bit loose resulting in them getting a good chance/break-away if I remember. When Tommy caught up with him he appeared to give him some right verbals. Billy just nodded his head and took it. Certainly did. He sliced a ball on the edge of the box straight to them leaving Zaha one on one with the already booked captain. Held a single finger up - perhaps saying you e made one mistake, don't make another (he didn't). Could (and maybe should) have been costly but we got away with a 2nd booking for Smith's grappling (which created enough time for Löwe to make the last ditch challenge). Excellent player is Billing (and most definitely not going to end up at Bury) but his lapses tend to err on the catastrophic side. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 11:34:07 GMT 1
IF Billing can maintain the same level of performance, which is the problem he's had for us so far. Yes I think his problem has been maintaining the level of performance even during a single game! He had a bit of a blow after about60 minutes last Saturday but pulled it back and was doing the right things up to the end. Lets hope he can keep it going against Newcastle and Southampton - what an opportunity for the lad. Palmer didn't exactly have a poor game but he was a bit less influential than what I remember. Maybe he was a bit overawed by Loftus-Cheek who he must have played second or third fiddle to at Chelsea for a number of years. Thought Loftus-Cheek and the other lad from Man U with the double barrelled name were both excellent for them - good acquisitions. I think we still have a loan left - wonder if we are going to use it? The Klopp connection is hardly paying handsome dividends. I thought Palmer got through a huge amount of work, but wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as he can be. The step up level will have played a part, he's also only started one other league game in 2017 and he went off in that one after 25 minutes. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 15, 2017 11:38:33 GMT 1
Yes I think his problem has been maintaining the level of performance even during a single game! He had a bit of a blow after about60 minutes last Saturday but pulled it back and was doing the right things up to the end. Lets hope he can keep it going against Newcastle and Southampton - what an opportunity for the lad. Palmer didn't exactly have a poor game but he was a bit less influential than what I remember. Maybe he was a bit overawed by Loftus-Cheek who he must have played second or third fiddle to at Chelsea for a number of years. Thought Loftus-Cheek and the other lad from Man U with the double barrelled name were both excellent for them - good acquisitions. I think we still have a loan left - wonder if we are going to use it? The Klopp connection is hardly paying handsome dividends. I thought Palmer got through a huge amount of work, but wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as he can be. The step up level will have played a part, he's also only started one other league game in 2017 and he went off in that one after 25 minutes. Yes I agree. Just comparing him to that performance against Torino - but obviously only a friendly and far from Premier League reality. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 15, 2017 12:49:30 GMT 1
I thought Palmer got through a huge amount of work, but wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as he can be. The step up level will have played a part, he's also only started one other league game in 2017 and he went off in that one after 25 minutes. Yes I agree. Just comparing him to that performance against Torino - but obviously only a friendly and far from Premier League reality. There's a different dynamic with Mounié up top. Last season we needed the number 10 to push forward to help Wells; now we can knock balls towards Mounié and look for lay-offs (or he'll score on his own). |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 15, 2017 14:10:02 GMT 1
Yes I agree. Just comparing him to that performance against Torino - but obviously only a friendly and far from Premier League reality. There's a different dynamic with Mounié up top. Last season we needed the number 10 to push forward to help Wells; now we can knock balls towards Mounié and look for lay-offs (or he'll score on his own). True enough I hadn't thought of that - you are right Mounié must influence the role of the number 10. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 15, 2017 14:31:31 GMT 1
Did anyone else see Tommy Smith give him a bit of a roasting on Saturday? He did something a little bit loose resulting in them getting a good chance/break-away if I remember. When Tommy caught up with him he appeared to give him some right verbals. Billy just nodded his head and took it. Certainly did. He sliced a ball on the edge of the box straight to them leaving Zaha one on one with the already booked captain. Held a single finger up - perhaps saying you e made one mistake, don't make another (he didn't). Could (and maybe should) have been costly but we got away with a 2nd booking for Smith's grappling (which created enough time for Löwe to make the last ditch challenge). Excellent player is Billing (and most definitely not going to end up at Bury) but his lapses tend to err on the catastrophic side. Billing tends to stand out probably due to his height and previously his hair, so I believe his errors are magnified more and this probably leads to the divided opinion of him by some on here, but IMO he is no different to any other Town player in that he has the ability to be excellent and also have a horror moment. Löwe was generally excellent, the tracking back to cover Zaha as you mentioned and his neat footwork plus the inside the fullback pass to release Mooy to cross for our second was sublime but his miscontrol that allowed Zaha away late in the first half could have been as similarly catastrophic as Billing's slice. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 15, 2017 14:49:35 GMT 1
Certainly did. He sliced a ball on the edge of the box straight to them leaving Zaha one on one with the already booked captain. Held a single finger up - perhaps saying you e made one mistake, don't make another (he didn't). Could (and maybe should) have been costly but we got away with a 2nd booking for Smith's grappling (which created enough time for Löwe to make the last ditch challenge). Excellent player is Billing (and most definitely not going to end up at Bury) but his lapses tend to err on the catastrophic side. Billing tends to stand out probably due to his height and previously his hair, so I believe his errors are magnified more and this probably leads to the divided opinion of him by some on here, but IMO he is no different to any other Town player in that he has the ability to be excellent and also have a horror moment. Löwe was generally excellent, the tracking back to cover Zaha as you mentioned and his neat footwork plus the inside the fullback pass to release Mooy to cross for our second was sublime but his miscontrol that allowed Zaha away late in the first half could have been as similarly catastrophic as Billing's slice. Aye, good point. Lowe's was a slip though while Billing just took a really poor option (trying a wonder ball instead of shooting or retaining possession). Still think Billing is a great talent like. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 15, 2017 14:51:40 GMT 1
Certainly did. He sliced a ball on the edge of the box straight to them leaving Zaha one on one with the already booked captain. Held a single finger up - perhaps saying you e made one mistake, don't make another (he didn't). Could (and maybe should) have been costly but we got away with a 2nd booking for Smith's grappling (which created enough time for Löwe to make the last ditch challenge). Excellent player is Billing (and most definitely not going to end up at Bury) but his lapses tend to err on the catastrophic side. Billing tends to stand out probably due to his height and previously his hair, so I believe his errors are magnified more and this probably leads to the divided opinion of him by some on here, but IMO he is no different to any other Town player in that he has the ability to be excellent and also have a horror moment. Löwe was generally excellent, the tracking back to cover Zaha as you mentioned and his neat footwork plus the inside the fullback pass to release Mooy to cross for our second was sublime but his miscontrol that allowed Zaha away late in the first half could have been as similarly catastrophic as Billing's slice. Aye they all make mistakes at all levels, and Billing does stand out because of his height. I've never been sure if he is quick or slow. He will run into problems with refs with those long dangly legs in tackles when he stretches out. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 15, 2017 15:25:00 GMT 1
Billing tends to stand out probably due to his height and previously his hair, so I believe his errors are magnified more and this probably leads to the divided opinion of him by some on here, but IMO he is no different to any other Town player in that he has the ability to be excellent and also have a horror moment. Löwe was generally excellent, the tracking back to cover Zaha as you mentioned and his neat footwork plus the inside the fullback pass to release Mooy to cross for our second was sublime but his miscontrol that allowed Zaha away late in the first half could have been as similarly catastrophic as Billing's slice. Aye they all make mistakes at all levels, and Billing does stand out because of his height. I've never been sure if he is quick or slow. He will run into problems with refs with those long dangly legs in tackles when he stretches out. He got sent off for a foul pretty much nobody else could commit. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 15, 2017 15:49:05 GMT 1
Aye they all make mistakes at all levels, and Billing does stand out because of his height. I've never been sure if he is quick or slow. He will run into problems with refs with those long dangly legs in tackles when he stretches out. He got sent off for a foul pretty much nobody else could commit. Yes at MK Dons - exactly - going to have to be careful with that in the PL. Better off staying on his feet - but must admit I enjoy a good sliding tackle like those that Mooy and Loewe did. |
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Post by penninemist on Aug 15, 2017 17:37:03 GMT 1
He was excellent at Palace, hope he can keep that standard of performance up this season, he'll be playing for Denmark at next summers world cup if he does.
Imagine 3 Town players all in the Denmark first 11, I'll chucking my England shirt out!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 20:34:10 GMT 1
Siggurdson to Everton for £45m. Hope no one comes in big for PB.
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Post by RickDangerous on Aug 16, 2017 10:55:43 GMT 1
Siggurdson to Everton for £45m. Hope no one comes in big for PB. True, he did look good on Saturday. If he pops a rocket in the top corner like the Cardiff/Forest strikes his value is going to rocket. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 16, 2017 11:13:21 GMT 1
Siggurdson to Everton for £45m. Hope no one comes in big for PB. True, he did look good on Saturday. If he pops a rocket in the top corner like the Cardiff/Forest strikes his value is going to rocket. He does strike a long shot really cleanly even the one in the first half straight at Hennessey, he couldn't have connected any sweeter. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 11:21:15 GMT 1
Agreed both. Will be happy to see this window close. Even though PB is raw (and inconsistent yet) he's the sort of olyer who could draw big money with his age, touch passing but yes let's hope he saves a couple of thunderbolts for the back end of the season when we really need em...to nail down the champions league place.😂
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Post by AndySk on Aug 21, 2017 0:03:41 GMT 1
Bury are gonna have a right player on their hands
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 9:38:14 GMT 1
Thought he had another very good game yesterday. Broke up play, got through a huge amount of work and used the ball well.
Very early days yet, but he's looking the part in the PL and has clearly upped his game. Just hope he can do it on a consistent basis.
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Post by hudmat on Dec 6, 2017 1:05:24 GMT 1
Think we miss him. Having him and Mooy behind Palmer, Ince and VLP would surely see us score more goals. When's he back?
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 6, 2017 7:16:42 GMT 1
Think we miss him. Having him and Mooy behind Palmer, Ince and VLP would surely see us score more goals. When's he back? According to his Twitter "soon". Not sure if that means he's back in training and ready before the end of the year, but that would be my guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 10:06:00 GMT 1
Think we miss him. Having him and Mooy behind Palmer, Ince and VLP would surely see us score more goals. When's he back? We probably will miss him again very soon as he is sadly made of glass. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 11:03:29 GMT 1
Think we miss him. Having him and Mooy behind Palmer, Ince and VLP would surely see us score more goals. When's he back? We probably will miss him again very soon as he is sadly made of glass. Keep sending out those positive vibes.  Forget the glass, the boy has class. |
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Post by terriers321 on Dec 6, 2017 11:16:52 GMT 1
You would have Billing above Hogg?
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Post by detox on Dec 6, 2017 11:23:01 GMT 1
You would have Billing above Hogg? Hogg is 5ft 8", Billing is 8ft 5" .... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 11:27:40 GMT 1
You would have Billing above Hogg? It's not that simple. Different players for different situations. Different options, like pieces on a chessboard. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Dec 6, 2017 11:32:48 GMT 1
You would have Billing above Hogg? Depends who is playing. They always have their best games when not playing, so Billing is currently the better player, but once he is picked, and Hogg is on the bench, then of course, we missed Hogg. DATM fact😀 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 12:07:26 GMT 1
We probably will miss him again very soon as he is sadly made of glass. Keep sending out those positive vibes. Forget the glass, the boy has class. Not arguing about him bein class but as I posted sadly!!!! he is made of glass..A real shame but it is true. |
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