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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 20, 2019 9:36:06 GMT 1
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 9:36:35 GMT 1
I'm getting older, the travelling is getting to me now, and I'm on the verge of moving even further away from Huddersfield. Like I said, another season of the kind of fare served up so far would have pushed me over the edge. And the thing about the turgid rubbish under Wadsworth, Powell, Robins, et alia, not disputing that but at least we scored goals and had belief that we might actually win some games. This season I have had absolutely no confidence in either the players or the manager to be able to turn things around. Again, my honest opinion which, I know, is highly unpopular on here. It's your prerogative and I doubt I'd travel so far for a repeat of what it has felt like after Brighton, but you do come across a bit short sighted. "Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... |
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Post by dugnet on Jan 20, 2019 9:50:14 GMT 1
It's your prerogative and I doubt I'd travel so far for a repeat of what it has felt like after Brighton, but you do come across a bit short sighted. "Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... You were right but to be fair to those who "derided" you back at the end of November we looked like a team short of 2 quality players away from staying in this league. We lose Mooy and a perfect storm has ensued. I cannot fathom, not you per se , why people revel in the "I told you so" position? They'd rather Town struggle and be able to say they are/were right. I think we are now in a really difficult position to really predict what may happen now and anyone who didn't buy a season ticket ad a result would make sense. To be honest I am not one of these who thinks that you are any more of a Town fan if you go or not, if you are a fan you are fan. There are many reasons why you may not attend games. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 10:07:19 GMT 1
Not in anyway proud to be able to say "I told you so" and i did write that at the time.
I would far rather that I had been wrong on every count, but it was so obvious that we weren't/aren't good enough and certainly not good enough in ANY attacking sense.
Got to hope now that we get someone in who will change this, be it now or next season because otherwise it will be carnage at the turnstiles.
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Post by htfcsince70 on Jan 20, 2019 10:24:48 GMT 1
I've been there since 1970-71 and will, god willing, be back next season. It isn't the league we are playing in or even the price of season tickets that will put me off - it's the bloody parking! I've payed for Canalside this year but that option has gone - I used to love the long walk down the hill by the Kilner Bank until the parking permits were introduced which I could fully understand. Where the heck do people park!!
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Post by terrierpark on Jan 20, 2019 10:25:55 GMT 1
"Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... You were right but to be fair to those who "derided" you back at the end of November we looked like a team short of 2 quality players away from staying in this league. We lose Mooy and a perfect storm has ensued. I cannot fathom, not you per se , why people revel in the "I told you so" position? They'd rather Town struggle and be able to say they are/were right. I think we are now in a really difficult position to really predict what may happen now and anyone who didn't buy a season ticket ad a result would make sense. To be honest I am not one of these who thinks that you are any more of a Town fan if you go or not, if you are a fan you are fan. There are many reasons why you may not attend games. The way i see it this season has divided opinions more than ever in the stands and on here. The traditional happy clapper wont hear a bad word said should be dining from the humble pie and having seconds. A catastrophically awful season which was AVOIDABLE in my opinion. Before i renew i want to see us not sleep walking as promised and a product worth watching and investing in emotionally. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jan 20, 2019 10:31:58 GMT 1
It's your prerogative and I doubt I'd travel so far for a repeat of what it has felt like after Brighton, but you do come across a bit short sighted. "Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... Come on, though - be honest - did you change your mind temporarily after we'd beaten Wolves (and that wasn't just the result, it was the whole manner of the win)? That was one heck of a prediction if it came following our win at Wolves! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 10:38:46 GMT 1
Why would anyone want there to be fewer fans there next season (losing “plastic” fans)? Surely you want as many as possible to maintain the atmosphere. Or is it a pissing contest to see who can stay as a fan under the worst conditions? Get over yourselves, and if you know of someone giving up their SC, find a mate to take it up. You will still have the ego trip of having had the SC for longer. Shorter queues at the bar. Less likely to be sat next to a complete weapon.  More likely to be an empty seat, somewhere to put your flask. Can't see hem putting out clappers to a half empty ground so there is an upside. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 10:44:45 GMT 1
I've been there since 1970-71 and will, god willing, be back next season. It isn't the league we are playing in or even the price of season tickets that will put me off - it's the bloody parking! I've payed for Canalside this year but that option has gone - I used to love the long walk down the hill by the Kilner Bank until the parking permits were introduced which I could fully understand. Where the heck do people park!! Fartown / Birkby for free. Always get a spot walk down through railway arches, takes about 15 minutes and get away pretty quick . Magic Rock and Slubbers if you want a pint, or Yorkshire Rose if that is your thing. I can leave my house in Brighouse at 2.15 and be in ground for kick off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 10:45:50 GMT 1
I've been there since 1970-71 and will, god willing, be back next season. It isn't the league we are playing in or even the price of season tickets that will put me off - it's the bloody parking! I've payed for Canalside this year but that option has gone - I used to love the long walk down the hill by the Kilner Bank until the parking permits were introduced which I could fully understand. Where the heck do people park!! Fartown / Birkby for free. Always get a spot walk down through railway arches, takes about 15 minutes and get away pretty quick . Magic Rock and Slubbers if you want a pint, or Yorkshire Rose if that is your thing. I can leave my house in Brighouse at 2.15 and be in ground for kick off. 3 o'clock not night match! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 20, 2019 10:53:51 GMT 1
"Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... You were right but to be fair to those who "derided" you back at the end of November we looked like a team short of 2 quality players away from staying in this league. We lose Mooy and a perfect storm has ensued. I cannot fathom, not you per se , why people revel in the "I told you so" position? They'd rather Town struggle and be able to say they are/were right. I think we are now in a really difficult position to really predict what may happen now and anyone who didn't buy a season ticket ad a result would make sense. To be honest I am not one of these who thinks that you are any more of a Town fan if you go or not, if you are a fan you are fan. There are many reasons why you may not attend games. This is what I found strange about the ultra positive fans when certain posters are derided for being 'negative' by them. A lot of people could see what has happened this season a mile off, I said to my mate even before a ball was kicked that we'd struggle big time, the goals just weren't there. I honestly think some fans think we take pleasure in Town struggling or being proved right, we really don't, but blind positivity just papers over the cracks, see the reality. |
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Post by htfcsince70 on Jan 20, 2019 11:06:45 GMT 1
I've been there since 1970-71 and will, god willing, be back next season. It isn't the league we are playing in or even the price of season tickets that will put me off - it's the bloody parking! I've payed for Canalside this year but that option has gone - I used to love the long walk down the hill by the Kilner Bank until the parking permits were introduced which I could fully understand. Where the heck do people park!! Fartown / Birkby for free. Always get a spot walk down through railway arches, takes about 15 minutes and get away pretty quick . Magic Rock and Slubbers if you want a pint, or Yorkshire Rose if that is your thing. I can leave my house in Brighouse at 2.15 and be in ground for kick off. Thank you - much appreciated. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 11:22:00 GMT 1
You were right but to be fair to those who "derided" you back at the end of November we looked like a team short of 2 quality players away from staying in this league. We lose Mooy and a perfect storm has ensued. I cannot fathom, not you per se , why people revel in the "I told you so" position? They'd rather Town struggle and be able to say they are/were right. I think we are now in a really difficult position to really predict what may happen now and anyone who didn't buy a season ticket ad a result would make sense. To be honest I am not one of these who thinks that you are any more of a Town fan if you go or not, if you are a fan you are fan. There are many reasons why you may not attend games. This is what I found strange about the ultra positive fans when certain posters are derided for being 'negative' by them. A lot of people could see what has happened this season a mile off, I said to my mate even before a ball was kicked that we'd struggle big time, the goals just weren't there. I honestly think some fans think we take pleasure in Town struggling or being proved right, we really don't, but blind positivity just papers over the cracks, see the reality. What’s annoying is that you lot think you’ve shown some sort of incredible football knowledge when you were just pointing out the bleeding obvious. You took the happy clappers at face value- thinking they all genuinely robustly believed we’d finish mid table- WE DIDNT EVER THINK THAT REALLY. We just made a decision to get behind the club and the team no matter what. No matter how obvious it was we wouldn’t get enough wins. We would not join the dissenters, the nay sayers or the half time leavers or 70 minute mass exodus men. This is not because we genuinely believed we’d stay up it’s because staying positive was the only thing that could help the team in any tiny way. In the end it hasn’t helped but endless spouting of your oh so wonderfully insightful ‘reality’ has just caused a lot of negativity and division amongst the fans and it’s even spilled onto the stands. It’s really tragic that you actually believe we thought we’d stay up. No mate, we were just supporting the team irrespective of the likelihood of failure. You could see a that a team that scores the lowest goals 2 seasons running was going to struggle this season. WOW. Can you tell me next week’s lottery numbers too then please...you’re like a modern day Nostradamus. FUCK ME RIGID |
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Post by artysid on Jan 20, 2019 11:22:50 GMT 1
I've been there since 1970-71 and will, god willing, be back next season. It isn't the league we are playing in or even the price of season tickets that will put me off - it's the bloody parking! I've payed for Canalside this year but that option has gone - I used to love the long walk down the hill by the Kilner Bank until the parking permits were introduced which I could fully understand. Where the heck do people park!! Fartown / Birkby for free. Always get a spot walk down through railway arches, takes about 15 minutes and get away pretty quick . Magic Rock and Slubbers if you want a pint, or Yorkshire Rose if that is your thing. I can leave my house in Brighouse at 2.15 and be in ground for kick off.Not today |
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Post by impact on Jan 20, 2019 11:26:09 GMT 1
It's your prerogative and I doubt I'd travel so far for a repeat of what it has felt like after Brighton, but you do come across a bit short sighted. "Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... With half decent refs we'd have won 2 of those. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 20, 2019 11:29:06 GMT 1
This is what I found strange about the ultra positive fans when certain posters are derided for being 'negative' by them. A lot of people could see what has happened this season a mile off, I said to my mate even before a ball was kicked that we'd struggle big time, the goals just weren't there. I honestly think some fans think we take pleasure in Town struggling or being proved right, we really don't, but blind positivity just papers over the cracks, see the reality. What’s annoying is that you lot think you’ve shown some sort of incredible football knowledge when you were just pointing out the bleeding obvious. You took the happy clappers at face value- thinking they all genuinely robustly believed we’d finish mid table- WE DIDNT EVER THINK THAT REALLY. We just made a decision to get behind the club and the team no matter what. No matter how obvious it was we wouldn’t get enough wins. We would not join the dissenters, the nay sayers or the half time leavers or 70 minute mass exodus men. This is not because we genuinely believed we’d stay up it’s because staying positive was the only thing that could help the team in any tiny way. In the end it hasn’t helped but endless spouting of your oh so wonderfully insightful ‘reality’ has just caused a lot of negativity and division amongst the fans and it’s even spilled onto the stands. It’s really tragic that you actually believe we thought we’d stay up. No mate, we were just supporting the team irrespective of the likelihood of failure. You could see a that a team that scores the lowest goals 2 seasons running was going to struggle this season. WOW. Can you tell me next week’s lottery numbers too then please...you’re like a modern day Nostradamus. FUCK ME RIGID What an over reaction. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 20, 2019 11:42:46 GMT 1
This is what I found strange about the ultra positive fans when certain posters are derided for being 'negative' by them. A lot of people could see what has happened this season a mile off, I said to my mate even before a ball was kicked that we'd struggle big time, the goals just weren't there. I honestly think some fans think we take pleasure in Town struggling or being proved right, we really don't, but blind positivity just papers over the cracks, see the reality. What’s annoying is that you lot think you’ve shown some sort of incredible football knowledge when you were just pointing out the bleeding obvious. You took the happy clappers at face value- thinking they all genuinely robustly believed we’d finish mid table- WE DIDNT EVER THINK THAT REALLY. We just made a decision to get behind the club and the team no matter what. No matter how obvious it was we wouldn’t get enough wins. We would not join the dissenters, the nay sayers or the half time leavers or 70 minute mass exodus men. This is not because we genuinely believed we’d stay up it’s because staying positive was the only thing that could help the team in any tiny way. In the end it hasn’t helped but endless spouting of your oh so wonderfully insightful ‘reality’ has just caused a lot of negativity and division amongst the fans and it’s even spilled onto the stands. It’s really tragic that you actually believe we thought we’d stay up. No mate, we were just supporting the team irrespective of the likelihood of failure. You could see a that a team that scores the lowest goals 2 seasons running was going to struggle this season. WOW. Can you tell me next week’s lottery numbers too then please...you’re like a modern day Nostradamus. FUCK ME RIGID Not trying to be funny but if I'm pointing out the bleeding obvious why can't you, Wagner and Hoyle not bloody see that? Not trying to insult your intelligence or anything but if it's as plain as your nose, why argue to the contrary? |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 11:57:38 GMT 1
"Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... Come on, though - be honest - did you change your mind temporarily after we'd beaten Wolves (and that wasn't just the result, it was the whole manner of the win)? That was one heck of a prediction if it came following our win at Wolves! Can't be bothered to trawl the thread whuch included a poll about how many points we'd get in December, but that's where I put my prediction, and I assure you that it WAS after the Wolves win. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:00:09 GMT 1
What’s annoying is that you lot think you’ve shown some sort of incredible football knowledge when you were just pointing out the bleeding obvious. You took the happy clappers at face value- thinking they all genuinely robustly believed we’d finish mid table- WE DIDNT EVER THINK THAT REALLY. We just made a decision to get behind the club and the team no matter what. No matter how obvious it was we wouldn’t get enough wins. We would not join the dissenters, the nay sayers or the half time leavers or 70 minute mass exodus men. This is not because we genuinely believed we’d stay up it’s because staying positive was the only thing that could help the team in any tiny way. In the end it hasn’t helped but endless spouting of your oh so wonderfully insightful ‘reality’ has just caused a lot of negativity and division amongst the fans and it’s even spilled onto the stands. It’s really tragic that you actually believe we thought we’d stay up. No mate, we were just supporting the team irrespective of the likelihood of failure. You could see a that a team that scores the lowest goals 2 seasons running was going to struggle this season. WOW. Can you tell me next week’s lottery numbers too then please...you’re like a modern day Nostradamus. FUCK ME RIGID Not trying to be funny but if I'm pointing out the bleeding obvious why can't you, Wagner and Hoyle not bloody see that? Not trying to insult your intelligence or anything but if it's as plain as your nose, why argue to the contrary? I’ve answered that above: “staying positive was the only thing that could help the team in any tiny way.” God you actually believe you are some kind of expert. Trust me you’re not. Stating the bleeding obvious in a morose way all season has just spread the negativity making it an even less enjoyable season than the results dictated. It’s been toxic on here. Stating the obvious enlightens no one and achieves nothing. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 12:00:51 GMT 1
"Short-sighted"? Perhaps, but remember that I was the one who said right back at the end of November that we wouldn't beat any of Fulham, Burnley or Cardiff. Everybody laughed and derided that opinion... With half decent refs we'd have won 2 of those. But this doesn't wash Impact. With half decent refs lots of games would finish differently. You can't factor in ifs and buts - the only stats that count are in the league table, and that doesn't lie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:02:03 GMT 1
What’s annoying is that you lot think you’ve shown some sort of incredible football knowledge when you were just pointing out the bleeding obvious. You took the happy clappers at face value- thinking they all genuinely robustly believed we’d finish mid table- WE DIDNT EVER THINK THAT REALLY. We just made a decision to get behind the club and the team no matter what. No matter how obvious it was we wouldn’t get enough wins. We would not join the dissenters, the nay sayers or the half time leavers or 70 minute mass exodus men. This is not because we genuinely believed we’d stay up it’s because staying positive was the only thing that could help the team in any tiny way. In the end it hasn’t helped but endless spouting of your oh so wonderfully insightful ‘reality’ has just caused a lot of negativity and division amongst the fans and it’s even spilled onto the stands. It’s really tragic that you actually believe we thought we’d stay up. No mate, we were just supporting the team irrespective of the likelihood of failure. You could see a that a team that scores the lowest goals 2 seasons running was going to struggle this season. WOW. Can you tell me next week’s lottery numbers too then please...you’re like a modern day Nostradamus. FUCK ME RIGID What an over reaction. Have you got anything to say for yourself Ben or just shitty little commentaries? It’s a football forum for opinions. |
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Post by impact on Jan 20, 2019 12:03:32 GMT 1
With half decent refs we'd have won 2 of those. But this doesn't wash Impact. With half decent refs lots of games would finish differently. You can't factor in ifs and buts - the only stats that count are in the league table, and that doesn't lie. In those 2 games you can. Definitely Cardiff with 1 of the worst "decisions" I've ever seen. I'd certainly rather do that than come on here all high and mighty for predicting us to lose. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 20, 2019 12:07:12 GMT 1
Have you got anything to say for yourself Ben or just shitty little commentaries? It’s a football forum for opinions. Aye, it is. One which you over reacted to. |
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Post by conman on Jan 20, 2019 12:09:27 GMT 1
Actually, there may be cross wires here. Apologies. I got the impression you were moaning, when you are potentially just stating facts. Maybe 25% moaning, 25% surprised, and 50% stating facts.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:10:29 GMT 1
Have you got anything to say for yourself Ben or just shitty little commentaries? It’s a football forum for opinions. ....but I thought you didn’t want to read realistic opinion,, you just want to get behind the team...whilst implying those who come out and discuss their opinion somehow don’t get behind the team. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 20, 2019 12:17:49 GMT 1
But this doesn't wash Impact. With half decent refs lots of games would finish differently. You can't factor in ifs and buts - the only stats that count are in the league table, and that doesn't lie. In those 2 games you can. Definitely Cardiff with 1 of the worst "decisions" I've ever seen. I'd certainly rather do that than come on here all high and mighty for predicting us to lose. Not acting "high and mighty" - justvstated an opinion in response to someone who said we'd beat all three. This is what really pisses me off about this site; anyone with an opinion which doesn't toe the party line is deemed to be not a true fan. I think that 51 years service - and all but 4 of those from miles outside the locality - permit me to have an opinion. You might not like it, but I don't tell you what to think or what to type. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:22:36 GMT 1
Have you got anything to say for yourself Ben or just shitty little commentaries? It’s a football forum for opinions. Aye, it is. One which you over reacted to. So that’s a no then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:27:51 GMT 1
In those 2 games you can. Definitely Cardiff with 1 of the worst "decisions" I've ever seen. I'd certainly rather do that than come on here all high and mighty for predicting us to lose. Not acting "high and mighty" - justvstated an opinion in response to someone who said we'd beat all three. This is what really pisses me off about this site; anyone with an opinion which doesn't toe the party line is deemed to be not a true fan. I think that 51 years service - and all but 4 of those from miles outside the locality - permit me to have an opinion. You might not like it, but I don't tell you what to think or what to type. Save your breath, Rog. There's no telling some people on here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:28:33 GMT 1
Have you got anything to say for yourself Ben or just shitty little commentaries? It’s a football forum for opinions. ....but I thought you didn’t want to read realistic opinion,, you just want to get behind the team...whilst implying those who come out and discuss their opinion somehow don’t get behind the team. 🤷♂️ Yeah I think it’s going over your head a bit. Craig understands and explains well below. kongolo said: craigatthemac said:Gee mate, I wouldn’t want you on any team of mine with an attitude like that. We might very well go down, but you are never down until it’s mathematical. Shit attitude. See the post above yours. It's about being realistic And everyone now calling me negative in this thread are the same ones saying Wagner was doing an outstanding job and no one we bring in will do better. Yet all of a sudden they're calling me negative for saying we can't turn it around. HYPOCREEEETS I was calling out performances too, so don’t go try pulling that shit on me. I didn’t call your attitude negative, I called your attitude out for giving up. People who are realistic have never achieved greatness. People who are realistic don’t find ways to solutions. People who dream and never give up achieve greatness. Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/user/14851/recent#ixzz5d97bh8ob |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 20, 2019 12:59:18 GMT 1
Actually, there may be cross wires here. Apologies. I got the impression you were moaning, when you are potentially just stating facts. Maybe 25% moaning, 25% surprised, and 50% stating facts.. Ok. I just find it odd that when the price is made affordable for nearly all, you expect a further discount. I bet your price is still cheaper than the discounted ones elsewhere. That's especially now pensioners aren't generally the ones who struggle to afford. Many pensioners gain from final salary pensions, not being saddled with debt due to buying before the housing boom etc. Young families are probably more frequently tight for cash now and may be looking at 3 or 4 tickets. NB - I am not saying some pensioners won't struggle, just times have changed and they are no longer the poorest demographic. |
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