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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 8:38:51 GMT 1
I wonder if Frank retired every time he got called Frank . "Hey Frank , loved the gig tonight " "That's it I'm off .. see you in two days " Two days later "Live at the Las Vegas bowl. For one night only (or until someone calls him Frank)" "Ladies and gentlemen Mr HANK SINITA " Don’t you think it would be a bit strange If you were involved in a conversation with Cliff Richard and you called him Harry? It all seems very odd that some anonymous people who have no idea who I am insist on continuously referring to me by a name I’ve not ever linked with my existence on here. Bit stalkerish to be honest Francis. A learn to laugh at yourself.. if you had done that originally things would have been different B if Cliff had come on here saying "hi my names harry " and people called him harry consistently for a period of time , then he decided he didn't want to be called harry anymore, to the extent that he ran off every time someone called him harry , then I'm sure everyone would be calling him harry Hope this clears it up |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:44:53 GMT 1
Don’t you think it would be a bit strange If you were involved in a conversation with Cliff Richard and you called him Harry? It all seems very odd that some anonymous people who have no idea who I am insist on continuously referring to me by a name I’ve not ever linked with my existence on here. Bit stalkerish to be honest Francis. A learn to laugh at yourself.. if you had done that originally things would have been different B if Cliff had come on here saying "hi my names harry " and people called him harry consistently for a period of time , then he decided he didn't want to be called harry anymore, to the extent that he ran off every time someone called him harry , then I'm sure everyone would be calling him harry Hope this clears it up I can assure you I laugh at myself on a regular basis. I have reasons I’m not prepared to discuss as to why I don’t want content I might contribute on here linked with my “real life”, sharing an unshared name is part way towards being able to make that link. Would you happily post my surname too?? You’ve been asked not to do so multiple times, why not just comply instead of acting like a dick, and then I wouldn’t feel a need to delete my account in the first place. You are posting under a pseudonym anonymously, why not allow the same courtesy to others? |
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Post by townatheart on Jul 16, 2019 8:49:07 GMT 1
Hamer had a really good preseason last summer and made some excellent saves in the friendlies. Wagner picked him for the start of the season because of this, but people were on his back straight away, because the beloved Lossl was dropped. The same Lossl who couldn't wait to jump ship. I think the criticism by many, really affected Hamer's confidence. I'm sure he is a decent keeper, but needs away to resurrect his career and find a bit of self belief. Disagree. Hamer didn’t stand outlast summer. Lossl was not given game time in pre season either because of his contractual situation, OR because he’d had a late start due to the World Cup.
It was obvious in the first couple of games of competitive football that Hamer was out of his depth at that level, where we knew Lossl wasn’t/isn’t. As I recall you are closer to the facts at the time, however, I do recall comments from back then that Hamer did have a very strong and impressive pre-season, so perhaps a bit of both. In any event, the net result was fairly obvious to all but those in need of a trip to Spec Savers. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 8:52:25 GMT 1
A learn to laugh at yourself.. if you had done that originally things would have been different B if Cliff had come on here saying "hi my names harry " and people called him harry consistently for a period of time , then he decided he didn't want to be called harry anymore, to the extent that he ran off every time someone called him harry , then I'm sure everyone would be calling him harry Hope this clears it up I can assure you I laugh at myself on a regular basis. I have reasons I’m not prepared to discuss as to why I don’t want content I might contribute on here linked with my “real life”, sharing an unshared name is part way towards being able to make that link. Would you happily post my surname too?? You’ve been asked not to do so multiple times, why not just comply instead of acting like a dick, and then I wouldn’t feel a need to delete my account in the first place. A My post was about Frank Sinatra so I think you're aiming your ire in the wrong direction B I dont know you and have no idea whether your name is Nigel or not. C IF you think everyone doesn't know all these posts about Company House etc aren't the posts of the ever more mysterious "Nigel " then you're delusional beyond words D If you wanted me to stop calling you "Nigel" calling me a Dick wasn't the best way to go about it E IF you think the way to douse this out of control forest fire is to respond to it then delete your account then come back under another name I'd suggest that also isn't the best way to go about it |
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Post by iangreaves on Jul 16, 2019 9:12:01 GMT 1
From what I’ve seen reported, there seems to be a little bitterness towards Wagner. Asked about doing things differently in the Premier League next time, he said we certainly wouldn’t buy 4 wingers then not play with wingers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 9:23:10 GMT 1
From what I’ve seen reported, there seems to be a little bitterness towards Wagner. Asked about doing things differently in the Premier League next time, he said we certainly wouldn’t buy 4 wingers then not play with wingers. It was a massive waste of club resources that. Wagner went to the formation without to be more solid yet we still lost games, just didn’t get hammered often. Ah well... onwards and upwards! |
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Post by buckers on Jul 16, 2019 9:35:00 GMT 1
From what I’ve seen reported, there seems to be a little bitterness towards Wagner. Asked about doing things differently in the Premier League next time, he said we certainly wouldn’t buy 4 wingers then not play with wingers. He’s got a point. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 16, 2019 9:35:25 GMT 1
PH - “where are the difficult questions? I see them on computer screens but I’m not hearing any” 😂😂 🎣🎣 Hopefully he’ll grow on me 🤣 One thing I would question is where he has said the two players won’t be involved in first team football at Hudds Town, hasn’t he just given them go ahead to walk out of their contracts on “sporting just cause” grounds and have any fee set by a tribunal? Exceptional irony, Nigel. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 9:41:33 GMT 1
From what I’ve seen reported, there seems to be a little bitterness towards Wagner. Asked about doing things differently in the Premier League next time, he said we certainly wouldn’t buy 4 wingers then not play with wingers. It was a massive waste of club resources that. Wagner went to the formation without to be more solid yet we still lost games, just didn’t get hammered often. Ah well... onwards and upwards! I think Wagner cost us a huge amount of money in PL2 season and the huge amount of goodwill he'd earned to that point has been somewhat eroded away as not only did he not utilise the resources he'd invested the clubs money in, let's not forget the whopping new contract he negotiated and then reneged on. Add to that, his part in bringing Rebbe to the club, which, again, was a very, very expensive excercise and for whatever reasons, did not work out. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Jul 16, 2019 10:32:19 GMT 1
I like how he seemed to be taking credit for the white seats. The club/KSDL have had these sorted since before last Christmas! Other than that, a very impressive display and I feel very positive about the upcoming season. Just a bit of fact checking. It was HTAFC that bought the seats but Ken and KSDL wouldn't let them be installed. Phil met with the above and got them to agree. So I think he has every right to claim credit! |
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Post by townatheart on Jul 16, 2019 10:59:38 GMT 1
I like how he seemed to be taking credit for the white seats. The club/KSDL have had these sorted since before last Christmas! Other than that, a very impressive display and I feel very positive about the upcoming season. Just a bit of fact checking. It was HTAFC that bought the seats but Ken and KSDL wouldn't let them be installed. Phil met with the above and got them to agree. So I think he has every right to claim credit! And should that be factual, not arguing at all, then another point should be first that PH deserves a little pat on the back  for making the effort, and second, a bigger pat on the back for successfully overcoming the objections of the other two (especially Davy). One small bit of evidence that he likes to succeed.  |
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Post by fran on Jul 16, 2019 11:04:28 GMT 1
From the chairman's statements last night can someone tell me if I got the following correct.
Our beloved chairman DH who is by far the best chairman we have had in my memory and has always said the club would always
live within its means has left us with a 40,000000 plus debt, See the (we have spent 250,000000 and the parachute payment has gone)
the paddy power (they fit our sense of humour) I am sorry but because they have given us some money to advertise for them
that does not mean they can take the piss out of Huddersfield Town and what kind of company would.
I also noticed that the blame game has started Wagner Rebbe Winkler and even tommy smith (hade his head turned)
and why a three window transition. I few porkys in there I think.
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Post by townatheart on Jul 16, 2019 11:11:27 GMT 1
From the chairman's statements last night can someone tell me if I got the following correct. Our beloved chairman DH who is by far the best chairman we have had in my memory and has always said the club would always live within its means has left us with a 40,000000 plus debt, See the (we have spent 250,000000 and the parachute payment has gone) the paddy power (they fit our sense of humour) I am sorry but because they have given us some money to advertise for them that does not mean they can take the piss out of Huddersfield Town and what kind of company would. I also noticed that the blame game has started Wagner Rebbe Winkler and even tommy smith (hade his head turned) and why a three window transition. I few porkys in there I think. Personally I think that you are NOT correct, and perhaps edging towards looking to twist things in a negative/judgemental way. That said, to be fair, there are some elements of your thoughts that I guess some might agree with or understood. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 16, 2019 11:12:50 GMT 1
It was a massive waste of club resources that. Wagner went to the formation without to be more solid yet we still lost games, just didn’t get hammered often. Ah well... onwards and upwards! I think Wagner cost us a huge amount of money in PL2 season and the huge amount of goodwill he'd earned to that point has been somewhat eroded away as not only did he not utilise the resources he'd invested the clubs money in, let's not forget the whopping new contract he negotiated and then reneged on. Add to that, his part in bringing Rebbe to the club, which, again, was a very, very expensive excercise and for whatever reasons, did not work out. So Wagner bought in all the players bar Bacuna and hired Rebbe and despite the fact we have/had a head of recruitment, a head of football ops and a chief exec Wagner hired the lot of them and made all the decisions. Wagner must have been putting in 24 hour days being head coach plus doing all the scouting, hiring staff, doing due dilligence on new players etc. No wonder he was too stressed to carry on. Its amazing the club gave all that responsibility to one man. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 11:17:12 GMT 1
I like how he seemed to be taking credit for the white seats. The club/KSDL have had these sorted since before last Christmas! Other than that, a very impressive display and I feel very positive about the upcoming season. Just a bit of fact checking. It was HTAFC that bought the seats but Ken and KSDL wouldn't let them be installed. Phil met with the above and got them to agree. So I think he has every right to claim credit! Ok Phil, good work, well done  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 11:19:04 GMT 1
Just a bit of fact checking. It was HTAFC that bought the seats but Ken and KSDL wouldn't let them be installed. Phil met with the above and got them to agree. So I think he has every right to claim credit! And should that be factual, not arguing at all, then another point should be first that PH deserves a little pat on the back for making the effort, and second, a bigger pat on the back for successfully overcoming the objections of the other two (especially Davy). One small bit of evidence that he likes to succeed. Fair do's if that's the case. Then, you would have to question who at Town bought the seats without first getting the permission of all parties involved ! Could have been a rather costly purchase ...
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Post by townatheart on Jul 16, 2019 11:23:46 GMT 1
And should that be factual, not arguing at all, then another point should be first that PH deserves a little pat on the back for making the effort, and second, a bigger pat on the back for successfully overcoming the objections of the other two (especially Davy). One small bit of evidence that he likes to succeed. Fair do's if that's the case. Then, you would have to question who at Town bought the seats without first getting the permission of all parties involved ! Could have been a rather costly purchase ...
Perhaps one of those situations where in truth, it was somewhat of an already agreed deal, but it took just a little nudge to get over the line, thus enough to allow PH a little victory. Who knows, I am old and cynical enough to not buy everything they say, or think any of these guys, including DH, are above a bit of shine-ola shall we say.  |
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Post by specialun on Jul 16, 2019 12:05:43 GMT 1
....And not Stankovic who was available and is now seen as a centre half rather than Kongolo who is seen as a left back...? As I put in my original post I’m fully aware the make up of the squad then and now has changed So when Schindler or Elphick get injured etc were saying Stankovic starts at centre half next match? Don’t know where you live specialun but couldn’t you have got down to the cinema last night and asked the questions you wanted? ... clearly not given I didn’t! |
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Post by specialun on Jul 16, 2019 12:14:30 GMT 1
....And not Stankovic who was available and is now seen as a centre half rather than Kongolo who is seen as a left back...? As I put in my original post I’m fully aware the make up of the squad then and now has changed So when Schindler or Elphick get injured etc were saying Stankovic starts at centre half next match? We had Lowe and Durm available to play left back last season, we don't have that option going forward, also they probably expected Kongolo to be snapped up and our CB target was a free agent thus needed to targetted quicker and consequently Kongolo has now become 1st choice LB by default if you like - if he is sold then maybe our LB replacement is under contract so needs to be bidded for. Jaden Brown looked ok in Austria - loan players not getting game time can be misleading see Sean Morrison in his first Town spell. If Schindler or Elphick can't play then it will be Jan's choice to either move Kongolo to CB and play Brown as LB or bring Stankovic in as direct cover. Having the option is surely a good thing. Duhaney, Rowe and Daly made their debuts in the PL, so we shouldn't be afraid of getting odd games from the cover/developing players at Championship level. PH did say he expects a 3 window time period to get Siewert's ideal squad in place (we are about half way through the first) - In the meantime we are in transition, patching up the squad, if you like, until it is shaped into Jan's most desirable one. All fair points / as are grey areas Even just 1 injury (or a bid accepted for any of Kongolo / Schindler / Mooy / Hogg) and that defence and centre mid (if we are playing a central 3 in a 433) both look 1 proven championship player too light As I’ve said elsewhere if playing a 2 in centre mid I’m less concerned about an extra centre mid. Going into the season without an extra defender would be a huge risk imo We got away without any key injuries in the back line / centre mid in the promotion season .... fingers crossed! |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 16, 2019 12:21:18 GMT 1
And should that be factual, not arguing at all, then another point should be first that PH deserves a little pat on the back for making the effort, and second, a bigger pat on the back for successfully overcoming the objections of the other two (especially Davy). One small bit of evidence that he likes to succeed. Fair do's if that's the case. Then, you would have to question who at Town bought the seats without first getting the permission of all parties involved ! Could have been a rather costly purchase ...
Apparently had a second option. Had a backstop deal to sell them to Real Madrid... Leeds were interested, but when it was mentioned they didn't have knuckle guards attached to the bottom they walked away... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 16, 2019 12:22:29 GMT 1
Maybe not the right thread to post this on, but was anything said about DH? How's he doing nowadays, still getting better?
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Post by Maynardblue on Jul 16, 2019 12:49:34 GMT 1
I'm sure its been mentioned already but I thought an important point PH made was that Town would be profitable this season. How many relegated basket cases can say that?
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Post by detox on Jul 16, 2019 13:03:40 GMT 1
are the new seats fitted yet,anyone got a sneak photo...also, will all the old manky pale blue/ grey seats that have been there for 20+ years be replaced too ?
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Post by greyarea on Jul 16, 2019 13:11:55 GMT 1
Maybe not the right thread to post this on, but was anything said about DH? How's he doing nowadays, still getting better? Nothing mentioned directly. When Phil was talking about how transfer targets and transfer decisions are made he described a weekly meeting of himself, Dean Hoyle, Jan Siewert, Josh Marsh and Leigh Bromby where they go through things. Importantly it was made crystal that Siewert had the final say/made the decision on every player who might arrive or leave the club (my only caveat to that is academy signings are probably under leigh Bromby) That was the only mention of Dean apart from Dean's legacy and continuing it. So it seems Dean retains an active role at the club but not the full-time ownership he had before. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Jul 16, 2019 13:15:41 GMT 1
are the new seats fitted yet,anyone got a sneak photo...also, will all the old manky pale blue/ grey seats that have been there for 20+ years be replaced too ? Not yet other than what was already seen at Rugby. They seem to be putting them in in the FM lower currently. There are literally a few random white seats in Riverside lower which I presume are to replace broken ones before they catch up with rest. |
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Post by impact on Jul 16, 2019 13:15:52 GMT 1
We had Lowe and Durm available to play left back last season, we don't have that option going forward, also they probably expected Kongolo to be snapped up and our CB target was a free agent thus needed to targetted quicker and consequently Kongolo has now become 1st choice LB by default if you like - if he is sold then maybe our LB replacement is under contract so needs to be bidded for. Jaden Brown looked ok in Austria - loan players not getting game time can be misleading see Sean Morrison in his first Town spell. If Schindler or Elphick can't play then it will be Jan's choice to either move Kongolo to CB and play Brown as LB or bring Stankovic in as direct cover. Having the option is surely a good thing. Duhaney, Rowe and Daly made their debuts in the PL, so we shouldn't be afraid of getting odd games from the cover/developing players at Championship level. PH did say he expects a 3 window time period to get Siewert's ideal squad in place (we are about half way through the first) - In the meantime we are in transition, patching up the squad, if you like, until it is shaped into Jan's most desirable one. All fair points / as are grey areas Even just 1 injury (or a bid accepted for any of Kongolo / Schindler / Mooy / Hogg) and that defence and centre mid (if we are playing a central 3 in a 433) both look 1 proven championship player too light As I’ve said elsewhere if playing a 2 in centre mid I’m less concerned about an extra centre mid. Going into the season without an extra defender would be a huge risk imo We got away without any key injuries in the back line / centre mid in the promotion season .... fingers crossed! But we also had a lot more cover at the back in the promotion season. Smith, Cranie Hudson, Hefele, Schindler, Stankovic Lowe, THD Stankovic was the only one out of the 8 who hadn't played that much, and he was 4th choice centre half, with Cranie who could also cover. If we assume 8 again, Bockhorn, Flo, Duhaney Schindler, Elphick, Stankovic Kongolo, Brown In that 8, you have 2 young lads who have barely played a senior game, one of whom would be the immediate backup if either a centre half or left back got injured. We have to get a left back in. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 16, 2019 13:23:25 GMT 1
All fair points / as are grey areas Even just 1 injury (or a bid accepted for any of Kongolo / Schindler / Mooy / Hogg) and that defence and centre mid (if we are playing a central 3 in a 433) both look 1 proven championship player too light As I’ve said elsewhere if playing a 2 in centre mid I’m less concerned about an extra centre mid. Going into the season without an extra defender would be a huge risk imo We got away without any key injuries in the back line / centre mid in the promotion season .... fingers crossed! But we also had a lot more cover at the back in the promotion season. Smith, Cranie Hudson, Hefele, Schindler, Stankovic Lowe, THD Stankovic was the only one out of the 8 who hadn't played that much, and he was 4th choice centre half, with Cranie who could also cover. If we assume 8 again, Bockhorn, Flo, Duhaney Schindler, Elphick, Stankovic Kongolo, Brown In that 8, you have 2 young lads who have barely played a senior game, one of whom would be the immediate backup if either a centre half or left back got injured. We have to get a left back in. I think we’ll see another defender in when Zanka goes. A LB might be who we see. |
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Post by Sparrow on Jul 16, 2019 14:24:33 GMT 1
Anyone else think he looks like Andy Morrison?
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Post by crux on Jul 16, 2019 14:35:14 GMT 1
I think Wagner cost us a huge amount of money in PL2 season and the huge amount of goodwill he'd earned to that point has been somewhat eroded away as not only did he not utilise the resources he'd invested the clubs money in, let's not forget the whopping new contract he negotiated and then reneged on. Add to that, his part in bringing Rebbe to the club, which, again, was a very, very expensive excercise and for whatever reasons, did not work out. So Wagner bought in all the players bar Bacuna and hired Rebbe and despite the fact we have/had a head of recruitment, a head of football ops and a chief exec Wagner hired the lot of them and made all the decisions. Wagner must have been putting in 24 hour days being head coach plus doing all the scouting, hiring staff, doing due dilligence on new players etc. No wonder he was too stressed to carry on. Its amazing the club gave all that responsibility to one man. I presume you're just being an arse on purpose to get a reaction, but just for fun I'll bite. What PH confirmed last night was that all the signings made last summer we're made with the involvement of DW and he had the final say. The only player that was signed last summer without his involvement was Bacuna. DW obviously didn't do all the work on the transfers, but it was his ultimate decision to sign all the players except for Bacuna. Every transfer is a gamble, you're usually selecting players based on them being successful with another club, with a different coach, perhaps different system, even a different country and/or language. However, to request wingers/wide-men, OK the transfers of the players and then change the system before giving them a chance to play is not the best use of the clubs limited resources to say the least. |
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Post by impact on Jul 16, 2019 14:48:33 GMT 1
But we also had a lot more cover at the back in the promotion season. Smith, Cranie Hudson, Hefele, Schindler, Stankovic Lowe, THD Stankovic was the only one out of the 8 who hadn't played that much, and he was 4th choice centre half, with Cranie who could also cover. If we assume 8 again, Bockhorn, Flo, Duhaney Schindler, Elphick, Stankovic Kongolo, Brown In that 8, you have 2 young lads who have barely played a senior game, one of whom would be the immediate backup if either a centre half or left back got injured. We have to get a left back in. I think we’ll see another defender in when Zanka goes. A LB might be who we see. And if he doesn't go? |
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