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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 11:33:07 GMT 1
Judging by his record since this joining Town, if we stick with him, we maybe in Division 1, next season, is that long term enough? - UTT. Let me guess you are sat at home posting your comments whilst this self entitled tosser waits for some of his family to join him before going to QPR, and this same self entitled tosser holds six company season tickets came to the Derby match despite it being on telly and drives on average 30k miles per year watching my club. And just so you understand what I am saying I think JS is Fuck—- Crap and not one person on here can state what he has brought to the club in his time because ( and this is so you understand again) he has brought F—-k All He hasn’t brought anything. He upset all the players & undermined the defensive focus and pride we had under Wagner in return for ‘mor wattacking football of which I’ve seen none. He’s just suits phil in his tenure of managed decline of the club. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 10, 2019 11:35:48 GMT 1
I’ve got to be honest, I’m struggling to see what he’s bringing to the table.
The idea behind Siewert was that he built on the identity we had. Instead the gegenpressing has near disappeared, we still don’t get men in the box (see Flo’s cross to nobody on Monday) and it seems the senior pros don’t believe in him.
We need a more inspirational figure, someone who can galvanise the entire club and actually coach the players to become better. This squad should still be in and around the top 10.
It’s probably academic anyway. Unless he gets a big turnaround in results soon I would imagine Phil is going to find his own man with the new DOF they’ve got coming in. Which is probably why we didn’t bother spending anything this week.
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 10, 2019 11:39:53 GMT 1
You make your feeling abundantly clear about Jan Siebert whoever he is but what about Town's manager Jan Siewert? Typo, you are hilarious, not! Typo? The B amd W keys are miles apart. Thanks for the compliment about being hilarious though  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 11:43:27 GMT 1
Judging by his record since this joining Town, if we stick with him, we maybe in Division 1, next season, is that long term enough? - UTT. Let me guess you are sat at home posting your comments whilst this self entitled tosser waits for some of his family to join him before going to QPR, and this same self entitled tosser holds six company season tickets came to the Derby match despite it being on telly and drives on average 30k miles per year watching my club. And just so you understand what I am saying I think JS is Fuck—- Crap and not one person on here can state what he has brought to the club in his time because ( and this is so you understand again) he has brought F—-k All Hey fella given that you're based in Reading - or are you learning to read - hope you're making it to QPR today! |
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 10, 2019 11:53:11 GMT 1
Let me guess you are sat at home posting your comments whilst this self entitled tosser waits for some of his family to join him before going to QPR, and this same self entitled tosser holds six company season tickets came to the Derby match despite it being on telly and drives on average 30k miles per year watching my club. And just so you understand what I am saying I think JS is Fuck—- Crap and not one person on here can state what he has brought to the club in his time because ( and this is so you understand again) he has brought F—-k All Hey fella given that you're based in Reading - or are you learning to read - hope you're making it to QPR today! I will make it, just tell me what it says on your ticket |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 12:03:17 GMT 1
Our manager is highly respected by Klopp and others in Germany especially for his ability to develop young players in their national team. We can have opinions and discuss his suitability for Town, but frankly, there have been some appalling comments here and total disrespect for the man. We’ve got good long term potential with him, but long term means that he needs time, and if we are real supporters we should support Town no matter what, instead of being a bunch of self-entitled tossers like so many fans of other clubs are these days. I’ve been a Town fan for nearly 50 years and I’ll still support them no matter what. I’m excited by the prospect of what JS can do for us long term with the young players that we have and I hope that PH’s patience holds out. agree and that will be the test of ph as well. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 10, 2019 12:06:23 GMT 1
We don't talk about results because Wagner didn't get results with his team. In his last ten games our best result was one 0-0 draw and the games included a team that finished eighth in the Championship and each of the five teams that finished immediately above us in the table. That was with his team with some players he worked with for over three years and rest of the first team he'd had for twelve months and had had success with. How was Siewart supposed to have done better?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 10, 2019 12:09:59 GMT 1
I’m just about to catch the train for my first away game of the season and I’m fed up. No enthusiasm for the afternoon ahead. Something needs to change, and quickly.
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 10, 2019 12:17:30 GMT 1
We don't talk about results because Wagner didn't get results with his team. In his last ten games our best result was one 0-0 draw and the games included a team that finished eighth in the Championship and each of the five teams that finished immediately above us in the table. That was with his team with some players he worked with for over three years and rest of the first team he'd had for twelve months and had had success with. How was Siewart supposed to have done better? Just what am I missing? I am looking for some type of spark something I can leave the ground with thinking we are on the right path. We are not playing the attacking football promised ( did we have a shot on goal in the second half against Derby I mean on goal) will we come out today all guns blazing? I was At Bournemouth last year on a Tuesday night (I think) and every Town fan to a man gave the team a standing ovation when they left the pitch for a brilliant hard working non stop attacking effort ( we still failed to score even with the loads of chances we created) but we all left happy. I have never had this feeling since JS arrived I think we are 4 hours into my post asking anyone to say what he has brought to the club and the silence is deafening. Off to the game now let’s hope for a good result |
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Post by griffa on Aug 10, 2019 12:19:26 GMT 1
Typo, you are hilarious, not! Typo? The B amd W keys are miles apart. Thanks for the compliment about being hilarious though Yer typo! I use a Microsoft Surface! It automatically changes names, words, etc not recognised! - UTT. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 10, 2019 12:24:10 GMT 1
I’m just about to catch the train for my first away game of the season and I’m fed up. No enthusiasm for the afternoon ahead. Something needs to change, and quickly. Good look with that, I am just about to fire up the DB9 and go to golf. Hottest day of the year today at 97 (36c) UTT |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 12:28:21 GMT 1
We don't talk about results because Wagner didn't get results with his team. In his last ten games our best result was one 0-0 draw and the games included a team that finished eighth in the Championship and each of the five teams that finished immediately above us in the table. That was with his team with some players he worked with for over three years and rest of the first team he'd had for twelve months and had had success with. How was Siewart supposed to have done better? Just what am I missing? I am looking for some type of spark something I can leave the ground with thinking we are on the right path. We are not playing the attacking football promised ( did we have a shot on goal in the second half against Derby I mean on goal) will we come out today all guns blazing? I was At Bournemouth last year on a Tuesday night (I think) and every Town fan to a man gave the team a standing ovation when they left the pitch for a brilliant hard working non stop attacking effort ( we still failed to score even with the loads of chances we created) but we all left happy. I have never had this feeling since JS arrived I think we are 4 hours into my post asking anyone to say what he has brought to the club and the silence is deafening. Off to the game now let’s hope for a good result Herbert Bockhorn |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 10, 2019 12:30:48 GMT 1
I’m just about to catch the train for my first away game of the season and I’m fed up. No enthusiasm for the afternoon ahead. Something needs to change, and quickly. Good look with that, I am just about to fire up the DB9 and go to golf. Hottest day of the year today at 97 (36c) UTT That’s exactly what cars like the DB9 should be used for. Did lots of cruising round the Yorkshire Dales last weekend - it was fun. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 12:32:28 GMT 1
Hey fella given that you're based in Reading - or are you learning to read - hope you're making it to QPR today! I will make it, just tell me what it says on your ticket Upper gold ;-) |
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Post by aideybabes on Aug 10, 2019 12:46:28 GMT 1
I’m just about to catch the train for my first away game of the season and I’m fed up. No enthusiasm for the afternoon ahead. Something needs to change, and quickly. Good look with that, I am just about to fire up the DB9 and go to golf. Hottest day of the year today at 97 (36c) UTT I’m just sat in the car park at my golf club deciding whether I want to get drenched wet through. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 10, 2019 13:00:53 GMT 1
We don't talk about results because Wagner didn't get results with his team. In his last ten games our best result was one 0-0 draw and the games included a team that finished eighth in the Championship and each of the five teams that finished immediately above us in the table. That was with his team with some players he worked with for over three years and rest of the first team he'd had for twelve months and had had success with. How was Siewart supposed to have done better? Just what am I missing? I am looking for some type of spark something I can leave the ground with thinking we are on the right path. We are not playing the attacking football promised ( did we have a shot on goal in the second half against Derby I mean on goal) will we come out today all guns blazing? I was At Bournemouth last year on a Tuesday night (I think) and every Town fan to a man gave the team a standing ovation when they left the pitch for a brilliant hard working non stop attacking effort ( we still failed to score even with the loads of chances we created) but we all left happy. I have never had this feeling since JS arrived I think we are 4 hours into my post asking anyone to say what he has brought to the club and the silence is deafening. Off to the game now let’s hope for a good result West Ham away, a make shift team with three full backs, fourth choice centre back and a player making his first team debut in the Premier League. We went behind early, after 70 minutes we were 3-1 up and Fabianski pulled off a great save to stop a fourth. Then Bacuna got injured leaving us with couldn't-be-bothered Billing and Puncheon (another of Wagner's wonders, who still contrived to make the miss of the season) in midfield. They got applauded off that day as well. |
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Post by captainblack on Aug 10, 2019 13:06:20 GMT 1
I do not want to see Jan sacked at this moment in time,
our performance on Monday was reasonable and in my humble
opinion we have a decent enough squad, I think what worries
the supporters is that we do not look like a fluid, coherent
outfit at present, this is where Jan and the coaching staff
must attempt to rectify this problem.
I am not somebody who is "in the Know" at the club , could
it be that the players do not have the confidence in Jan ?
I can only speculate on such matters, if this is the case
we are in real trouble.
I sincerely hope Jan manages to change our fortunes in the
coming months , if results continue to be poor though its
obvious his position will become increasingly difficult.
Lets hope we click this afternoon and smash QPR ,UTT.
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 10, 2019 17:23:01 GMT 1
It's a yes from me.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 10, 2019 17:44:09 GMT 1
Good look with that, I am just about to fire up the DB9 and go to golf. Hottest day of the year today at 97 (36c) UTT I’m just sat in the car park at my golf club deciding whether I want to get drenched wet through. Just back from golf, got absolutely drenched through my own sweat. A nice 86 though, I drunk 8 pints of water and still lost 4 pounds. |
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Post by townrwe on Aug 10, 2019 17:45:04 GMT 1
Wait until Webb starts and then let him shape the club and choose his manager. If he wants seiwert fair enough. If not, bring in whoever he wants.
Just not worked out for Jan yet, but give him another month at least until webb has settled in and seen what the situation is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 17:49:35 GMT 1
I vote yes
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 10, 2019 17:50:23 GMT 1
Its a yes from me👍 too
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Post by huddersfc on Aug 10, 2019 18:00:32 GMT 1
It wouldnt "Cheer me up" because it means we are doing shite if we have to sack a manager. I honestly dont think on the many years on here, I have ever asked for a manager to be sacked, because I can normally see at least some positives, or I can look at things in a different way. The problem I have though, is that I simply cant see things improving, and im basing it on all 17 games in charge. Now I am sure Jan wants to succeed and it is hurting him too, but here are the problems with him for me. He doesnt learn from simple, basic errors, whether it be tactical, substitutions, seemingly handling of players, and decision making. He cant see that players like Quaner are not good enough and havnt been since he arrived. The videos of games he has played will tell him that. He hasnt improved the performances in any of his 17 games in charge, no bounce in results when he arrived, no gradual progression, the same failings after a full summer of work. The players in the last 2 games are struggling to keep the ball for more than 2 passes. It is crying out for someone with some experience to come into this football club and guide the players, give them confidence and inspire them. The record of 1 win in 17 is abysmal. Mick Wadsworth managed 9 wins in 39 and he is acknowledged to be one of the worst town managers in a generation. At the moment his win percentage of 23 looks good. If I was the chairman there would reluctantly only be 1 decision, and that is to admit that it was the wrong appointment at the wrong time, move on and bring someone in who is a motivator and confidence builder and get them playing again.
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Post by aideybabes on Aug 10, 2019 18:27:17 GMT 1
I’m just sat in the car park at my golf club deciding whether I want to get drenched wet through. Just back from golf, got absolutely drenched through my own sweat. A nice 86 though, I drunk 8 pints of water and still lost 4 pounds. Greens were flooded, not whacked a ball. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 10, 2019 18:35:05 GMT 1
Will we extend his contract?
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Post by E4b on Aug 10, 2019 18:44:07 GMT 1
Get rid, another muppet who plays shite players over more worthy ones, clueless!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 10, 2019 18:55:50 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 10, 2019 19:28:55 GMT 1
Get rid, another muppet who plays shite players over more worthy ones, clueless! Yeah what a Muppet why did he get rid of Golden Gloves Hamer ? |
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Post by slackjaw on Aug 10, 2019 19:35:00 GMT 1
It hasn’t worked out for Jan and imo won’t he hasn’t got the support of the fans or the players.He just can’t get these players to produce a performance or get a decent result,his record is truly abismal.
As for a replacement Chris Hughton would be my pick but his style of football is very negative but gets results.He is however way out of our budget,the guys at Lincoln city are probably more realistic
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Post by specialun on Aug 10, 2019 19:35:06 GMT 1
No again
Good point away from home towards safety
And hopefully towards mid table
Achieving that will be a fantastic achievement with this team/ squad/ lack of backing from the Board
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