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Post by Porrohman on Oct 17, 2023 14:20:56 GMT 1
Uncle Ken bought Woodfield Park, at least 10 years ago, supposedly to turn it into Fartowns version of Canalside. Since then there's been the mysterious fire that destroyed the clubhouse and a barrier put across the entrance. Nothing else has been done with it since. Everything has just been left to rot and both the football pitch and cricket pitch are just overgrown. that's a massive shame..I used to live in Armitage Bridge and Woodfield Park belonged to the Police.. My Dad took us regularly, there was tennis courts, a bowling green, a decent clubhouse serving food and drink, and various events there for young 'uns. Like loads of other facilites like this we seem to have gone backwards..wonder what KD is thinking..holding it as a landbank for housing ? That's what I've always thought he'd do with it. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Oct 17, 2023 15:44:15 GMT 1
Belongs off topic or separate board imo. There obviously is interest but very small minority. It's as interesting and relevant to me as the giants. It's about a team called Huddersfield Town that play football. How much more "on topic" could it be ? The clue to what the thread is about I'd in the title, if it doesn't interest you don't click on it 🤷 Different game, different team, different ground. If people want to watch it and write about it on a forum then great, but shouldn’t be here. Can be a different board. By comparison, for years our team transfer discussions haven’t been allowed here! Yet you and some others want to use the limited space here for a different team altogether. |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 17, 2023 16:38:25 GMT 1
It's about a team called Huddersfield Town that play football. How much more "on topic" could it be ? The clue to what the thread is about I'd in the title, if it doesn't interest you don't click on it 🤷 Different game, different team, different ground. If people want to watch it and write about it on a forum then great, but shouldn’t be here. Can be a different board. By comparison, for years our team transfer discussions haven’t been allowed here! Yet you and some others want to use the limited space here for a different team altogether. From the main menu Talk of the Town THIS IS THE MAIN FOOTBALL DISCUSSION BOARD. You can discuss all things HTAFC and any other interesting football topics right here. So your saying a team that play FOOTBALL and have HUDDERSFIELD TOWN in there name and are representing Huddersfield shouldn't be discussed. So neither should any other team then 🤔. Just don't click on it, if you aren't interested. There's a horse racing thread somewhere, I've never looked on it cos I have no interest in horses or betting. It's not hard to ignore it. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Oct 17, 2023 17:12:11 GMT 1
How come Transfer Rumours were “justifiably” off-topic for so many years? Now they’re still a sub-board, not on here. Same should apply for this different game / team.
It’s simple logic, I’m not interested in political correctness, I only want to read about the team I’ve followed for 50+ years here.
I’m happy to read about the other team on another thread. I wish them all the best of success.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Oct 17, 2023 17:34:03 GMT 1
How come Transfer Rumours were “justifiably” off-topic for so many years? Now they’re still a sub-board, not on here. Same should apply for this different game / team. It’s simple logic, I’m not interested in political correctness, I only want to read about the team I’ve followed for 50+ years here. I’m happy to read about the other team on another thread. I wish them all the best of success. A fair point to make. I'm not entirely in agreement with it, but it does generate the discussion as to why should the women's team NOT be one part of HTAFC. The title of our club does not include the word "men's". If the men's and women's team were both incorporated into the one club, then Alpine's point could be overcome. I should be interested to know what Mr Nagle thinks about the concept. I'm genuinely not being PC about this point. My desire is that both boys and girls should have ready and safe access to both play and watch football. |
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on Oct 17, 2023 18:14:57 GMT 1
How come Transfer Rumours were “justifiably” off-topic for so many years? Now they’re still a sub-board, not on here. Same should apply for this different game / team. It’s simple logic, I’m not interested in political correctness, I only want to read about the team I’ve followed for 50+ years here. I’m happy to read about the other team on another thread. I wish them all the best of success. There is one thread, clearly titled, on this subject on the whole board. I think that adequately reflects its ‘niche’ status. The transfer board was done because multiple threads were being started which was believed to clog up the board. Simple logic |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 17, 2023 18:30:13 GMT 1
How come Transfer Rumours were “justifiably” off-topic for so many years? Now they’re still a sub-board, not on here. Same should apply for this different game / team. It’s simple logic, I’m not interested in political correctness, I only want to read about the team I’ve followed for 50+ years here. I’m happy to read about the other team on another thread. I wish them all the best of success. A fair point to make. I'm not entirely in agreement with it, but it does generate the discussion as to why should the women's team NOT be one part of HTAFC. The title of our club does not include the word "men's". If the men's and women's team were both incorporated into the one club, then Alpine's point could be overcome. I should be interested to know what Mr Nagle thinks about the concept. I'm genuinely not being PC about this point. My desire is that both boys and girls should have ready and safe access to both play and watch football. I'm still at a loss as to how 11 players a side, played with the same ball, on the same pitch, to the same rules, is apparently a different game 🤷. Or whether we need to get rid of the Today's Games thread too as that is mostly about other teams or is that allowed cos the competitors have knackers 🤔 |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Oct 17, 2023 22:29:44 GMT 1
A fair point to make. I'm not entirely in agreement with it, but it does generate the discussion as to why should the women's team NOT be one part of HTAFC. The title of our club does not include the word "men's". If the men's and women's team were both incorporated into the one club, then Alpine's point could be overcome. I should be interested to know what Mr Nagle thinks about the concept. I'm genuinely not being PC about this point. My desire is that both boys and girls should have ready and safe access to both play and watch football. I'm still at a loss as to how 11 players a side, played with the same ball, on the same pitch, to the same rules, is apparently a different game 🤷. Or whether we need to get rid of the Today's Games thread too as that is mostly about other teams or is that allowed cos the competitors have knackers 🤔 “ My desire is that both boys and girls should have ready and safe access to both play and watch football”. Excellent point. |
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Post by Five Lamps on Oct 17, 2023 22:35:30 GMT 1
The abandonment on Thursday evening was unfortunate, just one of those things. I know this was probably a one-off problem, and I mean no disrespect to Shelley, but is the ground one of the things potentially holding us back? I've only visited a couple of times, and I remember it being out on a limb and very open to the elements. I've been keen on what Derby have done at Mickleover since they renovated their ground, that seems a perfect fit/size for this league, with decent facilities, good cover, and a lot of club community involvement and encouragement to attend (they used to let men's ST holders in for nowt, so a perfect excuse to bring the kids out for an afternoon). Similarly, I think Notts Forest did a good job of that sort of thing at Eastwood, now Long Eaton. I know we're limited in the level of non-league grounds around Huddersfield too. I think floodlights is just one of those things, you see it at at least one EFL game each season. It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Giant's game at Leigh (home of Man Utd Women) was abandoned due to floodlight failure. I defintely agree though that playing at Shelley is not sustainable really long term. Facilities aren't great, the pitch is shit and it's so far out of the way that you've got to really want to go. Something more central, or even Canalside would be much better. I also think they need to engage with HTAFC fans more. Maybe free entry for SC holders during an international break? Seems like you're not the only one who sees the location as a downside. Canalside would have been a great shout, had the club gone ahead with the plans for a show pitch with seated stand. Something like the stand Leicester City built at their training ground for the U23s would be fantastic. I think Bristol City Women played at their training ground in the Championship last season too, so there's a precedent. If they were to move into the JSS, you'd potentially attract more floating fans, but you'd probably also lose some of the closeness/community spirit you get from playing at a smaller ground, and that has to be important. It's still a great idea for the odd game to boost attendances (Cup games, maybe a derby vs Leeds if they don't overtake us...) |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Oct 18, 2023 9:21:35 GMT 1
How come Transfer Rumours were “justifiably” off-topic for so many years? Now they’re still a sub-board, not on here. Same should apply for this different game / team. It’s simple logic, I’m not interested in political correctness, I only want to read about the team I’ve followed for 50+ years here. I’m happy to read about the other team on another thread. I wish them all the best of success. Please explain how this is, remotely, "political correctness". Because it looks like plain old, every day, run of the mill, actual correctness. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 18, 2023 10:21:41 GMT 1
How come Transfer Rumours were “justifiably” off-topic for so many years? Now they’re still a sub-board, not on here. Same should apply for this different game / team. It’s simple logic, I’m not interested in political correctness, I only want to read about the team I’ve followed for 50+ years here. I’m happy to read about the other team on another thread. I wish them all the best of success. There is one thread, clearly titled, on this subject on the whole board. I think that adequately reflects its ‘niche’ status. The transfer board was done because multiple threads were being started which was believed to clog up the board. Simple logic 100% (even though they weren't and wouldnt clog the board!) |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 18, 2023 10:52:53 GMT 1
I think floodlights is just one of those things, you see it at at least one EFL game each season. It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Giant's game at Leigh (home of Man Utd Women) was abandoned due to floodlight failure. I defintely agree though that playing at Shelley is not sustainable really long term. Facilities aren't great, the pitch is shit and it's so far out of the way that you've got to really want to go. Something more central, or even Canalside would be much better. I also think they need to engage with HTAFC fans more. Maybe free entry for SC holders during an international break? Seems like you're not the only one who sees the location as a downside. Canalside would have been a great shout, had the club gone ahead with the plans for a show pitch with seated stand. Something like the stand Leicester City built at their training ground for the U23s would be fantastic. I think Bristol City Women played at their training ground in the Championship last season too, so there's a precedent. If they were to move into the JSS, you'd potentially attract more floating fans, but you'd probably also lose some of the closeness/community spirit you get from playing at a smaller ground, and that has to be important. It's still a great idea for the odd game to boost attendances (Cup games, maybe a derby vs Leeds if they don't overtake us...) Spot on. If they played at the JSS, or Canalside, or Laund Hill...I'd definitely attend SOME games. I definitely WON'T attend a game at Storthes Hall. Of course, there are likely people local to that area attending now who wouldn't follow the womens team to those other locations. Don't think they should play at the JSS for the reasons you state...looking at the top flight in the womens game, there's a handful of teams who play at the 'expected' location for SOME of the high profile games (Arsenal as the exception now play all games at the Emirates in front of huge crowds), but mostly they're playing at Mens U21/Academy or Development team grounds, OR a localish smaller clubs ground (like West Ham play at Dagenham & Redbridge, Brighton at Crawley). The goal if the top flight is the aim surely has to be to move to a developed Canalside pitch or somewhere else closer to the actual town whose name is on their badge...which probably means somewhere established like Golcar unless funding could somehow be attracted to make significant updates somewhere else... |
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Post by mosher on Oct 19, 2023 7:45:43 GMT 1
Belongs off topic or separate board imo. There obviously is interest but very small minority. It's as interesting and relevant to me as the giants. It's about a team called Huddersfield Town that play football. How much more "on topic" could it be ? The clue to what the thread is about I'd in the title, if it doesn't interest you don't click on it 🤷 I wonder how many of these who don't care about Town's ladies (who are taking the time to click on a thread they don't care about  ) have daughters who want to play football. |
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Post by Sparrow on Oct 19, 2023 16:27:06 GMT 1
Storthes Hall is a great venue for Junior and Amateur open age football and the facilities and pitches are great for that level.
There is massive potential to develop it, however, for Huddersfield Town Ladies team and even Shelley's fist team at Semi-pro level, it'll never work. It's just too remote and isolated for many people to want to go watch. Shelley get about 65-70 people watching (family & Friends of players) whereas Emley, Golcar and Pensitone Church all average well over 300.
Ideally Town ladies need a new place to play that is on pretty good public transport routes and in a densely populated area. That way they can start increasing attendances and raising their profile
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Post by rab030 on Oct 22, 2023 9:56:12 GMT 1
I don’t want to get into a debate about how good or bad women’s football is and I really don’t understand why people think it’s not relevant?  We are missing a trick and with some limited investment could be one of the better women’s teams. Why not improve the profile of the club and attract more investment, sponsors, fans, etc. Women’s football whether you like it or not is here to stay and us attracting lots of interest globally. I know let’s just keep telling ourselves that we just want to watch the men play like we always have done, ideally without an American owner and with NW in charge. FFS - there are some proper idiots on this site with no idea how to run a club, business or community but with lots of irrelevant opinions. UTT |
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Post by terryya on Oct 22, 2023 10:18:07 GMT 1
It's about a team called Huddersfield Town that play football. How much more "on topic" could it be ? The clue to what the thread is about I'd in the title, if it doesn't interest you don't click on it 🤷 I wonder how many of these who don't care about Town's ladies (who are taking the time to click on a thread they don't care about ) have daughters who want to play football. Nothing says "I really don't care about x" quite like clicking on a link and commenting on a thread clearly labeled as x! 🤣🤣 |
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Post by terryya on Oct 22, 2023 10:26:52 GMT 1
I don’t want to get into a debate about how good or bad women’s football is and I really don’t understand why people think it’s not relevant? We are missing a trick and with some limited investment could be one of the better women’s teams. Why not improve the profile of the club and attract more investment, sponsors, fans, etc. Women’s football whether you like it or not is here to stay and us attracting lots of interest globally. I know let’s just keep telling ourselves that we just want to watch the men play like we always have done, ideally without an American owner and with NW in charge. FFS - there are some proper idiots on this site with no idea how to run a club, business or community but with lots of irrelevant opinions. UTT I hope I'm wrong, but it's looking more and more like Town have missed the boat. I think they're getting more support this season but are now trying to compete with teams like Newcastle who are full time professional and other teams with massive budgets like Burnley, Forest, Wolves etc. WSL teams (and Championship teams to a lesser extent) are starting to horde players like in the mens game and even in tier 3 the financial imbalances are causing the talent to be more concentrated in a smaller number of teams. You've got on field and off field staff/volunteers working their arses off but the games has changed and Town are getting left behind. |
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Post by rab030 on Oct 22, 2023 11:59:52 GMT 1
I don’t want to get into a debate about how good or bad women’s football is and I really don’t understand why people think it’s not relevant? We are missing a trick and with some limited investment could be one of the better women’s teams. Why not improve the profile of the club and attract more investment, sponsors, fans, etc. Women’s football whether you like it or not is here to stay and us attracting lots of interest globally. I know let’s just keep telling ourselves that we just want to watch the men play like we always have done, ideally without an American owner and with NW in charge. FFS - there are some proper idiots on this site with no idea how to run a club, business or community but with lots of irrelevant opinions. UTT I hope I'm wrong, but it's looking more and more like Town have missed the boat. I think they're getting more support this season but are now trying to compete with teams like Newcastle who are full time professional and other teams with massive budgets like Burnley, Forest, Wolves etc. WSL teams (and Championship teams to a lesser extent) are starting to horde players like in the mens game and even in tier 3 the financial imbalances are causing the talent to be more concentrated in a smaller number of teams. You've got on field and off field staff/volunteers working their arses off but the games has changed and Town are getting left behind. Completely agree - the boat is sailing which means we need to start paddling quickly. But without some support and investment they have no chance. |
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Post by paullow1 on Oct 22, 2023 15:50:19 GMT 1
If you look at the current WSL, of the 12 teams, it consists of all the 'big 6' as well as Villa, Everton, and also West Ham. Leicester, Brighton and Bristol C the final 3, so in terms of clubs in general, it's most of the higher profile, big city clubs, so a bit of a disgrace that Newcastle were playing in the 4th tier last season, and just further neglect of the Mike Ashley era.
Thankfully, it's a bit of an Amanda Staveley pet project, and a lot more effort has been put into it these past couple of years, including 3 matches at SJP. They won the league last season and have started well this season, and are fully professional as mentioned earlier, so hopefully they will be in the WSL in the next 3 or 4 years.
Our sides are playing each other right now, but Huddersfield had a player sent off after only 4 mins, so was always going to be an uphill task, and it's currently 0-2 with 30 to go.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 22, 2023 16:53:11 GMT 1
If you look at the current WSL, of the 12 teams, it consists of all the 'big 6' as well as Villa, Everton, and also West Ham. Leicester, Brighton and Bristol C the final 3, so in terms of clubs in general, it's most of the higher profile, big city clubs, so a bit of a disgrace that Newcastle were playing in the 4th tier last season, and just further neglect of the Mike Ashley era. Thankfully, it's a bit of an Amanda Staveley pet project, and a lot more effort has been put into it these past couple of years, including 3 matches at SJP. They won the league last season and have started well this season, and are fully professional as mentioned earlier, so hopefully they will be in the WSL in the next 3 or 4 years. Our sides are playing each other right now, but Huddersfield had a player sent off after only 4 mins, so was always going to be an uphill task, and it's currently 0-2 with 30 to go. Why is it a disgrace that they were playing in the 4th tier? Are you suggesting your club should now be classed above Bristol C ladies for instance? |
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Post by paullow1 on Oct 22, 2023 17:16:42 GMT 1
If you look at the current WSL, of the 12 teams, it consists of all the 'big 6' as well as Villa, Everton, and also West Ham. Leicester, Brighton and Bristol C the final 3, so in terms of clubs in general, it's most of the higher profile, big city clubs, so a bit of a disgrace that Newcastle were playing in the 4th tier last season, and just further neglect of the Mike Ashley era. Thankfully, it's a bit of an Amanda Staveley pet project, and a lot more effort has been put into it these past couple of years, including 3 matches at SJP. They won the league last season and have started well this season, and are fully professional as mentioned earlier, so hopefully they will be in the WSL in the next 3 or 4 years. Our sides are playing each other right now, but Huddersfield had a player sent off after only 4 mins, so was always going to be an uphill task, and it's currently 0-2 with 30 to go. Why is it a disgrace that they were playing in the 4th tier? Are you suggesting your club should now be classed above Bristol C ladies for instance? Why do you feel the need to quote pretty much everything I say? Following around like a lost little puppy. Pathetic.  I'm just saying if other higher profile clubs can all have a women's team in the upper echelons of the game, and it's clearly not by accident that they are all up there, then Newcastle could surely expect to have a team better than one outside the top 48 clubs in the country, as they were until this season, but it obviously wasn't a priority, like a lot of things weren't under the previous regime. I never said they should be in the WSL, just doing a lot better than where they were. |
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Post by paullow1 on Oct 22, 2023 17:17:36 GMT 1
Match finished 0-4 in the end.
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Post by football on Oct 23, 2023 7:11:13 GMT 1
I'm sure I heard somewhere that these top clubs are making huge losses. That's no surprise when they are hoovering up the talent.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 23, 2023 10:50:58 GMT 1
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Oct 23, 2023 12:13:50 GMT 1
Why is it a disgrace that they were playing in the 4th tier? Are you suggesting your club should now be classed above Bristol C ladies for instance? Why do you feel the need to quote pretty much everything I say? Following around like a lost little puppy. Pathetic. I'm just saying if other higher profile clubs can all have a women's team in the upper echelons of the game, and it's clearly not by accident that they are all up there, then Newcastle could surely expect to have a team better than one outside the top 48 clubs in the country, as they were until this season, but it obviously wasn't a priority, like a lot of things weren't under the previous regime. I never said they should be in the WSL, just doing a lot better than where they were. At the risk of quoting you and being told off, it does seem like you're saying that Newcastle WFC shouldn't be playing the likes of 4th tier teams because you're all of a sudden a top team (due to foreign investment). |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 23, 2023 12:57:34 GMT 1
Why is it a disgrace that they were playing in the 4th tier? Are you suggesting your club should now be classed above Bristol C ladies for instance? Why do you feel the need to quote pretty much everything I say? Following around like a lost little puppy. Pathetic. I'm just saying if other higher profile clubs can all have a women's team in the upper echelons of the game, and it's clearly not by accident that they are all up there, then Newcastle could surely expect to have a team better than one outside the top 48 clubs in the country, as they were until this season, but it obviously wasn't a priority, like a lot of things weren't under the previous regime. I never said they should be in the WSL, just doing a lot better than where they were. Do you think the WSL should be exclusive to higher profile clubs then? |
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Post by rab030 on Oct 23, 2023 22:20:46 GMT 1
Some people should perhaps think about going back to school or downloading some English comprehension papers?
What he said was completely true - WSL is mainly dominated by high profile clubs or big city teams. Note the word ‘mainly’ in the above sentence as it’s significant.
Newcastle qualify as both high profile and big city in case you hadn’t realised and so to be playing in a division below one that plays it’s home games in the woods at Storthes Hall shows very little ambition or forward thinking - apologies if I’ve used too many big words in that sentence.
Amanda Staveley (she’s part of the investment group) has decided things need to change and has a plan to progress Newcastle to a higher lever and I’m sure she hopes that includes top tier eventually.
It’s not a given but guess what in most cases money (and time) play a significant role.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 29, 2023 17:44:29 GMT 1
Won 4-3 at WBA in the cup. 4-1 up with 5 mins to go and Brom scored 2 in 2 minutes.
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 29, 2023 22:01:23 GMT 1
Won 4-3 at WBA in the cup. 4-1 up with 5 mins to go and Brom scored 2 in 2 minutes. Delighted for The HTAFC Women ! Been a tough old shift for them this season - Hopefully this much needed win can be the springboard for their onward recovery this season... Next game away to Liverpool Feds on Sunday 5th November ! |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 30, 2023 18:35:12 GMT 1
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