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Post by impact on Apr 18, 2021 16:43:16 GMT 1
Rumours going that that Utd, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool have signed up to the Super League. Strong responses from the Premier League and Uefa.
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Post by bogart on Apr 18, 2021 16:51:18 GMT 1
How the hell do Arsenal figure in that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 16:53:12 GMT 1
Fuck them.
Seriously, fuck them.
Those greedy bastards have damaged football enough already, time to stop the rot and let them have their way.
And after three seasons of Man United finishing second bottom - to the consternation of their Surrey-based "fans" - if they try to come crawling back, fuck them again.
Apologies for the bad language, but this bare-faced greed makes me sick. I hope they all go bust.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 18, 2021 16:55:52 GMT 1
How the hell do Arsenal figure in that? It certainly cant be anything to do with how good you are. |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 18, 2021 16:56:40 GMT 1
Let's hope it happens. It'll make domestic football in this country more interesting. More opportunity for other teams to win the top division and cups.
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Post by bogart on Apr 18, 2021 16:56:42 GMT 1
PL statement
"We will work with fans, The FA, EFL, PFA and LMA, as well as other stakeholders, at home and abroad, to defend the integrity and future prospects of English football in the best interests of the game."
Since when has the PL had the best interests of the game as an aim? It is all PL, PL and more PL. Only moaning now they might be on the receiving end.
Perhaps Town should suggest we have a breakaway Yorkshire league.
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Post by ACW on Apr 18, 2021 16:57:19 GMT 1
Apparently Bayern and PSG are not backing the plans.
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Post by impact on Apr 18, 2021 16:58:05 GMT 1
Part of me wonders if this is just a way to get more control domestically.
Don't want us to go? We want more voting rights and more of the money.
I imagine the majority of their fans don't want this. It's the owners being greedy pricks.
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Post by iangreaves on Apr 18, 2021 16:58:15 GMT 1
Presumably they would leave the English league. May make it more competitive, to be honest. When they come crawling back, they have to start in non-league, though.
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Post by impact on Apr 18, 2021 16:58:50 GMT 1
Apparently Bayern and PSG are not backing the plans. I don't think the German clubs would dare. Their fans would riot. There's a really strong sense of doing the fair and right thing for fans in Germany. |
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Post by bogart on Apr 18, 2021 16:58:55 GMT 1
Apparently $6 billion not enough.
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Post by buckers on Apr 18, 2021 17:00:35 GMT 1
Seen this coming a mile off since they tried to reform football to suit themselves.
Man United v PSG in China in front of 85,000 Chinese fans taking selfies all game.
Man City v Arsenal in Saudi, it’ll end up like the Grand Prix.
Get gone. let football below the top 6 try get back down to a realistic sustained level. Not to mention if you play for the 6 English clubs in the super league. fifa are already talking about banning you from playing for your country.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 17:00:47 GMT 1
Piss off then. Just don't let them back in again when they come crawling back!!!
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 18, 2021 17:02:47 GMT 1
Let em go. And when it fails and the money dries up we can tell them get fucked and they can start again in tier 7 or wherever.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Apr 18, 2021 17:03:10 GMT 1
Presumably they would leave the English league. May make it more competitive, to be honest. When they come crawling back, they have to start in non-league, though. Not under these plans. It's essentially going to be a Champions League alternative, midweek fixtures and they still play domestically |
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 18, 2021 17:03:28 GMT 1
You have to laugh at Martin Tyler and Gary Neville pooh-poohing the idea of a European Super League saying that it is all down to the 2 G's - guarantee and greed. They just don't get the irony of their comments.
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Post by stevvy on Apr 18, 2021 17:03:49 GMT 1
Apart from the fact that all the leagues, FIFA etc have said if they go ahead with it then they'll be banned from all domestic competitions, European competitions, players playing for those teams may not be allowed to play for their national teams, in reality it's little more than a power grab and an attempt to force UEFA to accept their demands.
They don't give (and never have given) a shit about fans, not even fans of their own team, they only give a shit about having every possible bit of money exclusively for them and having every little bit of power they can get.
As far as I'm concerned, they can fuck off and not come back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 17:07:53 GMT 1
Presumably they would leave the English league. May make it more competitive, to be honest. When they come crawling back, they have to start in non-league, though. Not under these plans. It's essentially going to be a Champions League alternative, midweek fixtures and they still play domestically That's what they want, but it can't see it happening. The leagues involved have already come out fighting - which suggests this isn't just paper talk - and it sounds an awful lot like they'd be kicked out of their domestic leagues. Good. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 17:10:31 GMT 1
Meanwhile, "super" league Arsenal needed a late, possibly offside goal in the 96th minute to beat relegation-bound Fulham, and Manchester United are drawing at home with the mighty Burnley. Suspect their fans are in for a rude awakening.
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Post by gbow on Apr 18, 2021 17:10:47 GMT 1
I'll never watch a European Super League match. I can't imagine 99% of football fans would want to watch something as soulless as that either. Football sadly isn't what it used to be
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Post by impact on Apr 18, 2021 17:10:57 GMT 1
You have to laugh at Martin Tyler and Gary Neville pooh-poohing the idea of a European Super League saying that it is all down to the 2 G's - guarantee and greed. They just don't get the irony of their comments. What irony? They are 2 people employed by an organisation giving their thoughts on it. Neville has lambasted his own club over it. If it was the CEO of sky that'd be different. 2 people paid to commentate and give their opinions are doing just that. |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Apr 18, 2021 17:11:53 GMT 1
Not under these plans. It's essentially going to be a Champions League alternative, midweek fixtures and they still play domestically That's what they want, but it can't see it happening. The leagues involved have already come out fighting - which suggests this isn't just paper talk - and it sounds an awful lot like they'd be kicked out of their domestic leagues. Good. I don't think they'd dare. The big clubs have all the power really, and it would take a lot of broadcast money away from the domestic leagues if they were kicked out. |
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Post by keefer on Apr 18, 2021 17:12:10 GMT 1
I think the best way to deal with this proposed shit show is to say to the clubs, OK off you go but you will be playing in a league that is not FIFA sanctioned. Thus their players would not be available for international selection. That embargo could be lifted if and when a player returns to approved clubs. The European super league would then consist of lesser lights and older players seeking a last wedge. All this is reliant on FIFA and UEFA supporting the national associations and not selling out to the breakaway clubs. For clubs like ours, in all probability, not much will change but maybe it opens the door slightly for smaller clubs to get into the top league
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 18, 2021 17:15:14 GMT 1
You have to laugh at Martin Tyler and Gary Neville pooh-poohing the idea of a European Super League saying that it is all down to the 2 G's - guarantee and greed. They just don't get the irony of their comments. What irony? They are 2 people employed by an organisation giving their thoughts on it. Neville has lambasted his own club over it. If it was the CEO of sky that'd be different. 2 people paid to commentate and give their opinions are doing just that. I appreciate that neither if them were happy about Man Utd being in favour of it. It's the fact that they are currently commentating on a Premier League game which is the epitome of greed that I find somewhat ironic. |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Apr 18, 2021 17:18:56 GMT 1
A double response to this:
1) If it happens never, ever, ever let any of them back into their domestic football associations. They will soon wither and die in such a 'Super League' as only one club can win it at any one time and all those clubs have impatient chairmen who want regular success. The non-winners would soon want to 'come back' to their domestic leagues.
2) Typical that it is the countries with those rich, mainly foreign plutocrats who care nothing for the fans of the said clubs involved. I really wonder how many 'real fans' would like to play matches that are a long way from home or should I say the team they support's home ground every second week. Real Madrid away one fortnight followed by Paris SG in winter does not sound all that tempting at the prices the airlines will charge or the time it will take to get there and back.
This won't happen it is a ploy to force even more cash out of the domestic leagues. Ignore it!
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Post by sabailand on Apr 18, 2021 17:23:30 GMT 1
You have to laugh at Martin Tyler and Gary Neville pooh-poohing the idea of a European Super League saying that it is all down to the 2 G's - guarantee and greed. They just don't get the irony of their comments. What irony? They are 2 people employed by an organisation giving their thoughts on it. Neville has lambasted his own club over it. If it was the CEO of sky that'd be different. 2 people paid to commentate and give their opinions are doing just that. Its just my opinion of course but i dont mind Gary neville as a co commentator, yes hes Man utd but hes given them some harsh criticism in the past while at the same time praising bitter rivals Man city, same with Liverpool, he dosnt make disparaging remarks about them but has praised them when its deserved, it can be so easy to let bias comments slip out now and again but he keeps a lid on things admirably. |
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Post by iangreaves on Apr 18, 2021 17:24:51 GMT 1
Presumably they would leave the English league. May make it more competitive, to be honest. When they come crawling back, they have to start in non-league, though. Not under these plans. It's essentially going to be a Champions League alternative, midweek fixtures and they still play domestically They would need the approval of the English, European and International football authorities to do that. and they haven't got it. |
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Post by harrychrishner on Apr 18, 2021 17:26:32 GMT 1
Maybe it's time for a shake up of the leagues in general. The way the current Champions League and Europa League are set up at the moment is crap. That certainly needs looking at. At a domestic level the four english leagues need to be looked at as well. Maybe a Premier League One and Two with more money pumped into what is now the Championship. Leagues 1 & 2 would be interesting if they were a Northern League and a Southern League, a geographic split to make it easier and cheaper for the fans to visit away games therefore increasing income at the gates.
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Post by harrychrishner on Apr 18, 2021 17:34:04 GMT 1
I think the best way to deal with this proposed shit show is to say to the clubs, OK off you go but you will be playing in a league that is not FIFA sanctioned. Thus their players would not be available for international selection. That embargo could be lifted if and when a player returns to approved clubs. The European super league would then consist of lesser lights and older players seeking a last wedge. All this is reliant on FIFA and UEFA supporting the national associations and not selling out to the breakaway clubs. For clubs like ours, in all probability, not much will change but maybe it opens the door slightly for smaller clubs to get into the top league Let's not forget that both FIFA and UEFA have their own agendas on making much more money than they do now. I wouldn't trust them at all and take anything they say with a huge pinch of salt. |
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Post by buckers on Apr 18, 2021 17:38:15 GMT 1
Maybe it's time for a shake up of the leagues in general. The way the current Champions League and Europa League are set up at the moment is crap. That certainly needs looking at. At a domestic level the four english leagues need to be looked at as well. Maybe a Premier League One and Two with more money pumped into what is now the Championship. Leagues 1 & 2 would be interesting if they were a Northern League and a Southern League, a geographic split to make it easier and cheaper for the fans to visit away games therefore increasing income at the gates. Just go watch the European super league pal. That idea is horrendous. |
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