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Post by Mecha Corte on May 11, 2021 9:53:50 GMT 1
While I agree with everything you’ve said it’s worth reminding ourselves that the club technically managed to offload Diakhaby, not once but twice in a year. Maybe we should give them more credit, they can sell sand to Arabs or snow to Eskimos ! They will both be on around £1m a year in wages, so if they we offered an extension you have to believe there will be strong interest in them. I seem to recall Bacuna struggling with not being able to see his son and getting permission to go back home whilst the Cowleys were here. Does anyone know if this is still the situation. It may have a factor on his next destination I know there was talk of a move to Glasgow for Bacuna but I can’t see him or Membenza staying in the U.K. of course there’s Pritchard, who will no doubt cure his cyst and all other knocks and niggles for a Bristol City or WBA next season and run us ragged, twice ! |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 10:30:26 GMT 1
I see Maynard has liked this post, no wonder they are delaying the announcement of the retained list if we are keeping those two 🙄 Makes sense to me, there is firm interest in the pair. 10 goals and 11 assists between them in the championship is a good return. Obviously there is more to it but the pea heart pair will no doubt be of interest to some clubs. I find the whole premise a bit odd. I can well imagine them being players desired by other clubs, if they're free agents and able to negotiate contracts from scratch . But - if they've got a 12 month contract on their heads, cost a fee, and the contract that has to be taken over and extended is at EPL level (even with relegation clauses), then its going to make them more of a risk for any club buying, surely they'd just say no thanks and move on to the 10's of out of contract similar players that will be out there?? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 10:31:52 GMT 1
When did assists even become a thing? Dont recall them when I was a kid. Tap the ball 2 foot to the right and then your team mate hammers it in from 30 yards and you get an assist. I don't really care what Mbenzas stats say. Other than a short spell early this season when he was 'ok', he's been fucking dreadful all the time he's been here. Did you not play English / Headers & Volleys. It was ALL about the set-up. |
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Post by townrwe on May 11, 2021 10:38:19 GMT 1
The list will be out later today or tomorrow, give schindler his farewell and then the brutal reality of the cost cutting will be seen first hand.
There is no advantage to extending anyones contract until the 30th of June, so some players may not appear on that list, but may leave for a sort of fee due to us having an option in their contracts.
The list will have both the expected and maybe the unexpected, its how football goes recruitment has so far been lower championship so it will be interesting how the summer pans out...... hopefully more pipas than Holmes'.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 10:44:05 GMT 1
Makes sense to me, there is firm interest in the pair. 10 goals and 11 assists between them in the championship is a good return. Obviously there is more to it but the pea heart pair will no doubt be of interest to some clubs. I find the whole premise a bit odd. I can well imagine them being players desired by other clubs, if they're free agents and able to negotiate contracts from scratch . But - if they've got a 12 month contract on their heads, cost a fee, and the contract that has to be taken over and extended is at EPL level (even with relegation clauses), then its going to make them more of a risk for any club buying, surely they'd just say no thanks and move on to the 10's of out of contract similar players that will be out there?? if true town are going to extend the option of one year rather than let them go on a free I can understand I'm sure there is more to this than is being speculated on. lets see |
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 11, 2021 11:27:08 GMT 1
When did assists even become a thing? Dont recall them when I was a kid. Tap the ball 2 foot to the right and then your team mate hammers it in from 30 yards and you get an assist. I don't really care what Mbenzas stats say. Other than a short spell early this season when he was 'ok', he's been fucking dreadful all the time he's been here. Absolutely. I read an interview recently where the player who tapped the ball 2 yards to Maradona in his own half before his sensational goal vs England in ‘86 said, ‘after a pass like that he couldn’t miss’. Summed the madness of assists up perfectly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 11:43:08 GMT 1
Maybe there's a bit of skullduggery going on...like "let's tell HTAFC we're interested in Mbenze/bacuna...prepared to pay £x..but we'll wait and see if they become free agents first.." HTAFC extend contracts for both players... Potential buyer .." Ahah, fooled yah !...that's less money you have now to compete with us next season..suckers...." ? Aye, I can see it now, Some Belgian Newspaper with an Mbenza scoop in 5 years,,,, Fashion guru, DJ and ex pro footballer Isaac Mbenza reveals how he once got his mates to ring an ex club pretending to be contacts at other clubs interested in him which fooled the Terriers DoF and triggered a new contract earning Isaac another 750k, |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 11, 2021 11:47:36 GMT 1
It is risky but who the hell would sign these 2 for cash? Honestly? You might sign Mbenza for free but if Town start demanding fees for him you could get the same standard or better for an out of contract player, then you would. Bacuna maybe we could get 500k for him but again we could end up pricing ourselves out of the market buy demanding too much for him. If someone offered 500k for him I'd rip their hands off. We could go down the route of sell-on fees more than the size of transfer fees though, which may make them more attractive to potential suitors? I think that's a very good point. Their transfer value now isn't going to be much even if we get them on another year long contract. Their 'value', if there is one, is in the potential they have to actually be the players that they once looked like they could be. So Towns hope might just be to offload them for very little, even nothing, but have a very good sell on clause just on the off chance that they do actually come good at their next clubs. If we just let them go for free now, we don't even get that. Would be a surprise if deals arent already in place with other clubs for both players along those lines. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on May 11, 2021 11:59:06 GMT 1
Only worry in triggering the extra year is that if can’t shift them we’re stuck with them for another year. Just paying their wages over summer will be a significant amount. A big risk. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 11, 2021 13:01:41 GMT 1
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 11, 2021 13:01:42 GMT 1
At least we’ve got Campbell next year! That’s at least 4 goals we’re guaranteed.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 11, 2021 13:04:26 GMT 1
Campbell is a pure grafter and has deserved another year, we need other strikers around him now to take the pressure off
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on May 11, 2021 13:09:10 GMT 1
I don't think anyone, including Campbell, thought he would play so many games this season. He's not the out and out goal scorer we need, but he does a job and has definitely deserved an additional year with us, just not as first choice.
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 11, 2021 13:12:07 GMT 1
Imagine Rhodes, Campbell & Ward as our strikers! What kind of turgid football would play to their strengths? Certainly not the free-flowing, fast football that CC was brought in to deliver. I guess Bromby has other plans.
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Post by boooothy on May 11, 2021 13:12:21 GMT 1
I’m totally on board with the decision to keep Campbell. Player of the season in my eyes (i know others would pick Hogg and Koroma). Look at the points we won when he didn’t play.
Hopefully he won’t play as many minutes next season which would suit everyone.
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Post by wigster on May 11, 2021 13:14:09 GMT 1
Excellent - we'll have someone to lead the press and foul. Now all we need is someone to score goals. |
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Post by wigster on May 11, 2021 13:15:12 GMT 1
I’m totally on board with the decision to keep Campbell. Player of the season in my eyes (i know others would pick Hogg and Koroma). Look at the points we won when he didn’t play. Hopefully he won’t play as many minutes next season which would suit everyone. Would certainly suit me - he's a striker and supposed to score goals... |
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Post by townrwe on May 11, 2021 13:19:00 GMT 1
It's not a great start.... in a market where we need to be ruthless we have let schindler go because it was best for both parties, we have given frazer a new contract that was good for both parties and we signed ward and Holmes on the same lines.
I dont see it as a bad move resigning frazer, but it's unnecessary if we have ward as well. How many non scoring strikers do we need? Opportunity to find some goals missed in my opinion.
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Post by philstarbuckscoffee on May 11, 2021 13:22:13 GMT 1
Just on Campbell (who I naturally admire for his efforts but I wouldn't want him to be our first choice Number 9 next year), does anyone think he could do a job on the right of a front three? Should Mbenza go, it appears we have more natural options for the left of a 3 up front than a right and I wonder if Campbell could do a job there? He certainly works hard, would help cover for his full back and perhaps be an enhanced version of Kachunga for 5-10 games a season.
Not saying this is the answer to us suddenly becoming a force next season, but wondering if he could be more than just a cover for a Number 9 role?
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Post by omegasupreme on May 11, 2021 13:23:22 GMT 1
I don't think anyone, including Campbell, thought he would play so many games this season. He's not the out and out goal scorer we need, but he does a job and has definitely deserved an additional year with us, just not as first choice. He certainly does a job if your happy to have a hard worker up front with next to zero threat. Yet another absolutely shambolic show of intent from the club. May as well give Keogh and Stearman extensions as well then if that’s the level we’re aiming for. Jesus Christ. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 11, 2021 13:24:08 GMT 1
Does his new deal include the supply of some longer studs so that he can spend more time on his feet rather than his arse?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 13:25:03 GMT 1
Campbell is a pure grafter and has deserved another year, we need other strikers around him now to take the pressure off spot on his commitment is superb and for me that's what we need |
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Post by omegasupreme on May 11, 2021 13:25:19 GMT 1
Just on Campbell (who I naturally admire for his efforts but I wouldn't want him to be our first choice Number 9 next year), does anyone think he could do a job on the right of a front three? Should Mbenza go, it appears we have more natural options for the left of a 3 up front than a right and I wonder if Campbell could do a job there? He certainly works hard, would help cover for his full back and perhaps be an enhanced version of Kachunga for 5-10 games a season. Not saying this is the answer to us suddenly becoming a force next season, but wondering if he could be more than just a cover for a Number 9 role? Are you actually being serious? So as a front three player - the only quality you’re highlighting is that he would provide good cover for the right back? May as well play another right back up front in that case. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on May 11, 2021 13:25:40 GMT 1
I don't think anyone, including Campbell, thought he would play so many games this season. He's not the out and out goal scorer we need, but he does a job and has definitely deserved an additional year with us, just not as first choice. He certainly does a job if your happy to have a hard worker up front with next to zero threat. Yet another absolutely shambolic show of intent from the club. May as well give Keogh and Stearman extensions as well then if that’s the level we’re aiming for. Jesus Christ. Who would you sign to come in and be third or fourth choice centre forward, just out of interest? |
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Post by bentley316 on May 11, 2021 13:26:09 GMT 1
I've seen a lot of negativity around Campbell. But makes sense to me, off the pitch sounds like he is a big voice and a good role model for the younger players.
If you lose Schindler, Stearman and probably Keogh thats a lot of experience and guidance to lose. You need a couple old heads alongside the hungry youth and Hoggy cant do it all.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 13:26:38 GMT 1
I don't think anyone, including Campbell, thought he would play so many games this season. He's not the out and out goal scorer we need, but he does a job and has definitely deserved an additional year with us, just not as first choice. He certainly does a job if your happy to have a hard worker up front with next to zero threat. Yet another absolutely shambolic show of intent from the club. May as well give Keogh and Stearman extensions as well then if that’s the level we’re aiming for. Jesus Christ. how ignorant you are football wise |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 11, 2021 13:27:18 GMT 1
Campbell is a pure grafter and has deserved another year, we need other strikers around him now to take the pressure off spot on his commitment is superb and for me that's what we need 11 fans off here will give you commitment like you've never seen before. I doubt they'd keep us in the championship though Commitment without the quality isn't much good |
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Post by dezzly on May 11, 2021 13:30:22 GMT 1
Think it makes sense as a backup option or for certain games giving Campbell the year(although I do think he had triggered a year anyway so maybe club have renegotiated on slightly less money by dangling the carrot of another year option)
Either way doesn’t bother me too much as like a couple have send he’s not a bad option to have in certain scenarios off the bench and good around the place.
Think we can expect all the formalities of extensions to come first and most likely further backup/sqaud options in first before hopefully some more actual quality follows down the line.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 11, 2021 13:31:08 GMT 1
spot on his commitment is superb and for me that's what we need 11 fans off here will give you commitment like you've never seen before. I doubt they'd keep us in the championship though Commitment without the quality isn't much good Not really PC, and never popular with parents, I used to tell kids trying to get into my school football teams that enthusiasm is no substitute for skill. Did no end of coaching and parents thought their angels were guaranteed games if they simply kept on turning up. How wrong they were...  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 11, 2021 13:31:40 GMT 1
Campbell is a pure grafter and has deserved another year, we need other strikers around him now to take the pressure off spot on his commitment is superb and for me that's what we need Agree. It’s his character and commitment that gets my respect - compare that with some of our recent players! As much as I admire him, I really hope that his main role next season will be as a back up / impact sub, where his energy against tiring defenders will come in very handy. |
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