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Post by kayeb222 on May 11, 2021 17:41:55 GMT 1
Absolutely gutted Pritchard has gone. It's a sad, sad day. You just know that he's gonna be a massive success at his next club!!! |
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Post by detox on May 11, 2021 17:44:56 GMT 1
It was a tongue in cheek post, but to answer your question. Vallejo is, Chritchlow could be, Campbell was but probably isn't good enough now for all the effort he will give. As for the other two, I'm hoping they both leave and we recoup some money. However, they both could be Championship standard if they could be bothered. Bacuna could be Premier League quality, it depends on whether he sorts himself out - if he doesn't it could be Northern Premier League rather than EPL. He's got all the talent in his feet, he just hasn't worked out how to use it in a team setting. Kind of figured that, but for those others reading it and not realising I asked that question.. Agree about Crichlow, but disagree about bacuna..whatever skill he has or doesn't have, we need players we can rely on , week in week out, and no one can rely on Bacuna. he's a liability and thus disrupts the team effort. We have too many players who are erratic , Sarr, Schofield, Pipa, Bacuna, Mbenze, Campbell, and of course the youngsters coming in who you expect to be erratic at this stage..you can't build a team if parts of it are not perfoming every week...we've seen that with the blunders at both ends of the pitch. Phil has to address this and bring in experienced players for those key positions.. |
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Post by bluestripe on May 11, 2021 17:50:00 GMT 1
The offer to Keogh is for a player/coaching role. Will only be back up with 2 new centre halves hopefully on the way. Campbell had triggered an extension on his current wages but has agreed to sign a deal on much reduced terms - well done Frazier. If you can answer: 1. why was Keogh offered this role rather than Stearman or Elphick? 2. what was the background to Campbell agreeing to this? Was there a gentleman's agreement / discussion avoiding a silly situation of (say) not playing Frazier so as not to trigger the extension? |
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Post by Maynardblue on May 11, 2021 18:00:19 GMT 1
The offer to Keogh is for a player/coaching role. Will only be back up with 2 new centre halves hopefully on the way. Campbell had triggered an extension on his current wages but has agreed to sign a deal on much reduced terms - well done Frazier. If you can answer: 1. why was Keogh offered this role rather than Stearman or Elphick? 2. what was the background to Campbell agreeing to this? Was there a gentleman's agreement / discussion avoiding a silly situation of (say) not playing Frazier so as not to trigger the extension? The first question, just down to character and aptitude I'd imagine. Keogh has been very impressive behind the scenes. I'm sure the other 2 have a future in coaching just not with us at this time This deal was only agreed recently with Frazier, the option was triggered some time ago and he would have been within his rights to take the terms but I think he genuinely wanted to help out. He knows he won't be first choice but seems to want to still be a part of things. That's my take on it anyway. |
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Post by ritchie on May 11, 2021 18:02:49 GMT 1
I'm not a big fan of Keogh, but given the turnover of players this summer it not ridiculous to keep him around - he's the safest bet out of the 3 old boys fitness wise and we have a hell of a lot of work to do.
Expect a good signing at CB as schindlers replacement, so I dont expect him to be starting.
Everyone has said how inexperienced both the squad and the staff are, he will know the championship better than anyone at the club and might be (will be) more use in the stands than on the pitch. He could be a good addition to the defensive coaching staff
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Post by otterman on May 11, 2021 18:08:02 GMT 1
The players from the retained list who may be fit for August leave the club is a very vulnerable state. The on pitch weaknesses and attitudes are now ingrained.
Mbenza and Bacuna should be gone before the season kicks off, in my opinion.
Consequently, the spotlight is squarely on PH and Bromby, big time.
Sadly, I believe they are by far the weakest performers of any club employee / director this season.
With DH still owed millions, and a £30 million commercial loan holding back the player investment programme, I just can’t see how two individuals as clueless and disengaged with the club’s issues as PH and Bromby can turn this around. But turn it around they must.
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 11, 2021 18:13:58 GMT 1
Keogh is an arsehole would have been happy to see the back of him.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 11, 2021 18:16:44 GMT 1
Keogh is not the worst player we're keeping. Dunno why he gets all the hate.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 18:20:22 GMT 1
Keogh is an arsehole would have been happy to see the back of him. Why? |
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Post by boooothy on May 11, 2021 18:26:37 GMT 1
Under Wagner i thought Whitehead and Hudson were 2 of the weaker players in the squad however i believe they played a massive part in getting everyone onside with everything.
Hopefully Keogh and Campbell can do something similar.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 11, 2021 18:31:39 GMT 1
If you can answer: 1. why was Keogh offered this role rather than Stearman or Elphick? 2. what was the background to Campbell agreeing to this? Was there a gentleman's agreement / discussion avoiding a silly situation of (say) not playing Frazier so as not to trigger the extension? The first question, just down to character and aptitude I'd imagine. Keogh has been very impressive behind the scenes. I'm sure the other 2 have a future in coaching just not with us at this time This deal was only agreed recently with Frazier, the option was triggered some time ago and he would have been within his rights to take the terms but I think he genuinely wanted to help out. He knows he won't be first choice but seems to want to still be a part of things. That's my take on it anyway. Thats a good thing to hear re: Campbell. Not the sort of thing you hear much of with players. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 11, 2021 18:32:39 GMT 1
Keogh is an arsehole would have been happy to see the back of him. Do you know him? |
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Post by durhamterrier on May 11, 2021 18:32:55 GMT 1
Don’t disagree with any of the retained or released list if Keogh is to be just a back up and Bacuna and Mbenza are off.
Does make me wonder why we signed Leutweiler though . More pointless signing than Niasse
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Post by bobrobterrier on May 11, 2021 18:35:58 GMT 1
Niasse accepted a contract of £2k a week to try and stay closer to his family as his son goes to school in Merseyside. It was a low risk gamble and it didn’t pay off, and I’m saddened to hear that he may be retiring. The injury was a real freakish one. Best of luck to him in the future.
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Post by omegasupreme on May 11, 2021 18:39:20 GMT 1
He certainly does a job if your happy to have a hard worker up front with next to zero threat. Yet another absolutely shambolic show of intent from the club. May as well give Keogh and Stearman extensions as well then if that’s the level we’re aiming for. Jesus Christ. Who would you sign to come in and be third or fourth choice centre forward, just out of interest? If he’s 4th choice and his wages have been cut by 75% then fine. Unfortunately I don’t think he will be 4th choice. To answer your question I don’t know off the top of my head. My worry is that the club don’t know either because we absolutely should be aiming for better than Campbell. I would rather us look at forwards from league 2. What other championship team would Campbell get into? I don’t think he would get into any other teams starting line up. Other than working hard - what qualities has he got that make him effective? “Working hard” is not enough for a striker at this level. I’m astonished that they have not taken up the option to release one of the most impotent strikers I’ve ever seen at town. |
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Post by Big Ern on May 11, 2021 18:50:49 GMT 1
If you can answer: 1. why was Keogh offered this role rather than Stearman or Elphick? 2. what was the background to Campbell agreeing to this? Was there a gentleman's agreement / discussion avoiding a silly situation of (say) not playing Frazier so as not to trigger the extension? The first question, just down to character and aptitude I'd imagine. Keogh has been very impressive behind the scenes. I'm sure the other 2 have a future in coaching just not with us at this time This deal was only agreed recently with Frazier, the option was triggered some time ago and he would have been within his rights to take the terms but I think he genuinely wanted to help out. He knows he won't be first choice but seems to want to still be a part of things. That's my take on it anyway. If that's true then that is absolute class by Campbell. |
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Post by bluestripe on May 11, 2021 18:52:04 GMT 1
Keogh is an arsehole would have been happy to see the back of him. Not sure who's assessment of Keogh I should take on board, yours or Maynardblue's. Bloody hell. That's a tough one. |
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Post by omegasupreme on May 11, 2021 18:52:42 GMT 1
He certainly does a job if your happy to have a hard worker up front with next to zero threat. Yet another absolutely shambolic show of intent from the club. May as well give Keogh and Stearman extensions as well then if that’s the level we’re aiming for. Jesus Christ. how ignorant you are football wise “Football wise”. Yes - I’m basing my opinion on how good a footballer (or specifically a striker) he is. Whereas you seem preoccupied with how hard he works or how committed he is. So I actually think your the ignorant (possibly delusional) one. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on May 11, 2021 18:52:47 GMT 1
All looks fairly sensible bar Keogh. Don’t ever want to see him and Sarr on the same pitch together. Shame about Niasse, but looks like he might be packing in. The “player/mentor” bit on the official site is worrying. Who in their right mind thinks he has the attributes to be a role model?? What next, Adam Johnson as the child welfare officer? Comparing someone who was a passenger in a vehicle of somebody who was drink driving to a convicted paedophile is a little bit ridiculous. |
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Post by upthetown on May 11, 2021 18:53:12 GMT 1
Good interview with Schindler.
Looking forward to seeing the Pritchard leaving interview later too.
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Post by bluestripe on May 11, 2021 18:56:52 GMT 1
Niasse accepted a contract of £2k a week to try and stay closer to his family as his son goes to school in Merseyside. It was a low risk gamble and it didn’t pay off, and I’m saddened to hear that he may be retiring. The injury was a real freakish one. Best of luck to him in the future. Is the injury potentially a career threatening one? Any link? |
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Post by jakeg on May 11, 2021 18:59:00 GMT 1
Who would you sign to come in and be third or fourth choice centre forward, just out of interest? If he’s 4th choice and his wages have been cut by 75% then fine. Unfortunately I don’t think he will be 4th choice. To answer your question I don’t know off the top of my head. My worry is that the club don’t know either because we absolutely should be aiming for better than Campbell. I would rather us look at forwards from league 2. What other championship team would Campbell get into? I don’t think he would get into any other teams starting line up. Other than working hard - what qualities has he got that make him effective? “Working hard” is not enough for a striker at this level. I’m astonished that they have not taken up the option to release one of the most impotent strikers I’ve ever seen at town. Clearly never seen Chris Hay then. Or Lee Ashcroft In fact there's quite a list. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 19:00:26 GMT 1
If you can answer: 1. why was Keogh offered this role rather than Stearman or Elphick? 2. what was the background to Campbell agreeing to this? Was there a gentleman's agreement / discussion avoiding a silly situation of (say) not playing Frazier so as not to trigger the extension? The first question, just down to character and aptitude I'd imagine. Keogh has been very impressive behind the scenes. I'm sure the other 2 have a future in coaching just not with us at this time This deal was only agreed recently with Frazier, the option was triggered some time ago and he would have been within his rights to take the terms but I think he genuinely wanted to help out. He knows he won't be first choice but seems to want to still be a part of things. That's my take on it anyway. great post maynard justhow I see the situation! |
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Post by runner76 on May 11, 2021 19:00:36 GMT 1
Keogh makes perfect sense. Mentoring the younger lads and as backup, we lost 3 senior centre backs this season. Bacuna I have no issue with. I know he can be frustrating but he is a talented footballer. Even if he comes on with 30 minutes left and runs at tired defences I would have him in the squad. Mbenza must be for sell on I assume. He had a good first half of the season but really lost application after that, for whatever reason. The other retained players all good. The ones who have gone, other than Schindler, is pretty much what we all assumed. Now lets see who comes in. Exactly....it’s all about who comes in. Let’s hope at least x 6 all straight into the first team |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 19:01:44 GMT 1
how ignorant you are football wise “Football wise”. Yes - I’m basing my opinion on how good a footballer (or specifically a striker) he is. Whereas you seem preoccupied with how hard he works or how committed he is. So I actually think your the ignorant (possibly delusional) one. certainly not but your allowed your view |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on May 11, 2021 19:04:55 GMT 1
Who would you sign to come in and be third or fourth choice centre forward, just out of interest? If he’s 4th choice and his wages have been cut by 75% then fine. Unfortunately I don’t think he will be 4th choice. To answer your question I don’t know off the top of my head. My worry is that the club don’t know either because we absolutely should be aiming for better than Campbell. I would rather us look at forwards from league 2. What other championship team would Campbell get into? I don’t think he would get into any other teams starting line up. Other than working hard - what qualities has he got that make him effective? “Working hard” is not enough for a striker at this level. I’m astonished that they have not taken up the option to release one of the most impotent strikers I’ve ever seen at town. “what qualities has he got that make him effective?“ Erm, scoring some goals, one spectacular. And don’t underestimate just “working hard”. He leads by example, he has a true Terrier spirit. Definitely worth keeping in a major period of transition. |
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Post by alexdire on May 11, 2021 19:10:53 GMT 1
Given what Keogh got up to last year I wouldn't have thought we should be employing him to mentor the younger players. Hardly set a good example at Derby did he Niasse and Sonogoals leaving. Two signings that really worked out well! There was an article in the Examiner. Since Sonogo joined we got more points with him on the pitch. Than with him not playing |
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Post by Drew Peacock on May 11, 2021 19:12:39 GMT 1
Who would you sign to come in and be third or fourth choice centre forward, just out of interest? If he’s 4th choice and his wages have been cut by 75% then fine. Unfortunately I don’t think he will be 4th choice. To answer your question I don’t know off the top of my head. My worry is that the club don’t know either because we absolutely should be aiming for better than Campbell. I would rather us look at forwards from league 2. What other championship team would Campbell get into? I don’t think he would get into any other teams starting line up. Other than working hard - what qualities has he got that make him effective? “Working hard” is not enough for a striker at this level. I’m astonished that they have not taken up the option to release one of the most impotent strikers I’ve ever seen at town. What Championship team would he get into? - Not many, but he was never intended to be our starting striker. He's intended to be a squad player and would get into the squad of a good number of championship teams. |
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Post by leroy212 on May 11, 2021 19:13:13 GMT 1
The offer to Keogh is for a player/coaching role. Will only be back up with 2 new centre halves hopefully on the way. Campbell had triggered an extension on his current wages but has agreed to sign a deal on much reduced terms - well done Frazier. Not many footballers around now who would do that |
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 11, 2021 19:18:57 GMT 1
I don’t get the hatred towards Keogh one bit.
He’s had a solid career that he’s put his guts into. One mistake on a night out by being a passenger in a car doesn’t make him a bad guy.
We’ve always loved a player who gives heart and soul, especially when it is that over technique & natural ability that has elevated them to where they are.
Real hypocritical the way he is slagged off yet the likes of Bullock, Jock Morrison & Jepson are still revered. They all had far worse misdemeanours.
Give the bloke a break and trust those who work with him day in day out.
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