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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 5, 2022 7:33:38 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11.
2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green.
For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off.
Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal
Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ?
Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley.
Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship.
Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure.
No other options here ?
Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here.
Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me.
No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion.
Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ?
High - Not convinced
Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days.
Thats it no more options.
Thomas - As we all know he was terrific.
Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man.
Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him.
Rowe - Strange season and never figured.
Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team
No other options.
Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ?
Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals.
Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out.
Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality.
worrying.
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 5, 2022 7:44:16 GMT 1
didn't realise you could count! I would say some of those don't need replacing and some of those are about to be replaced. We were perfectly fine last season when Pipa, Vallejo, Eiting, Blackman, Campbell, and Anjorin weren't playing at all.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 5, 2022 7:47:24 GMT 1
Last week you’d have been saying Sarr isn’t good enough, Blackman is crap, pipa been shite since injury, eiting weak, Vallejo always injured, sinani always missing, Campbell’s legs have gone
Contracts finished at the end of last week. Loads will be just coming back off holiday. Why don’t we just wait a while before bashing the club.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 5, 2022 7:47:44 GMT 1
yes but a couple of injuries and who comes in ? Ward, Rhodes, Hogg all get injured. Holmes tweaks a hamstring and is out for 6 weeks.
Who plays then ?
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 5, 2022 7:56:59 GMT 1
Russell - Already replaced Eiting in the squad who did fuck all.
Phillips - replaces Campbell in the squad who did fuck all.
Bilokapic - replaces Blackman in the squad who did fuck all.
Rowe / Spencer - replace Pipa in the squad who did fuck all.
Boyle - replaces Sarr.
Pat Jones - replaces Anjorin in the squad who did fuck all.
Camara - replaces Vallejo in the squad who did fuck all.
Toffolo - Still here and training.
O'Brien - Still here and training.
We need to replace Sinani and Colwill, that's two players needed before any outgoings.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 5, 2022 7:58:00 GMT 1
Last week you’d have been saying Sarr isn’t good enough, Blackman is crap, pipa been shite since injury, eiting weak, Vallejo always injured, sinani always missing, Campbell’s legs have gone Contracts finished at the end of last week. Loads will be just coming back off holiday. Why don’t we just wait a while before bashing the club. Not sure where I "bashed" the club. Everything I have written is true, we have no squad. Yes some of the players, that have left wouldn't have been 1st choice, but Sarr was tremendous at the end of the season. Blackman never let us down. Eating never really got a run of games - Campbell should have left at the start of last season - Colwille was superb - Toffs and O'Brien (if they go) are major 1st team players. Really you are not concerned ? |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jul 5, 2022 8:05:40 GMT 1
Last week you’d have been saying Sarr isn’t good enough, Blackman is crap, pipa been shite since injury, eiting weak, Vallejo always injured, sinani always missing, Campbell’s legs have gone Contracts finished at the end of last week. Loads will be just coming back off holiday. Why don’t we just wait a while before bashing the club. Not sure where I "bashed" the club. Everything I have written is true, we have no squad. Yes some of the players, that have left wouldn't have been 1st choice, but Sarr was tremendous at the end of the season. Blackman never let us down. Eating never really got a run of games - Campbell should have left at the start of last season - Colwille was superb - Toffs and O'Brien (if they go) are major 1st team players. Really you are not concerned ? Nah mate - just you for now. Anyone with some perspective and common sense is just waiting to see what unfolds. |
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Post by ldotm on Jul 5, 2022 8:08:29 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. Have you ever thought about being a Drama Director? |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 5, 2022 8:09:28 GMT 1
Last week you’d have been saying Sarr isn’t good enough, Blackman is crap, pipa been shite since injury, eiting weak, Vallejo always injured, sinani always missing, Campbell’s legs have gone Contracts finished at the end of last week. Loads will be just coming back off holiday. Why don’t we just wait a while before bashing the club. Not sure where I "bashed" the club. Everything I have written is true, we have no squad. Yes some of the players, that have left wouldn't have been 1st choice, but Sarr was tremendous at the end of the season. Blackman never let us down. Eating never really got a run of games - Campbell should have left at the start of last season - Colwille was superb - Toffs and O'Brien (if they go) are major 1st team players. Really you are not concerned ? IF they go. Why would you replace two players who haven't left yet, and may not leave? |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 5, 2022 8:13:04 GMT 1
Would suggest few young players.REG,diarra,spencer,camara,Rowe may fill certain squad roles which I don’t take too much issue with as long as they aren’t relied on week in week out like Carlos’ first season.
That would then suggest that we maybe need 4/5 possibly 6 to come in.Sounds like 2 will be in in the very near future with hudlin maybe later in the week.Kasumu said to be one of the stronger midfielders in league one of his type so good signing in my opinion,if the other is Mahoney which it sounds like it is I’m willing to wait and see,if reports are to be believed he’s a very good player(potentially) who never really got a proper chance under rowett after been signed by Harris.I guess with hudlin they will hope he can progress in the b team as Russel has and midway through season will be a genuine option when others aren’t available.
After that I still think we need a 10 and another left centre half,would hope looking at prem loans for these positions.Then probably a left sided attacker/winger.If Lewis goes think needs replacing with 2 and it toff goes I would arbor he needs replacing with either someone to directly compete with ruffels or who can adequately be backup for him.No one knows the ins and outs behind the scenes but it does look as though there isn’t much of a budget in terms of fees or wages.You would predict we will regress this season in terms of league position though we probably would have anyway given that probably over achieved last season and other clubs seem to be strengthening.Not trying to be negative that just seems logical to me anyway.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 8:17:45 GMT 1
Good to see the drama queen entertaining her people in jubilee year
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jul 5, 2022 8:20:01 GMT 1
All those contracts & loans that have ended puts us in a strong position to recruit.
O'Brien, Toff situation not a lot we can do until some serious bids come in. And then we can move to our targets to replace.
We know Carlos likes strong cover for each position.
So until the window shuts no panic!
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 5, 2022 8:23:03 GMT 1
Not sure where I "bashed" the club. Everything I have written is true, we have no squad. Yes some of the players, that have left wouldn't have been 1st choice, but Sarr was tremendous at the end of the season. Blackman never let us down. Eating never really got a run of games - Campbell should have left at the start of last season - Colwille was superb - Toffs and O'Brien (if they go) are major 1st team players. Really you are not concerned ? Nah mate - just you for now. Anyone with some perspective and common sense is just waiting to see what unfolds. Time will tell.... |
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 5, 2022 8:25:17 GMT 1
Would suggest few young players.REG,diarra,spencer,camara,Rowe may fill certain squad roles which I don’t take too much issue with as long as they aren’t relied on week in week out like Carlos’ first season. That would then suggest that we maybe need 4/5 possibly 6 to come in.Sounds like 2 will be in in the very near future with hudlin maybe later in the week.Kasumu said to be one of the stronger midfielders in league one of his type so good signing in my opinion,if the other is Mahoney which it sounds like it is I’m willing to wait and see,if reports are to be believed he’s a very good player(potentially) who never really got a proper chance under rowett after been signed by Harris.I guess with hudlin they will hope he can progress in the b team as Russel has and midway through season will be a genuine option when others aren’t available. After that I still think we need a 10 and another left centre half,would hope looking at prem loans for these positions.Then probably a left sided attacker/winger.If Lewis goes think needs replacing with 2 and it toff goes I would arbor he needs replacing with either someone to directly compete with ruffels or who can adequately be backup for him.No one knows the ins and outs behind the scenes but it does look as though there isn’t much of a budget in terms of fees or wages.You would predict we will regress this season in terms of league position though we probably would have anyway given that probably over achieved last season and other clubs seem to be strengthening.Not trying to be negative that just seems logical to me anyway. sensible reply as opposed to some of the more childish ones, which seems to be what most of the replies are now on this forum. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 5, 2022 8:33:38 GMT 1
Would suggest few young players.REG,diarra,spencer,camara,Rowe may fill certain squad roles which I don’t take too much issue with as long as they aren’t relied on week in week out like Carlos’ first season. That would then suggest that we maybe need 4/5 possibly 6 to come in.Sounds like 2 will be in in the very near future with hudlin maybe later in the week.Kasumu said to be one of the stronger midfielders in league one of his type so good signing in my opinion,if the other is Mahoney which it sounds like it is I’m willing to wait and see,if reports are to be believed he’s a very good player(potentially) who never really got a proper chance under rowett after been signed by Harris.I guess with hudlin they will hope he can progress in the b team as Russel has and midway through season will be a genuine option when others aren’t available. After that I still think we need a 10 and another left centre half,would hope looking at prem loans for these positions.Then probably a left sided attacker/winger.If Lewis goes think needs replacing with 2 and it toff goes I would arbor he needs replacing with either someone to directly compete with ruffels or who can adequately be backup for him.No one knows the ins and outs behind the scenes but it does look as though there isn’t much of a budget in terms of fees or wages.You would predict we will regress this season in terms of league position though we probably would have anyway given that probably over achieved last season and other clubs seem to be strengthening.Not trying to be negative that just seems logical to me anyway. sensible reply as opposed to some of the more childish ones, which seems to be what most of the replies are now on this forum. You might find that on an Internet forum childish posts get childish replies. We’re on the 5th July ffs |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 5, 2022 8:40:10 GMT 1
Last week you’d have been saying Sarr isn’t good enough, Blackman is crap, pipa been shite since injury, eiting weak, Vallejo always injured, sinani always missing, Campbell’s legs have gone Contracts finished at the end of last week. Loads will be just coming back off holiday. Why don’t we just wait a while before bashing the club. Not sure where I "bashed" the club. Everything I have written is true, we have no squad. Yes some of the players, that have left wouldn't have been 1st choice, but Sarr was tremendous at the end of the season. Blackman never let us down. Eating never really got a run of games - Campbell should have left at the start of last season - Colwille was superb - Toffs and O'Brien (if they go) are major 1st team players. Really you are not concerned ? Sounds like you’re bashing the club to me Let’s try stay calm and let the club do it’s business. Fingers crossed they have a similar success rate to last 18 months or so. Although that’s a tough ask |
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Post by runner76 on Jul 5, 2022 8:43:54 GMT 1
Forget the quantity it’s the quality we need to worry about.
In reality if that is 11 IMO there is an effective loss of 4 first team players and a couple of backups.
If those 11 go we need to be getting minimum 4 quality first team players in to plug the gap
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 5, 2022 8:45:35 GMT 1
We have strength in depth still. Look who could play at at each position. Does this look like a squad that's missing 9 crucial members?
Keepers: Nicholls, Bilokapic, Schofield
Right footed centre backs: Lees, Pearson, REG, Hogg
Left footed centre backs: Boyle (we need another to come in here)
Right backs/wing backs: Turton, Rowe, REG, Pearson, Spencer
Left backs/wing backs: Toffolo, Ruffels, Jackson, Rowe
Defensive midfielders: Hogg, (we need another first teamer, and probably are about to announce Kasumu), Camara
Centre mids: O'Brien, Russell, High
Wingers and attacking mids: Thomas, Koroma, Holmes, Aarons, Jones, Grant, Diarra
Strikers: Ward, Rhodes, Phillips (I imagine he'll be off on loan)
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 5, 2022 8:48:36 GMT 1
I'm sure Maynard said two more deals were being done yesterday? That will make it 4 in with plenty of time in the window (almost 2 months) before it closes.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 5, 2022 9:11:46 GMT 1
I'm sure Maynard said two more deals were being done yesterday? That will make it 4 in with plenty of time in the window (almost 2 months) before it closes. Yeah but but, they’ll be shit free transfers just like every summer, mk dons second choice left back and Luton and Massive cast offs 😂😂😂 |
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Post by boooothy on Jul 5, 2022 9:12:33 GMT 1
Can’t disagree with the post, i’m concerned.
It’s still early though and no idea what’s going on in the background but right now our squad minus LOB is weaker than the one that nearly got us relegated. Fingers crossed the incoming are more exciting than Will Boyle.
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Post by bentley316 on Jul 5, 2022 9:14:51 GMT 1
Personally, compared to last season the only real misses are Sarr, Pipa, Colwill and Sinani.
Boyle has replaced Sarr which leaves 3 big gaps to actual first teamers. Hopefully there is some quality coming in to replace them.
Everyone else didn't play enough to warrant concern or just werent good enough anymore. People like Vallejo, Campbell and even Eitings contributions are easily replaceable by B team and youth players
If we dont have 4 or 5 through the door in the next week and a half. Then ill start getting concerned about depth but as others have said, loans from Prem teams are always late in the window and out of contracts have only just kicked in.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Jul 5, 2022 9:15:38 GMT 1
Every year we get threads like this. And every year it’s weeks before the transfer window shuts!
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Post by Dan on Jul 5, 2022 9:19:29 GMT 1
Every year we get threads like this. And every year it’s weeks before the transfer window shuts! And every year its the same bore offs that start them |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 5, 2022 9:24:20 GMT 1
Only thing 'bothering me' is that if 14 or 15 million is sitting in our squad in 2 outgoings, then they should be gone asap in order to replace them asap.
That 14 or 15 million may well be the difference between the recruitment of this player or these players and some other player or players that might be further up our 'wanted' list??
The difference may be players we want but have a fee and players on frees who we would 'settle' for or differences in wages for frees???
Have always thought getting the decks clear asap in off season was hugely important ...
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 5, 2022 9:25:52 GMT 1
sensible reply as opposed to some of the more childish ones, which seems to be what most of the replies are now on this forum. You might find that on an Internet forum childish posts get childish replies. We’re on the 5th July ffs 3 weeks and 3 days until our first competitive fixture kicks off, with a head coach that tends to need plenty of time to get players up to speed. |
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Post by Metch on Jul 5, 2022 9:27:14 GMT 1
One thing I've learnt from last year is to have a bit more faith in Carlos and Bromby. No need to panic, looking forward to see what Carlos can do with the youngsters, Jones and Camara particularly.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 5, 2022 9:32:00 GMT 1
Only thing 'bothering me' is that if 14 or 15 million is sitting in our squad in 2 outgoings, then they should be gone asap in order to replace them asap. That 14 or 15 million may well be the difference between the recruitment of this player or these players and some other player or players that might be further up our 'wanted' list?? The difference may be players we want but have a fee and players on frees who we would 'settle' for or differences in wages for frees??? Have always thought getting the decks clear asap in off season was hugely important ... Allegedly Lewis and toffs have folk interested in them. But until someone puts in proper bids we can’t do anything about it. I realise in an ideal world they’d be gone by now if they’re going but the clubs stance for some time now has been pay the price or bugger off. Obvs that’s not been ideal when transfers have run well into the season |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 5, 2022 9:39:17 GMT 1
You might find that on an Internet forum childish posts get childish replies. We’re on the 5th July ffs 3 weeks and 3 days until our first competitive fixture kicks off, with a head coach that tends to need plenty of time to get players up to speed. Would much rather we get the right players who fit the club than panic and spend for the sake of it on players who aren’t right , we’ve been down that road before. |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jul 5, 2022 9:39:43 GMT 1
I have a mild concern, but only mild. We clearly have irons in the fire. The original post presumes Toff and LOB are going. They many not - we will no doubt have plans in place to replace them - things have to run their course. of those who have actually left, we have deals in the offing plus some very, very promising young prospects to come through.
Like I say, a mild concern. But my knickers remain un-knotted, as should everyone's.
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