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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 9:41:56 GMT 1
Also, other clubs stances will be "pay more or you're not having him " or " we aren't letting him go until we have the replacement guaranteed " . Hence why so many "deadline day" signings . Its the business of football. It is what it is .
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Post by bentley316 on Jul 5, 2022 9:44:27 GMT 1
I have a mild concern, but only mild. We clearly have irons in the fire. The original post presumes Toff and LOB are going. They many not - we will no doubt have plans in place to replace them - things have to run their course. of those who have actually left, we have deals in the offing plus some very, very promising young prospects to come through. Like I say, a mild concern. But my knickers remain un-knotted, as should everyone's. Agreed. Most people thought O Brien was 100% gone last summer and he stayed. Same as people thought the players we got in were underwhelming. We don't learn about assuming do we.š |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 9:53:29 GMT 1
One thing I've learnt from last year is to have a bit more faith in Carlos and Bromby. No need to panic, looking forward to see what Carlos can do with the youngsters, Jones and Camara particularly. The one thing I learnt from last season, it was to get business done early including loans. That was what we did different last year compared to previous years since relegation. Every year weāve gone into the season unprepared weāve had a relegation fight. Last year we were prepared and look at the resultsā¦ they are there for all to see. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 5, 2022 10:04:46 GMT 1
Only thing 'bothering me' is that if 14 or 15 million is sitting in our squad in 2 outgoings, then they should be gone asap in order to replace them asap. That 14 or 15 million may well be the difference between the recruitment of this player or these players and some other player or players that might be further up our 'wanted' list?? The difference may be players we want but have a fee and players on frees who we would 'settle' for or differences in wages for frees??? Have always thought getting the decks clear asap in off season was hugely important ... Allegedly Lewis and toffs have folk interested in them. But until someone puts in proper bids we canāt do anything about it. I realise in an ideal world theyād be gone by now if theyāre going but the clubs stance for some time now has been pay the price or bugger off. Obvs thatās not been ideal when transfers have run well into the season Yeah, just trying to point out the quandry we are in with 15 million in 2 players who are alledgedly going but are still here. We may well spend some or all of that income and it may well affect the wages we are looking at for free transfers so our activity until they are sorted one way or the other is badly affected? Many other clubs in the division are not sitting on players worth that much who may well be leaving, so their targets and finances are much more defined? |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 5, 2022 10:17:49 GMT 1
One thing I've learnt from last year is to have a bit more faith in Carlos and Bromby. No need to panic, looking forward to see what Carlos can do with the youngsters, Jones and Camara particularly. The one thing I learnt from last season, it was to get business done early including loans. That was what we did different last year compared to previous years since relegation. Every year weāve gone into the season unprepared weāve had a relegation fight. Last year we were prepared and look at the resultsā¦ they are there for all to see. I get that but the starting 11 that will start 90% of the time remains largely unchanged |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 10:20:43 GMT 1
One thing I've learnt from last year is to have a bit more faith in Carlos and Bromby. No need to panic, looking forward to see what Carlos can do with the youngsters, Jones and Camara particularly. The one thing I learnt from last season, it was to get business done early including loans. That was what we did different last year compared to previous years since relegation. Every year weāve gone into the season unprepared weāve had a relegation fight. Last year we were prepared and look at the resultsā¦ they are there for all to see. Would you rather get shit in who are available or work as hard as we can to get the best in we can in the quickest time possible? Cos that's what we're doing |
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Post by ruggedivy on Jul 5, 2022 10:27:24 GMT 1
Honestly donāt know what the panic is all about.
There has barely been any business been done across the division. Several teams havenāt even signed players. The 3 teams that have come down donāt look like they are going to throw money at it.
After last season I have 100% faith Carlos and Leigh Bromby know what they are doing and can build a team capabale to fight at the top end of the league!
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 10:28:55 GMT 1
The one thing I learnt from last season, it was to get business done early including loans. That was what we did different last year compared to previous years since relegation. Every year weāve gone into the season unprepared weāve had a relegation fight. Last year we were prepared and look at the resultsā¦ they are there for all to see. I get that but the starting 11 that will start 90% of the time remains largely unchanged Sinani and Colwill are the two going we need to replace ASAP. If we sell Toff and OāBrien, we arenāt doing anything early in the season. We'll have a new left side of our defence that needs to integrate. That doesnāt happen in a week. Confidence is very important to getting on winning runs. Our left side defence then needs to build a combination with our left midfielder. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 10:29:49 GMT 1
The one thing I learnt from last season, it was to get business done early including loans. That was what we did different last year compared to previous years since relegation. Every year weāve gone into the season unprepared weāve had a relegation fight. Last year we were prepared and look at the resultsā¦ they are there for all to see. Would you rather get shit in who are available or work as hard as we can to get the best in we can in the quickest time possible? Cos that's what we're doing Yeah because thatās what I said, letās sign shit š¤ |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 10:31:05 GMT 1
Would you rather get shit in who are available or work as hard as we can to get the best in we can in the quickest time possible? Cos that's what we're doing Yeah because thatās what I said, letās sign shit š¤ I didn't day you did .. and you didn't answer my question . Seriously do you not think that people aren't working around the clock trying to get the players in ? |
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Post by Metch on Jul 5, 2022 10:43:10 GMT 1
It was clear last season that our defence was shit so Carlos and Bromby must have been working on sorting that out from before the season end, hence the early arrival of Lees, Colwill and Pearson.
We aren't in such dire straits this year.
The rejection of Sinani makes me think we have someone identified to replace him. I suspect we have a couple of quality loans to come in too. Anything else depends on Toffs and LOB moving on.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 10:59:49 GMT 1
It was clear last season that our defence was shit so Carlos and Bromby must have been working on sorting that out from before the season end, hence the early arrival of Lees, Colwill and Pearson. We aren't in such dire straits this year. The rejection of Sinani makes me think we have someone identified to replace him. I suspect we have a couple of quality loans to come in too. Anything else depends on Toffs and LOB moving on. Didn't Lees come in last minute when we decided to bin off keogh ? |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 11:03:18 GMT 1
Yeah because thatās what I said, letās sign shit š¤ I didn't day you did .. and you didn't answer my question . Seriously do you not think that people aren't working around the clock trying to get the players in ? I didnāt say people arenāt working around the clock but the facts are the clock is ticking. In any recruitment we do we no doubt have a list of targets. Just because we donāt sign the top target doesnāt mean we sign shit. It just means that player at the top of the list needs to be convinced(by money or whatever means possible) or we move on. The reality is that all last seasonās targets wanted to be here and the business was done quickly. Although I have used money as an example of convincing a player, last season taught us that a player that wants to be here is extremely valuable and will sign on early in the piece. We finished third because people wanted to be here. Have we changed our recruitment policy? The ex lad who already signed says not entirely, but the waiting for top targets to make up their mind, says yes. Letās take a look at some names we bought after waiting until late in the window because we missed our top targets: Missed Adama Traore, signed Mbenza. Also look at who we replaced late leaving players with: Mooy sold late, signed that old washed up lad from Leicester on loan (Andy King). Smith sold late, signed the other old lad from Leicester(Simpson) Mounie sold late and Ward brought in. Grant sold late and Aarons bought in. Weāve had shockers until last year and it was directly because we done our business early and gave our manager a chance. What that tells me is the Championship is as much about getting yourself organised early if you donāt have a budget, proven by us and Luton. The excuse of no other team is making signingsā¦ well only 2 will be promoted automatically and 4 more will be in a playoff for the final place. If we want to be like all the other teams, might as well put us in the bottom 18 teams. Or we can be like Town and Luton last year, getting your shit done early and giving ourselves a chance. |
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Post by prepare on Jul 5, 2022 11:59:49 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. |
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Post by prepare on Jul 5, 2022 12:00:42 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 5, 2022 12:02:38 GMT 1
I didn't day you did .. and you didn't answer my question . Seriously do you not think that people aren't working around the clock trying to get the players in ? I didnāt say people arenāt working around the clock but the facts are the clock is ticking. In any recruitment we do we no doubt have a list of targets. Just because we donāt sign the top target doesnāt mean we sign shit. It just means that player at the top of the list needs to be convinced(by money or whatever means possible) or we move on. The reality is that all last seasonās targets wanted to be here and the business was done quickly. Although I have used money as an example of convincing a player, last season taught us that a player that wants to be here is extremely valuable and will sign on early in the piece. We finished third because people wanted to be here. Have we changed our recruitment policy? The ex lad who already signed says not entirely, but the waiting for top targets to make up their mind, says yes. Letās take a look at some names we bought after waiting until late in the window because we missed our top targets: Missed Adama Traore, signed Mbenza. Also look at who we replaced late leaving players with: Mooy sold late, signed that old washed up lad from Leicester on loan (Andy King). Smith sold late, signed the other old lad from Leicester(Simpson) Mounie sold late and Ward brought in. Grant sold late and Aarons bought in. Weāve had shockers until last year and it was directly because we done our business early and gave our manager a chance. What that tells me is the Championship is as much about getting yourself organised early if you donāt have a budget, proven by us and Luton. The excuse of no other team is making signingsā¦ well only 2 will be promoted automatically and 4 more will be in a playoff for the final place. If we want to be like all the other teams, might as well put us in the bottom 18 teams. Or we can be like Town and Luton last year, getting your shit done early and giving ourselves a chance. Whilst I agree with a lot you say,mainly that doing business early is always beneficial,we do have to take into account that other clubs have had 2/3 extra weeks on us to put things in place.Also we donāt know whether players have been identified,lined up and then just not been signed off on therefore they have gone elsewhere.The types of players we are going for this year may also have more admirers and therefore negotiations take longer,whether that be with the player themselves,the club they are at if not out of contract,or both. Like you say the early business last season helped us do what we did but if this year getting a player to the club is more difficult thatās just how it is I guess.There is also no guarantees that having plans in place and getting business done early does have the benefits you would think,I mean logically it should but no reason players canāt come in in a week or so and still do well. Slightly loose example but we probably didnāt plan on sorba doing what he did this season,he did well pre season and club maybe took a gamble on not bringing someone in instead. |
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Post by prepare on Jul 5, 2022 12:04:50 GMT 1
Wait till the transfer window closes till then calm down there will be players in that is for durr
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 5, 2022 12:20:14 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. The window is open until 1st September, calm down FFS. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 12:29:58 GMT 1
I didnāt say people arenāt working around the clock but the facts are the clock is ticking. In any recruitment we do we no doubt have a list of targets. Just because we donāt sign the top target doesnāt mean we sign shit. It just means that player at the top of the list needs to be convinced(by money or whatever means possible) or we move on. The reality is that all last seasonās targets wanted to be here and the business was done quickly. Although I have used money as an example of convincing a player, last season taught us that a player that wants to be here is extremely valuable and will sign on early in the piece. We finished third because people wanted to be here. Have we changed our recruitment policy? The ex lad who already signed says not entirely, but the waiting for top targets to make up their mind, says yes. Letās take a look at some names we bought after waiting until late in the window because we missed our top targets: Missed Adama Traore, signed Mbenza. Also look at who we replaced late leaving players with: Mooy sold late, signed that old washed up lad from Leicester on loan (Andy King). Smith sold late, signed the other old lad from Leicester(Simpson) Mounie sold late and Ward brought in. Grant sold late and Aarons bought in. Weāve had shockers until last year and it was directly because we done our business early and gave our manager a chance. What that tells me is the Championship is as much about getting yourself organised early if you donāt have a budget, proven by us and Luton. The excuse of no other team is making signingsā¦ well only 2 will be promoted automatically and 4 more will be in a playoff for the final place. If we want to be like all the other teams, might as well put us in the bottom 18 teams. Or we can be like Town and Luton last year, getting your shit done early and giving ourselves a chance. Whilst I agree with a lot you say,mainly that doing business early is always beneficial,we do have to take into account that other clubs have had 2/3 extra weeks on us to put things in place.Also we donāt know whether players have been identified,lined up and then just not been signed off on therefore they have gone elsewhere.The types of players we are going for this year may also have more admirers and therefore negotiations take longer,whether that be with the player themselves,the club they are at if not out of contract,or both. Like you say the early business last season helped us do what we did but if this year getting a player to the club is more difficult thatās just how it is I guess.There is also no guarantees that having plans in place and getting business done early does have the benefits you would think,I mean logically it should but no reason players canāt come in in a week or so and still do well. Slightly loose example but we probably didnāt plan on sorba doing what he did this season,he did well pre season and club maybe took a gamble on not bringing someone in instead. I agree with a lot of what you say too. It really is a fine balance between getting your preferred target and getting them in with enough time for the manager to drill his style/game plan into them. Iām not trying to say we must have players tomorrow, what Iām saying is there is basis for those starting to get nervous about no first team players through the door. Rather than calling them bed wetters(not saying you did), a conversation/debate about the pros and cons of waiting v going early is probably more appropriate. Iāll be nervous if we donāt have 3-4 preseason games minimum to bed in a left CB and if Toff goes a LB with the rest of our defence. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 12:35:43 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. The window is open until 1st September, calm down FFS. 7 games before the window shuts. Including Burnley, Norwich, West Brom, Birmingham, Stoke and Coventry. I hope we donāt have a Grant situation with OāBrien sitting out until heās out the door. Itās a tough start, we need to be prepared and positive to get off to a good start. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 5, 2022 12:36:19 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. Also in - Jones Phillips, Diarra , Bilokapic. As presume your logic was players out on loan last season? |
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Post by willo on Jul 5, 2022 12:39:07 GMT 1
One thing I've learnt from last year is to have a bit more faith in Carlos and Bromby. No need to panic, looking forward to see what Carlos can do with the youngsters, Jones and Camara particularly. šš» |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 5, 2022 12:51:26 GMT 1
I get that but the starting 11 that will start 90% of the time remains largely unchanged Sinani and Colwill are the two going we need to replace ASAP. If we sell Toff and OāBrien, we arenāt doing anything early in the season. We'll have a new left side of our defence that needs to integrate. That doesnāt happen in a week. Confidence is very important to getting on winning runs. Our left side defence then needs to build a combination with our left midfielder. Agree those are the two that definitely need replacing before the window shuts, though I still don't think they are so urgent that we need them in right now. Colwill only started 60% of our league games last season, we have enough quality in defence to start the season with if we have to wait. Sinani started 73% of our league games, though was subbed off in pretty much every game he started and wasn't rated by the majority (not including myself). We still have Holmes and Koroma who can cover that position for the time being if we need to wait a few more weeks. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 12:51:40 GMT 1
Great quoting there Positive
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 13:00:09 GMT 1
I didn't day you did .. and you didn't answer my question . Seriously do you not think that people aren't working around the clock trying to get the players in ? I didnāt say people arenāt working around the clock but the facts are the clock is ticking. I DIDNT SAY YOU DID .. AGAIN In any recruitment we do we no doubt have a list of targets. Just because we donāt sign the top target doesnāt mean we sign shit. I KNOW It just means that player at the top of the list needs to be convinced(by money or whatever means possible) or we move on .. OK . The reality is that all last seasonās targets wanted to be here and the business was done quickly. SINANI , LEES ? JUST SAYING Although I have used money as an example of convincing a player, last season taught us that a player that wants to be here is extremely valuable and will sign on early in the piece. HAS IT , We finished third because people wanted to be here. DID WE REALLY ? Have we changed our recruitment policy? IM SURE WE HAVENT. The ex lad who already signed says not entirely, but the waiting for top targets to make up their mind, says yes. BULLSHIT Letās take a look at some names we bought after waiting until late in the window because we missed our top targets: Missed Adama Traore, signed Mbenza. POiNT BEING , Also look at who we replaced late leaving players with: Mooy sold late, signed that old washed up lad from Leicester on loan (Andy King). Smith sold late, signed the other old lad from Leicester(Simpson) Mounie sold late and Ward brought in. Grant sold late and Aarons bought in. COOl Weāve had shockers until last year and it was directly because we done our business early and gave our manager a chance. What that tells me is the Championship is as much about getting yourself organised early if you donāt have a budget, proven by us and Luton. PROVEN BY US . YOUVE JUST SAID IT (HAVE FAITH ) The excuse of no other team is making signingsā¦ well only 2 will be promoted automatically and 4 more will be in a playoff for the final place. If we want to be like all the other teams, might as well put us in the bottom 18 teams. Or we can be like Town and Luton last year, getting your shit done early and giving ourselves a chance. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR WORk ? IS YOUR LIFE ALWAYS SO SIMPlE ? |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 13:01:59 GMT 1
Sinani and Colwill are the two going we need to replace ASAP. If we sell Toff and OāBrien, we arenāt doing anything early in the season. We'll have a new left side of our defence that needs to integrate. That doesnāt happen in a week. Confidence is very important to getting on winning runs. Our left side defence then needs to build a combination with our left midfielder. Agree those are the two that definitely need replacing before the window shuts, though I still don't think they are so urgent that we need them in right now. Colwill only started 60% of our league games last season, we have enough quality in defence to start the season with if we have to wait. Sinani started 73% of our league games, though was subbed off in pretty much every game he started and wasn't rated by the majority (not including myself). We still have Holmes and Koroma who can cover that position for the time being if we need to wait a few more weeks. Fair point that Colwill didnāt start nearly as much as youād think. Sinani was definitely a polarising player amongst the fans, but I think he started more often because of the formations and his versatility. Holmes and Koroma tended not to like the right side so much, so we are definitely in need of a left footer, who it sounds like is lined up. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 5, 2022 13:05:55 GMT 1
I didnāt say people arenāt working around the clock but the facts are the clock is ticking. I DIDNT SAY YOU DID .. AGAIN In any recruitment we do we no doubt have a list of targets. Just because we donāt sign the top target doesnāt mean we sign shit. I KNOW It just means that player at the top of the list needs to be convinced(by money or whatever means possible) or we move on .. OK . The reality is that all last seasonās targets wanted to be here and the business was done quickly. SINANI , LEES ? JUST SAYING Although I have used money as an example of convincing a player, last season taught us that a player that wants to be here is extremely valuable and will sign on early in the piece. HAS IT , We finished third because people wanted to be here. DID WE REALLY ? Have we changed our recruitment policy? IM SURE WE HAVENT. The ex lad who already signed says not entirely, but the waiting for top targets to make up their mind, says yes. BULLSHIT Letās take a look at some names we bought after waiting until late in the window because we missed our top targets: Missed Adama Traore, signed Mbenza. POiNT BEING , Also look at who we replaced late leaving players with: Mooy sold late, signed that old washed up lad from Leicester on loan (Andy King). Smith sold late, signed the other old lad from Leicester(Simpson) Mounie sold late and Ward brought in. Grant sold late and Aarons bought in. COOl Weāve had shockers until last year and it was directly because we done our business early and gave our manager a chance. What that tells me is the Championship is as much about getting yourself organised early if you donāt have a budget, proven by us and Luton. PROVEN BY US . YOUVE JUST SAID IT (HAVE FAITH ) The excuse of no other team is making signingsā¦ well only 2 will be promoted automatically and 4 more will be in a playoff for the final place. If we want to be like all the other teams, might as well put us in the bottom 18 teams. Or we can be like Town and Luton last year, getting your shit done early and giving ourselves a chance. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR WORk ? IS YOUR LIFE ALWAYS SO SIMPlE ? Awww fuck meā¦ youāve gone all positive on me, unintelligible. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 13:13:42 GMT 1
Ok I'm out
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Post by flevans on Jul 5, 2022 13:21:59 GMT 1
Great chat guys, always good to pop in and see what's what
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 5, 2022 13:23:31 GMT 1
3 weeks and 3 days until our first competitive fixture kicks off, with a head coach that tends to need plenty of time to get players up to speed. Would much rather we get the right players who fit the club than panic and spend for the sake of it on players who arenāt right , weāve been down that road before. So would I, but according to the OS we have 19 players registered for the first team & Toffolo & o'Brien look very likely to leave. We need 18 to put out a matchday squad. So if we end up selling those 2 (or indeed any 2) we start the season with at least one player in the matchday squad who is either currently a B Teamer or a first teamer that's missed part of preseason. And that's if we have no injuries. I'm not panicking. I'm not condemning the club for its approach (I'd rather we signed nobody at all than chuck millions at someone on the last day just to get another Mbenza). Just explaining why although my keks remain unsoiled, the tummy is making some uncomfortable sounds and I'm glancing nervously at the bathroom. |
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