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Post by richhtfc on Jul 5, 2022 13:33:33 GMT 1
Would much rather we get the right players who fit the club than panic and spend for the sake of it on players who aren’t right , we’ve been down that road before. So would I, but according to the OS we have 19 players registered for the first team & Toffolo & o'Brien look very likely to leave. We need 18 to put out a matchday squad. So if we end up selling those 2 (or indeed any 2) we start the season with at least one player in the matchday squad who is either currently a B Teamer or a first teamer that's missed part of preseason. And that's if we have no injuries. I'm not panicking. I'm not condemning the club for its approach (I'd rather we signed nobody at all than chuck millions at someone on the last day just to get another Mbenza). Just explaining why although my keks remain unsoiled, the tummy is making some uncomfortable sounds and I'm glancing nervously at the bathroom. Know what you’re saying but I trust the club to get it right, think they deserve some faith/patience after last season. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 5, 2022 13:45:37 GMT 1
I trust the club, Bromby et al to do the best they can for the club. Sometimes you'll have everything fall into place re transfers - as we did last season - and sometimes you won't.
I've not got high expectations next season. TBH I'll be surprised if we make top half. That doesn't mean I think the club are necessarily doing anything wrong.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 5, 2022 14:01:39 GMT 1
I trust the club, Bromby et al to do the best they can for the club. Sometimes you'll have everything fall into place re transfers - as we did last season - and sometimes you won't. I've not got high expectations next season. TBH I'll be surprised if we make top half. That doesn't mean I think the club are necessarily doing anything wrong. When you consider that we did probably over achieve with the squad last year it’s probably natural to think we will go backwards slightly.I think how we played last year changing his original philosophy helped us get many of the results we did,playing counter attack football and using set pieces to our advantage. Many before Christmas would say the football wasn’t very good and even boring,I wouldn’t go that far but would expect Carlos to try progress that style of play this year to be more attractive to watch and having more of the ball.That probably would require adding some quality on the ball into the squad so it’s a tough ask if we don’t get all the players required.I’d expect maybe another transitional season(although in terms of style and not transitional in the sense of the premier league fallout and getting rid of players)Think as it stands with little injury problems would expect mid table,if we add the quality top 10 and upwards,if we add the quality but lose a couple who knows.It’s such a juggling act,stray too far from what made us good last year and could go completely tits up. Hopefully that makes some sort of sense as think iv confused myself almost trying to make too many points. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 5, 2022 14:23:54 GMT 1
I trust the club, Bromby et al to do the best they can for the club. Sometimes you'll have everything fall into place re transfers - as we did last season - and sometimes you won't. I've not got high expectations next season. TBH I'll be surprised if we make top half. That doesn't mean I think the club are necessarily doing anything wrong. When you consider that we did probably over achieve with the squad last year it’s probably natural to think we will go backwards slightly.I think how we played last year changing his original philosophy helped us get many of the results we did,playing counter attack football and using set pieces to our advantage. Many before Christmas would say the football wasn’t very good and even boring,I wouldn’t go that far but would expect Carlos to try progress that style of play this year to be more attractive to watch and having more of the ball.That probably would require adding some quality on the ball into the squad so it’s a tough ask if we don’t get all the players required.I’d expect maybe another transitional season(although in terms of style and not transitional in the sense of the premier league fallout and getting rid of players)Think as it stands with little injury problems would expect mid table,if we add the quality top 10 and upwards,if we add the quality but lose a couple who knows.It’s such a juggling act,stray too far from what made us good last year and could go completely tits up. Hopefully that makes some sort of sense as think iv confused myself almost trying to make too many points. Made sense to me, & I broadly agree. |
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Post by mosher on Jul 5, 2022 15:11:59 GMT 1
Wait till the transfer window closes till then calm down there will be players in that is for durr Are you sure you're not the artist formerly know as positive? Same duplicated quotes, same shit spelling, same atrocious grammar, same "wait and see, what will be will be" style end to virtually every post? |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 5, 2022 15:24:24 GMT 1
I trust the club, Bromby et al to do the best they can for the club. Sometimes you'll have everything fall into place re transfers - as we did last season - and sometimes you won't. I've not got high expectations next season. TBH I'll be surprised if we make top half. That doesn't mean I think the club are necessarily doing anything wrong. When you consider that we did probably over achieve with the squad last year it’s probably natural to think we will go backwards slightly.I think how we played last year changing his original philosophy helped us get many of the results we did,playing counter attack football and using set pieces to our advantage. Many before Christmas would say the football wasn’t very good and even boring,I wouldn’t go that far but would expect Carlos to try progress that style of play this year to be more attractive to watch and having more of the ball.That probably would require adding some quality on the ball into the squad so it’s a tough ask if we don’t get all the players required.I’d expect maybe another transitional season(although in terms of style and not transitional in the sense of the premier league fallout and getting rid of players)Think as it stands with little injury problems would expect mid table,if we add the quality top 10 and upwards,if we add the quality but lose a couple who knows.It’s such a juggling act,stray too far from what made us good last year and could go completely tits up. Hopefully that makes some sort of sense as think iv confused myself almost trying to make too many points. Pretty sure I’ve seen the club say that last years priority was to sort the defence out and this years is to focus more on the attack. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 5, 2022 15:38:02 GMT 1
Every year we get threads like this. And every year it’s weeks before the transfer window shuts! And every year its the same bore offs that start them Childish response. Clearly you lack the intelligence to respond with an opinion. |
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Post by Scott Chegg on Jul 5, 2022 15:38:41 GMT 1
Wait till the transfer window closes till then calm down there will be players in that is for durr Are you sure you're not the artist formerly know as positive? Same duplicated quotes, same shit spelling, same atrocious grammar, same "wait and see, what will be will be" style end to virtually every post? I think it's fair to say that it's been established conclusively that he is positive. I'm positive that whatever name he posts under he will never understand the point of a football fans' forum, nor the basic facets of the English language in written form. Which makes almost every post he creates pointless and utterly unintelligible. And that's before we get into the conceited, condescending tone of those few posts I can decipher. Apart from that he's a great poster 👍 |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 5, 2022 15:39:28 GMT 1
Are you sure you're not the artist formerly know as positive? Same duplicated quotes, same shit spelling, same atrocious grammar, same "wait and see, what will be will be" style end to virtually every post? I think it's fair to say that it's been established conclusively that he is positive. I'm positive that whatever name he posts under he will never understand the point of a football fans' forum, nor the basic facets of the English language in written form. Which makes almost every post he creates pointless and utterly unintelligible. And that's before we get into the conceited, condescending tone of those few posts I can decipher. Apart from that he's a great poster 👍 It's 100% positive. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 5, 2022 16:32:27 GMT 1
Wait till the transfer window closes till then calm down there will be players in that is for durr Are you sure you're not the artist formerly know as positive? Same duplicated quotes, same shit spelling, same atrocious grammar, same "wait and see, what will be will be" style end to virtually every post? Course it is |
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Post by upthetown on Jul 5, 2022 16:51:26 GMT 1
Are you sure you're not the artist formerly know as positive? Same duplicated quotes, same shit spelling, same atrocious grammar, same "wait and see, what will be will be" style end to virtually every post? Course it is Wait and see… |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 5, 2022 17:12:33 GMT 1
Seems to be, more so by the day,that we are waiting to shift O'Brien and/or Toffolo before we splash into the transfer market, certainly for anyone for cash. I'm not convinced O'Brien is such high demand, certainly not for the price tag Town are talking, whether he will go for the price required remains to be seen.
There seems to be a popular consensus that players are on holiday and that contracts finish on the 30th June, both may well be true but neither stop players signing for new clubs.
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Post by dm on Jul 5, 2022 17:18:07 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. Without reading the thread: Sarr - didn't play a massive amount in this most recent season. Many fans slagged him off throughout his time here. Blackman - barely played, didn't look AMAZING on the couple of occasions he did. Pipa - started well, got injured then struggled to return to his best. Couldn't oust 'not good enough for the Championship' Turton. Campbell - 0 games(?) last season. Not amazing before that. EDIT - Wikipedia says he made 20 appearances last season. 0 goals. I don't remember seeing a second of him. Colwill - he's a big miss but missed a number of games. He's the only one I'd class as a big miss. Could be replaced (to some degree) with a PL loan. Anjorin - barely played. Eiting - barely played. Vallejo - barely played. Sinani - on his day could be really good, didn't have THAT many where he was at the races for the full game. Set pieces might be missed as it was good having quality from a left foot to complement Thomas' right foot. Summary - we haven't lost too much, there's still time for that to change. |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 5, 2022 18:25:38 GMT 1
Seems to be, more so by the day,that we are waiting to shift O'Brien and/or Toffolo before we splash into the transfer market, certainly for anyone for cash. I'm not convinced O'Brien is such high demand, certainly not for the price tag Town are talking, whether he will go for the price required remains to be seen. There seems to be a popular consensus that players are on holiday and that contracts finish on the 30th June, both may well be true but neither stop players signing for new clubs. Think it’s of more of ‘see if anyone comes in’ than ‘waiting to shift’, it certainly doesn’t sound like we’re touting them to the market. If no one comes in for O’Brien great no replacement needed same with Toff although it means we would potentially have to find a replacement before he leaves on a free. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 18:27:09 GMT 1
Seems to be, more so by the day,that we are waiting to shift O'Brien and/or Toffolo before we splash into the transfer market, certainly for anyone for cash. I'm not convinced O'Brien is such high demand, certainly not for the price tag Town are talking, whether he will go for the price required remains to be seen. There seems to be a popular consensus that players are on holiday and that contracts finish on the 30th June, both may well be true but neither stop players signing for new clubs. Think it’s of more of ‘see if anyone comes in’ than ‘waiting to shift’, it certainly doesn’t sound like we’re touting them to the market. If no one comes in for O’Brien great no replacement needed same with Toff although it means he would potentially have to find a replacement before he leaves on a free. Town don't need to tout them to the market thats what their agents do |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 5, 2022 18:28:58 GMT 1
Think it’s of more of ‘see if anyone comes in’ than ‘waiting to shift’, it certainly doesn’t sound like we’re touting them to the market. If no one comes in for O’Brien great no replacement needed same with Toff although it means he would potentially have to find a replacement before he leaves on a free. Town don't need to tout them to the market thats what their agents do Pretty sure we can proactively make it clear they’re for sale. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 18:30:18 GMT 1
Town don't need to tout them to the market thats what their agents do Pretty sure we can proactively make it clear they’re for sale. Well yeah we can . But it's the agents job to tout their players |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 5, 2022 18:31:17 GMT 1
Pretty sure we can proactively make it clear they’re for sale. Well yeah we can . But it's the agents job to tout their players Yeah but I don’t think we’re actively trying to force the situation as was implied. Do you? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 5, 2022 18:35:39 GMT 1
Well yeah we can . But it's the agents job to tout their players Yeah but I don’t think we’re actively trying to force the situation as was implied. Do you? I wouldn't rule it out but I don't know . I think ideally we would wish that o brien stays but he wouldn't have signed a new contract without clauses so we have to be realistic . Toffolo isn't straightforward but he patently won't sign a deal so my hunch is we will be wanting to get some dough for him |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 6, 2022 12:05:07 GMT 1
Town don't need to tout them to the market thats what their agents do Pretty sure we can proactively make it clear they’re for sale. Yes we could, and shave £2mil off the asking price as a result of doing so. |
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Post by willo on Jul 6, 2022 12:59:47 GMT 1
Out - Sarr, Blackman, Pipa, Campbell, Colwille, Anjorin, Eiting, Vallejo, Sinani. Add Toffs and O'Brien makes 11. 2 in - Boyle+Edmonds Green. For me, that's worrying. Its virtually a "Team" that's left. I can't help but wonder that Carlos must concerned - Why is nothing happening ? The early recruitment last year gave Carlos all pre-season to work with the players - clearly that paid off. Nicholls - Great that he has signed a new deal Schofield - Not good enough at championship level - needs a lower league loan - but who would take him ? Turton - Most improved player - should have played at Wembley. Spencer - Playing for Northern Ireland doesn't make you ready for the championship. Ruffels - had good games and some not so good games, but didn't have enough opportunities - so im not really sure. No other options here ? Lees,Boyle,Pearson,Green - decent options here. Hogg - Would be the first player on any team sheet for me. No other defensive midfielder - In my opinion. Russell - Excellent but needs to improve and speed up. Will he do a Koroma (Young players often have a slow second season) ? High - Not convinced Holmes - Will always have good days and bad days. Thats it no more options. Thomas - As we all know he was terrific. Koroma - Got found out and needs to find other ways to beat his man. Aarons - Always injured have no real opinion of him. Rowe - Strange season and never figured. Grant - seemingly destined to stay in the B team No other options. Ward - A good season, will he stay fit ? Rhodes - should have started at Wembley, will always score goals. Any potential young players, that we might have thought are read, have been loaned out. Season tickets have sold really well. So what is going on ? We need to bring in at 9 players to match last season squad. That is the reality. worrying. Without reading the thread: Sarr - didn't play a massive amount in this most recent season. Many fans slagged him off throughout his time here. Blackman - barely played, didn't look AMAZING on the couple of occasions he did. Pipa - started well, got injured then struggled to return to his best. Couldn't oust 'not good enough for the Championship' Turton. Campbell - 0 games(?) last season. Not amazing before that. EDIT - Wikipedia says he made 20 appearances last season. 0 goals. I don't remember seeing a second of him. Colwill - he's a big miss but missed a number of games. He's the only one I'd class as a big miss. Could be replaced (to some degree) with a PL loan. Anjorin - barely played. Eiting - barely played. Vallejo - barely played. Sinani - on his day could be really good, didn't have THAT many where he was at the races for the full game. Set pieces might be missed as it was good having quality from a left foot to complement Thomas' right foot. Summary - we haven't lost too much, there's still time for that to change. Spot on with that assessment there fella. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 6, 2022 15:22:35 GMT 1
Wonder if the op has stopped crying now we’ve signed two players in a day?  |
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 7, 2022 6:19:57 GMT 1
Wonder if the op has stopped crying now we’ve signed two players in a day? What is wrong with Datm. ? Another childish response. I don’t want the club to fail. I just voiced an opinion , isn’t that the purpose of a forum ? One good signing and one signing with a lot to prove. The squad is still considerably weaker than last season. Ie Blackman was a better no.2 than Schofield. Campbell had a wealth of experience compared to Phillips (who didn’t pull up any trees on his loan). That said there is still time. Maybe the point I was trying to make is that Carlos had plenty of time to work with the new players last year. This year we are later back than most (due to the play-offs). Sorba is still on holiday. It’s not the same prep as last year and we all know how much Carlos likes his prep. UTT |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 7, 2022 6:44:04 GMT 1
Wonder if the op has stopped crying now we’ve signed two players in a day? What is wrong with Datm. ? Another childish response. I don’t want the club to fail. I just voiced an opinion , isn’t that the purpose of a forum ? One good signing and one signing with a lot to prove. The squad is still considerably weaker than last season. Ie Blackman was a better no.2 than Schofield. Campbell had a wealth of experience compared to Phillips (who didn’t pull up any trees on his loan). That said there is still time. Maybe the point I was trying to make is that Carlos had plenty of time to work with the new players last year. This year we are later back than most (due to the play-offs). Sorba is still on holiday. It’s not the same prep as last year and we all know how much Carlos likes his prep. UTT If Schofield is number 2 still god help us. Chapman and Bilokapic twice the keeper Ryan is. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 7, 2022 9:13:53 GMT 1
Wonder if the op has stopped crying now we’ve signed two players in a day? What is wrong with Datm. ? Another childish response. I don’t want the club to fail. I just voiced an opinion , isn’t that the purpose of a forum ? One good signing and one signing with a lot to prove. The squad is still considerably weaker than last season. Ie Blackman was a better no.2 than Schofield. Campbell had a wealth of experience compared to Phillips (who didn’t pull up any trees on his loan). That said there is still time. Maybe the point I was trying to make is that Carlos had plenty of time to work with the new players last year. This year we are later back than most (due to the play-offs). Sorba is still on holiday. It’s not the same prep as last year and we all know how much Carlos likes his prep. UTT So the guy throwing his toys out of the pram moans at folk moaning about him throwing his toys Think your last paragraph would have been a more sensible starting point with an appropriate thread title |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 7, 2022 9:19:02 GMT 1
What is wrong with Datm. ? Another childish response. I don’t want the club to fail. I just voiced an opinion , isn’t that the purpose of a forum ? One good signing and one signing with a lot to prove. The squad is still considerably weaker than last season. Ie Blackman was a better no.2 than Schofield. Campbell had a wealth of experience compared to Phillips (who didn’t pull up any trees on his loan). That said there is still time. Maybe the point I was trying to make is that Carlos had plenty of time to work with the new players last year. This year we are later back than most (due to the play-offs). Sorba is still on holiday. It’s not the same prep as last year and we all know how much Carlos likes his prep. UTT So the guy throwing his toys out of the pram moans at folk moaning about him throwing his toys Think your last paragraph would have been a more sensible starting point with an appropriate thread title If you read his opening post, he didn’t exactly throw the toys out, people just jumped to conclusions, it’s very unlike DATM. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 7, 2022 10:07:33 GMT 1
I actually think Duncan's Interventions prompted Town to stop naval gazing and get transfers done . He should be rewarded with another box for people to visit him In
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Post by H6dds on Jul 7, 2022 10:07:50 GMT 1
This thread is a good example where someone probably hasn’t read the forum at all and/or feel very important so they need to start their own “panic about everything and everyone, the club is trying to screw the fans over by not showing ambition” thread just after the last one had gotten to the stage were most people had agreed, or at least agreed to disagree, and everything starts over again.
This discussion is in pretty much every thread on here so why start a new one? It would be like me starting a new thread to write this.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 7, 2022 10:27:25 GMT 1
So the guy throwing his toys out of the pram moans at folk moaning about him throwing his toys Think your last paragraph would have been a more sensible starting point with an appropriate thread title If you read his opening post, he didn’t exactly throw the toys out, people just jumped to conclusions, it’s very unlike DATM. The thread title explains |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 7, 2022 10:36:27 GMT 1
Still sitting on potentially 14 million or so and that is a very good and also a very difficult position to be in.
That it seems one deal done had been going on for a while before it was completed does show we have been being pro active but the 14 million is clearly going to loom large and could be putting the brakes on any moves involving a fee.
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