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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 9, 2022 22:24:28 GMT 1
Absolutely fair play Pete
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 9, 2022 22:24:53 GMT 1
Hoyle needs to spend now or this lot will be relegated.
Schofield does not have the skills of Corberan and bollocking the team certainly worked didnt it
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 9, 2022 22:26:40 GMT 1
Absolutely astounded he hasn't stepped down after that. Are we really in a situation where everyone knows this isn't going to work but we just have to ride out embarrassing defeat after embarrassing defeat until Hoyle bites the bullet? I predict that moment will probably come on Sept 1st after the window conveniently shuts. Absolute shit show town!
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 9, 2022 22:28:33 GMT 1
We desperately need some new signings or we are fucked. No we don't, all the bed wetters think Danny Grant is the answer....  Are you for real? Wow. |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 9, 2022 22:28:49 GMT 1
I'll be brave and show my face. That hurt and my positivity and optimism have taken a hit. I need a good night's sleep No need to call it bravery Pete. You have loyally backed Dean and got rightly angry at the nasty personal abuse - I too think that’s poor from fans who should know better but we will see now the true colours of the board, staff and players. The start has been appalling, the selections baffling and the system/pattern non existent. Only one bunch can sort it……and it ain’t us on here! |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 9, 2022 22:31:43 GMT 1
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Post by shelterr on Aug 9, 2022 22:31:46 GMT 1
To be honest after the last two very poor performances I really couldn't be bothered tonight especially as I'd have to queue for a ticket (according to htafc.com expecting large crowd!).
If the team really can't be bothered can you blame supporters if they feel the same?
It's not healthy this at all and we need something to change.
I agree with a lot of comments about Danny Schofield, and needing an experienced manager to guide/learn from. The lack of investment in quality players is very concerning - haggling with Halifax over a defender for god's sake! We need some experienced championship players, and there are some out there who have been released, we seem to buy players for the future but then they disappear, we need players for now.
I do hope DH invests and that things pick up, but at the moment I'm struggling to see that happening, and League One is a distinct possibility next season.
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 9, 2022 22:32:05 GMT 1
Feel for Schofield abit he shouldn’t of been offered the job in the first place and he’s been handed a truly shit hand by them above him.
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Aug 9, 2022 22:43:41 GMT 1
We started with 9 of the first team squad and 2 kids. One of the kids was our best player over the 90 minutes. That should send massive alarm bells around the club.
Nicholls looks bereft.
Spencer should not be near the team yet, but somehow is our backup RB.
Lees is struggling.
Boyle was drifting so far right tonight I thought he'd joined UKIP.
Nakayama can play but was compensating for Boyle so much at the back you could have built a multi-storey car park on their right wing, and going forward he was expected to link up with Koroma. Less said about him the better.
Russell is a shadow of the player he was in the run in.
Camara has a bright future. Felt for him tonight.
Mahoney? Meh-oney...
Koroma - remember when he had 3 good months and we all laughed that we'd got £15m for Grant?
Rhodes - no service.
Holmes - aimless and feckless.
Can anyone explain why 3-0 down at half time means no changes but 4-0 down 5 minutes later means a triple sub?
Schofield is a nice guy, and may well be a good coach. But he's not a leader. Wasn't as a player, and isn't now. He was a knee-jerk option on a budget from a chairman who should know better. We have had this obsession with succession planning (remember Hudson?) that hasn't worked. And it won't do. It's not the old Anfield boot room lads... we need an experienced leader. If we can all see it, when will Dean? We know he's a stubborn old scrote but c'mon!
Shipping 4 at home (which actually flattered us - they could easily have had 7) in the manner we did tonight is unforgiveable, and couple that with the lack of an obvious plan ("Trust the process"??!! What process?) and the fact the crowd are already turning means it's kinder and more sensible to do it now.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 9, 2022 22:44:11 GMT 1
I was interested when they appointed Danny to see what the players thought about him.I thought that if they respected him & wanted to play for him, he might be a good appointment. Unfortunately, it looks like the players were gutted to see the likes of Carlos, Toff & LOB go & that those 3 leaving has totally destroyed the best thing we had going for us last year, the team spirit & unity.
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Post by evidentlychickentown on Aug 9, 2022 22:44:12 GMT 1
I want to ask is there anyone on this site who can shed any light on what Danny’s tactics are ? I have watched all 3 games carefully and I have no idea what he is trying to achieve. We don’t press, we don’t try and hit on the break, we don’t use width, what is it we’re trying to do ? Anyone ?
Defensively we are utterly shambolic - any cross into the box just gets stroked in with barely a challenge. Boyle was abysmal tonight - who decided he was better than Sarr ?
Lees looks lost without Pearson. Two home games and in both we have given the left backs the freedom of the park- with no attempt from Schofield to change things - no lessons learnt. This really does not bode well. I reckon we will be bottom after 8 games and then bring in a new manager and this time (unlike the Cowleys and some great loan signings) it will be too late as I have no confidence that Hoyle intends to spend a penny until he gets his money back. It’s so depressing. There was only one positive tonight - I thought Etienne Camara had a promising start and totally outshone Russell who continues to stroll around looking lost. Obviously Anjorin is a lone shining light but on his own it’s not enough. Finally why no minutes for Danny Grant or Pat Jones ? We were desperate for some pace and creativity and yet he brings on full backs and centre backs when we’re getting stuffed. Absolutely clueless. Hoyle should hang his head in shame for putting Danny in this position as he’s very clearly not ready for management. We’re doomed, doomed I tell you……..
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 9, 2022 22:46:19 GMT 1
Sounds like Camara should be keeping his place over Russell on Saturday?
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Aug 9, 2022 22:46:54 GMT 1
To be honest we could and probably should have conceded four or more in both of our opening league games. Only the oposition's poor finishing flattered us.
I'll sya it again, we look far worse than under Jan Siewert, and yes it is early doors but I can't see it getting much better this time.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 9, 2022 22:48:53 GMT 1
Just got back and bloody hell that was atrocious.
It’s a long long time since I have seen us so comprehensively outplayed and such a lack of motivation.
Schofield isn’t doing himself any favours with the team selection or the way he is trying to play.
We have six players stood around our box (as we have two holding midfielders) and then four stood on the halfway line. There is no link at all between defence and attack. It must be something Schofield wants otherwise why isn’t he telling Koroma, Holmes and Mahoney to try and get the ball?
Of those who came into the team.
Boyle - solid league 1 centre back. Has clear limitations.
Spencer - at fault for letting crosses in and not the best going forwards. Not ready.
Nakayama - average. Might look better with better players around him.
Camara - a bit too slow on the ball and too many back and sideways passes. Not ready for this level.
Mahoney - didn’t notice he was on the pitch until he took some reasonable corners late on. Didn’t beat a man, play any incisive passes or crosses. No idea what he offers.
At least Rudoni looks a reasonable player. He need to be next to Hogg instead of Russell on Saturday.
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Aug 9, 2022 22:48:58 GMT 1
Sounds like Camara should be keeping his place over Russell on Saturday? he more than held his own. showed for the ball, moved it around quickly and is more athletic. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 9, 2022 22:53:05 GMT 1
Start proper shit,Get a new man in, get on a mental run, get to the final, get promoted and then go buy the losers players..... Might be our turn
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Aug 9, 2022 22:53:11 GMT 1
To be honest after the last two very poor performances I really couldn't be bothered tonight especially as I'd have to queue for a ticket (according to htafc.com expecting large crowd!). If the team really can't be bothered can you blame supporters if they feel the same? It's not healthy this at all and we need something to change. I agree with a lot of comments about Danny Schofield, and needing an experienced manager to guide/learn from. The lack of investment in quality players is very concerning - haggling with Halifax over a defender for god's sake! We need some experienced championship players, and there are some out there who have been released, we seem to buy players for the future but then they disappear, we need players for now. I do hope DH invests and that things pick up, but at the moment I'm struggling to see that happening, and League One is a distinct possibility next season. Hoyle’s business model is deeply flawed. Selling your best players & gambling on up & coming kids developing sufficiently both in terms of performance & price tag builds in instability- you never get to a point where you can push on, you’re always running to stand still. It’s also exacerbated by relying on young inexperienced coaches who have enough on competing against more experienced rivals without the burden of having to develop inconsistent young players or gamble with the fitness of injury prone players. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that when we got promoted & now just missed promotion that we moved away from that model by bringing in comparatively cheap but experienced foreign players like Schindler & Lowe, or under Phil Hodgkinson making use of reasonably experienced free agents/low cost players. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 22:53:22 GMT 1
Nothing was joined up. Camara and Spencer look like they can play but the options open to them were really poor. PNE always had a player in space and options but we just never did and they cut us apart at will.
Russell always seemed to receive the ball facing backwards. When there was a break it was slow and tended to fizzle out between Holmes and Koroma. Eventually, but much too late, Spencer and Russell pushed up but when Spencer made a run the ball, if he got one, was poor. Camara and Russell seemed to be playing in the same position and I lost count of the times Russell lost the ball.
Rhodes was constantly offside but he had little or no support. The balls he was nodding on from Nicholls never went to one of our players. My guess is we won't see Holmes, Koroma, Rhodes or Russell starting again anytime soon.
Nakayama played left back but looked like a centre back all game. This left their No. 44, Potts, completely free most of the time. He does look he would make a good centre back though. I think him instaed of Boyle and Jackson left back would have been better.
We never had numbers in their box and they seemed to always outnumber us in ours. We were so compact in the middle of the field, movement was almost non-existant.
That was a truely horrible game to watch. No offence to PNE but I expect us to look as good as them, or certainly close, and not like they are a division above us.
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Post by stinkypete on Aug 9, 2022 22:54:04 GMT 1
Not even a single shot in 60 minutes which would be slightly forgiven if we were playing the likes of Man City, but Preston?? Surely even the most hardcore rosetinter can't defend this shower of a shit show? Oh they will. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 9, 2022 22:55:19 GMT 1
Sounds like Camara should be keeping his place over Russell on Saturday? he more than held his own. showed for the ball, moved it around quickly and is more athletic. I've seen him play a few games in the B team, I think he has a great future ahead of him - my only concern around him has been his temperament, as I have seen him wound up quite easily but that may be because he has been playing against kids, he may feel men's football is more his level. |
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Post by harris on Aug 9, 2022 22:55:50 GMT 1
Just got back and bloody hell that was atrocious. It’s a long long time since I have seen us so comprehensively outplayed and such a lack of motivation. Schofield isn’t doing himself any favours with the team selection or the way he is trying to play. We have six players stood around our box (as we have two holding midfielders) and then four stood on the halfway line. There is no link at all between defence and attack. It must be something Schofield wants otherwise why isn’t he telling Koroma, Holmes and Mahoney to try and get the ball? Of those who came into the team. Boyle - solid league 1 centre back. Has clear limitations. Spencer - at fault for letting crosses in and not the best going forwards. Not ready. Nakayama - average. Might look better with better players around him. Camara - a bit too slow on the ball and too many back and sideways passes. Not ready for this level. Mahoney - didn’t notice he was on the pitch until he took some reasonable corners late on. Didn’t beat a man, play any incisive passes or crosses. No idea what he offers. At least Rudoni looks a reasonable player. He need to be next to Hogg instead of Russell on Saturday. Was just about to do a ‘just got back post’ too, but youve pretty much summed it up. Only difference I’d say is Camara looked like a better Jon Russell than Jon Russell did tonight, one of the only shining lights. Also side note, sat by the corporate bit in the upper tier of the core stand - felt like everyone was in there with a notepad and pen - is that where all the scouts sit? Referee assessors? There was a shit tonne of them and felt a bit surreal that everybody to my right was furiously writing notes 😂 |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 9, 2022 22:58:23 GMT 1
Sounds like Camara should be keeping his place over Russell on Saturday? Russell cant play in this system.....theres nobody with energy alongside him to win it back or carry it forward. |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 9, 2022 23:04:43 GMT 1
We started with 9 of the first team squad and 2 kids. One of the kids was our best player over the 90 minutes. That should send massive alarm bells around the club. Nicholls looks bereft. Spencer should not be near the team yet, but somehow is our backup RB. Lees is struggling. Boyle was drifting so far right tonight I thought he'd joined UKIP. Nakayama can play but was compensating for Boyle so much at the back you could have built a multi-storey car park on their right wing, and going forward he was expected to link up with Koroma. Less said about him the better. Russell is a shadow of the player he was in the run in. Camara has a bright future. Felt for him tonight. Mahoney? Meh-oney... Koroma - remember when he had 3 good months and we all laughed that we'd got £15m for Grant? Rhodes - no service. Holmes - aimless and feckless. Can anyone explain why 3-0 down at half time means no changes but 4-0 down 5 minutes later means a triple sub? Schofield is a nice guy, and may well be a good coach. But he's not a leader. Wasn't as a player, and isn't now. He was a knee-jerk option on a budget from a chairman who should know better. We have had this obsession with succession planning (remember Hudson?) that hasn't worked. And it won't do. It's not the old Anfield boot room lads... we need an experienced leader. If we can all see it, when will Dean? We know he's a stubborn old scrote but c'mon! Shipping 4 at home (which actually flattered us - they could easily have had 7) in the manner we did tonight is unforgiveable, and couple that with the lack of an obvious plan ("Trust the process"??!! What process?) and the fact the crowd are already turning means it's kinder and more sensible to do it now. Amen to that, all of it |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 9, 2022 23:05:28 GMT 1
First time I've seen us in the flesh this season and man that was worrying. To say we were playing or what appeared to be 4-4-2 we were so narrow being exposed on the flanks and no width going forward. The defence has gone backwards from last season after being fairly rock solid to seive like this. Preston looked like they would score with every attack. Again too much back to goal stuff and safe option of passing it sideways and backwards. Russell needs dropping, another shocker and we look far better with Rudoni and Anjorin playing.
I hope Schofield can turn it round but he's had little prep and the squad is ropey as hell. He might be best served trying get the defence right for Saturday, that's imperative. Even Lees seemed afflicted tonight, the less the said about Boyle the better. Its a real mess at the minute.
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Aug 9, 2022 23:07:26 GMT 1
He looks like a broken man already. I think even he knows that he is out of his depth and has no answers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 23:08:21 GMT 1
Just got back and bloody hell that was atrocious. It’s a long long time since I have seen us so comprehensively outplayed and such a lack of motivation. Schofield isn’t doing himself any favours with the team selection or the way he is trying to play. We have six players stood around our box (as we have two holding midfielders) and then four stood on the halfway line. There is no link at all between defence and attack. It must be something Schofield wants otherwise why isn’t he telling Koroma, Holmes and Mahoney to try and get the ball? Of those who came into the team. Boyle - solid league 1 centre back. Has clear limitations. Spencer - at fault for letting crosses in and not the best going forwards. Not ready. Nakayama - average. Might look better with better players around him. Camara - a bit too slow on the ball and too many back and sideways passes. Not ready for this level. Mahoney - didn’t notice he was on the pitch until he took some reasonable corners late on. Didn’t beat a man, play any incisive passes or crosses. No idea what he offers. At least Rudoni looks a reasonable player. He need to be next to Hogg instead of Russell on Saturday. For me got outplayed the same against Burnley who should have had 4 in the first half. Thought Rudoni and Camara have promise,Anjorin has quality but we need to see more of it. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 9, 2022 23:09:30 GMT 1
I'm not without sympathy for Danny Schofield, and the position he is in, but we don't look a well-coached side.
And he's the head coach.
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Post by ACW on Aug 9, 2022 23:12:13 GMT 1
Camara's performance tonight was the only plus. I would like to see him starting infront of Russell. Far more mobile, better on the ball and more involved in Town's build up play.
The only other plus for Town was their number 2 getting injured on halftime. Had he stayed on, it could have got really ugly.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 9, 2022 23:16:54 GMT 1
Jordan worked his arse off and 2 great finishes. We gave him some support at 60 minutes, up to then he was very much on his own.
Brodie Spencer did fine, looks physically able to cope now, so one for the near future there.
We started with 9 men and it cost us in the gap between the front and the middle and back.
The backwards look everytime we get it, costs us everytime. Preston are same division and can leave men wide and up the pitch whereas we dont or cant and we are constantly chasing and miles from the ball. The opposition walk off their marker and collect balls into feet unhindered and the wide players have time to control the ball and move forward everytime.
We didnt support the ball till too late in the game and the impression for 90% of it was that they had at least 2 more players than us.
Boyle might need more time, I think Im being optimistic.
Russell looked slower than against Burnley.
First things first on Saturday, we have to commit fully to match or better the stoke workrate, the rest will never follow until we do and we cant start with 9 again.
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Post by harris on Aug 9, 2022 23:17:35 GMT 1
He looks like a broken man already. I think even he knows that he is out of his depth and has no answers. Don’t wanna be that guy, but why does the interviewer laugh during every question? |
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