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Post by durhamterrier on Aug 10, 2022 18:16:31 GMT 1
Few home truths to the billy big bollocks and dropping them wouldn’t go amiss
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Post by digs on Aug 10, 2022 18:22:37 GMT 1
just watched Jordans interview after the game. He looks absolutely shellshocked. Gutted. Heartbroken. I suspect there was a lot said in that dressing room after the game. Rhodes will be embarrassed,tbf he's always done his best,can't be easy playing in a team that can't even pass wind,never mind supply a natural goal scorer |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 18:34:03 GMT 1
Few home truths to the billy big bollocks and dropping them wouldn’t go amiss Who the hell are the 'Billy big bollocks', which players do you mean, name names. |
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Post by durhamterrier on Aug 10, 2022 19:16:38 GMT 1
Few home truths to the billy big bollocks and dropping them wouldn’t go amiss Who the hell are the 'Billy big bollocks', which players do you mean, name names. Koroma for a start , gesturing to fans after 12 months of wank . Russell has come back this season thinking he’s the big I am and Sorba - much as he smashed it last season - hasn’t turned up yet this . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 19:34:19 GMT 1
Who the hell are the 'Billy big bollocks', which players do you mean, name names. Koroma for a start , gesturing to fans after 12 months of wank . Russell has come back this season thinking he’s the big I am and Sorba - much as he smashed it last season - hasn’t turned up yet this . What gestures did Koroma make? Russell is struggling and Sorba, like the rest of the team, is not playing to his last season best. Why does this make any of them 'Billy big bollocks'? |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 10, 2022 20:20:30 GMT 1
Koroma for a start , gesturing to fans after 12 months of wank . Russell has come back this season thinking he’s the big I am and Sorba - much as he smashed it last season - hasn’t turned up yet this . What gestures did Koroma make? Russell is struggling and Sorba, like the rest of the team, is not playing to his last season best. Why does this make any of them 'Billy big bollocks'? This exactly. Effort isn't the problem; mistakes, shape, and confidence are. Koroma has been sussed out and it's time for the coaches to take him to one side and work on a new dimension to his game. I keep seeing criticism of Thomas for not tracking back - how do we know he's not under instructions to stay further forward to support the striker? Russell had an outstanding first Championship half-season in a three with an experienced head and - crucially - a mobile ball-carrier. Now he's in a static two and can be closed down far more easily. Our decision-making - on and off the pitch - hasn't been good enough. None of that is down to effort or billy big bollocks attitudes. Defensively, we're all over the shop - look at the gaps between defenders when we're playing with a back four. It's no coincidence we looked more solid with three centre-backs; the space between them is less. To combat that, we got too narrow in the first half last night; goals two and three both came from that right hand side, where Spencer - a kid on debut - was exposed by Preston's width. When we switched to a three, Spencer could stay wider (helped by no.2 going off). I get bored of the need to find blame and put blame on attitudes and effort. It's lazy punditry at best, and doesn't address actual issues. Equally, I despise modern football's need to find everything a crisis and find a scapegoat. Sometimes football teams aren't very good. Nothing fundamentally wrong, just a few mistakes where margins for error are small. We've made mistakes and we're getting punished for them. No replacement for O'Brien - the best midfielder in the division - and no experienced head coach and here we are. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 20:41:39 GMT 1
What gestures did Koroma make? Russell is struggling and Sorba, like the rest of the team, is not playing to his last season best. Why does this make any of them 'Billy big bollocks'? This exactly. Effort isn't the problem; mistakes, shape, and confidence are. Koroma has been sussed out and it's time for the coaches to take him to one side and work on a new dimension to his game. I keep seeing criticism of Thomas for not tracking back - how do we know he's not under instructions to stay further forward to support the striker? Russell had an outstanding first Championship half-season in a three with an experienced head and - crucially - a mobile ball-carrier. Now he's in a static two and can be closed down far more easily. Our decision-making - on and off the pitch - hasn't been good enough. None of that is down to effort or billy big bollocks attitudes. Defensively, we're all over the shop - look at the gaps between defenders when we're playing with a back four. It's no coincidence we looked more solid with three centre-backs; the space between them is less. To combat that, we got too narrow in the first half last night; goals two and three both came from that right hand side, where Spencer - a kid on debut - was exposed by Preston's width. When we switched to a three, Spencer could stay wider (helped by no.2 going off). I get bored of the need to find blame and put blame on attitudes and effort. It's lazy punditry at best, and doesn't address actual issues. Equally, I despise modern football's need to find everything a crisis and find a scapegoat. Sometimes football teams aren't very good. Nothing fundamentally wrong, just a few mistakes where margins for error are small. We've made mistakes and we're getting punished for them. No replacement for O'Brien - the best midfielder in the division - and no experienced head coach and here we are. Agree with that. The other problem I think we had last night was no leaders on the pitch. Lees is experienced but quiet and it was Boyle's first start. Last season we had Hogg & Pearson organising at the back, plus, as you say, three centre backs. It was very much a 'let's have a look at these guys and get some minutes in legs' team. It did put the players under a lot of pressure though so you have to wonder if it was a wise team selection. |
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Post by tonytiler on Aug 10, 2022 20:52:21 GMT 1
Is Naby Sarr any worse than the shite we have on show at the moment?
Yes he made a few fuck ups but i dont rate what we have in his place,and he still hasnt found a new club.He must be laughing his nuts off with what we have churned out at the moment🤣
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 10, 2022 21:12:40 GMT 1
Is Naby Sarr any worse than the shite we have on show at the moment? Yes he made a few fuck ups but i dont rate what we have in his place,and he still hasnt found a new club.He must be laughing his nuts off with what we have churned out at the moment🤣 He was a decent CB, we got rid because of his wages. Reckon Boyle will be on less than half what Sarr was earning. |
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Post by yorkie69 on Aug 10, 2022 21:23:24 GMT 1
Is Naby Sarr any worse than the shite we have on show at the moment? Yes he made a few fuck ups but i dont rate what we have in his place,and he still hasnt found a new club.He must be laughing his nuts off with what we have churned out at the moment🤣 Sarr has agreed to sign for Reading and they are just waiting for the EFL to agree to the move due to their embargo.This will happen this week. |
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Post by H7 on Aug 10, 2022 21:39:46 GMT 1
Is Naby Sarr any worse than the shite we have on show at the moment? Yes he made a few fuck ups but i dont rate what we have in his place,and he still hasnt found a new club.He must be laughing his nuts off with what we have churned out at the moment🤣 Saved a couple grand a week by replacing him with Boyle who isn't fit to lace Sarr's boots. Sara never let us down once last season when called upon and actually scored a couple of crucial goals. Imagine Boyle starting the Championship playoff final  Cost cutting to the absolute extreme. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 21:49:27 GMT 1
Is Naby Sarr any worse than the shite we have on show at the moment? Yes he made a few fuck ups but i dont rate what we have in his place,and he still hasnt found a new club.He must be laughing his nuts off with what we have churned out at the moment🤣 Saved a couple grand a week by replacing him with Boyle who isn't fit to lace Sarr's boots. Sara never let us down once last season when called upon and actually scored a couple of crucial goals. Imagine Boyle starting the Championship playoff final Cost cutting to the absolute extreme. How much have you seen of Boyle as a player? |
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Post by jakeg on Aug 10, 2022 22:05:23 GMT 1
Too many threads all on the same general worry about the close season recruitment, the managerial position and the last three games so didn't know where best to post!
Obviously worried by the start, the loss of coberan and the players we've lost versus the players coming in....so far....still.window open although understand completely.the pessimism that we'll see much changing.
Put.simply I think I don't yet form.a clear view as to where we are and where we are going. Last season did have elements that suggest it would have been impossible to re-create. If we'd lost to reading in 2017 are we confident that we'd simply have breezed promotion the following season? I'm not.
I just feel.we have to be careful....as fans....not to turn heroes to villains in three games...as poor as those games have been. I understand that players sometimes are their own worse enemies in terms of the way they portray themselves but Russell, Thomas, Turton, Nicholls played incredible parts in the fabulous second half of last season. Please let's not throw them on the scrapheap after 3 games.
Challenge is new manager who will obviously not be a carbon copy of corberan. He does need time to find the way he wants to play....as corberan had time in his first season.
The recruitment is a worry to be honest. Worried about lack of competition at right and left back. Worried about central midfield (Russell never as effective in a two, fabulous in a three....which we don't really have). Worried about the lack of a.couple of younger hungry loan players to add difference to the older pros (central defence and attack). Rudoni and anjorin good additions but need to work them into the formation.
Seen a lot of seasons....seen those where we start well, seen those where we start appallingly. I just think, for now, that we need to stick together and not implode.
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Post by H7 on Aug 10, 2022 22:42:45 GMT 1
Saved a couple grand a week by replacing him with Boyle who isn't fit to lace Sarr's boots. Sara never let us down once last season when called upon and actually scored a couple of crucial goals. Imagine Boyle starting the Championship playoff final Cost cutting to the absolute extreme. How much have you seen of Boyle as a player? Mate the guy is 26 and has only played one season in his career above league two level. Not a dig against him personally but he’s absolutely no where near Naby Sarr’s level. He’s been brought in to sit on the bench for cheaper than Sarr would have done. Assuming you’ve seen him play loads and think he is a good additional to a team that reached the championship playoff final last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 22:53:32 GMT 1
How much have you seen of Boyle as a player? Mate the guy is 26 and has only played one season in his career above league two level. Not a dig against him personally but he’s absolutely no where near Naby Sarr’s level. He’s been brought in to sit on the bench for cheaper than Sarr would have done. Assuming you’ve seen him play loads and think he is a good additional to a team that reached the championship playoff final last year. No, I hadn't heard of him before he signed, it was an honest question. The back line is a problem, especially last night with three players making their first start. Lees moved to cover Spencer, Boyle moved to cover Lees and Nakayama moved to cover Boyle, they looked all over the place. We also had Mahoney and Camara playing in front of them, also starters, so cohesion was always going to be poor. For me Spencer will be a good player, but last night was tough for him. Lees is experienced and solid but he looked all over the place and is no leader. Nakayama is a Japan international but looked lost as to where he should be playing and who to link with in front of him. All I would say is it was a difficult game to judge Boyle on. You may be right but he may look a lot better once we have a properly settled back line. Nakayama for me is a centre back so unless we play 5 across the back Boyle may not get much game time anyway. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 11, 2022 1:02:36 GMT 1
Just seen the high ?? lights on ITV 4 + 1..... dearie me the defending, the defending the defending, the defending  ? The only consolation of sorts is plenty other Championship teams fell by the wayside and plenty to teams in Lower divisions... Would’ve been thrown away to The Wolves (literally) had we somehow progressed v Preston... Some good draws for the smaller clubs - Stockport v Leicester and hope The Mariners of Grimsby somehow scupper and sink The good ship called Notts Forest ! |
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Cost cutting to the absolute extreme.
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