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Post by Moooooy on Mar 16, 2023 1:49:52 GMT 1
Despite having a manager who couldn’t care a shit I thought the players gave 100%. No Hungbo who has been the only shining light from the transfer window. Koromo on the right where we all know he is better on the left where he can cut inside and score. No Simpson whowhen he came on was a hand full. Administration is a possibility but can we please no longer waste any money paying Warnock and get rid tomorrow. I don’t agree with all his decisions or his team selections but I think he does care. He’s coming across relaxed because he’s trying to take as much pressure off the players as he can. Their confidence is rock bottom and they’re not very good so he has to try and lift them somehow. He was brought in too late for me, if he’d had January and been able to bring in some of his own players we would have had a much better chance of staying up. 3 managers (4 if you include Chicho) haven’t been able to get a tune out of these players, I’m not sure what difference another manager would make. |
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Post by bullterrier on Mar 16, 2023 7:32:21 GMT 1
Let’s be honest he’s shite should be nowhere near our starting 11 ,il give the lad credit he tries but unfortunately it’s not enough in the position he’s in we need quality. The ones saying he’s our best player tonight WOW
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 16, 2023 7:45:21 GMT 1
Embarrassing 1st half..
Showed some spirit 2nd half..
We are woefully short on quality..
Thought Norwich were shite tbh..
We were there for the taking..
Can’t see them going up..
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Post by alexdire on Mar 16, 2023 7:46:18 GMT 1
Let’s be honest he’s shite should be nowhere near our starting 11 ,il give the lad credit he tries but unfortunately it’s not enough in the position he’s in we need quality. The ones saying he’s our best player tonight WOW Both of those statements are true. It just shows how bad the other players are. Who also shouldn't be anywhere near our first 11. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 16, 2023 8:54:48 GMT 1
Was probably again one of our better performers. Your last sentence is embarrassing. Why? It looked to me like a typical Rudoni performance, lots of hustle and bustle but zero quality. Had a few good opportunities to test their keeper but couldn’t get one on target, just like the rest of the season. He has 16 career goals. So your sentence is embarrassing. Some on here won't know a decent player as long as I have a hole in my arse. He is 21 ffs. The expectation on him from some in moronic. The way this season has gone, do people really expect goals and assists when we barely go forward? Rudoni has everything. He will go on and have a great career. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 16, 2023 8:57:48 GMT 1
Let’s be honest he’s shite should be nowhere near our starting 11 ,il give the lad credit he tries but unfortunately it’s not enough in the position he’s in we need quality. The ones saying he’s our best player tonight WOW Let's be honest, you talk bollocks. |
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Post by wildhogg on Mar 16, 2023 9:31:07 GMT 1
I thought Rudoni started the season fairly brightly, but sadly it's been downhill ever since. He now looks absolutely devoid of confidence, which is very understandable in his circumstances. In a decent team I think he'd grow and probably be a real asset.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 16, 2023 9:38:17 GMT 1
Rudhoni clearly has potential. At the moment he lacks strength and really needs to spend the summer in the gym.
He shouldn’t take set pieces.
He snatches at every chance which is probably due to lack of confidence. Hardly surprising playing in this shit team.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 16, 2023 9:45:36 GMT 1
Other than the Birmingham game what exactly has Warnock added. Going to Burnley with no intention of competing to me was a disgrace. I didn’t expect us to win but throwing the towel in before the game is completely unacceptable If we fail to survive on GD I will agree. If we survive this season it will be a masterstroke |
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 16, 2023 9:45:37 GMT 1
He is 21 ffs. The expectation on him from some in moronic. The way this season has gone, do people really expect goals and assists when we barely go forward? Rudoni has everything. He will go on and have a great career. I certainly don't expect goals from him because he clearly couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo - and that's been a season long issue. What he may have done with another team, at a lower level, with a different system of play and different players and against slower less capable players is neither here nor there. Assists? He's often lost the ball before he's released it. Absolutely, he's got age on his side, what do you define as a great career? International football? Championship? Premier league? League 1? Can you clarify and be more specific? |
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 16, 2023 9:55:00 GMT 1
Rudoni would be far better in a side with energy around him. We're static. He tries to do something, and nobody has made a move. At one point last night, he carried the ball into space and the movement was entirely behind him, meaning he passed backwards to groans. I want to see him in a side with runners and a bit of life to it. Maybe then we'll see far more from him (and others).
One thing about the lad that I will never fault: he's a trier who doesn't let his head drop. Just because it doesn't come off doesn't mean he stops.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 16, 2023 10:02:12 GMT 1
The first half was an embarrassment, our midfield were literally running away from the ball and allowing Norwich to carry it upfield with impunity. Norwich are a decent side but we looked like a Sunday league team coming up against prime Barcelona, it was shameful to watch.
Second half was a little better but lets face it, Norwich took their foot off the gas abit too much. We had abit of luck with the goal but you earn your luck by being positive, which I thought we were. I don't know why Warnock left it so late to bring Diarra on? Thought he was excellent when he came on, looking to drive at Norwich at every opportunity and they couldn't handle him.
It's a point I suppose but it's another missed opportunity. The game was there to be won second half, if we had a half decent striker we could have had an extra 5 points in these last 3 games.
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Post by detox on Mar 16, 2023 10:05:55 GMT 1
Definitely. The ref was weak as a kitten though Yep terrible referee. I'd like to see the reason he gave a free kick against Simpson, looked like was being pulled backwards to me. And the game was stopped for 3 mins within the 5 mins added on and didn't play any of it. yes I counted that break at 3 mins 15 secs, play restarted at 4 minutes so should have ended after 7 mins and 15 secs of stoppage time, but he blew his whistle at 6 mins 10 secs. Also was it Diarra who got pulled back twice on the edge of their box and despite trying to keep on his feet the ref gave a free kick against him ? |
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Post by hthp on Mar 16, 2023 10:11:33 GMT 1
Norwich were absolutely dreadful, but we made them look like Barcelona in the first half. Once we ruffled their feathers in the second half, they looked poor. But that's Wagnerball for you, dreadful.
All these people that were predicting a heavy loss for us. Ha ha! When did Wagner ever do heavy defeats anyway?
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Post by tepidterrier on Mar 16, 2023 10:11:41 GMT 1
Rudoni would be far better in a side with energy around him. We're static. He tries to do something, and nobody has made a move. At one point last night, he carried the ball into space and the movement was entirely behind him, meaning he passed backwards to groans. I want to see him in a side with runners and a bit of life to it. Maybe then we'll see far more from him (and others). One thing about the lad that I will never fault: he's a trier who doesn't let his head drop. Just because it doesn't come off doesn't mean he stops. that's it. It's really not fallen into place for him this season and he's clearly had his confidence knocked, but he's been selected consistently and is always trying to make things happen and be positive. He'll get a goal before the end of the season, and he'll have more than enough for League 1 football |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Mar 16, 2023 10:15:56 GMT 1
Never seen a player telling the ref to hurry up like the Norwich keeper last night. Absolutely atrocious reffing.
Having said that I was sure he was going to give a pen for Lees tackle. I would have given it from where I was
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 16, 2023 10:39:24 GMT 1
Embarrassing 1st half.. Showed some spirit 2nd half.. We are woefully short on quality.. Thought Norwich were shite tbh.. We were there for the taking.. Can’t see them going up.. 🍻 Agree on all that. REALLY poor in 1st half..no quality whatsoever, anywhere in the team. Not a lot of fight either. Bad sign for Norwich because any side worthy of promotion would have gone in at half time 3 up at least. Very different in 2nd half though. Still not a lot of quality but what we did see was a lot of fight and spirit.. so much so I thought we were the better side 2nd half and looked most likely to win it. Draw was probably a fair result in the end but a result that did neither club a lot of good. If we can take the spirit and attitude in to the next game then we might get a result at millwall. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 16, 2023 10:46:33 GMT 1
Other than the Birmingham game what exactly has Warnock added. Going to Burnley with no intention of competing to me was a disgrace. I didn’t expect us to win but throwing the towel in before the game is completely unacceptable If we fail to survive on GD I will agree. If we survive this season it will be a masterstroke If it’s GD that sends us down, and it’s Blackpool that survive on the back of that. Well done Hawkeye… You could argue that would be 2 seasons in a row where something to do with technology has shafted us. |
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Post by Tez on Mar 16, 2023 10:50:39 GMT 1
If we fail to survive on GD I will agree. If we survive this season it will be a masterstroke If it’s GD that sends us down, and it’s Blackpool that survive on the back of that. Well done Hawkeye… You could argue that would be 2 seasons in a row where something to do with technology has shafted us. I’d forgot about that blackpool game. Jesus Christ that was so bad like a foot or more over line 🤦🏼♂️ |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 16, 2023 10:51:19 GMT 1
He is 21 ffs. The expectation on him from some in moronic. The way this season has gone, do people really expect goals and assists when we barely go forward? Rudoni has everything. He will go on and have a great career. I certainly don't expect goals from him because he clearly couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo - and that's been a season long issue. What he may have done with another team, at a lower level, with a different system of play and different players and against slower less capable players is neither here nor there. Assists? He's often lost the ball before he's released it. Absolutely, he's got age on his side, what do you define as a great career? International football? Championship? Premier league? League 1? Can you clarify and be more specific? Personally, he will have a good championship career. |
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Post by mosher on Mar 16, 2023 10:58:00 GMT 1
Were you not watching us last time Warnock was in charge?? Yes I was. It was nowhere near as directionless as it is now. This. Even though his reputation has always been long ball merchant, under Warnock the last time I loved the forward attacking play once our defenders had "hoofed it". There was always (seemingly) a purpose with the "hoof", this time round (so far) it seems to be completely aimless ball twatting. Funny though how when Manure, the Bindippers or Citeh launch it, it's a long pass, but when a Warnock team does it it's hoofball. His first spell is black and white compared to what he's served us up this time around ... so far, I'm hoping it gets better with more time with them, but time is FAST running out. As someone either on this thread or another said: It's the hope that kills you. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 16, 2023 10:58:14 GMT 1
Yet another game with some really odd decisions from the management.
Late subs, again! So bloody frustrating. I'd have made changes at half time but then when we scored surely you throw the attackers on and give a clear message of 'let's go for this now' but instead we waited another, what, 15-20 minutes I think? Pathetic.
Koroma on the right? We all know he's a one trick pony. Cut in from the left and shoot. He had a great chance first half and fecked it up because he was on the wrong side and looked to get caught in two minds. Why are we playing him there?
Bloody Waghorn. I know he contributed with the goal (even though he missed and got a slice of luck) but what does the guy offer? Surely Rhodes is a better shout, or better still, Simpson. At least he's going to be our player next year so lets get him some games in instead of sticking with a loanee has-been. He looked a handful when he came on and was FAR more effective.
Kasumu - firstly sat on the bench when I think we need his pace and energy on the pitch, but then he's stuck on the right again. What's that about?
No Hungbo? Because Jesus Christ we fans don't want to see anybody that can actually excite do we? We don't deserve a bit of flare on the pitch, not to mention his ability to smash in a free-kick that we won and wasted with Waghorns floater.
Rudoni on set pieces all night. Let Jackson have bloody go once in a while, at least try and mix it up.
Really poor, especially when we've pretty much got f'k all to lose!
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Post by Drew Peacock on Mar 16, 2023 10:59:20 GMT 1
Thought Rudoni was fairly decent last night to be honest, the kids a number ten being asked to play out out position every week.
Sure he's not the finished article, but he's nowhere near as bad as some are making out.
As for set pieces you can compare them to Sorbas all you like, but Sorba has one assist since October, which wasn't from a set piece either, it was a miss-hit pass.
Another thing I do like about Rudoni is he's already showing leadership qualities. He never shirks responsibility and is one of the few you can say has given 100%.
I watched him pre kick off yesterday, he walked around every other player in our starting 11 to give them a personal gee up just before kick off, which is something Hogg should be doing, rather than a 21 year old lad playing his first season at this level.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 16, 2023 11:09:30 GMT 1
Our relegation odds went from 1/9 to 1/16 on the back of that result.
I thought it was terrible. You can’t play for 10 minutes and expect to win games.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 16, 2023 11:11:54 GMT 1
Yet another game with some really odd decisions from the management. Late subs, again! So bloody frustrating. I'd have made changes at half time but then when we scored surely you throw the attackers on and give a clear message of 'let's go for this now' but instead we waited another, what, 15-20 minutes I think? Pathetic. Koroma on the right? We all know he's a one trick pony. Cut in from the left and shoot. He had a great chance first half and fecked it up because he was on the wrong side and looked to get caught in two minds. Why are we playing him there? Bloody Waghorn. I know he contributed with the goal (even though he missed and got a slice of luck) but what does the guy offer? Surely Rhodes is a better shout, or better still, Simpson. At least he's going to be our player next year so lets get him some games in instead of sticking with a loanee has-been. He looked a handful when he came on and was FAR more effective. Kasumu - firstly sat on the bench when I think we need his pace and energy on the pitch, but then he's stuck on the right again. What's that about? No Hungbo? Because Jesus Christ we fans don't want to see anybody that can actually excite do we? We don't deserve a bit of flare on the pitch, not to mention his ability to smash in a free-kick that we won and wasted with Waghorns floater. Rudoni on set pieces all night. Let Jackson have bloody go once in a while, at least try and mix it up. Really poor, especially when we've pretty much got f'k all to lose! Agree with every bit of that. We actually had someone on the pitch in Koroma that could have taken that free kick. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 16, 2023 11:12:08 GMT 1
Thought Rudoni was fairly decent last night to be honest, the kids a number ten being asked to play out out position every week. Sure he's not the finished article, but he's nowhere near as bad as some are making out. As for set pieces you can compare them to Sorbas all you like, but Sorba has one assist since October, which wasn't from a set piece either, it was a miss-hit pass. Another thing I do like about Rudoni is he's already showing leadership qualities. He never shirks responsibility and is one of the few you can say has given 100%. I watched him pre kick off yesterday, he walked around every other player in our starting 11 to give them a personal gee up just before kick off, which is something Hogg should be doing, rather than a 21 year old lad playing his first season at this level. I like Rudoni's enthusiasm and work ethic and think he has potential to be a decent player at this level. I think we've screwed him over a bit this season by buying him to be a regular starter and then playing him at left wing, right wing, attacking mid, centre mid etc, and often different positions within the same game too. Ideally this should have been a year of development for him as a back-up option trying to burst his way onto the scene. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 16, 2023 11:13:13 GMT 1
Our relegation odds went from 1/9 to 1/16 on the back of that result. I thought it was terrible. You can’t play for 10 minutes and expect to win games. Yeah, it baffles me that some people thought we played well in the second half. Up until they handed us a goal, it was turgid shite. After the goal, it was slightly better but there was still virtually no urgency or desire to win the game. Last 10 mins was decent enough, granted. Overall, though, in yet another "must win" game we were passive, slow and disinterested all through the team. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 16, 2023 11:18:47 GMT 1
Our relegation odds went from 1/9 to 1/16 on the back of that result. I thought it was terrible. You can’t play for 10 minutes and expect to win games. Yeah, it baffles me that some people thought we played well in the second half. Up until they handed us a goal, it was turgid shite. After the goal, it was slightly better but there was still virtually no urgency or desire to win the game. Last 10 mins was decent enough, granted. Overall, though, in yet another "must win" game we were passive, slow and disinterested all through the team. Second half was much improved from the first, that's for sure, and I think that's what people are getting at rather than saying we were any good. How many times in that first half did the Norwich centre halves travel about 40-50 yards with the ball completely unopposed? Bloody Grant Hanley practically going from box to box - f'ck me! |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 16, 2023 11:19:06 GMT 1
I think Warnock’s lost the plot.
It actually reminds me of when he joined us the first time. When he arrived he got rid of all talent and pace and made bizzare team selections and canned our best players, i actually hated him at the time.
The following season i quickly changed my mind and enjoyed that season as much as any. Think he’s got the wrong memo this time, we needed wins immediately.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 16, 2023 11:19:18 GMT 1
If Rhodes was on the pitch and the Helik chance falls to him, we win 2-1.
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