Jimuano
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Post by Jimuano on Aug 9, 2023 8:54:27 GMT 1
As expected for me Some good - Yuta, Jackson, Harratt, Some bad - High, Headley, REG Some ok - Austerfield, Spencer The above said - we played a boro second string for most of the game and some lads desperately need to move on to play first team football.....high - not good enough imho, spencer on loan, austerfield on loan etc. We are also crying out for a central midfield player and striker..........not to supplement the squad but to start. 2nd half showed how much we miss hogg and he wont get thru more than 30 games a season these days. The back ups arent up to it. Heres hoping we get 2 or 3 and quickly. I thought Spencer stood at as very poor. Misjudged quite a few diagonal balls and not the best distribution. At fault for both their equaliser and 3rd goal. Definitely a player in there though. Headley/the team were on top and generally doing alright until the red. With 11 we looked a real threat, and it was a shame as low risk games like these can breathe confidence into fringe players.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 9, 2023 8:57:13 GMT 1
Shame we cannot take on clubs like Liskeard and Bodmin every week as we can beat them
My Bodmin mate sent me a message on Saturday night saying WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2023 9:02:20 GMT 1
REG last year had a very specific role of man marking. He followed the best player round the park and that was it. That doesnt need much positional awareness. When he is in a normal position that lack of awareness become very obvious. And against Boro, I know we somehow won, he lost his man, his man scored.
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Post by rocky on Aug 9, 2023 9:09:14 GMT 1
Listening to Warnock after the Plymouth game, this result and team selection shouldn’t have surprised anyone. Big game on Sat, it’ll be interesting to see if any of the team tonight have done enough to get promoted into the squad. Annoying for the supporters who went, but this has been a competition that we’ve never gone that far in, if memory serves. Yeah, Warnock seems to mention how light we are in every interview. I wonder if the situation with the lack of players coming in is getting to him?
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 9, 2023 9:09:33 GMT 1
How long are we going to keep describing REG as a "great prospect"?
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Post by royrace on Aug 9, 2023 9:12:09 GMT 1
Reading all these threads it seems that only Yuta is going to improve the first eleven. Maxwell doesn’t seem to have played well, why did we sell Bilo again ? Hudlin scored again - he seems to do that a lot. Midfield. Come on town it’s clear to all of us that we need some quality in there. The anxiousness of the fans - at no new signings- will surely start to rub off onto the players. So hoped we would start the season off better than this but it’s just the same as last season. We simply lack quality. Indeed, couldn't face another 90 mins of backs to the wall damage limitation football last night, had enough of it last season, not much fun when you cant compete week in week out. Saturday will be more of the same although to be expected I suppose v Leicester. More quality needed ASAP, hopefully forthcoming.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2023 9:12:11 GMT 1
How long are we going to keep describing REG as a "great prospect"? It'll be the headline on the front of the programme for his testimonial game.
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 9, 2023 9:14:32 GMT 1
Unless they've changed the rules again, he'll only be banned for one game & that will be his next League Cup game. A three game ban is usually for violent conduct. So, if a Town player got sent off for violent conduct in the League Cup, they wouldn't be able to play again in the competition for us for 4 years! 😉 If it were right 😂 Red cards apply across all first team competition…it’s the totting up of yellows that is competition specific (yellow card in 1st and 2nd round of FA Cup you miss the third round..etc)
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 9, 2023 9:17:10 GMT 1
Certainly feel we need to play a few Premier league clubs in the pre season friendlies as that might have highlighted more how poor this present defence is before the season started
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2023 9:17:54 GMT 1
So, if a Town player got sent off for violent conduct in the League Cup, they wouldn't be able to play again in the competition for us for 4 years! 😉 If it were right 😂 Red cards apply across all first team competition…it’s the totting up of yellows that is competition specific (yellow card in 1st and 2nd round of FA Cup you miss the third round..etc) So, he won't be on the bench on Saturday.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2023 9:21:37 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft.
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 9, 2023 9:29:06 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. It is one thing that I thought would change when Warnock came in, we have been too nice for too long. Warnock constantly saying how he wants teams to dread coming here but apart from a bit of graft we are a pushover.
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 9, 2023 9:34:46 GMT 1
Warnock talking about Hudlin after the game, "I think he'll be OK once he's grown a bit!"
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Post by specialun on Aug 9, 2023 9:35:08 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. Hogg does dish it out to refs - otherwise agree We’re far too nice, fans alike - no surprise we never get 50/50s got us
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 9, 2023 9:38:13 GMT 1
Just seen the red card, not sure how anyone can say it wasn't justified? Not sure what the hospital radio guy was on about.
Spencer has a lot of things going for him but I'm really not sure FB is his position, seems to me to be far more suited to a CDM role. He seems to have a very good engine & he can certainly tackle & pass, however, whenever I see him play he looks susceptible to long diagonal balls & the ball passed inside the FB. Definitely a player there but a loan would suit him now.
Yuta has to play for REG, too, on Saturday.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 9, 2023 9:39:18 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. Hogg ain't a leader.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 9:43:39 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. He got booked at Half time on Saturday for exactly that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 9:44:09 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. Hogg ain't a leader. You notice when he's not on the pitch though.
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Post by irverino on Aug 9, 2023 9:47:23 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. Didn't Hoggy get booked at Home Park on the stroke of half time for dissent by the ref for not allowing the corner kick to be taken?........Ref Linnington has done many times over the years.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 9, 2023 9:48:34 GMT 1
You notice when he's not on the pitch though. Agreed. And to be honest, it's shameful that we've gone through 10 years, two Premier League seasons and 100s of millions and we still haven't replaced him with better.
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Post by crux on Aug 9, 2023 10:03:04 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. Hogg ain't a leader. He's the closest thing we've got to one. There's nothing from anyone else, no communication on the pitch at all. Even the experienced ones are too bloody quiet.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 9, 2023 10:05:50 GMT 1
He's the closest thing we've got to one. There's nothing from anyone else, no communication on the pitch at all. Even the experienced ones are too bloody quiet. Someone who stands and bollocks younger players for his own mistakes isn't a leader, in my opinion.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 9, 2023 10:06:15 GMT 1
I thought there were plenty of positives to take last night. Players staked a claim to a shirt and looked hungry. Nakayama's a class act. Obviously his fitness and match sharpness are still lacking, but he was far and away the best player on the pitch last night. Give him a couple of weeks and he'll be back in the starting 11. Ayina alongside him looked positive too, very calm in possession and looks to have real potential. The loan at Dundee United has clearly knocked a few edges off him and given more first team football (and a bit of work in the gym) there's a future there.
The first half, even with 10, we were the better side. We created good chances, worked the keeper, and forced Boro into mistakes. When we could press high, we did. When Hogg went off we lost that anchor so lost our way a bit in the second half, but those kids worked their socks off and had some pride. Heads could have dropped and didn't.
It goes without saying I'm not happy about the result. Headley's challenge was silly. I do think the ref gave enough benefit of the doubt decisions the other way to exercise a bit of discretion with that, I'll be honest, but if he felt their lad was getting to his touch then he had no real choice (which considering it was straight to Maxwell raises a doubt). I'm more disappointed with his decisions to not give a penalty when their lad leaned into a cross with his arm and to not get his cards out more for various fouls on Diarra; if you can avoid booking players for those challenges several times, you can find enough doubt in a DOGSO in the first 12 minutes for consistency's sake. But when you then have to play 90 minutes with a youthful 10, defeat is always on the cards and the manner of the defeat matters. In this case, the kids did enough to suggest a few could offer something.
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Post by irverino on Aug 9, 2023 10:07:25 GMT 1
For those that went. Did any of ours kick up a fuss at the ref for the tackle on Jackson only being a yellow or the lads next foul where he only got another warning or the treatment dished out to Diarra ? Every other team seems to, except us. Hogg will bollock anyone in the same coloured shirt but never gets in the refs ear, the other "leaders" we have are the same. Either too nice or too soft. He got booked at Half time on Saturday for exactly that. Says Helik on Town match report but like you pretty sure it was Hogg who was in the refs face when the card was shown......no mention at all on other media outlets, probably daydreaming?
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Post by crux on Aug 9, 2023 10:13:24 GMT 1
I think Jones is bloody lucky not to be in the shite group. He was awful, even his cross was a hopeful lob into the box with his 'wrong' foot. I was shocked how bad he was when he came on. I was expecting him to be a bit hesitant at times due to his injury, but he looked lost at times and couldn't do the basics. I was hoping he'd be decent addition to the squad assuming he can stay fit, but not on tonight's performance. Spencer and Headley were very susceptible to the crossfield ball, with neither seeming to know who/what was behind them. I think I'd move Jackson up to the 'Good' group as well. Wasn’t at the game tonight but just seen the highlights. That was a brilliant cross with his weaker foot, not sure how you can be critical of that?? I'll take that comment back having now watched the highlights. Live it did look like he'd just swung a leg at it, but by then I'd probably just got frustrated at how badly it was going for him and was expecting that outcome.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 9, 2023 10:19:27 GMT 1
Those putting Headley into the poor bracket I think is harsh. Even if it was a professional foul, so what. He made a mistake in that moment however before that he looked very bright bombing down that wing. He is easily one of our best prospects.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 10:24:33 GMT 1
He got booked at Half time on Saturday for exactly that. Says Helik on Town match report but like you pretty sure it was Hogg who was in the refs face when the card was shown......no mention at all on other media outlets, probably daydreaming? Oggy confirmed it was Hoggy on R.Leeds last night, having spoken to Helik about it.
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Post by araucaria on Aug 9, 2023 10:27:09 GMT 1
Same as last season? Those who saw Preston crucify Danny's much more experienced team last season might disagree.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 9, 2023 10:32:23 GMT 1
You notice when he's not on the pitch though. Agreed. And to be honest, it's shameful that we've gone through 10 years, two Premier League seasons and 100s of millions and we still haven't replaced him with better. 'Shameful' we havent replaced a lad who's been consistently one of our best players in each of those 10 years and someone who is CLEARLY a leader on the pitch. This is 'shameful' to you? Im amazed those responsible can live with themselves with so much shame hanging over them.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 9, 2023 10:35:24 GMT 1
Those putting Headley into the poor bracket I think is harsh. Even if it was a professional foul, so what. He made a mistake in that moment however before that he looked very bright bombing down that wing. He is easily one of our best prospects. Going to be a very good player is Headley. A real prospect. REG though...not a kid anymore. Not good enough to play midfield,,,not strong enough to play centre back. Shame because he had a lot of potential when he first broke through but Im not seeing a championship level player there at all.
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