Nakayama

[ACW]

Oct 25, 2023 6:09:47 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Doesn’t suit the league. He’s a tidy footballer with more ability than most we have but doesn’t have the basic required level of strength or aerial ability to play CB in what is a very physical league. Doesn’t have the pace or energy to play fullback.

Nakayama would have a better career than Pearson in Holland/Spain/Italy etc but here Pearson is much more usable.

Pearson is the almost the exact opposite of Nakayama:

Strong in the air and tackle. Physically strong, but shares Yuta's lack of pace.

However, unlike Nakayama, he is an absolute liability on the ball. Whenever he gets it, my heart sinks because he's either going to hoof it to no one or pass it back to the keeper. He's so poor on the ball it's embarrassing. That said, our manager and players should be well aware of his limitations on the ball and ensure he always has an easy forward/square passing option available.

[Mastercracker]

Oct 25, 2023 9:15:45 GMT 1 ACW said:

Oct 25, 2023 6:09:47 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Doesn’t suit the league. He’s a tidy footballer with more ability than most we have but doesn’t have the basic required level of strength or aerial ability to play CB in what is a very physical league. Doesn’t have the pace or energy to play fullback.

Nakayama would have a better career than Pearson in Holland/Spain/Italy etc but here Pearson is much more usable.

Pearson is the almost the exact opposite of Nakayama:

Strong in the air and tackle. Physically strong, but shares Yuta's lack of pace.

However, unlike Nakayama, he is an absolute liability on the ball. Whenever he gets it, my heart sinks because he's either going to hoof it to no one or pass it back to the keeper. He's so poor on the ball it's embarrassing. That said, our manager and players should be well aware of his limitations on the ball and ensure he always has an easy forward/square passing option available.

I like him cos he's a trier and has made the absolute maximum of his ability which is commendable, but yeah I totally agree.

[Captainslapper]

Oct 25, 2023 9:15:45 GMT 1 ACW said:

Oct 25, 2023 6:09:47 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Doesn’t suit the league. He’s a tidy footballer with more ability than most we have but doesn’t have the basic required level of strength or aerial ability to play CB in what is a very physical league. Doesn’t have the pace or energy to play fullback.

Nakayama would have a better career than Pearson in Holland/Spain/Italy etc but here Pearson is much more usable.

Pearson is the almost the exact opposite of Nakayama:

Strong in the air and tackle. Physically strong, but shares Yuta's lack of pace.

However, unlike Nakayama, he is an absolute liability on the ball. Whenever he gets it, my heart sinks because he's either going to hoof it to no one or pass it back to the keeper. He's so poor on the ball it's embarrassing. That said, our manager and players should be well aware of his limitations on the ball and ensure he always has an easy forward/square passing option available.

Think thats spot on. But the priority has to be the defending ahead of their ability with the ball,,,and in those terms Pearson wipes the floor with Yuta.

Yuta's ability on the ball is 'ok' , but isnt anywhere near good enough to make up for his defensive weaknesses IMO.

[shawsie]

Oct 25, 2023 9:15:45 GMT 1 ACW said:

Oct 25, 2023 6:09:47 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Doesn’t suit the league. He’s a tidy footballer with more ability than most we have but doesn’t have the basic required level of strength or aerial ability to play CB in what is a very physical league. Doesn’t have the pace or energy to play fullback.

Nakayama would have a better career than Pearson in Holland/Spain/Italy etc but here Pearson is much more usable.

Pearson is the almost the exact opposite of Nakayama:

Strong in the air and tackle. Physically strong, but shares Yuta's lack of pace.

However, unlike Nakayama, he is an absolute liability on the ball. Whenever he gets it, my heart sinks because he's either going to hoof it to no one or pass it back to the keeper. He's so poor on the ball it's embarrassing. That said, our manager and players should be well aware of his limitations on the ball and ensure he always has an easy forward/square passing option available.

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Thats pretty much what Carlos did!!

[Porrohman]

Oct 25, 2023 9:55:17 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Oct 25, 2023 9:15:45 GMT 1 ACW said:

Pearson is the almost the exact opposite of Nakayama:

Strong in the air and tackle. Physically strong, but shares Yuta's lack of pace.

However, unlike Nakayama, he is an absolute liability on the ball. Whenever he gets it, my heart sinks because he's either going to hoof it to no one or pass it back to the keeper. He's so poor on the ball it's embarrassing. That said, our manager and players should be well aware of his limitations on the ball and ensure he always has an easy forward/square passing option available.

Think thats spot on. But the priority has to be the defending ahead of their ability with the ball,,,and in those terms Pearson wipes the floor with Yuta.

Yuta's ability on the ball is 'ok' , but isnt anywhere near good enough to make up for his defensive weaknesses IMO.

His ability on the ball is better than anyone else we've got

[boooothy]

Oct 25, 2023 6:09:47 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Doesn’t suit the league. He’s a tidy footballer with more ability than most we have but doesn’t have the basic required level of strength or aerial ability to play CB in what is a very physical league. Doesn’t have the pace or energy to play fullback.

Nakayama would have a better career than Pearson in Holland/Spain/Italy etc but here Pearson is much more usable.

Said the same on the match thread. The more i watch him, the worse i think he is at the skills we need.

He can leave in January for me.

[Porrohman]

Oct 25, 2023 20:05:48 GMT 1 boooothy said:

Oct 25, 2023 6:09:47 GMT 1 Mastercracker said:

Doesn’t suit the league. He’s a tidy footballer with more ability than most we have but doesn’t have the basic required level of strength or aerial ability to play CB in what is a very physical league. Doesn’t have the pace or energy to play fullback.

Nakayama would have a better career than Pearson in Holland/Spain/Italy etc but here Pearson is much more usable.

Said the same on the match thread. The more i watch him, the worse i think he is at the skills we need.

He can leave in January for me.

It's a damning indictment of how shit we are that the skills we need are what a couple of lower league cloggers like Pearson and Lees provide.

[bells ringing :)]

Oct 25, 2023 20:52:13 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Oct 25, 2023 20:05:48 GMT 1 boooothy said:

Said the same on the match thread. The more i watch him, the worse i think he is at the skills we need.

He can leave in January for me.

It's a damning indictment of how shit we are that the skills we need are what a couple of lower league cloggers like Pearson and Lees provide.

but where Nakayama plays, if you don't have the physical attributes. Then how good a footballer you are is pointless. Nakayama is a defender if he hasn't got the physical attributes to cope then he is not use to anyone.

[townarentbest]

Oct 25, 2023 20:52:13 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Oct 25, 2023 20:05:48 GMT 1 boooothy said:

Said the same on the match thread. The more i watch him, the worse i think he is at the skills we need.

He can leave in January for me.

It's a damning indictment of how shit we are that the skills we need are what a couple of lower league cloggers like Pearson and Lees provide.

Lees a lower league clogger? 😂😂😂

500+ appearances across 15 seasons with just two of those not being in the Championship.

Shake your head.


Matty Pearson is however a very very poor footballer, technically and athletically, you can have that!

[shawsie]

Oct 25, 2023 20:52:13 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Oct 25, 2023 20:05:48 GMT 1 boooothy said:

Said the same on the match thread. The more i watch him, the worse i think he is at the skills we need.

He can leave in January for me.

It's a damning indictment of how shit we are that the skills we need are what a couple of lower league cloggers like Pearson and Lees provide.

Lees has played 12 of his 15 career seasons at this level......far from a clogger.
Pearson is more rudimentary - but id take both over yuta in a heartbeat. Maybe its old fashioned but defenders are surely paid to defend our goal. They aint doing it well at times this year but thats not just down to them. The midfield and striking options are so limited.

[Porrohman]

Oct 25, 2023 23:23:40 GMT 1 townarentbest said:

Oct 25, 2023 20:52:13 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

It's a damning indictment of how shit we are that the skills we need are what a couple of lower league cloggers like Pearson and Lees provide.

Lees a lower league clogger? 😂😂😂

500+ appearances across 15 seasons with just two of those not being in the Championship.

Shake your head.


Matty Pearson is however a very very poor footballer, technically and athletically, you can have that!

I'd say the same about Lees. Never rated him before he came here, still don't.

[mids]

Pearson should be in the middle doing what he does best. He isn't a full back or wing back. However, he's still better there than Tom Edwards. He makes me look athletic.

Lees is a solid centre back, especially with the ball in front of him.

Nakayama is an enigma. He has good ball control for a defender, he is a regular international for a decent side in the same positionwe are playing him, but yet he is getting exposed regularly.

We don't have pacy defenders. Helik lumbers about too.

Big changes needed over time as some of those who are currently first choice are simply not good enough. Of those that started on Tuesday only Nicholls, Helik, and Rudoni are truly long term assured of their place. Moore made 4 changes at half time and none of the subs were an improvement.

We are not a good watch, and we haven’t been for a long time either.

[townarentbest]

Oct 26, 2023 7:02:41 GMT 1 mids said:

Nakayama is an enigma. He has good ball control for a defender, he is a regular international for a decent side in the same positionwe are playing him, but yet he is getting exposed regularly.

From what I saw, he looked good in a 4-3-3 v Canada (in a game that Japan cruised through - Canada have gone very backwards and definitely wouldnt be at the '26 World Cup if they werent a host) - the goals game from the players in front of him who were finding things very easy to get forward, not the most difficult of games for a defender but he looked pretty solid for the occasional counter.

I couldnt really work out the formation v Tunisia on TV, it was still a back 4, but the whole shape ahead of him looked very different, and he didn't look anywhere near as solid...Tunisia went with a 3 up front which possibly contributed to this, much more for the Japanese defence to worry about. He was subbed after an hour having looked the weakest part of that back 4, lost possession quite a bit and just didnt really do anything, with the ball being passed around him. The guy who replaced him didn't really provide much of an improvement so maybe it was just down to how the two teams set up.

Unfortunately Town aren't going to be cruising through many games this season - we need defenders who can impose their selves and let the opposition know they're there...the problem is Ruffles is quite similar (but less technically able)...which is why we started with the three of Lees, Helik and Pearson v QPR I suppose. And won. And potentially would have won even more comfortably if Yuta had started in place of Koroma...but you can definitely see why DM would want Koroma on the pitch, and especially after scoring early that then looked like the kind of formation who go on to win as easily as Cardiff did against us.

[Up the Duff.]

Soft as shit and slow as fuck.

You wouldn't want him in the trenches with you.

[Paphos Terrier]

For me Nakayama and Edwards would never play for the club again, they're terrible footballers at this fast, physical level where you have to be strong in the tackle, have speed, and be good in the air.
They fail in all those traits and will always be taken apart with a decent winger

[nutjacker]

Fully agree Paphos. Edwards is possibly the worst player I’ve ever seen at this level, unbelievably slow and out of shape.

Nakayama I have a bit more time for however he is soft as shit, that first goal was a disgrace from him how he allowed James so much space to shoot, pathetic defending from an international player

[Up the Duff.]

This guy can't even take throw ins.

[Paphos Terrier]

I wondered why Warnock never played him after injury.
Having watched him against Cardiff and L666s I now know why.
He is easy to play against, Cardiff ripped him apart, L666s ripped him apart and he wasn't our worst fullback yesterday!!!
He got a 2 from me and the other fella a 1 for having the balls to go on that pitch yesterday impersonating a footballer!

[Deleted]

Still yet to see him have a good game.

Same issues remain.

We had the best LB in the division and basically gave him away in a fire sale!

[kennyk2]

Thought he did OK today... gets a B from me.

[wildhogg]

Agree with the view that Nakayama can go. He's simply not good enough and looking 'ok' on the ball (nothing more, by the way) isn't good enough. Defensively he's woeful. It's worth considering that we signed him from a club which had been relegated from a very average Eredivisie, where the standard is probably comparable to League 1 below the top 4. I'd rather have a clogger like Pearson any day. Him being a Japanese international doesn't tell the full story.

[terriersyndrome]

Yuta is the least of our issues right now. Not sure why people are digging him out when other players are consistently worse? Regularly a 6/7 out of 10 when others are consistently 4/5.

[joeyjoneslocker]

He was ok today. Did a job. One lack of concentration.
People are just hypercritical

[themanfromatlantis]

My guess is that there’s a very good player in there, but playing in a side that’s down in the doldrums means we rarely see what he’s capable of.

[28901]

Oct 25, 2023 20:52:13 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Oct 25, 2023 20:05:48 GMT 1 boooothy said:

Said the same on the match thread. The more i watch him, the worse i think he is at the skills we need.

He can leave in January for me.

It's a damning indictment of how shit we are that the skills we need are what a couple of lower league cloggers like Pearson and Lees provide.

Harsh. They're both better than lower league cloggers.

[drayltonboy (independent)]

Japan's Asia Cup squad is named on Jan 2nd. Comp runs from 12 Jan to 10 Feb. Just saying.

[Sparrow]

i’m pretty sure he’ll be in it. Might make it difficult if we’re looking to move him on in Jan (I’m assuming he leaves in the summer) as clubs might not want to pay for a player that will miss a number of games, when they could get him for free in the summer.

Might also mean we look for a left footed CB if Moore wants to stick with 3 at the back. I personally think we should be looking to sign one regardless.

It’s a shame he got the injury he did, as i’m sure we’ve not seen anything like the best version of him

[Detective Boyle]

Dec 30, 2023 14:51:54 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

i’m pretty sure he’ll be in it. Might make it difficult if we’re looking to move him on in Jan (I’m assuming he leaves in the summer) as clubs might not want to pay for a player that will miss a number of games, when they could get him for free in the summer.

Might also mean we look for a left footed CB if Moore wants to stick with 3 at the back. I personally think we should be looking to sign one regardless.

It’s a shame he got the injury he did, as i’m sure we’ve not seen anything like the best version of him

His composure on the ball is great but his defensive frailties/switch offs have been really disappointing. Saying that, I feel like we’ve generally looked a lot more assured with the 3 we have now. Although he’s been good for us in the main I really hope we don’t bring Pearson back in to the back line to replace him.

[Dillinger]

Dec 30, 2023 14:59:36 GMT 1 Detective Boyle said:

Dec 30, 2023 14:51:54 GMT 1 Sparrow said:

i’m pretty sure he’ll be in it. Might make it difficult if we’re looking to move him on in Jan (I’m assuming he leaves in the summer) as clubs might not want to pay for a player that will miss a number of games, when they could get him for free in the summer.

Might also mean we look for a left footed CB if Moore wants to stick with 3 at the back. I personally think we should be looking to sign one regardless.

It’s a shame he got the injury he did, as i’m sure we’ve not seen anything like the best version of him

His composure on the ball is great but his defensive frailties/switch offs have been really disappointing. Saying that, I feel like we’ve generally looked a lot more assured with the 3 we have now. Although he’s been good for us in the main I really hope we don’t bring Pearson back in to the back line to replace him.

I agree, although I do think he was better last night, and made a few key blocks. Though there have been a few times previously where he and Headley have been 2 on 1 on their winger, and have somehow managed to get beat (think it was Cardiff's first goal in the 0-4).

I think Nakayama, Lees and Helik in a back 3 is decent enough for this level..

[Porrohman]

Yuta named in the Japan squad for the Asia Cup