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Post by mosher on Sept 26, 2024 13:52:46 GMT 1
mosher its not an Allah thing, might be a Christian thing as Allah means God in Arabic. I believe some do it in the hope they're not going to get injured. There are few Christian/Muslim footballers, good for them least they believe in something other than getting pissed and giving it the big I am. I know all that, I was trying to point it out to whoever I replied to  In fact Islam has a much more believable take on Jesus (Issa to Muslims); that he's just a prophet, not the son of god. And he's definitely not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy  |
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Post by benhomly on Sept 26, 2024 13:58:05 GMT 1
mosher its not an Allah thing, might be a Christian thing as Allah means God in Arabic. I believe some do it in the hope they're not going to get injured. There are few Christian/Muslim footballers, good for them least they believe in something other than getting pissed and giving it the big I am. I know all that, I was trying to point it out to whoever I replied to In fact Islam has a much more believable take on Jesus (Issa to Muslims); that he's just a prophet, not the son of god. And he's definitely not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy Imagine being just a prophet and not actually the son of God. 2000 years of fuss over just a prophet  |
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Post by mosher on Sept 26, 2024 14:04:21 GMT 1
I know all that, I was trying to point it out to whoever I replied to In fact Islam has a much more believable take on Jesus (Issa to Muslims); that he's just a prophet, not the son of god. And he's definitely not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy Imagine being just a prophet and not actually the son of God. 2000 years of fuss over just a prophet And how many people killed over that distinction too. Religion/belief in a higher power can be helpful to individuals, but there hasn't been a bigger disruptive influence to the world than organised religion IMO Crusades, Jihad, Inquisition, ISIS, Salem, loads of instances where religion has caused untold pain, horror and death.** ** Which I like in my film viewing habits, not in real life |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 26, 2024 14:15:36 GMT 1
mosher its not an Allah thing, might be a Christian thing as Allah means God in Arabic. I believe some do it in the hope they're not going to get injured. There are few Christian/Muslim footballers, good for them least they believe in something other than getting pissed and giving it the big I am. I know all that, I was trying to point it out to whoever I replied to In fact Islam has a much more believable take on Jesus (Issa to Muslims); that he's just a prophet, not the son of god. And he's definitely not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy Believable to who Muslims, not a Muslim so I don't believe it. Issa incidentally in not just a prophet he is a major prophet along with Abraham, Moses and Muhammad. |
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Post by mosher on Sept 26, 2024 14:31:39 GMT 1
I know all that, I was trying to point it out to whoever I replied to In fact Islam has a much more believable take on Jesus (Issa to Muslims); that he's just a prophet, not the son of god. And he's definitely not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy Believable to who Muslims, not a Muslim so I don't believe it. Issa incidentally in not just a prophet he is a major prophet along with Abraham, Moses and Muhammad. I'm originally a Christian (atheist now) so I didn't believe it either. But as an atheist obviously prophet is much more believable than son of a god I don't believe in lol When I said "just a prophet" I didn't mean he wasn't significant (he, his mother and "father" are HUGE deals in Islam) but compared to son of god, a prophet is "just" a prophet, that's all I meant on that line. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2024 15:11:30 GMT 1
Not changed any point I disagree with that you've said that Im aware of. From your vantage point in your seat, you dont think Hogg has any leadership skills ..despite a long list of managers who know all the characters in the dressing room extremely well choosing to have him as the captain and singing his praises as a leader. Your eyesight is so impressive you can lip read from 60 yards away and know what, if anything, he says to teammates. Hogg raising his arms by his side in a questioning way is 'waving his arms around' If things go badly, we can point a finger at Hogg for his lack of leadership. If things go well its because we're good enough and havent needed his leadership. Not sure which bits you think im not understanding? Yes you have, which is why I keep pointing it out. For him to speak to the players he'd have to look at them not the floor. Again you're not understanding what I'm saying because you've jumped on this "it's all Hogg's fault" which is not what I've said at all but you aren't understanding. For probably the 10th time, there's no leaders in the whole squad is what I've said. Hogg isn't a leader, Sorensen isn't a leader, Evans isn't a leader, Wiles isn't a leader, etc etc etc, there aren't any. He gets chosen as captain because he's been here longest and there's literally nobody else to pick. Isn't Headley in the "leadership group" or what ever it is? That tells you everything. We played shit on Saturday, we played shit on Tuesday. He doesn't make a difference one way or the other. The suggestion (frol you originally) was he'd have had a sore throat bollocking them on Tuesday, well it made absolutely no difference on Saturday. Because..... he isn't a leader. We don't have one. The long list of managers by the way is - Corberan Schofield Fotheringham Warnock Moore Breitenreiter Duff Definitely 4 (maybe 5 at the moment) of those 7 I wouldn't trust to manage a playgroup never mind grown men. Ive just pointed out the bits you've said that I disagree with. Ive not changed anything that I can see. Right, so 7 managers on the trot have chosen him as their skipper..plus the various interim managers...that doesnt tell you something about Hogg? And to be honest, when Schindler was skipper in the PL, it was Hogg that was captain in all but name out on the pitch. Its a bit presumptuous isnt it, to say that he was only chosen because throughout all that time we didnt have any leaders? Did you know all these players to know that? So for the following minutes after that own goal Hogg ran about looking at the floor? You dont think theres even the chance that if he thought a player needed a word afterwards ( we went 1-0 down mid-way through the 1st half..it isnt exactly unknown territory!) , he might have done it without gesticulating wildly so that people in the stands all knew hes 'having a word'? truth is neither you nor I have any idea whats said, or not said, out on the pitch. And yes,, we looked so confused by whatever Duffs instructions and formation had been against Blackpool, I think Hogg would have been a big help out there to try and sort it out. That doesnt mean we never play crap if he is out there..like against Northampton,,, I just think in that game a bit of leadership and experience was particlarly lacking. |
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Post by ldr on Sept 26, 2024 15:39:49 GMT 1
I know all that, I was trying to point it out to whoever I replied to In fact Islam has a much more believable take on Jesus (Issa to Muslims); that he's just a prophet, not the son of god. And he's definitely not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy Imagine being just a prophet and not actually the son of God. 2000 years of fuss over just a prophet It could have been worse: it could have been 2000 years of fuss over a loss. |
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 26, 2024 16:10:19 GMT 1
"And yes,, we looked so confused by whatever Duffs instructions and formation had been against Blackpool, I think Hogg would have been a big help out there to try and sort it out.
That doesnt mean we never play crap if he is out there..like against Northampton,,, I just think in that game a bit of leadership and experience was particlarly lacking".
There was lots of experience out on the pitch on Tuesday night. 1 player with over 600 games, 1 with over 400, 2 with over 300, and 5 with over 300 games. Well over 3,000 games between those 9 players, with a lot of those at League 1 or Championship level.
It wasn't a lack of experience, we were just shit.
Hogg most likely wouldn't have much difference to how shit we were.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 26, 2024 16:44:23 GMT 1
Yes you have, which is why I keep pointing it out. For him to speak to the players he'd have to look at them not the floor. Again you're not understanding what I'm saying because you've jumped on this "it's all Hogg's fault" which is not what I've said at all but you aren't understanding. For probably the 10th time, there's no leaders in the whole squad is what I've said. Hogg isn't a leader, Sorensen isn't a leader, Evans isn't a leader, Wiles isn't a leader, etc etc etc, there aren't any. He gets chosen as captain because he's been here longest and there's literally nobody else to pick. Isn't Headley in the "leadership group" or what ever it is? That tells you everything. We played shit on Saturday, we played shit on Tuesday. He doesn't make a difference one way or the other. The suggestion (frol you originally) was he'd have had a sore throat bollocking them on Tuesday, well it made absolutely no difference on Saturday. Because..... he isn't a leader. We don't have one. The long list of managers by the way is - Corberan Schofield Fotheringham Warnock Moore Breitenreiter Duff Definitely 4 (maybe 5 at the moment) of those 7 I wouldn't trust to manage a playgroup never mind grown men. Ive just pointed out the bits you've said that I disagree with. Ive not changed anything that I can see. Right, so 7 managers on the trot have chosen him as their skipper..plus the various interim managers...that doesnt tell you something about Hogg? And to be honest, when Schindler was skipper in the PL, it was Hogg that was captain in all but name out on the pitch. Its a bit presumptuous isnt it, to say that he was only chosen because throughout all that time we didnt have any leaders? Did you know all these players to know that? So for the following minutes after that own goal Hogg ran about looking at the floor? You dont think theres even the chance that if he thought a player needed a word afterwards ( we went 1-0 down mid-way through the 1st half..it isnt exactly unknown territory!) , he might have done it without gesticulating wildly so that people in the stands all knew hes 'having a word'? truth is neither you nor I have any idea whats said, or not said, out on the pitch. And yes,, we looked so confused by whatever Duffs instructions and formation had been against Blackpool, I think Hogg would have been a big help out there to try and sort it out. That doesnt mean we never play crap if he is out there..like against Northampton,,, I just think in that game a bit of leadership and experience was particlarly lacking. How do you know Hogg was captain in all but name in the Premier League? You can't presume to know that and then know nothing about what goes on now? Talk about being presumptuous?? Your last paragraph is why I give up. The instructions on Tuesday were exactly the same as they were against Northampton, Walsall, Rotherham, Stevenage, Doncaster, Shrewsbury so why he'd have helped on Tuesday when he didn't in any of those when we weren't playing well I have no clue but you've clearly got some insight in to the dressing room that says on that particular night his "leadership" would have helped. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2024 16:47:07 GMT 1
"And yes,, we looked so confused by whatever Duffs instructions and formation had been against Blackpool, I think Hogg would have been a big help out there to try and sort it out. That doesnt mean we never play crap if he is out there..like against Northampton,,, I just think in that game a bit of leadership and experience was particlarly lacking". There was lots of experience out on the pitch on Tuesday night. 1 player with over 600 games, 1 with over 400, 2 with over 300, and 5 with over 300 games. Well over 3,000 games between those 9 players, with a lot of those at League 1 or Championship level. It wasn't a lack of experience, we were just shit. Hogg most likely wouldn't have much difference to how shit we were. You could be right..or maybe he would have. I was thinking more in terms of experience of being captain..of doing a bit of organising...being the managers voice on the pitch. Lees is vastly experienced but hes never struck me as a shouter...bit like Schindler in that respect. One thing amigo is saying that I do agree with is that the current squad lacks those kind of leaders even though there is plenty of experience in there. When you think back to Wagners promotion squad of 16/17, it had plenty of captains and potential captains. After Hogg, this ones a bit lacking in that respect, accepting Nicholls is a vocal player but never been keen on keepers as captains. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2024 16:57:21 GMT 1
Ive just pointed out the bits you've said that I disagree with. Ive not changed anything that I can see. Right, so 7 managers on the trot have chosen him as their skipper..plus the various interim managers...that doesnt tell you something about Hogg? And to be honest, when Schindler was skipper in the PL, it was Hogg that was captain in all but name out on the pitch. Its a bit presumptuous isnt it, to say that he was only chosen because throughout all that time we didnt have any leaders? Did you know all these players to know that? So for the following minutes after that own goal Hogg ran about looking at the floor? You dont think theres even the chance that if he thought a player needed a word afterwards ( we went 1-0 down mid-way through the 1st half..it isnt exactly unknown territory!) , he might have done it without gesticulating wildly so that people in the stands all knew hes 'having a word'? truth is neither you nor I have any idea whats said, or not said, out on the pitch. And yes,, we looked so confused by whatever Duffs instructions and formation had been against Blackpool, I think Hogg would have been a big help out there to try and sort it out. That doesnt mean we never play crap if he is out there..like against Northampton,,, I just think in that game a bit of leadership and experience was particlarly lacking. How do you know Hogg was captain in all but name in the Premier League? You can't presume to know that and then know nothing about what goes on now? Talk about being presumptuous?? Your last paragraph is why I give up. The instructions on Tuesday were exactly the same as they were against Northampton, Walsall, Rotherham, Stevenage, Doncaster, Shrewsbury so why he'd have helped on Tuesday when he didn't in any of those when we weren't playing well I have no clue but you've clearly got some insight in to the dressing room that says on that particular night his "leadership" would have helped. Im not the one claiming to have any insight from my seat....Im just giving my opinion, which as Im not involved is always presumptuous to a point. I dont think Schindler was ever a vocal player at all from what I could see. He may have kept it low level, but I dont recall him ever laying into anyone or obviously discussing things. Hogg on the other hand was clearly doing those things in that side at the time...thats why IMO he was the skipper in all but name. How do you know the instructions were exactly the same? Are you in the dressing room before kick off making notes? How do you know Hoggs influence didnt help get good results in some of those games despite the poor performance? Why arent you mentioning games we played better in? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2024 17:18:54 GMT 1
How do you kdnow Hogg was captain in all but name in the Premier League? You can't presume to know that and then know nothing about what goes on now? Talk about being presumptuous?? Your last paragraph is why I give up. The instructions on Tuesday were exactly the same as they were against Northampton, Walsall, Rotherham, Stevenage, Doncaster, Shrewsbury so why he'd have helped on Tuesday when he didn't in any of those when we weren't playing well I have no clue but you've clearly got some insight in to the dressing room that says on that particular night his "leadership" would have helped. Im not the one claiming to have any insight from my seat....Im just giving my opinion, which as Im not involved is always presumptuous to a point. I dont think Schindler was ever a vocal player at all from what I could see. He may have kept it low level, but I dont recall him ever laying into anyone or obviously discussing things. Hogg on the other hand was clearly doing those things in that side at the time...thats why IMO he was the skipper in all but name. How do you know the instructions were exactly the same? Are you in the dressing room before kick off making notes? How do you know Hoggs influence didnt help get good results in some of those games despite the poor performance? Why arent you mentioning games we played better in? Hogg could be the holder, he cant be anything else, so that means playing Hodge as the pivot, ball player in front of him with a.n.other playing the more forward central midfield role. That may work better?? Hodge almost ended up doing all 3 roles on Tuesday night. With the players we have 4 5 1 might give us better options forward and back.?? I know Duff wont change , he likes the system but it does not really work with who we have, the 5 leaves big holes down the wide areas of our defence and the 3 in the middle of midfield are too far forward or too far back/apart too often. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 26, 2024 17:22:36 GMT 1
I like Hodge.
He easily deserves a place in this side.
But...
He's no Johnny Hogg.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 26, 2024 21:20:54 GMT 1
How do you know Hogg was captain in all but name in the Premier League? You can't presume to know that and then know nothing about what goes on now? Talk about being presumptuous?? Your last paragraph is why I give up. The instructions on Tuesday were exactly the same as they were against Northampton, Walsall, Rotherham, Stevenage, Doncaster, Shrewsbury so why he'd have helped on Tuesday when he didn't in any of those when we weren't playing well I have no clue but you've clearly got some insight in to the dressing room that says on that particular night his "leadership" would have helped. Im not the one claiming to have any insight from my seat....Im just giving my opinion, which as Im not involved is always presumptuous to a point. I dont think Schindler was ever a vocal player at all from what I could see. He may have kept it low level, but I dont recall him ever laying into anyone or obviously discussing things. Hogg on the other hand was clearly doing those things in that side at the time...thats why IMO he was the skipper in all but name. How do you know the instructions were exactly the same? Are you in the dressing room before kick off making notes? How do you know Hoggs influence didnt help get good results in some of those games despite the poor performance? Why arent you mentioning games we played better in? Schindler wasn't captain in our Premier League seasons so not sure why you keep saying he was? He was captain for a year after we were relegated. I'm gobsmacked (although not really because it suits your argument), that it's impossible for me to see a player not giving out instructions but it's perfectly clear for you to be able to. Crazy world. I brought up the shit performances (we've only had 2 good ones) because you said he would definitely have made things better on Tuesday (despite us only improving after he went off on Saturday), but have given no counter argument as to why when in all the other games we haven't performed well he has not made things better? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 27, 2024 0:27:27 GMT 1
Who was captain in our premier league seasons? Tommy Smith? From memory Schindler had the armband when Smith didnt play, which was quite a lot, especially in the 2nd season.
Either way, Smith and/or Schindler on the pitch, Hogg was the skipper in all but name IMO.
I havent seen Schindler ever giving out instructions or bollockings ( or Smith particularly) ...though , as I said, I accept he might have done in a low level way fans ( me ) didnt notice.
Can you say the same about Hogg ? You wont even accept that from your amazing vantage point 60 yards away, you might have missed him talking to a player or two after that OG, if for some weird reason they were struggling to get over that we had gone a goal down half way through the first half.,.. but anyone who's watched us over recent years surely knows Hogg's quite a vocal leader.
Again..how do you know he didnt make things better in those games where we didnt play well?
Some we won...so how do you know that his on field leadership wasnt a major factor in turning that poor performance into 3 points??
You dont know that, like you dont know we had the same instructions before all those games ( because Im guessing you werent in the dressing room listening in) and like you dont know more about Hoggs leadership ability than any of the last 7 managers who've made him their captain.
Think youre stating a lot of things as fact when its just your opinion, based on not a lot.
Which is fine by the way. All we have is opinions.
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Post by willo on Sept 27, 2024 0:45:00 GMT 1
How many hours is this spat going to continue for? 😂
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 27, 2024 7:00:25 GMT 1
Imagine being just a prophet and not actually the son of God. 2000 years of fuss over just a prophet It could have been worse: it could have been 2000 years of fuss over a loss. Instead it’s going to be 2000 years about Hogg being captain material  |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 27, 2024 7:16:48 GMT 1
It could have been worse: it could have been 2000 years of fuss over a loss. Instead it’s going to be 2000 years about Hogg being captain material :o DATM 4024… That Hogg mural needs a lick of paint… |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 27, 2024 7:40:22 GMT 1
I’d be interested to see a Hogg/Hodge dynamic as Hogg has been at his best when he’s alongside someone good on the ball.
I feel like our midfield will develop into Hogg Kasumu and Hodge in time.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 27, 2024 8:17:48 GMT 1
Who was captain in our premier league seasons? Tommy Smith? From memory Schindler had the armband when Smith didnt play, which was quite a lot, especially in the 2nd season. Either way, Smith and/or Schindler on the pitch, Hogg was the skipper in all but name IMO. I havent seen Schindler ever giving out instructions or bollockings ( or Smith particularly) ...though , as I said, I accept he might have done in a low level way fans ( me ) didnt notice. Can you say the same about Hogg ? You wont even accept that from your amazing vantage point 60 yards away, you might have missed him talking to a player or two after that OG, if for some weird reason they were struggling to get over that we had gone a goal down half way through the first half.,.. but anyone who's watched us over recent years surely knows Hogg's quite a vocal leader. Again..how do you know he didnt make things better in those games where we didnt play well? Some we won...so how do you know that his on field leadership wasnt a major factor in turning that poor performance into 3 points?? You dont know that, like you dont know we had the same instructions before all those games ( because Im guessing you werent in the dressing room listening in) and like you dont know more about Hoggs leadership ability than any of the last 7 managers who've made him their captain. Think youre stating a lot of things as fact when its just your opinion, based on not a lot. Which is fine by the way. All we have is opinions. The first paragraph is why I'm not "debating" this anymore - We had 2 captains in the Premier League, neither of which were Hogg, but you say he was the actual captain haha. Why didn't he get given the armband then, or be club captain. Absolute garbage. We didn't get over going a goal down against Northampton, we lost comfortably and they took their foot off the gas so it only ended 3-1 so what ever he did or didn't say clearly didn't make a difference unless you were the one person in the ground that thought we recovered and gave them a great game? Also shouting and pointing at people and flapping your arms up and down like a seagull isn't being a leader. Going back to my original point. The squad has no leaders. It's blatantly obvious. |
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Post by irverino on Sept 27, 2024 8:44:43 GMT 1
Who was captain in our premier league seasons? Tommy Smith? From memory Schindler had the armband when Smith didnt play, which was quite a lot, especially in the 2nd season. Either way, Smith and/or Schindler on the pitch, Hogg was the skipper in all but name IMO. I havent seen Schindler ever giving out instructions or bollockings ( or Smith particularly) ...though , as I said, I accept he might have done in a low level way fans ( me ) didnt notice. Can you say the same about Hogg ? You wont even accept that from your amazing vantage point 60 yards away, you might have missed him talking to a player or two after that OG, if for some weird reason they were struggling to get over that we had gone a goal down half way through the first half.,.. but anyone who's watched us over recent years surely knows Hogg's quite a vocal leader. Again..how do you know he didnt make things better in those games where we didnt play well? Some we won...so how do you know that his on field leadership wasnt a major factor in turning that poor performance into 3 points?? You dont know that, like you dont know we had the same instructions before all those games ( because Im guessing you werent in the dressing room listening in) and like you dont know more about Hoggs leadership ability than any of the last 7 managers who've made him their captain. Think youre stating a lot of things as fact when its just your opinion, based on not a lot. Which is fine by the way. All we have is opinions. The first paragraph is why I'm not "debating" this anymore - We had 2 captains in the Premier League, neither of which were Hogg, but you say he was the actual captain haha. Why didn't he get given the armband then, or be club captain. Absolute garbage.
We didn't get over going a goal down against Northampton, we lost comfortably and they took their foot off the gas so it only ended 3-1 so what ever he did or didn't say clearly didn't make a difference unless you were the one person in the ground that thought we recovered and gave them a great game? Also shouting and pointing at people and flapping your arms up and down like a seagull isn't being a leader. Going back to my original point. The squad has no leaders. It's blatantly obvious. Apparently didn't want it which Wagner respected & even Schindler was reluctant......Although these two were always on the team sheet for DW. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 27, 2024 9:28:09 GMT 1
Who was captain in our premier league seasons? Tommy Smith? From memory Schindler had the armband when Smith didnt play, which was quite a lot, especially in the 2nd season. Either way, Smith and/or Schindler on the pitch, Hogg was the skipper in all but name IMO. I havent seen Schindler ever giving out instructions or bollockings ( or Smith particularly) ...though , as I said, I accept he might have done in a low level way fans ( me ) didnt notice. Can you say the same about Hogg ? You wont even accept that from your amazing vantage point 60 yards away, you might have missed him talking to a player or two after that OG, if for some weird reason they were struggling to get over that we had gone a goal down half way through the first half.,.. but anyone who's watched us over recent years surely knows Hogg's quite a vocal leader. Again..how do you know he didnt make things better in those games where we didnt play well? Some we won...so how do you know that his on field leadership wasnt a major factor in turning that poor performance into 3 points?? You dont know that, like you dont know we had the same instructions before all those games ( because Im guessing you werent in the dressing room listening in) and like you dont know more about Hoggs leadership ability than any of the last 7 managers who've made him their captain. Think youre stating a lot of things as fact when its just your opinion, based on not a lot. Which is fine by the way. All we have is opinions. The first paragraph is why I'm not "debating" this anymore - We had 2 captains in the Premier League, neither of which were Hogg, but you say he was the actual captain haha. Why didn't he get given the armband then, or be club captain. Absolute garbage. We didn't get over going a goal down against Northampton, we lost comfortably and they took their foot off the gas so it only ended 3-1 so what ever he did or didn't say clearly didn't make a difference unless you were the one person in the ground that thought we recovered and gave them a great game? Also shouting and pointing at people and flapping your arms up and down like a seagull isn't being a leader. Going back to my original point. The squad has no leaders. It's blatantly obvious. That's about 5 times you've said "this is why Im not debating it anymore" Yeah, IN MY OPINION FROM WHAT I SAW Hogg was the leader on the pitch over that time. He was the one doing most of the talking, encouraging and bollocking. If me having that opinion makes you 'not want to debate it anymore' then thats a bit odd, but fine, do what makes you happy. No, whatever he did or didnt say against Northampton didnt make an obvious difference. Believe it or not, that doesnt mean it wouldn't have made a difference in an entirely different game, particularly one where the players looked very confused about the roles theyd been given, as appose to just playing badly.! If you have to exaggerate what Hogg did to such silly proportions ( flapping his arms up and down like a seagull ) it just highlights the weakness in your argument.,.. doesnt strengthen it. 'The squad has no leaders'... well after Hogg and Nicholls, Id agree that we seem light on obviously vocal leaders out on the pitch. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 5, 2024 15:41:10 GMT 1
So we can win without him after all
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 5, 2024 16:14:45 GMT 1
So we can win without him after all I’m his biggest fan, but you simply can’t change that midfield based on the performance today. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 5, 2024 16:16:04 GMT 1
So we can win without him after all I’m his biggest fan, but you simply can’t change that midfield based on the performance today. Hodge looked like he had done his groin so Duff might have no option but to change it |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Oct 5, 2024 16:16:14 GMT 1
So we can win without him after all A sly shot at one of our greatest ever players, but well done, you. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 5, 2024 16:17:57 GMT 1
I’m his biggest fan, but you simply can’t change that midfield based on the performance today. Hodge looked like he had done his groin so Duff might have no option but to change it True. Hope it wasn’t too serious because Hodge was impressive today. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Oct 5, 2024 16:18:21 GMT 1
So we can win without him after all I’m his biggest fan, but you simply can’t change that midfield based on the performance today. One day his time might come to stand down, and it might just be now. We should all salute a true Town great, nonetheless.  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 5, 2024 16:20:59 GMT 1
I’m his biggest fan, but you simply can’t change that midfield based on the performance today. One day his time might come to stand down, and it might just be now. We should all salute a true Town great, nonetheless. Clp Absolutely. If he can’t start he’s still an asset on the bench. If ever a player deserved a testimonial. |
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Post by Bubbles on Oct 5, 2024 16:24:12 GMT 1
So we can win without him after all A sly shot at one of our greatest ever players, but well done, you. A good servant..but “greatest ever players.” Really? |
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