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Post by Stiggy on Jan 14, 2024 13:18:19 GMT 1
Who’s betting we’ll get to the end of the window and we’ll get the usual excuses.
The players didn’t want to come or we couldn’t get the deals over the line blah blah blah.
Questions have to be asked why these players don’t want to come and where we’re going wrong getting the deals done.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 14, 2024 13:22:38 GMT 1
Who’s betting we’ll get to the end of the window and we’ll get the usual excuses. The players didn’t want to come or we couldn’t get the deals over the line blah blah blah. Questions have to be asked why these players don’t want to come and where we’re going wrong getting the deals done. Because we don't pay them enough. |
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Post by royrace on Jan 14, 2024 13:33:12 GMT 1
I've just told you. Yesterday was a prime example. Just posting rambling tweets. Why does he need to say anything after a game? And I said its a cop out. I dont look at his twitter very often, but i've looked since yesterday and dont see rambling or anything I disagree with - so which part is nonsense? I understand it's wise to keep things in house, but the club has too long suffered from mismanagement and utter abject mediocrity in all areas of practice. It needs shaking up, holding to account, being told its not good enough. I think Nagle is saying "im doing my bit, are the rest?" If he's putting his money where his mouth is, and rolling up his sleeves, I dont take issue with it. Not sure why fans are, it's exactly what we want/think, but he's wrong for saying it. I hope it makes people at the club embarrassed.. maybe even angry. This isnt the sheff weds owner type thing. Nagle seems fiercly driven and competetive.. If he loses that, starts shifting blame, not putting his money in and just sniping on twitter, then i'll take issue with it. I think he’s posting like he is in an attempt to keep fans engaged at a time when nothing else is. I personally feel better knowing he deems it unacceptable rather than being accepting of it. If things ever become more stable however I would prefer he refrains from tweeting after the match to criticise the performance. It’s not a good look and doesn’t help. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jan 14, 2024 13:37:43 GMT 1
We want more communication from the club!
Not like that though…
Can’t make it up.
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Post by Randy Watson on Jan 14, 2024 13:43:06 GMT 1
You're not keen on the guy are you ? |
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Post by Randy Watson on Jan 14, 2024 13:44:47 GMT 1
We want more communication from the club! Not like that though… Can’t make it up. I like it. The man's got passion for the club and the Town. We should embrace that IMO. UTT |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 14, 2024 13:48:55 GMT 1
And I said its a cop out. I dont look at his twitter very often, but i've looked since yesterday and dont see rambling or anything I disagree with - so which part is nonsense? I understand it's wise to keep things in house, but the club has too long suffered from mismanagement and utter abject mediocrity in all areas of practice. It needs shaking up, holding to account, being told its not good enough. I think Nagle is saying "im doing my bit, are the rest?" If he's putting his money where his mouth is, and rolling up his sleeves, I dont take issue with it. Not sure why fans are, it's exactly what we want/think, but he's wrong for saying it. I hope it makes people at the club embarrassed.. maybe even angry. This isnt the sheff weds owner type thing. Nagle seems fiercly driven and competetive.. If he loses that, starts shifting blame, not putting his money in and just sniping on twitter, then i'll take issue with it. I think he’s posting like he is in an attempt to keep fans engaged at a time when nothing else is. I personally feel better knowing he deems it unacceptable rather than being accepting of it. If things ever become more stable however I would prefer he refrains from tweeting after the match to criticise the performance. It’s not a good look and doesn’t help. To be fair he owns the club so he can say whatever he wants basically - he’s invested more $$$ in HTAFC than any of us….. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 13:52:21 GMT 1
You're not keen on the guy are you ? I can only judge him on what he does. So far I'm just not impressed. And as far as I'm aware, I'm allowed to have that opinion. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 13:53:20 GMT 1
I think he’s posting like he is in an attempt to keep fans engaged at a time when nothing else is. I personally feel better knowing he deems it unacceptable rather than being accepting of it. If things ever become more stable however I would prefer he refrains from tweeting after the match to criticise the performance. It’s not a good look and doesn’t help. To be fair he owns the club so he can say whatever he wants basically - he’s invested more $$$ in HTAFC than any of us….. And we can say whatever we want in response. We were here long before he rocked up and will be here long after he's pissed off. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jan 14, 2024 13:54:56 GMT 1
We want more communication from the club! Not like that though… Can’t make it up. I like it. The man's got passion for the club and the Town. We should embrace that IMO. UTT I completely agree, it’s quite fresh and much better than the silence we’ve endured in recent years. |
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Post by benhomly on Jan 14, 2024 13:57:53 GMT 1
Who’s betting we’ll get to the end of the window and we’ll get the usual excuses. The players didn’t want to come or we couldn’t get the deals over the line blah blah blah. Questions have to be asked why these players don’t want to come and where we’re going wrong getting the deals done. So you want to start asking questions now why players don't want to come to Town when there's still 17 days left of the transfer window and they might actually still come (and 2 have already come)? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:06:50 GMT 1
I've seen lots of continued criticism of Moore on this thread, and I have no idea if he will be a good manager when he has better players, but have a think about yesterdays team. We have 5 'first team' strikers in the squad and not one fit enough to play. We had a really good structure forming down the left with Headley, Rudoni & Nakayama and he has lost 2 of those, so it all needed changing. Matos looks like he needs games to get his fitness up and to bed into the team but I'm sure he will really help, but he was off the pace for a chunk of yesterday. There were loads of posts saying why play Spencer on the left of a three and he had a great game. He gave us some of the passing range we lost with Nakayama missing. If we could have started with a striker yesterday, the new lad or Del, we probably wouldn't have played Jackson, who has done well at right back but people seem to think he had a poor game, and we would have had a finisher in the box. Josh did well but he had it all to do on his own. We desperately need some players back to give DM proper options and some more new additions. You’re right, injuries are killing us, I’m just worried that it’s not a happy camp and the ones “fit” are not playing for him. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if we changed the manager and our injury issues miraculously start clearing up. I don’t think it looks like they aren’t playing for him. Lack of effort has never been a criticism under DM, lack of quality certainly though. Regarding injuries, teams doing well seem to have fewer injuries as well. Everyone has a bit more in the tank. On a slight side track, why on earth anyone thought booing them yesterday was helpful is utterly beyond me. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:07:33 GMT 1
You’re right, injuries are killing us, I’m just worried that it’s not a happy camp and the ones “fit” are not playing for him. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if we changed the manager and our injury issues miraculously start clearing up. I don’t think it looks like they aren’t playing for him. Lack of effort has never been a criticism under DM, lack of quality certainly though. Regarding injuries, teams doing well seem to have fewer injuries as well. Everyone has a bit more in the tank. On a slight side track, why on earth anyone thought booing them yesterday was helpful is utterly beyond me. Should they cheer them off instead? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:08:35 GMT 1
You're not keen on the guy are you ? I can only judge him on what he does. So far I'm just not impressed. And as far as I'm aware, I'm allowed to have that opinion. Which actions, or inactions, make you feel that way? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:11:21 GMT 1
I can only judge him on what he does. So far I'm just not impressed. And as far as I'm aware, I'm allowed to have that opinion. Which actions, or inactions, make you feel that way? There has been no improvement whatsoever on the pitch, in fact, we have regressed. We are worse than we were before he became the owner. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:11:38 GMT 1
I don’t think it looks like they aren’t playing for him. Lack of effort has never been a criticism under DM, lack of quality certainly though. Regarding injuries, teams doing well seem to have fewer injuries as well. Everyone has a bit more in the tank. On a slight side track, why on earth anyone thought booing them yesterday was helpful is utterly beyond me. Should they cheer them off instead? Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:14:25 GMT 1
Should they cheer them off instead? Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. Because the performance was rubbish and it's the only way supporters can show their dissatisfaction. They're lucky there's still people in the ground to boo them off, as the fans are deserting in their droves. |
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Post by townatheart on Jan 14, 2024 14:17:41 GMT 1
You're not keen on the guy are you ? I can only judge him on what he does. So far I'm just not impressed. And as far as I'm aware, I'm allowed to have that opinion. I'm not an expert on this social media lark, so help me out here, as what you appear to say is you are exercising your right to express your opinion, but questioning his? Are owners excluded from right to express opinion, is that the rule? |
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 14, 2024 14:20:46 GMT 1
Should they cheer them off instead? Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. I simply don’t understand why folk bother going. It’s like they prefer us to not win so they can boo and moan. And I’m not a happy clapper. But if you boo and moan constantly all it does is put even more pressure on them. We are simply just not good enough at this level Without the injury list we’d probably be ok but you just can’t get away playing without a striker. Thought josh and sorba did well enough but neither has a strikers instinct and automatically resort to their natural position. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:22:41 GMT 1
I can only judge him on what he does. So far I'm just not impressed. And as far as I'm aware, I'm allowed to have that opinion. I'm not an expert on this social media lark, so help me out here, as what you appear to say is you are exercising your right to express your opinion, but questioning his? Are owners excluded from right to express opinion, is that the rule? I'd suggest there's an unwritten rule in English football that the owners don't tend to pass constant comment on performances. How many owners in the Football League are posting "NOT GOOD ENOUGH" or "THAT WAS A REAL DRUBBING" after games? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:23:33 GMT 1
Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. I simply don’t understand why folk bother going. It’s like they prefer us to not win so they can boo and moan. And I’m not a happy clapper. But if you boo and moan constantly all it does is put even more pressure on them. We are simply just not good enough at this level Without the injury list we’d probably be ok but you just can’t get away playing without a striker. Thought josh and sorba did well enough but neither has a strikers instinct and automatically resort to their natural position. You really think anyone goes down on a Saturday wanting us to lose? |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 14, 2024 14:25:26 GMT 1
Should they cheer them off instead? Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. Applaud them for that. We have paid money to watch that dross. I am not a 'booer', I will applaud when deserved and stay quiet when shit. Shows how bad we have got when the biggest cheers are for a good tackle or a little bit of pressing. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:27:55 GMT 1
Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. Applaud them for that. We have paid money to watch that dross. I am not a 'booer', I will applaud when deserved and stay quiet when shit. Shows how bad we have got when the biggest cheers are for a good tackle or a little bit of pressing. I didn't boo them off either, but I can understand exactly why they did. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:37:47 GMT 1
Which actions, or inactions, make you feel that way? There has no improvement whatsoever on the pitch, in fact, we have regressed. We are worse than we were before he became the owner. Summer was poor but everything was new to everyone except Warnock. We have a really poor squad and he is trying to address that. Nobody will ever know why we ended up with not improving in the summer but Warnock insisting on resigning Ward and Ruffells, possibly the best left back in the division, will not have helped. It has been a steep learning curve for everyone but the owner has come over for a month to try and make sure this window is better, and so far it is, but that is not an easy process, as he is finding out. Many things at the club needed to change but that all takes time. He looks very committed to improving things on and off the pitch. I really can’t see what your issue is. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jan 14, 2024 14:38:34 GMT 1
You’re right, injuries are killing us, I’m just worried that it’s not a happy camp and the ones “fit” are not playing for him. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if we changed the manager and our injury issues miraculously start clearing up. I don’t think it looks like they aren’t playing for him. Lack of effort has never been a criticism under DM, lack of quality certainly though. Regarding injuries, teams doing well seem to have fewer injuries as well. Everyone has a bit more in the tank. On a slight side track, why on earth anyone thought booing them yesterday was helpful is utterly beyond me. Booing the team is the only way the fans have of expressing their displeasure at the dross being served up. Listening to Koroma post match Moore is clearly blowing smoke up their arses and telling them we are playing well. In most of his interviews he talks about the club / group progressing and just needing to stick to what we’re doing. I’ve not heard him once acknowledge that results need to improve quickly. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:40:28 GMT 1
There has no improvement whatsoever on the pitch, in fact, we have regressed. We are worse than we were before he became the owner. Summer was poor but everything was new to everyone except Warnock. We have a really poor squad and he is trying to address that. Nobody will ever know why we ended up with not improving in the summer but Warnock insisting on resigning Ward and Ruffells, possibly the best left back in the division, will not have helped. It has been a steep learning curve for everyone but the owner has come over for a month to try and make sure this window is better, and so far it is, but that is not an easy process, as he is finding out. Many things at the club needed to change but that all takes time. He looks very committed to improving things on and off the pitch. I really can’t see what your issue is. I've told you what my issue is, there has been no improvement on the pitch and have actually got worse on the pitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:41:36 GMT 1
Why not? Just applaud the effort. Did they look like they didn’t care? Did they get hammered? When did it become the norm to boo a team off who drew? We would all prefer to win, the guys out there on the pitch at least as much as we do. Because the performance was rubbish and it's the only way supporters can show their dissatisfaction. They're lucky there's still people in the ground to boo them off, as the fans are deserting in their droves. Numbers have been on the decline for a long while. Was the performance rubbish given all the players missing, no striker and two new additions in Matos & Spencer? We all know we need better players, we all know injuries are hurting us but how is booing the players who were out there helping? It is just plain stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:43:02 GMT 1
Summer was poor but everything was new to everyone except Warnock. We have a really poor squad and he is trying to address that. Nobody will ever know why we ended up with not improving in the summer but Warnock insisting on resigning Ward and Ruffells, possibly the best left back in the division, will not have helped. It has been a steep learning curve for everyone but the owner has come over for a month to try and make sure this window is better, and so far it is, but that is not an easy process, as he is finding out. Many things at the club needed to change but that all takes time. He looks very committed to improving things on and off the pitch. I really can’t see what your issue is. I've told you what my issue is, there has been no improvement on the pitch and have actually got worse on the pitch. Half of the buggers are out injured. Why does Nagle get the blame for that? |
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 14, 2024 14:46:27 GMT 1
You’re right, injuries are killing us, I’m just worried that it’s not a happy camp and the ones “fit” are not playing for him. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if we changed the manager and our injury issues miraculously start clearing up. I don’t think it looks like they aren’t playing for him. Lack of effort has never been a criticism under DM, lack of quality certainly though. Regarding injuries, teams doing well seem to have fewer injuries as well. Everyone has a bit more in the tank. On a slight side track, why on earth anyone thought booing them yesterday was helpful is utterly beyond me. I thought they weren’t playing for him against Preston and at times yesterday there was a distinct lack of urgency and desire to win. I don’t mean they’re not running, but they’re not showing for the ball or moving into space and trying to create. That smacks of players going through the motions to me. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 14, 2024 14:46:56 GMT 1
I've told you what my issue is, there has been no improvement on the pitch and have actually got worse on the pitch. Half of the buggers are out injured. Why does Nagle get the blame for that? He appointed the bloke who is presiding over this shitshow. |
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