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Post by htafcokay on Mar 10, 2024 18:17:32 GMT 1
You can't blame Nagle when he and the team were too late to make big moves in the summer. Yes Moore was a mistake but it made sense on paper if we wanted a long term replacement. He has also dipped his hand deep into a pocket in January and got us a good manager. Hoyle has delivered us a great ride and left us better off and wrote away £40m to save us from administration. We have had shit look with injuries and the penalty drought included a 3rd place finish. If this result has ruined your weekend you need to grow up. Also would you say we deserve to go down if we stay up despite the horrendous luck we've had all season. Nagle took over in June, he had plenty of time. |
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 10, 2024 18:21:36 GMT 1
You can't blame Nagle when he and the team were too late to make big moves in the summer. Yes Moore was a mistake but it made sense on paper if we wanted a long term replacement. He has also dipped his hand deep into a pocket in January and got us a good manager. Hoyle has delivered us a great ride and left us better off and wrote away £40m to save us from administration. We have had shit look with injuries and the penalty drought included a 3rd place finish. If this result has ruined your weekend you need to grow up. Also would you say we deserve to go down if we stay up despite the horrendous luck we've had all season. Nagle took over in June, he had plenty of time. Did you listen to his Radio Leeds interview. He said they had so little time to prepare for the window compared to most other clubs and that was without a head of recruitment as well. They had said that January would be an important window and the recruitment was good. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 10, 2024 18:23:59 GMT 1
Nagle took over in June, he had plenty of time. Did you listen to his Radio Leeds interview. He said they had so little time to prepare for the window compared to most other clubs and that was without a head of recruitment as well. They had said that January would be an important window and the recruitment was good. He, and the club thought they could get away with not signing any strikers in the summer when it was pretty obvious we needed some. The recruitment in January was good? We signed two sicknotes and the softest striker in the world! |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 10, 2024 18:25:45 GMT 1
Another weekend ruined. We absolutely deserve everything we get this season. Thanks DH for not backing Carlos, the best thing that happened to us since 2017. Then selling the crown jewels (again) Thanks KN and team for hiring and sticking with the worst appointment in the history of the club. This is ultimately what will send us down. Thanks for ANOTHER summer of not even trying to buy a striker, IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP! Our January business was shocking - Balker, constantly injured. Bojan, constantly injured. Healy, Out for the season. Matos, looks like we can't even play him. An insane amount of injuries yet again this season (Up to 13 first team players/replacements) at any given time not fit to play. It can't be a coincidence. Luck - To not have a penalty at home for 70 games. To be on the wrong side of almost every 50/50 offside decision is expected when you're struggling. On paper, how the hell is a team in the relegation zone? The majority of our 11 will get moves to championships sides if we go down. Garbage 2nd half, could see within 5 minutes we were standing off them. I can't see who we beat at the minute. Rotherham will smell blood and be well up for it. EDIT: ... and don't get me started on our creative maestro Ben Wiles.. The club has certainly rode it's luck on the back of some very poor boardroom decisions, don't think no1 could really complain if relegation does happen. Personally I think we will be ok and not be relegated and then the club will then kick on slowly in the right direction. We need stabilisation, we have a very patient fanbase fortunately for the club, who deserve more for their loyalty. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Mar 10, 2024 18:25:49 GMT 1
Nagle took over in June, he had plenty of time. Did you listen to his Radio Leeds interview. He said they had so little time to prepare for the window compared to most other clubs and that was without a head of recruitment as well. They had said that January would be an important window and the recruitment was good. I’m not so sure about that. He said in August word for word “We are also moving in a different direction by not just churning the roster year over year. That’s not a long term strategy.” Which suggests that he never thought new signings were a big requirement for the squad. Problem was that a few months later he realised how terrible our roster was! 🤣 |
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Post by jim100 on Mar 10, 2024 18:29:55 GMT 1
The recruitment hasn't been good on January. All either injured or not fit enough.
Although Moore was terrible I don't think the squad is anywhere near good enough for mid table championship. We don't have the quality to make the pressure count.
The first half for example we should have been home and dry but we don't have the players to put teams to the sword when applying pressure.
Rudoni much as I want him to be good doesn't do enough around the box as per Glennons observation today. Top end league 1 at best.
Kasumi, Headley, sorba aren't consistent enough and seem to drift in and out of the squad.
Hogg,Lees,Pearson although great pros are now beginning to look past it.
Helik and Spencer probably only two are championship class
This is the worry athough I'm sure Andre is a good coach we cannot expect another Warnock type miracle
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Post by Flowerdisco on Mar 10, 2024 18:31:38 GMT 1
Get a grip Today's result was a shambles but to say its another weekend ruined ? Nothing wrong with being disappointed buy for another weekend ruined I'd suggest you find another hobby. Being a Town fan I'd suggest you've had a lot of ruined weekends. On another thread Terrier10 lost his father I'd suggest you rethink what you post. Perhaps upon reflection you may realise what's important in life. Low blow. You could reply with the same to absolutely any thread on this website - because ultimately it’s not life and death. It may not be but it doesn’t change the fact that Huddersfield Town are a really important part of people’s life and will evoke big reactions from people. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Agree with that apart from reaction I'd say over reaction |
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Post by Morning Norwood on Mar 10, 2024 18:32:51 GMT 1
Everyone got so hung up on strikers in the summer, they forgot about any quality in midfield. West Brom turned it up a notch second half in midfield and their quality certainly showed. If folk think Rudoni and Kasumu are the answer, I’d hate to see the question.
Bright side is some cracking away days next season. Mansfield being the standout
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Post by jim100 on Mar 10, 2024 18:34:33 GMT 1
Low blow. You could reply with the same to absolutely any thread on this website - because ultimately it’s not life and death. It may not be but it doesn’t change the fact that Huddersfield Town are a really important part of people’s life and will evoke big reactions from people. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Agree with that apart from reaction I'd say over reaction Today was hard to take after the first half. As we should have been out of sight but probably knew what was coming knowing how good Carlos is at changing games. So a bit of hyperbole is expected after a crushing defeat |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Mar 10, 2024 18:39:35 GMT 1
Ruined my weekend etc etc no.
However the point of not backing Carlos, yes that was criminal and stupidity at its best. Edit, but I think we all already knew that.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Mar 10, 2024 18:42:34 GMT 1
What a dumbass thread this is.
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 10, 2024 18:48:32 GMT 1
Did you listen to his Radio Leeds interview. He said they had so little time to prepare for the window compared to most other clubs and that was without a head of recruitment as well. They had said that January would be an important window and the recruitment was good. He, and the club thought they could get away with not signing any strikers in the summer when it was pretty obvious we needed some. The recruitment in January was good? We signed two sicknotes and the softest striker in the world! Matos has been good and so has Balker. Radulovic and Healey haven't played enough for an opinion to be made on them. |
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 10, 2024 18:51:39 GMT 1
Did you listen to his Radio Leeds interview. He said they had so little time to prepare for the window compared to most other clubs and that was without a head of recruitment as well. They had said that January would be an important window and the recruitment was good. I’m not so sure about that. He said in August word for word “We are also moving in a different direction by not just churning the roster year over year. That’s not a long term strategy.” Which suggests that he never thought new signings were a big requirement for the squad. Problem was that a few months later he realised how terrible our roster was! 🤣 And that's why we've made just 8 signings with more hits than misses. Also we didn't lose too many out and out first team players in the summer and we got Sorba back from his loan. |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 10, 2024 18:58:29 GMT 1
He, and the club thought they could get away with not signing any strikers in the summer when it was pretty obvious we needed some. The recruitment in January was good? We signed two sicknotes and the softest striker in the world! Matos has been good and so has Balker. Radulovic and Healey haven't played enough for an opinion to be made on them. Matos has been good. Balker has barely played. Healey has played even less. Radulovic is garbage. That isn't good recruitment. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 10, 2024 18:58:34 GMT 1
I completely understand the frustration and wouldn't disagree with some of the reasons quoted for our problems. I would also note that those quick to deride those who are frustrated as "bedwetters" are either incredibly naive or pure wind up merchants.
The fact is irrespective of the outcome of this season it is incumbent on Mr Nagle to really grab hold of the club, change the narrative and direction. To some extent he has now started to do this, sadly that might prove to have been too late.
It's natural that we will debate the causes and reasons it is also likely people will disagree. That won't move us forward.
There are still enough games to save our Championship status but tonight it is also possible that we may lose that status. Whatever the outcome things really do need to change. I hope Mr Nagle gets that, I'm hopeful he does, and has the desire to really do something about it. The change is long overdue, but it would be a lot more challenging from League One.
I would hope that we can all get behind the players for these remaining games. As I said the frustration is palpable but we can't do much right now other than give things a go.
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 10, 2024 19:02:14 GMT 1
Another weekend ruined. We absolutely deserve everything we get this season. Thanks DH for not backing Carlos, the best thing that happened to us since 2017. Then selling the crown jewels (again) Thanks KN and team for hiring and sticking with the worst appointment in the history of the club. This is ultimately what will send us down. Thanks for ANOTHER summer of not even trying to buy a striker, IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP! Our January business was shocking - Balker, constantly injured. Bojan, constantly injured. Healy, Out for the season. Matos, looks like we can't even play him. An insane amount of injuries yet again this season (Up to 13 first team players/replacements) at any given time not fit to play. It can't be a coincidence. Luck - To not have a penalty at home for 70 games. To be on the wrong side of almost every 50/50 offside decision is expected when you're struggling. On paper, how the hell is a team in the relegation zone? The majority of our 11 will get moves to championships sides if we go down. Garbage 2nd half, could see within 5 minutes we were standing off them. I can't see who we beat at the minute. Rotherham will smell blood and be well up for it. EDIT: ... and don't get me started on our creative maestro Ben Wiles.. Weekend ruined? Grow up. We lost, much more important things going on in the world.Yep - For sure ! Just back in from a beautiful run up Loch Etive to see if I could spy with or without the binos - oystercatchers, plovers, mallards, lapwings, curlews etc... And while disappointed (but also realistic) the result didn’t in any way spoil ma enjoyment of a lovely afternoon - And for more important things going on in the world rockwall, I simply wouldn’t know nor care ! - I’ve not watched the news since I turned 50 in June 2020 as the Covid tragedies being reported were causing me too much stress and just like picking Huddersfield Town as ma favourite English football team is up there as ma best decisions - so is stopping watching the International news ! I would reccomend that course of action to everyone as everyone will feel so much better 😊 by not watching the news... 😊 Looking forward to the simple things in life like taking ma old maw out for mother’s day dinner in a nice restaurant tonight !!! 👍 🥃 |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Mar 10, 2024 19:15:52 GMT 1
He, and the club thought they could get away with not signing any strikers in the summer when it was pretty obvious we needed some. The recruitment in January was good? We signed two sicknotes and the softest striker in the world! Matos has been good and so has Balker. Radulovic and Healey haven't played enough for an opinion to be made on them. Careful, common sense and a balanced viewpoint don't go down well on here. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 10, 2024 19:20:05 GMT 1
In response to the OP, we only deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom three. We are obviously one of the weaker sides in the division, but until we are either safe or relegated we have no idea where we deserve to finish.
We were utterly shite for most of last season but finished well clear of the bottom three.
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Post by 2ellandback on Mar 10, 2024 19:34:17 GMT 1
In response to the OP, we only deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom three. We are obviously one of the weaker sides in the division, but until we are either safe or relegated we ha e no idea where we deserve to finish. We were utterly shite for most of last season but finished well clear of the bottom three. Win on Saturday, then two weeks to work with the players. We have every chance of staying up. |
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Post by joek on Mar 10, 2024 19:53:49 GMT 1
Agreed. We've been 'sleepwalking' into this position for several years now - it'll probably finally catch us up. I'm struggling a bit to care. I absolutely don't want to see my club relegated but the way we've been run is laughable and as OP alludes to, it feels like we deserve it. Not investing in summer, sacking Warnock, hiring Moore, sticking with Moore. Just disaster after disaster waiting to happen. Granted, we tried to strengthen in January and many on here were quite excited, but it appears we didn't really do our homework. Breitenreiter looked to be a masterstroke on paper but based on the previous two games, the jury is still out. This won't matter to many and maybe I should lighten up, but we play well against Leeds and our club advisor gets overly excited and "shit talks" their fans on Twitter - wonder who's laughing now? Do we understand our situation and how weak we look? I'm at a bit of a loss with the club. We've shot ourselves in the foot such a ridiculous amount of times since the Prem that it's crazy we're still in this division. It has been a managed decline by those above - which is criminal. On paper, this will be one of the strongest sides to get relegated from the championship. We are not League 1 fodder like Rotherham/Peterborough or have a team of overpaid mercenaries - We have had the crown Jewels sold too many times and SHOCKING managerial decsiosn over and over again. Also a chronic lack of investment until January when we (Again) bought a bunch of crocks! Literally a laughing stock Why are you under the impression that the squad is so good? How many games have this squad won this season? Last season? If we go down it will be deserved, not some kind of fluke. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Mar 10, 2024 19:56:16 GMT 1
I’m not so sure about that. He said in August word for word “We are also moving in a different direction by not just churning the roster year over year. That’s not a long term strategy.” Which suggests that he never thought new signings were a big requirement for the squad. Problem was that a few months later he realised how terrible our roster was! 🤣 And that's why we've made just 8 signings with more hits than misses. Also we didn't lose too many out and out first team players in the summer and we got Sorba back from his loan. Mehhh you might be pushing it slightly with that opening statement. Every single signing from that point was today either injured, unfit or dropped. I don’t think even the most optimistic could say more hits than misses at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2024 19:58:19 GMT 1
In response to the OP, we only deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom three. We are obviously one of the weaker sides in the division, but until we are either safe or relegated we have no idea where we deserve to finish. We were utterly shite for most of last season but finished well clear of the bottom three. And this weekend is the first time we've actually been in the drop zone. |
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Post by dm on Mar 10, 2024 20:19:58 GMT 1
Hoyle is more to blame than Nagle for me.
The weak squad isn't a new situation. The squad was essentially neglected for a few years.
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Post by pieceofbread1 on Mar 10, 2024 20:26:13 GMT 1
Hoyle is more to blame than Nagle for me. The weak squad isn't a new situation. The squad was essentially neglected for a few years. Rite can this narrative stop . Phil hodkinson hung onto the shares in the hopes we’d get promoted to premiership so he could claw back money he’d lost through his business collapsing . Phil hodkinson almost put our club into administration . He was still majority shareholder . Fucking how Phil hodkinson doesn’t get blamed is beyond me |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 10, 2024 20:27:37 GMT 1
Hoyle is more to blame than Nagle for me. The weak squad isn't a new situation. The squad was essentially neglected for a few years. Rite can this narrative stop . Phil hodkinson hung onto the shares in the hopes we’d get promoted to premiership so he could claw back money he’d lost through his business collapsing . Phil hodkinson almost put our club into administration . He was still majority shareholder . Fucking how Phil hodkinson doesn’t get blamed is beyond me Said it for years, Hodgkinson is conveniently overlooked when the blame starts getting passed around. Hoyle gets the blame for selling it to a knobhead with no money, but the knobhead with no money never gets any blame for buying something he knew he couldn't afford. |
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Post by dm on Mar 10, 2024 20:32:31 GMT 1
Hoyle is more to blame than Nagle for me. The weak squad isn't a new situation. The squad was essentially neglected for a few years. Rite can this narrative stop . Phil hodkinson hung onto the shares in the hopes we’d get promoted to premiership so he could claw back money he’d lost through his business collapsing . Phil hodkinson almost put our club into administration . He was still majority shareholder . Fucking how Phil hodkinson doesn’t get blamed is beyond me Tbf, Hodgkinson managed to clear out all the overpaid shite that DH authorised. Hodgkinson didn't buy much of note but when was the last adequate player Hoyle bought? That is the neglect I'm talking of. |
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 10, 2024 20:35:49 GMT 1
Can people stop saying “drop zone” please? It’s some Sky Sports new football fan bollocks. Relegation zone was always fine.
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 10, 2024 20:39:58 GMT 1
In response to the OP, we only deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom three. We are obviously one of the weaker sides in the division, but until we are either safe or relegated we ha e no idea where we deserve to finish. We were utterly shite for most of last season but finished well clear of the bottom three. Win on Saturday, then two weeks to work with the players. We have every chance of staying up. Rotherham will not be easy far from it and we have quite a tough run in. Problem i have is that every new manager takes tine to get to know what his best team is and we don't have that time. I think we will be looking at best of getting 10 points from our remaining games and it is a possibility we will be going to Barrow next season |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 10, 2024 20:40:46 GMT 1
Did you listen to his Radio Leeds interview. He said they had so little time to prepare for the window compared to most other clubs and that was without a head of recruitment as well. They had said that January would be an important window and the recruitment was good. I’m not so sure about that. He said in August word for word “We are also moving in a different direction by not just churning the roster year over year. That’s not a long term strategy.” Which suggests that he never thought new signings were a big requirement for the squad. Problem was that a few months later he realised how terrible our roster was! 🤣 Don't get me wrong, he should have done a little diligence. But when the messiah says that this squad is capable of the play offs.... surely you believe him? Most on here believe every word that comes from his mouth, so why shouldn't Kev? |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 10, 2024 20:43:25 GMT 1
Can people stop saying “drop zone” please? It’s some Sky Sports new football fan bollocks. Relegation zone was always fine. This is my 🚽🚽’drop zone’🚽🚽 workshyfop !!! 😬 |
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