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Post by aksaiblue on Mar 13, 2024 2:59:01 GMT 1
Our run in looks very reasonable, feels an over exaggerated response by some Agree - add to that, this squad has experienced a relegation battle last season. you would hope/expect that this experience will be a positive going into the remaining fixtures. If we survive and I think we will, next season will see more positives than negatives. - UTT |
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Post by goodbet on Mar 13, 2024 14:10:20 GMT 1
It never comes down to what you deserve, luck, referees and the quality of choices made will be what decides where we end up. We can argue all day and not come to an agreement about luck and refereeing. The same could be said about the decisions Town have made. From our heady days in the premiership we have been in a constant mode of cutting costs and selling our better players. There have been many comments made about how we can't pass to our own players and keep possession of the ball during games and this is the result of budgets we have had to impose after wasting loads on money. Under our new management you can see that the cutting back seems to have continued if you look at the number of players we have brought in and let go including loans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023%E2%80%9324_Huddersfield_Town_A.F.C._seasonIn the January window we did bring more players in, but they don't appear to be Championship ready which is what most on here were hoping for. Due to injuries (yet again with our transfers) we have yet to see the benefits that we hope they will bring to the team. We are where we are because we have been running with a league one budget for some time. I don't believe that we deserve to go down, but we seem to have been working towards it for some time now. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 13, 2024 15:03:34 GMT 1
Going back to the original title of this thread. Yes we are in a poor position, made 3 signings in January who have hardly been fit, bad luck or bad signings time will tell. But can someone explain why they feel we deserve relegation. Rotherham have gone but don’t so why we deserve relegation anymore than Wednesday, QPR, Birmingham, Stoke, and potentially another 4 clubs. Surely we deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom 3, if we don’t then we don’t.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 13, 2024 15:24:34 GMT 1
Going back to the original title of this thread. Yes we are in a poor position, made 3 signings in January who have hardly been fit, bad luck or bad signings time will tell. But can someone explain why they feel we deserve relegation. Rotherham have gone but don’t so why we deserve relegation anymore than Wednesday, QPR, Birmingham, Stoke, and potentially another 4 clubs. Surely we deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom 3, if we don’t then we don’t. I think the OP means in terms the club has been shite on and off the pitch since leaving the PL with owners who had lost interest, no investment, wasted the PL legacy, with poor managerial appointments with poor signings this has translated to results and performances on the pitch. I would actually say a lot of it has bordered on gross negligence at worst and dereliction of duty at best. |
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Post by detox on Mar 13, 2024 16:00:03 GMT 1
Going back to the original title of this thread. Yes we are in a poor position, made 3 signings in January who have hardly been fit, bad luck or bad signings time will tell. But can someone explain why they feel we deserve relegation. Rotherham have gone but don’t so why we deserve relegation anymore than Wednesday, QPR, Birmingham, Stoke, and potentially another 4 clubs. Surely we deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom 3, if we don’t then we don’t. I think the OP means in terms the club has been shite on and off the pitch since leaving the PL with owners who had lost interest, no investment, wasted the PL legacy, with poor managerial appointments with poor signings this has translated to results and performances on the pitch. I would actually say a lot of it has bordered on gross negligence at worst and dereliction of duty at best. I agree...we've botched things up for years...including the dodgy sale to Big Phil. The thing is though, all this started not so much when we got relegated from the PL, but the season after when DH said he wanted his £45m back... The PL legacy disappered overnight, and the deal with Phil that backfired...and in the end DH doesn't get most of his money back anyway.... That decision set the agenda from which we've never recovered and there are no winners. |
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Post by mosher on Mar 13, 2024 16:13:01 GMT 1
I think the OP means in terms the club has been shite on and off the pitch since leaving the PL with owners who had lost interest, no investment, wasted the PL legacy, with poor managerial appointments with poor signings this has translated to results and performances on the pitch. I would actually say a lot of it has bordered on gross negligence at worst and dereliction of duty at best. I agree...we've botched things up for years...including the dodgy sale to Big Phil. The thing is though, all this started not so much when we got relegated from the PL, but the season after when DH said he wanted his £45m back... The PL legacy disappered overnight, and the deal with Phil that backfired...and in the end DH doesn't get most of his money back anyway.... That decision set the agenda from which we've never recovered and there are no winners.This. No matter what you think of DH (I loved 90% of his tenure) that decision (or rather the timing of it) has seriously screwed us up. He should have taken it back whilst we were in the Prem or when we got there. He'd have got pelters from some sections obviously, but we certainly wouldn't be in the shitshow we are now IMO And if he'd taken it back in the first season maybe we wouldn't have bought the dross we went down with  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 17:05:33 GMT 1
Going back to the original title of this thread. Yes we are in a poor position, made 3 signings in January who have hardly been fit, bad luck or bad signings time will tell. But can someone explain why they feel we deserve relegation. Rotherham have gone but don’t so why we deserve relegation anymore than Wednesday, QPR, Birmingham, Stoke, and potentially another 4 clubs. Surely we deserve relegation if we finish in the bottom 3, if we don’t then we don’t. I think the OP means in terms the club has been shite on and off the pitch since leaving the PL with owners who had lost interest, no investment, wasted the PL legacy, with poor managerial appointments with poor signings this has translated to results and performances on the pitch. I would actually say a lot of it has bordered on gross negligence at worst and dereliction of duty at best. That's exactly what I mean. For people to take me literally and say "The 3 teams with the least points after 46 games deserve relegation" are missing the point or likely causing an argument for arguments sake. It's pretty obvious I mean it in the sense of the management of this club has been negligent for many years now. With the managers/talent/opportunity that we have/had; not even mentioning the parachute payments - to be in this position now is abysmal. |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 13, 2024 19:58:04 GMT 1
I think the OP means in terms the club has been shite on and off the pitch since leaving the PL with owners who had lost interest, no investment, wasted the PL legacy, with poor managerial appointments with poor signings this has translated to results and performances on the pitch. I would actually say a lot of it has bordered on gross negligence at worst and dereliction of duty at best. That's exactly what I mean. For people to take me literally and say "The 3 teams with the least points after 46 games deserve relegation" are missing the point or likely causing an argument for arguments sake. It's pretty obvious I mean it in the sense of the management of this club has been negligent for many years now. With the managers/talent/opportunity that we have/had; not even mentioning the parachute payments - to be in this position now is abysmal. It has been a shit show, however, some clubs do drop and drop again, which we didn't, so at least it's not been a total disaster....!! |
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 13, 2024 20:00:17 GMT 1
Who was it who said "football is more than a game, it's a religion", i think it was one of our former managers Bill Shankley and who would argue with him.
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Post by johntheterrier on Mar 13, 2024 20:03:10 GMT 1
Who was it who said "football is more than a game, it's a religion", i think it was one of our former managers Bill Shankley and who would argue with him. Shankly once said "some people think that football is a matter of life and death. It isn't. It's much more important than that" 🤣🤣🤣👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 18:08:42 GMT 1
Another weekend ruined. We absolutely deserve everything we get this season. Thanks DH for not backing Carlos, the best thing that happened to us since 2017. Then selling the crown jewels (again) Thanks KN and team for hiring and sticking with the worst appointment in the history of the club. This is ultimately what will send us down. Thanks for ANOTHER summer of not even trying to buy a striker, IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP! Our January business was shocking - Balker, constantly injured. Bojan, constantly injured. Healy, Out for the season. Matos, looks like we can't even play him. An insane amount of injuries yet again this season (Up to 13 first team players/replacements) at any given time not fit to play. It can't be a coincidence. Luck - To not have a penalty at home for 70 games. To be on the wrong side of almost every 50/50 offside decision is expected when you're struggling. On paper, how the hell is a team in the relegation zone? The majority of our 11 will get moves to championships sides if we go down. Garbage 2nd half, could see within 5 minutes we were standing off them. I can't see who we beat at the minute. Rotherham will smell blood and be well up for it. EDIT: ... and don't get me started on our creative maestro Ben Wiles.. Bump |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 16, 2024 18:29:04 GMT 1
We knew the thread was coming from you, and we knew the bump was also coming from you
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 18:32:40 GMT 1
We knew the thread was coming from you, and we knew the bump was also coming from you Yeah it looks pretty good after todays performance doesn't it! What a shambles we are |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Mar 16, 2024 18:34:42 GMT 1
We‘ll deserve relegation if and only if we get relegated.
Let’s instead deal with truths:
- we have assembled a squad of professional footballers who struggle to pass the ball short distances. Not rarely, not sometimes, but frequently and noticeably. It is quite astonishing.
- we have assembled a squad of professional footballers who waste many of the overall low number of good chances we create.
- we carry very little threat in open play and are poor at shooting.
- a clear and recognisable playing style has been non-existent since Corberan left.
- our recruitment over the last two seasons has been poor (on the whole).
- we have flirted with relegation in 7 out of the last 9 seasons
- David Hartrick’s comment but it’s true: this squad has played well for about 5 weeks in the last 20 months.
- we look short of ideas and since the Leeds game have been really poor. We’re going to need to step up massively to compete in some of the important fixtures after the international break.
- I’m tired of going back to it but there’s a bizarre culture of failure at this club. The years since relegation from the Premier League have been dramatic but pathetic. We’ve been so bad that the little moments of good have probably seemed better than they were in reality. We’ve thoroughly wasted the money and opportunity we received with promotion to the division above.
- I’m tired of watching Town
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 18:38:12 GMT 1
Almost all of our woes since 2018 have been self inflicted; especially many of the most recent ones.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 16, 2024 20:34:56 GMT 1
Almost all of our woes since 2018 have been self inflicted; especially many of the most recent ones. We’ve failed to invest in 2 key positions since the Prem Goal scorer and creative midfielder There’s no short cuts here. Hoyle tried to do it for years. They’re expensive and without them you’re going to struggle. The new regime has identified you need to spend some money but even those we got in Jan just aren’t good enough/injury prone. |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Mar 16, 2024 20:38:10 GMT 1
I wonder what effect, if any, having an owner that spends the majority of his time at the other side of the Atlantic has. Surely in such desperate times you would want the top man to be managing the club in a pretty full time and hands on capacity?
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Post by ACW on Mar 16, 2024 20:42:07 GMT 1
We‘ll deserve relegation if and only if we get relegated. Let’s instead deal with truths: - we have assembled a squad of professional footballers who struggle to pass the ball short distances. Not rarely, not sometimes, but frequently and noticeably. It is quite astonishing. - we have assembled a squad of professional footballers who waste many of the overall low number of good chances we create. - we carry very little threat in open play and are poor at shooting. - a clear and recognisable playing style has been non-existent since Corberan left. - our recruitment over the last two seasons has been poor (on the whole). - we have flirted with relegation in 7 out of the last 9 seasons - David Hartrick’s comment but it’s true: this squad has played well for about 5 weeks in the last 20 months. - we look short of ideas and since the Leeds game have been really poor. We’re going to need to step up massively to compete in some of the important fixtures after the international break. - I’m tired of going back to it but there’s a bizarre culture of failure at this club. The years since relegation from the Premier League have been dramatic but pathetic. We’ve been so bad that the little moments of good have probably seemed better than they were in reality. We’ve thoroughly wasted the money and opportunity we received with promotion to the division above. - I’m tired of watching Town Sadly, I can't argue with any of that. But let's hope we can somehow scrape survival this season and look to progress next season. Without hope, what else do we have? |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Mar 16, 2024 20:42:46 GMT 1
Our run in looks very reasonable, feels an over exaggerated response by some we literally failed to lay a glove on the worst team in the division and you think the reactions are over exaggerated? Really? |
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Post by gbow on Mar 16, 2024 21:36:42 GMT 1
Tired of fighting relegation battles in the Championship year after year. If we do go down, at least it'll make a change to fight a relegation battle in League 1 :/
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Post by willo on Mar 17, 2024 2:32:58 GMT 1
Things could be worse, we haven’t just been pumped 5-1 at home in League 2 against Mansfield Town! 😂😂😂
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 17, 2024 2:42:00 GMT 1
Things could be worse, we haven’t just been pumped 5-1 at home in League 2 against Mansfield Town! 😂😂😂 Weird thing is they are only 7 points behind last playoff spot with 2 games in hand, they can't buy a win on the paddy field!!, must be stage fright in front of massive crowds!!, the natives around me are still smarting from the 50 quid rise in season tickets!!, made me laugh at least after towns lack of efforts today. |
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Post by mightyterrier on Mar 17, 2024 8:12:46 GMT 1
Our run in looks very reasonable, feels an over exaggerated response by some we literally failed to lay a glove on the worst team in the division and you think the reactions are over exaggerated? Really? There’s plenty more winnable games, I have faith |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 17, 2024 9:11:33 GMT 1
we literally failed to lay a glove on the worst team in the division and you think the reactions are over exaggerated? Really? There’s plenty more winnable games, I have faith True but the trouble is we've seen too many winnable games pass us by, without winning them. |
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Post by benhomly on Mar 17, 2024 9:34:47 GMT 1
8 wins in 38 games, the thread title is correct.
What makes anyone think we can get the 4 we will probably need to stay up in the last 8 games?
Especially when our 'exciting' new appointment seemingly has better options on the bench and refuses to bring them on even when his original selections aren't producing the goods.
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 17, 2024 9:36:34 GMT 1
If we’re in bottom 3 after 46 games we deserve to go down.
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Post by benhomly on Mar 17, 2024 9:47:16 GMT 1
If we’re in bottom 3 after 46 games we deserve to go down. Sometimes you don't always get what you deserve in life. Apart from those 2 ridiculous seasons at the other end of the table where Hoyle got lucky with Wagner and Corberan performed miracles with a very average squad we've finished 19th, 17th, 16th, 19th, 16th, 18th, 20th and 18th (and some of those placings have flattered us). I would argue other teams deserve a chance to see if they can make a better fist of it than we have in the Championship. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 17, 2024 10:13:55 GMT 1
If we’re in bottom 3 after 46 games we deserve to go down. Sometimes you don't always get what you deserve in life. Apart from those 2 ridiculous seasons at the other end of the table where Hoyle got lucky with Wagner and Corberan performed miracles with a very average squad we've finished 19th, 17th, 16th, 19th, 16th, 18th, 20th and 18th (and some of those placings have flattered us). I would argue other teams deserve a chance to see if they can make a better fist of it than we have in the Championship. If we finish above 22nd matters shit what anyone argues , nobody is taking HTFC s place, we will be a championship club and every year can bring changes in a clubs fortunes so who gives a dam what’s happened before , so as a town fan I will back this club to the hilt and not give a dam about someone else’s team  ? Deserving a chance Instead of my beloved town. |
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 17, 2024 12:05:58 GMT 1
If we’re in bottom 3 after 46 games we deserve to go down. Sometimes you don't always get what you deserve in life. Apart from those 2 ridiculous seasons at the other end of the table where Hoyle got lucky with Wagner and Corberan performed miracles with a very average squad we've finished 19th, 17th, 16th, 19th, 16th, 18th, 20th and 18th (and some of those placings have flattered us). I would argue other teams deserve a chance to see if they can make a better fist of it than we have in the Championship. What a load of tosh, so we deserve to go down because we’ve stayed up previously on merit? Granted, we’ve not sustained any mid table finishes, but it’s a 24 team league and we’ve been better than at least 3 of them since our promotion in 2012. |
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Post by benhomly on Mar 17, 2024 12:08:36 GMT 1
Sometimes you don't always get what you deserve in life. Apart from those 2 ridiculous seasons at the other end of the table where Hoyle got lucky with Wagner and Corberan performed miracles with a very average squad we've finished 19th, 17th, 16th, 19th, 16th, 18th, 20th and 18th (and some of those placings have flattered us). I would argue other teams deserve a chance to see if they can make a better fist of it than we have in the Championship. If we finish above 22nd matters shit what anyone argues , nobody is taking HTFC s place, we will be a championship club and every year can bring changes in a clubs fortunes so who gives a dam what’s happened before , so as a town fan I will back this club to the hilt and not give a dam about someone else’s team ? Deserving a chance Instead of my beloved town. I do, that's why I posted what I did. It's boring. Spent the last hour or so walking the dogs (much more fun) and was trying to remember how many games I've actually enjoyed this season and came up with Blackburn (H), Sheff Wed (H), Leeds (H) and Southampton (A). Even at our cheap prices that's more than £80 a game so far, assuming I don't get to enjoy any more at home. Anyone who thinks that's value for money is insane and you can probably apply the same for most of those seasons I mentioned above. |
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