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Post by daltonterrier44 on Mar 29, 2024 18:53:10 GMT 1
2 wingers upfront missing chances and 5 at the back with absolutely no identity or game plan whatsoever, thrown in no subs at half time and over all looking not arsed in the slightest and I see a major issue at this club…the players are awful and that clear as day but Worthington got so much more out of them, we are due a huge clear out of these players who have horrendous attitudes…but AB simply isn’t the man..you cannot be this stubborn in our position, bin him tonight.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Mar 29, 2024 18:55:12 GMT 1
18 months. 6 managers. Constantly battling relegation. When will some fans realise it's not the manager? The players are not good enough. Maybe League One is what we need, full factory reset. If that does happen, I for one, hope we stick with the manager. The players arent good enough but every single person at Rotherham could see we needed some subs. Look what happened today with actual strikers playing upfront. Bojan and Healy linked up nicely a couple of times and must have passed to each other more than Koroma and Burgzorg |
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Post by irverino on Mar 29, 2024 18:56:54 GMT 1
Some of the comments about Worthy & Co are utterly ridiculous, we were rubbish against SW for an hour but we won 4-0 & then other games were just poor, we beat Sunderland & was very unlucky against timewasting Hull......The only reason AB came in early was because of what he saw in the JW games, bizarre comments.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 29, 2024 19:00:31 GMT 1
Its without doubt the players. Simply not good enough and im not sure some of the care. Della walks off at 2-0 down, constantly offside. Wanker.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 29, 2024 19:09:27 GMT 1
AB doesn't have a clue how to get the best out of this squad. I'd seriously call it a day now and bring Worthington back in for the last 7 We can’t. We just can’t. All the teams in the top 11 haven’t changed manager all season, look at what Robins has done with the years he’s had at Coventry. We can’t keep chucking managers under the bus. The guy has won more than all of our players together, I’d much rather keep him and sack the players off regardless of division. |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Mar 29, 2024 19:14:40 GMT 1
AB doesn't have a clue how to get the best out of this squad. I'd seriously call it a day now and bring Worthington back in for the last 7 We can’t. We just can’t. All the teams in the top 11 haven’t changed manager all season, look at what Robins has done with the years he’s had at Coventry. We can’t keep chucking managers under the bus. The guy has won more than all of our players together, I’d much rather keep him and sack the players off regardless of division. Jos Luhukay won 3 promotions out of bundesliga.2 with twice winning it and he was absolutely hopeless as Sheff Wednesday, some coaches aren’t cut out for this league..it dosent help he looks so disinterested, nearly Stan Ternant level. |
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 29, 2024 19:17:36 GMT 1
Everyone is collectively to blame.
Maybe not as much as everyone else right now but AB - far too slow in making decisions in game. He needs to learn the championship, and learn it fast if he's to keep us in it.
Players - they should really be ashamed of their performances this season. There's been a few stand outs, Helik & Spencer particularly have been refreshing. Sorba Thomas also worth a shout. However, for the rest, they need to be held accountable as much as anyone. It's alright Pearson flinging his arms in the air following some criticism but what was he expecting? They aren't fit to wear the shirt.
MC - Assuming signings are made on his watch? Matos has been OK.. but Balker - made of glass, Radulovic has so far been crap, Tom Edwards - don't get me started on that fat fucker. We're playing an old, slow CB who is shit on the ball, probably lower L1 standard at best, at RB, because Tom Edwards is so shit.
Edwards/KN - Removing NW when we're as comfortable as we've been all season? So fucking what if he wants to sign his own players or use a certain agency. He was getting results. The appointment of Moore - probably the main reason we are where we are. 2 coaches or people in charge have got results out of the team this season and both of them have been removed from their positions. The football might have been shit at times but we were picking up points under them.
Collectively as a whole club, this season has been an absolute fucking shambles. Yet they will happily raise the cost of season cards and mug us all off next season.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 19:19:59 GMT 1
It has been a house of cards for years - it has finally collapsed. Struggle to pin the blame on anyone in particular to be honest. There must be at least 10 contributing people/factors.
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 29, 2024 19:20:43 GMT 1
Coventry had about £17m up top, and they didn’t have 3 pence to rub together not long since whilst we were collecting premier league money and parachute payments for 5 seasons. The difference in composure and first touch between them and our lot was night and day.
We’ve played at being a championship club ever since we got promotion in 2012. How we’ve been to two play off finals I have no idea because as usual with town it’s all been on the cheap and make do and mend.
Wank.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 19:23:07 GMT 1
18 months. 6 managers. Constantly battling relegation. When will some fans realise it's not the manager? The players are not good enough. Maybe League One is what we need, full factory reset. If that does happen, I for one, hope we stick with the manager. Said it before, all these managers we've had can't all be shit. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 19:25:21 GMT 1
It has been a house of cards for years - it has finally collapsed. Struggle to pin the blame on anyone in particular to be honest. There must be at least 10 contributing people/factors. Hoyle and Hodgkinson are two of the main protaganists for a good starting point. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 29, 2024 19:36:03 GMT 1
We can’t. We just can’t. All the teams in the top 11 haven’t changed manager all season, look at what Robins has done with the years he’s had at Coventry. We can’t keep chucking managers under the bus. The guy has won more than all of our players together, I’d much rather keep him and sack the players off regardless of division. Jos Luhukay won 3 promotions out of bundesliga.2 with twice winning it and he was absolutely hopeless as Sheff Wednesday, some coaches aren’t cut out for this league..it dosent help he looks so disinterested, nearly Stan Ternant level. And look at the mess Sheffield Wednesday are in. They’ve landed on Danny Rohl by complete accident and he’ll no doubt do a Corberan this summer and clear off elsewhere. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Mar 29, 2024 19:39:21 GMT 1
no, but the fat lady is just off stage doing her vocal exercises... |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Mar 29, 2024 19:54:22 GMT 1
It has been a house of cards for years - it has finally collapsed. Struggle to pin the blame on anyone in particular to be honest. There must be at least 10 contributing people/factors. Hoyle and Hodgkinson are two of the main protaganists for a good starting point. Don't know why your having a pop at Hodgkinson. Yes he didn't have enough money. But he made the change of managers at the correct time and both times he got it right. It's partly become Carlos wasn't backed financially that the we ourselves in this mess. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 29, 2024 20:01:16 GMT 1
What we really need is Big Phil’s brains with Nagle’s pockets.
Sadly, our recent history is like a double helix: we’ve either had money or nous but never both together.
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 29, 2024 20:07:46 GMT 1
Yeah, let's put Worthington back in charge and then crucify him when he loses a couple.
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Post by waggers on Mar 29, 2024 20:10:56 GMT 1
It has been a house of cards for years - it has finally collapsed. Struggle to pin the blame on anyone in particular to be honest. There must be at least 10 contributing people/factors. Hoyle and Hodgkinson are two of the main protaganists for a good starting point. Phil didn't have enough cash, but to be fair his footballing decisions were decent. He was daft for agreeing to 'buy' the club but he suited Hoyle's interests. Long term (3+ years) Nagle might learn the English game and hire the right people, we're an absolute mess. |
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 29, 2024 20:12:48 GMT 1
It has been a house of cards for years - it has finally collapsed. Struggle to pin the blame on anyone in particular to be honest. There must be at least 10 contributing people/factors. Hoyle and Hodgkinson are two of the main protaganists for a good starting point. ] FFS, didn't think it would be that long before someone was blaming DH. New managers need time to know what their best team and formation is, trouble is we don't have that time and i don't think we will get more than 7 points; |
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Post by Floyds on Mar 29, 2024 20:14:37 GMT 1
Difficult to pin all the blame on AB, but he’s not got them playing.
We’ve got worse since he joined and the team he picks / how we set up / the subs we make is all on him. And none of that is any good.
First half today we wouldn’t have looked out of place in the District League!
Hopefully he’ll be on his way with the rest of them when we’re relegated.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 20:15:51 GMT 1
Hoyle and Hodgkinson are two of the main protaganists for a good starting point. Phil didn't have enough cash, but to be fair his footballing decisions were decent. He was daft for agreeing to 'buy' the club but he suited Hoyle's interests. Long term (3+ years) Nagle might learn the English game and hire the right people, we're an absolute mess. I would agree but for buying the club without the necessary funds is a grave error of judgement. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 20:17:34 GMT 1
Hoyle and Hodgkinson are two of the main protaganists for a good starting point. ] FFS, didn't think it would be that long before someone was blaming DH. New managers need time to know what their best team and formation is, trouble is we don't have that time and i don't think we will get more than 7 points; I know some Town fans think he's still untouchable, you evidently do, but Hoyle's role in the clubs current predicament is plain to all, deny it all you want but I would agree we can't keep harking back. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 29, 2024 20:19:20 GMT 1
Im constantly amazed at how many times in games a Town player has nobody to pass to within 20 yards of him???
It amazes me further when nobody covers for each other.
Its not a lack of talent, its simply a lack of commitment to work hard enough, often enough.
Add in all the sick notes we have signed or re signed and you have the issues at Town in a nutshell.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 29, 2024 20:21:47 GMT 1
The players are of course culpable.
But the people responsible for assembling this squad and making the judgement that they were able to compete in this league are the ones who have caused all of this.
Today, Coventry were stronger, faster, had better movement and better technique.
We had ( as an example ) Headley tacking himself in the 2nd half before putting the ball into touch.
In January they decided ( at last ) that we needed a striker.
I must admit, I thought that at last we would be seeing the arrival of a Championship quality forward.
Healy has been unlucky with injury - but who was the person who when carrying out due diligence, thought that Bojan could make the required immediate impact?
That is just totally reprehensible.
I have never seen a Town side so inept in forward areas.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Mar 29, 2024 20:24:52 GMT 1
Everyone is collectively to blame. Maybe not as much as everyone else right now but AB - far too slow in making decisions in game. He needs to learn the championship, and learn it fast if he's to keep us in it. Players - they should really be ashamed of their performances this season. There's been a few stand outs, Helik & Spencer particularly have been refreshing. Sorba Thomas also worth a shout. However, for the rest, they need to be held accountable as much as anyone. It's alright Pearson flinging his arms in the air following some criticism but what was he expecting? They aren't fit to wear the shirt. MC - Assuming signings are made on his watch? Matos has been OK.. but Balker - made of glass, Radulovic has so far been crap, Tom Edwards - don't get me started on that fat fucker. We're playing an old, slow CB who is shit on the ball, probably lower L1 standard at best, at RB, because Tom Edwards is so shit. Edwards/KN - Removing NW when we're as comfortable as we've been all season? So fucking what if he wants to sign his own players or use a certain agency. He was getting results. The appointment of Moore - probably the main reason we are where we are. 2 coaches or people in charge have got results out of the team this season and both of them have been removed from their positions. The football might have been shit at times but we were picking up points under them. Collectively as a whole club, this season has been an absolute fucking shambles. Yet they will happily raise the cost of season cards and mug us all off next season. Absolutely nailed it !!! |
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Post by softboy on Mar 29, 2024 20:26:32 GMT 1
With this guy in charge we ain’t got a hope of staying up. I thought DM was a mistake but under him we were ok at the back and shit up front. Now we are shit all over the place. His tactics of only bringing strikers on as a last resort are bizarre to say the least
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 29, 2024 20:26:57 GMT 1
Yeah, let's put Worthington back in charge and then crucify him when he loses a couple. He made the right decision, didn't he? |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 29, 2024 20:29:59 GMT 1
Yeah, let's put Worthington back in charge and then crucify him when he loses a couple. He made the right decision, didn't he? Of course. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 29, 2024 20:35:45 GMT 1
Im constantly amazed at how many times in games a Town player has nobody to pass to within 20 yards of him??? It amazes me further when nobody covers for each other. Its not a lack of talent, its simply a lack of commitment to work hard enough, often enough. Add in all the sick notes we have signed or re signed and you have the issues at Town in a nutshell. Agreed. Our support play is often pathetic. And has been under different managers. Lads with limited technical ability playing without support/options. What could go wrong? |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Mar 29, 2024 20:35:55 GMT 1
Our recruitment of players has been shocking and it is till continuing, who do we blame!! i know lets blame Dean Hoyle. The club is run like a Sunday pub team it is a disgrace and i wonder who will be first to jump ship when we get relegated and i do not blame Nagle.
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Post by willo on Mar 29, 2024 20:39:46 GMT 1
We have some pretty average players, some of who may mature and improve given time. 3 critical errors this season; sacking Warnock, appointing Moore as his successor and then not getting shut early enough. It is at the door of those people who made these decisions if we are ultimately relegated. I remain hopeful AB will come good but he needs to be able to change things much quicker than he does when things aren’t working.
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