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Post by Uddersfeeled on Apr 10, 2024 13:23:46 GMT 1
The gulf in quality that second half was embarrassing Preston..Nice slick passing and comfortable on the ball playing with purpose...then you look at us..its like we were trying to pass a bag of cement I had a light bulb moment last night... we really are shit and look every much a bottom 3 sideI can't see anything other than another hiding on Saturday I have tried to remain positive most of the season but its now clear to me we just aren't good enough...Millwall can beat Leicester...Owls come back from 2 nil down to draw with Norwich...and us,we get hit for 3/4 goals by any team in the top half of the table....we really have sunk a long way down!! Much as it pains me to say I agree with you based on our last two performances. The momentum shifted to our relegation rivals last night and we seem to have gone backwards. Saturday was poor by anyones football standards (whether you take account for the wind or not) and we were fortunate to get away with 3 pts. Last night was atrocious. Players that can pass and compete, just didn't. We've seen this season, albiet inconsistently, that they can produce and string more than two accurately placed passes together so I'm honestly at a complete loss but there will still be more twists and turns to come and we still have 6 home pts to fight for. Will it be another great escape or will it be 3rd time unlucky, only time will tell. I can't see it being resolved one way or another before the last game of the season though. Oh to be a terrier eh !!!  |
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Post by 2ellandback on Apr 10, 2024 13:40:37 GMT 1
I think his departure from Town was more for financial reasons, I heard he was a high earner. In terms of a footballing decision, it was a wrong one. You heard correct. Didn’t we have to subsidise his wages? |
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Post by rab030 on Apr 10, 2024 13:49:36 GMT 1
Seriously, are we the only fans that blame everything on referees? Lose a game = ref's fault. Get relegated = ref's fault. Don't get promoted = ref's fault. Never the players, is it? We actually sang last night - "we only get shit refs" I actually think some people believe that is the case. I give in  |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 10, 2024 13:51:02 GMT 1
Seriously, are we the only fans that blame everything on referees? Lose a game = ref's fault. Get relegated = ref's fault. Don't get promoted = ref's fault. Never the players, is it? We actually sang last night - "we only get shit refs" I actually think some people believe that is the case. I give in The fans of every club in the 92 will tell you the refs hate them and they only get shit refs. We must be one of the only clubs to blame everything on them though. There's some on here that will seriously tell you the last relegation was because of referees. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 10, 2024 13:55:50 GMT 1
I’m not blaming the officials for our loss the 2nd half collapse was nothing short of pathetic, but how bad was the Lino on the left hand side looking out from away end. Constantly getting involved in waving his flag at minor tussles where both players were doing the tussling. It actually felt like the Lino had a vested interest in us losing . Wanker.
Besides that we were shit and deserved all we got.
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Post by rab030 on Apr 10, 2024 14:15:43 GMT 1
Its taken me this long to read all the comments after going to Preston last night.
I actually have no words to describe how I'm feeling - but an offer to refund all the fans that travelled to the game last night would be a good starting point.
I appreciate we need points and some might applaud bringing on more attacking players BUT
Its half-time and we are winning 1-0. We know we are shit and that PNE cant be as bad in the 2nd half.
Why not pack the midfield and defence and try to hold on to what you have?
I'm not sure taking off the whole midfield and playing 5 up front is a great idea.
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Post by rab030 on Apr 10, 2024 14:17:39 GMT 1
Not very Bright-right ?
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Post by King Neil on Apr 10, 2024 14:43:35 GMT 1
At least we will win a few games in league 1
I've forgotten how it feels to be happy on a Saturday/Tues weds evenings and playing through the match and goals in your head and eventually going to bed happy
I feel so angry today!!
We just roll over and let anyone stuff us..no heart no anything 😢
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 10, 2024 14:48:41 GMT 1
At least we will win a few games in league 1I've forgotten how it feels to be happy on a Saturday/Tues weds evenings and playing through the match and goals in your head and eventually going to bed happy I feel so angry today!! We just roll over and let anyone stuff us..no heart no anything 😢 I remember saying this in 2019 about relegation to the Championship. Look how that's turned out. 😭 |
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 10, 2024 14:51:34 GMT 1
I went to bed last night feeling angrier than I've ever felt as a town fan. Today I just feel absolutely gutted. They have let down the fans but most importantly those poor souls in the back who will be redundant when the financial reality of relegation dawns on the owners. I have no hatred towards Kevin Nagle, I think his heart is in the right place and he will be hurting every bit as much as the rest of us but by jove is he naive. I don't know how we come back from league 1. We lost millions last year and now our TV money will cost us even more. We can't sign better players and the only thing that we can do to fill that gap is to sell our best players. A team which will now likely be built around the likes of Jackson, Kasumu, Pearson, Lees, Jones, Koroma and Ward. What a fucking stinger Why can’t we sign better players? FFP |
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 10, 2024 14:57:37 GMT 1
Why can’t we sign better players? FFP I spose “better” is subjective, we might not be able to pay them more in wages, but surely it’s not beyond hope that we can find more suitable players and mold a successful team? |
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 10, 2024 14:59:44 GMT 1
I spose “better” is subjective, we might not be able to pay them more in wages, but surely it’s not beyond hope that we can find more suitable players and mold a successful team? If we couldn't do it in the summer with Championship TV money there is no chance we can do it in league 1 with a massive reduction in season tickets sold, less commercial revenue and less TV money. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 10, 2024 15:03:39 GMT 1
FFP wasn't the reason we didn't spend in the summer.
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 10, 2024 15:04:21 GMT 1
I spose “better” is subjective, we might not be able to pay them more in wages, but surely it’s not beyond hope that we can find more suitable players and mold a successful team? If we couldn't do it in the summer with Championship TV money there is no chance we can do it in league 1 with a massive reduction in season tickets sold, less commercial revenue and less TV money. We had Uncle Neil only wanting to hire certain players in summer allegedly, we “seemed” to do better in January. Sporting teams are businesses, things need to change to get us on the right track. Some players work under certain managers and at certain clubs and some don’t. We’re no different to anyone else, but we do have a new and seemingly highly motivated/engaged owner so surely not all is doom and gloom longer term? |
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Post by Arbie 1976. on Apr 10, 2024 15:06:49 GMT 1
I think the club should take a look at the walking football players at the foundation.
Great passing from ex good players, movements a bit to be desired but still better standard than our 1st team. Maybe a friendly with them to pass on some heart, commitment,attitude and skill. Lol. UTT.
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Post by atowninessex on Apr 10, 2024 15:08:11 GMT 1
Like a lot of people on here, was totally pissed off and turned the game off with 4/5 mins to go ( couldn't make it last night but watched on the red button) ,first half did well thought spencer was outstanding and koroma got his finger out and scored but second half how crap were we
nicholls never looked like saving the pen not sure he even tried to put him off
helik must be going looked uninterested i thought
wiles appears not to be able to tackle. shoot , pass or dribble
thomas great surging run first half then a pass to their keeper , set plays getting worse ( apart from one against millwall)
and he blames everyone else when he passes 10 yards to the opposition ( needs to change his boots and hairstyle
and remember where he came from)
burgzog great near the area with back to goal- very strong otherwise greedy and no vision
koroma awful apart from the goal
matos and kasumu bookings waiting to happen am sure the oppo know that
jackson getting worse by the week not handling the pressure well
pearson - wears heart on his sleave not the most talented but you know what you will get
spencer- one shining light at the moment - but for how long?
jones believes his own hype - ward is ward, heally and bojan not sure yet could be great in league one
on to bristol but not hopeful then 2 massive home games
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Post by rocky on Apr 10, 2024 15:53:27 GMT 1
Watching these last 2 games has made me give up hope that there'll be another escape this season. Besides the obvious lack of quality, there was a lack of heart last night and no sign they were busting a gut to reverse the alarming (but oh so predictable) slump in the 2nd half. Add in the fact that everything that could go wrong (on and off the pitch) is doing so, then it's become obvious now that it will only end one way.
Was anyone really surprised when they scored their 2nd and 3rd (thankfully I'd pissed off before the 4th!). It seemed that all the play was at the other end and this is from a team supposedly fighting for their lives last night. Little evidence of that for me last night and that was the most important thing walking back to the car.
Oh and what is it with Town dropping points from winning positions. 5 in the last 2 away games alone and a staggering TWENTY FIVE all season.
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Post by Jimuano on Apr 10, 2024 16:02:58 GMT 1
A deserved lead at half time, mostly scrappy but actual genuine passing and progression up the pitch and chances being created. (How bad was Jackson though in this half?!)
2nd half, Preston stepped it up a bit but we were still in control and relatively untroubled.
Then - with time to clear/ pass back to Nicholls/ Row Z it - Matos did a massive brain fart, miscontrolled and gave away the penalty. It was soft but was a penalty.
We battled, but with less heart, and looked deflated after this point, back to the familiar can't pass 5 yards. Conceded a second and with our confidence as fragile as it is, it was only going to go one way after that. An agonising, frustrating watch.
Lots of work to do:
a) before Saturday
b) at season end, where - regardless of the league we're in - we need a massive clear out and immaculate recruitment.
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Post by royrace on Apr 10, 2024 16:23:55 GMT 1
A deserved lead at half time, mostly scrappy but actual genuine passing and progression up the pitch and chances being created. (How bad was Jackson though in this half?!) 2nd half, Preston stepped it up a bit but we were still in control and relatively untroubled. Then - with time to clear/ pass back to Nicholls/ Row Z it - Matos did a massive brain fart, miscontrolled and gave away the penalty. It was soft but was a penalty. We battled, but with less heart, and looked deflated after this point, back to the familiar can't pass 5 yards. Conceded a second and with our confidence as fragile as it is, it was only going to go one way after that. An agonising, frustrating watch. Lots of work to do: a) before Saturday b) at season end, where - regardless of the league we're in - we need a massive clear out and immaculate recruitment. I thought first half we looked good all things considered, you forget all that due the appalling second half but it does suggest they're completely devoid of confidence. Took a master motivator last season to sort them out. Wasn't a pen imo, the type of contact meant it wasn't a foul, I'd like get an expert opinion on it but of course nobody cares, it's only town. Probably not even been discussed. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2024 16:36:26 GMT 1
If we look like a competitive side in League 1 and I get to see some football that makes me want to sing and gets me out of my seat then I would settle for that. So many seasons we have survived by the skin of our teeth and it really gets me down now. I want to be entertained and if there is more chance of that in League 1 then I'll not cry if we go down.
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 10, 2024 17:03:20 GMT 1
Lets face it, we are down. I thought at half timer, PNE will not be that bad again as in the first half and also we are so light in a tackle we always seem too weak apart from Hogg god know what they do in the gym. Stay up!! go down!! what ever there is a massive rebuilding job to do at this club and personally i think we are heading for the wilderness again and then some of the moaners really will have something to moan about.
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Post by mrsoft on Apr 10, 2024 17:42:58 GMT 1
Couple of things just to quickly mention. Watched it on the box, kudos to the Town fans, loud and proud all first half. Brilliant effort and made me proud.
Secondly, that lad who came on for them, looked like Biffa Bacon, scored the hat trick. Superb finishing, he cold bloodedly nailed every chance that came his way. I can't remember the last time we had a striker like that. And I can't remember the last time we had a midfielder / winger who could squirt flat balls into the 6 yard box for them to run on to and tuck away. As opposed to showbiz 50 yard whipped-in crosses from Sorba which briefly produced Helik goals, but now - nothing.
God, but we're poor.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 10, 2024 17:47:33 GMT 1
Its taken me this long to read all the comments after going to Preston last night. I actually have no words to describe how I'm feeling - but an offer to refund all the fans that travelled to the game last night would be a good starting point. I appreciate we need points and some might applaud bringing on more attacking players BUT Its half-time and we are winning 1-0. We know we are shit and that PNE cant be as bad in the 2nd half. Why not pack the midfield and defence and try to hold on to what you have? I'm not sure taking off the whole midfield and playing 5 up front is a great idea. It was dumb |
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Post by goodbet on Apr 10, 2024 19:57:02 GMT 1
Who was the fool who said we had the best January window ever? No idea  |
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Post by goodbet on Apr 10, 2024 20:17:31 GMT 1
A deserved lead at half time, mostly scrappy but actual genuine passing and progression up the pitch and chances being created. (How bad was Jackson though in this half?!) 2nd half, Preston stepped it up a bit but we were still in control and relatively untroubled. Then - with time to clear/ pass back to Nicholls/ Row Z it - Matos did a massive brain fart, miscontrolled and gave away the penalty. It was soft but was a penalty. We battled, but with less heart, and looked deflated after this point, back to the familiar can't pass 5 yards. Conceded a second and with our confidence as fragile as it is, it was only going to go one way after that. An agonising, frustrating watch. Lots of work to do: a) before Saturday b) at season end, where - regardless of the league we're in - we need a massive clear out and immaculate recruitment. When Preston stepped up, we did nothing it took too long to make any changes and the changes we did make did not make us any better. We were dead in the second half, are we not fit enough, do we need to use Warnock's tactics and to just sit back and hold off the opposition for the first half and just have a go in the second. It seems that going ahead early is of no benefit to us at all. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Apr 10, 2024 20:38:56 GMT 1
Lets face it, we are down. We're not. We're really not. Before kick off(s) tonight the best & fairest bookmaker (IMHO) BET365 had us odds against on relegation. Implies much less than 50% chance. A lot of water to flow before any Fat Lady warms up her vocal cords. |
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Post by bogart on Apr 10, 2024 21:10:59 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights of the Real Madrid MC game. Some bloody good strikes there. Unlike our mob they knew where the net was!
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 11, 2024 10:08:38 GMT 1
The players are shit and the manager is clueless. A bad combination when we’re at the bottom of the league. Hopefully they all do one at the end of the season. If we stay up we need a total rebuild. Wagner style. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 11, 2024 13:12:16 GMT 1
The players are shit and the manager is clueless. A bad combination when we’re at the bottom of the league. Hopefully they all do one at the end of the season. If we stay up we need a total rebuild. Wagner style. We are most likely to get Gangnam Style. |
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Post by King Neil on Apr 11, 2024 13:22:35 GMT 1
Lets face it, we are down. We're not. We're really not. Before kick off(s) tonight the best & fairest bookmaker (IMHO) BET365 had us odds against on relegation. Implies much less than 50% chance. A lot of water to flow before any Fat Lady warms up her vocal cords. She's on the last chorus I think One of my exes loved to sing,,but it was definitely over before she started |
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