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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 13, 2024 23:50:24 GMT 1
Our fate is still in our own hands. Our Championship status is ours to lose or pull off the Great Escape part...fuck knows. Oh for a season of mid table mediocrity. It might well be but there is absolutely no room for maneuvere now. Even if we win both the home games we could still go down. There's no real logic to the notion that we'll stay up, we can't win games let alone 3 back to back. |
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Post by willo on Apr 14, 2024 0:21:16 GMT 1
Our fate is still in our own hands. Our Championship status is ours to lose or pull off the Great Escape part...fuck knows. Oh for a season of mid table mediocrity. I must be crazy but I still think we can do it. I thought we had to win last week v Millwall and we did. I expected to lose v PNE and we duly did, although I didn’t expect that 2nd half collapse. I thought a draw was likely the best we’d get at Ashton Gate. I have us down to win the next 2 and then it’s Ipswich which I’m not making a call on until I know if they’re up before we play them. What I hadn’t anticipated was Brum beating Cov, Plymouth beating Leicester on Friday and one or two other results. We have to turn up for the Swansea game believing we can get the players over the line, 3 Cup Finals to come and the players have to show they want it enough and have the belief they can do it. If they do, we will stay with them. If they don’t, fans won’t be forgiving come the end. Starting to tire mentally of all these “Great Escapes” though. UTT |
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Post by trailingleg on Apr 14, 2024 6:41:13 GMT 1
Our fate is still in our own hands. Our Championship status is ours to lose or pull off the Great Escape part...fuck knows. Oh for a season of mid table mediocrity. Maybe we’ll get one next season in League One. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Apr 14, 2024 7:30:31 GMT 1
We’re fucked
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Post by sonny on Apr 14, 2024 8:07:07 GMT 1
The shortcomings that have produced relentless misery this season are not going to disappear just because we have dropped a division. Very few of the players are out of contract. According to Town tradition, any additions will be journeymen, injury-prone, or young loan players conditioned by U21 football where mistakes aren't crucial and results are meaningless.
We have five full-backs. Only Spencer looks to have any quality that would stand out in League 1. Turton, Jackson and Headley will slot right in to League 1. Ditto Ruffels if we continue to offer sympathy contracts.
Central defence - Pearson will still find touch with his passing. Balker won't play 20 games. Helik will go.
Midfield - Wiles will still be two paced (i.e, very slow and stopped), Kasumu will still be incapable of anything other than tackling. Rudoni (if he stays) will still manage one shot per match and scuff 90% of them.
Forwards - Thomas will still threaten but rarely punish opponents and probably sulk until he gets his move to Birmingham/Millwall etc. Koroma, Healey and Radulovic will frighten nobody. The player who used to be Pat Jones will alternate between bench and the treatment table, where he will invariably find Ward's towel.
If by some miracle we stay up, all the above still applies.
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Post by detox on Apr 14, 2024 8:09:16 GMT 1
Swansea are going to frustrate the hell out of us with their slow possession football. They'd 78% possession v Rotherham to win 1-0.
Town fans will be looking for us to get stuck into them ,we can't afford to let them kill the atmosphere and the game.
For us it's the last chance saloon, anything other than a win and we're done.
We need to score early,unsetle them then score another 2 or 3, early as possible, no faffing about, nobody leaving anything on the pitch..do or die.
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 14, 2024 8:09:19 GMT 1
The shortcomings that have produced relentless misery this season are not going to disappear just because we have dropped a division. Very few of the players are out of contract. According to Town tradition, any additions will be journeymen, injury-prone, or young loan players conditioned by U21 football where mistakes aren't crucial and results are meaningless. We have five full-backs. Only Spencer looks to have any quality that would stand out in League 1. Turton, Jackson and Headley will slot right in to League 1. Ditto Ruffels if we continue to offer sympathy contracts. Central defence - Pearson will still find touch with his passing. Balker won't play 20 games. Helik will go. Midfield - Wiles will still be two paced (i.e, very slow and stopped), Kasumu will still be incapable of anything other than tackling. Rudoni (if he stays) will still manage one shot per match and scuff 90% of them. Forwards - Thomas will still threaten but rarely punish opponents and probably sulk until he gets his move to Birmingham/Millwall etc. Koroma, Healey and Radulovic will frighten nobody. The player who used to be Pat Jones will alternate between bench and the treatment table, where he will invariably find Ward's towel. If by some miracle we stay up, all the above still applies. Well, at least your optimistic 😂 |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 14, 2024 8:13:30 GMT 1
Least KN and DC got to wind up Leeds fans on twitter hey, as the old saying goes, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Another embarrassing moment to add to the many others this season on that toxic platform.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 14, 2024 8:15:02 GMT 1
The shortcomings that have produced relentless misery this season are not going to disappear just because we have dropped a division. Very few of the players are out of contract. According to Town tradition, any additions will be journeymen, injury-prone, or young loan players conditioned by U21 football where mistakes aren't crucial and results are meaningless. We have five full-backs. Only Spencer looks to have any quality that would stand out in League 1. Turton, Jackson and Headley will slot right in to League 1. Ditto Ruffels if we continue to offer sympathy contracts. Central defence - Pearson will still find touch with his passing. Balker won't play 20 games. Helik will go. Midfield - Wiles will still be two paced (i.e, very slow and stopped), Kasumu will still be incapable of anything other than tackling. Rudoni (if he stays) will still manage one shot per match and scuff 90% of them. Forwards - Thomas will still threaten but rarely punish opponents and probably sulk until he gets his move to Birmingham/Millwall etc. Koroma, Healey and Radulovic will frighten nobody. The player who used to be Pat Jones will alternate between bench and the treatment table, where he will invariably find Ward's towel. If by some miracle we stay up, all the above still applies. Well, at least your optimistic 😂 He isn't wrong though, is he. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 14, 2024 8:16:43 GMT 1
Well, at least your optimistic 😂 He isn't wrong though, is he. Really enjoyed the sorba bit, so true 😂. Then their fans can realise he is only good for set pieces too. |
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 14, 2024 8:17:02 GMT 1
Well, at least your optimistic 😂 He isn't wrong though, is he. Nope.. The whole post is very Huddersfield Town of recent. |
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 14, 2024 8:21:15 GMT 1
This notion that we will struggle in league one is nonsense imo. It's a poor division with a lot of poor teams. Recent history indicates that a lot of clubs do bounce back and yoyo. We certainly won't be double dropping or be in any danger of doing so. Let's be honest even with a poor Championship squad we should be nowhere near relegation if it weren't for horrific decisions on the management front. We've lost 27 points from winning positions. That's not withstanding the non pen at Rotherham, utter joke today and shed loads of injuries throughout the season. We should have been safe in February. I’ll just remind you that a large percentage of folk on here thought we’d rip this league apart with the chuckle bros. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 14, 2024 8:22:45 GMT 1
This notion that we will struggle in league one is nonsense imo. It's a poor division with a lot of poor teams. Recent history indicates that a lot of clubs do bounce back and yoyo. We certainly won't be double dropping or be in any danger of doing so. Let's be honest even with a poor Championship squad we should be nowhere near relegation if it weren't for horrific decisions on the management front. We've lost 27 points from winning positions. That's not withstanding the non pen at Rotherham, utter joke today and shed loads of injuries throughout the season. We should have been safe in February. I’ll just remind you that a large percentage of folk on here thought we’d rip this league apart with the chuckle bros. And that the January transfer window was one of the best ever. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 14, 2024 8:24:31 GMT 1
I’ll just remind you that a large percentage of folk on here thought we’d rip this league apart with the chuckle bros. And that the January transfer window was one of the best ever. You mean paying a million quid for a lad who couldn’t get in at mid table Watford and who we could have had for free in the summer had we backed Warnock wasn’t good business? |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 14, 2024 8:35:52 GMT 1
I think with the way the others are fighting and getting massive wins we're gone Brum still play Rotherham as well and after a three nil yesterday and with massive motivation they'll win that one Need to win up realistically. 7 points may do it (assuming that includes a win over Brum). Just can't see that happening The penalty decision - which is horrific - will see us down. I think we'll end the season down but within two points of safety  |
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Post by jim100 on Apr 14, 2024 8:53:00 GMT 1
The shortcomings that have produced relentless misery this season are not going to disappear just because we have dropped a division. Very few of the players are out of contract. According to Town tradition, any additions will be journeymen, injury-prone, or young loan players conditioned by U21 football where mistakes aren't crucial and results are meaningless. We have five full-backs. Only Spencer looks to have any quality that would stand out in League 1. Turton, Jackson and Headley will slot right in to League 1. Ditto Ruffels if we continue to offer sympathy contracts. Central defence - Pearson will still find touch with his passing. Balker won't play 20 games. Helik will go. Midfield - Wiles will still be two paced (i.e, very slow and stopped), Kasumu will still be incapable of anything other than tackling. Rudoni (if he stays) will still manage one shot per match and scuff 90% of them. Forwards - Thomas will still threaten but rarely punish opponents and probably sulk until he gets his move to Birmingham/Millwall etc. Koroma, Healey and Radulovic will frighten nobody. The player who used to be Pat Jones will alternate between bench and the treatment table, where he will invariably find Ward's towel. If by some miracle we stay up, all the above still applies. This made me chuckle 😃 |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 14, 2024 9:14:01 GMT 1
I’ve not given up yet. If any other relegation threatened team had Swansea at home i’d be absolutely convinced they would win.
It’s the other teams’ fixtures that worry me.
If we could take it to the Birmingham game at least we’ll see the stadium full for what might be the last time for a long time.
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Post by scutcher on Apr 14, 2024 9:44:46 GMT 1
Don't forget we have a three year plan currently running! LOL.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Apr 14, 2024 9:48:39 GMT 1
I know there is no guarantee of challenging but what would you prefer next season A) A relegation battle in the championship B) A title challenge in league one Feels to me like the club needs relegation to reset and start again. Each season we dodge it just delays it until the next. Is this the same kind of reset as when we came down from the Premier League that was supposedly going to see us be competitive and see us win more games ? League 1 will be a lot tougher than many are imagining. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Apr 14, 2024 9:53:33 GMT 1
The shortcomings that have produced relentless misery this season are not going to disappear just because we have dropped a division. Very few of the players are out of contract. According to Town tradition, any additions will be journeymen, injury-prone, or young loan players conditioned by U21 football where mistakes aren't crucial and results are meaningless. We have five full-backs. Only Spencer looks to have any quality that would stand out in League 1. Turton, Jackson and Headley will slot right in to League 1. Ditto Ruffels if we continue to offer sympathy contracts. Central defence - Pearson will still find touch with his passing. Balker won't play 20 games. Helik will go. Midfield - Wiles will still be two paced (i.e, very slow and stopped), Kasumu will still be incapable of anything other than tackling. Rudoni (if he stays) will still manage one shot per match and scuff 90% of them. Forwards - Thomas will still threaten but rarely punish opponents and probably sulk until he gets his move to Birmingham/Millwall etc. Koroma, Healey and Radulovic will frighten nobody. The player who used to be Pat Jones will alternate between bench and the treatment table, where he will invariably find Ward's towel. If by some miracle we stay up, all the above still applies. Everything in that is absolutely spot on apart from Thomas will get a move back to the Championship imo. We’re stuck with the majority of this squad, and it isn’t one that will frighten any of the better sides in League 1. Many of our squad will probably still be playing at a level above where they should be. |
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Post by ambryboy on Apr 14, 2024 10:06:28 GMT 1
It is going to be tough, but we need to hold onto a core of players that will be good for the league below. Healy Radulovic Rudoni Wiles Koroma Pearson Turton Spencer Balker Nicholls Of the rest, some need to be offloaded, and others I expect will be sold. Sorry but Wiles can f**k off for me. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 14, 2024 10:08:17 GMT 1
The shortcomings that have produced relentless misery this season are not going to disappear just because we have dropped a division. Very few of the players are out of contract. According to Town tradition, any additions will be journeymen, injury-prone, or young loan players conditioned by U21 football where mistakes aren't crucial and results are meaningless. We have five full-backs. Only Spencer looks to have any quality that would stand out in League 1. Turton, Jackson and Headley will slot right in to League 1. Ditto Ruffels if we continue to offer sympathy contracts. Central defence - Pearson will still find touch with his passing. Balker won't play 20 games. Helik will go. Midfield - Wiles will still be two paced (i.e, very slow and stopped), Kasumu will still be incapable of anything other than tackling. Rudoni (if he stays) will still manage one shot per match and scuff 90% of them. Forwards - Thomas will still threaten but rarely punish opponents and probably sulk until he gets his move to Birmingham/Millwall etc. Koroma, Healey and Radulovic will frighten nobody. The player who used to be Pat Jones will alternate between bench and the treatment table, where he will invariably find Ward's towel. If by some miracle we stay up, all the above still applies. Everything in that is absolutely spot on apart from Thomas will get a move back to the Championship imo. We’re stuck with the majority of this squad, and it isn’t one that will frighten any of the better sides in League 1. Many of our squad will probably still be playing at a level above where they should be. There aren't any 'better sides' in League One, just out of interest which clubs are you talking about? Newly promoted Stockport? Wrexham? Lincoln City? That division is a wasteland mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2024 10:13:48 GMT 1
Would happily line up with..
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Spencer --- Pearson -- Lees --- Headley
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New RW ------- New CM -- New CM ----- Koroma
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Nicholls I'd be happy to see leave, poor this season
Helik will leave
Sorba will leave
Kasumu is poor and limited
Hogg we need to move on from, gettnig worse season by season
Rudoni poor, not the answer, played 80 games for us now
Wiles is absymal, had enough opportunity, get rid
Bojan - too soft, will get smashed around in lge 1
Healey - Clogger, happy to see him go
Zorg - Won't stay in lge 1
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Jackson, Jones - Please get rid, they're not the answer and aren't acceptable backup to championship/league 1 sides.
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Said it before and I'll say it again, should've bought Macauly Langstaff in Summer; scored 42 in 45 in the conference, scored 24 in 38 games in league 2.
I'll say it again, I'd have Keilor Dunn from Mansfield before I'd have Wiles or probably even Rudoni, 21 goals from CM this season. Pearler of a shot hit the bar yesterday as they run out 4-1 winners and all but seal promotion to league 1 with us.
Gonna be a big, big reset in summer in League 1. A new manager yet again. Needs someone with League 1 promotion experience or a solid hand like Rowett
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Post by rickrast on Apr 14, 2024 10:32:49 GMT 1
I know there is no guarantee of challenging but what would you prefer next season A) A relegation battle in the championship B) A title challenge in league one Feels to me like the club needs relegation to reset and start again. Each season we dodge it just delays it until the next. C) A relegation battle in League One? I suppose it's a bit too late now to gamble on a "new manager bounce"! |
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Post by sabailand on Apr 14, 2024 10:35:53 GMT 1
Could all be very different again come 5PM next Saturday. Too mnay bottlers on here, ok we might yet go down but we might not, towels being thrown in and picked up again all season long. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Apr 14, 2024 10:41:30 GMT 1
Everything in that is absolutely spot on apart from Thomas will get a move back to the Championship imo. We’re stuck with the majority of this squad, and it isn’t one that will frighten any of the better sides in League 1. Many of our squad will probably still be playing at a level above where they should be. There aren't any 'better sides' in League One, just out of interest which clubs are you talking about? Newly promoted Stockport? Wrexham? Lincoln City? That division is a wasteland mate. Took Sunderland and Wednesday 2/3 years, Ipswich 5 to get out of it spending a tonne of money in the process. Biggest problem is we’ll be in need of a clear out but the vast majority of the squad are still under contract and we’ve at best 3 or 4 saleable assets. Many of the ones that are left won’t in my opinion shine in League 1. Hope I’m wrong but I just don’t see a squad with its core consisting of the likes of Ward, Headley, Jackson, Kasumu, Wiles, Ruffles, Turton winning promotion back. We’ve a collection of poor / injury prone players who are used to loosing, the better ones we’ve got will be after moves. We’ve very little scope for a reset without being prepared to pay the dross off or let them sit in the B Team. There’ll be a fair few teams who will have teams well prepared for League 1 and squads up for a fight, something I just don’t see in a lot of our squad many of the younger ones have spent years having smoke blown up their arses and have produced little to nothing of note. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 14, 2024 10:42:54 GMT 1
Relegation reset 😂
Biggest football misnomer I’ve ever heard
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 14, 2024 10:53:48 GMT 1
Relegation reset 😂 Biggest football misnomer I’ve ever heard Does always make me chuckle people seeing it as a good thing. staff losing jobs, level of football dropping (feels unimaginable with how bad it is currently) stadium half full, playing away at port vale and Northampton (nothing against those clubs by the way just lazy examples) rather than those relegated from the premier league. There’s nothing positive about relegation. |
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Post by mallyb on Apr 14, 2024 11:11:42 GMT 1
And that the January transfer window was one of the best ever. You mean paying a million quid for a lad who couldn’t get in at mid table Watford and who we could have had for free in the summer had we backed Warnock wasn’t good business? Not true that he was free in summer, the fee was the repayment of his signing on fee at Watford. Maybe we couldn’t afford him because of the deals for Ward ruffels and Koroma because Wanock insisted on having them. Not a great negotiating position. Danny Ward is the best paid player at the club. Thanks Neil. |
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 14, 2024 11:22:04 GMT 1
It’s a long time since I’ve left a ground as gutted as yesterday. I’m still fuming now. However, we need to quickly get over it and focus on the next game. Win that and there’s still a chance. From our last four games, a lot of us said two home wins and a point away could do it. Well, yesterday we got that point (two dropped or robbed though it may have been). It’s still in our hands.
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