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Post by Macduff on May 8, 2024 23:02:20 GMT 1
I like Kevin and Dave, but will reserve judgement as I'm not convinced Cartwright has the nous or connections to get a decent squad together for next season. If AB stays I trust he will be allowed to be influential in recruitment and retainment, but if he goes it sounds like a plan might be in place to replace him, but who knows who that might be.
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Post by andyboothscat on May 9, 2024 8:03:05 GMT 1
I’m starting to get worried about KN.
Whilst there does seem to be an acknowledgement of the mistakes that he has made, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he’s learning from those mistakes. That is what is bothering me.
We’ve been relegated in his first year. Yet for the first week since then, in terms of JE, MC and AB, he appears to have spent his time getting the band back together.
Problem being that their last album was absolutely shocking and no one wanted to hear it.
These next two months and his actions within will define his tenure with the club, if that hasn’t already happened.
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Post by boooothy on May 9, 2024 8:15:43 GMT 1
Thought it was a great interview and somehow relegation doesn't seem like such a bad thing anymore. We have all talked about a reset and his words make me think just that. I would kill to see a winning team next season and that return to a feel good feeling that has been missing for so many years. Agreed. I’m rejuvenated after watching that interview. Hard to think that any owner is as forthright with the fans as Kevin is. I hope he receives the support from everyone that he deserves. I’m gutted to be in division 3 but i’m actually more optimistic about the future than i was under Phil/Dean. It felt inevitable then that relegation would happen eventually and i’d have had no confidence about coming back. Relegation should not have happened this time but i think it’s not the disaster it would have been if the fans stay with us and i think they will now season tickets are cheap if we win a few games. |
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Post by desertstorm on May 9, 2024 8:57:54 GMT 1
I’m starting to get worried about KN. Whilst there does seem to be an acknowledgement of the mistakes that he has made, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he’s learning from those mistakes. That is what is bothering me. We’ve been relegated in his first year. Yet for the first week since then, in terms of JE, MC and AB, he appears to have spent his time getting the band back together. Problem being that their last album was absolutely shocking and no one wanted to hear it. These next two months and his actions within will define his tenure with the club, if that hasn’t already happened. I think KN is being sensible with his approach and adopting methods that have been successful for him in his professional career. For the avoidance of doubt I’m under no uncertain terms that both JE and MC are not the right team to oversee the day-to-day running of the club. I think over time this will become evident to KN. I think he’s clearly trying to give them the opportunity to show they are capable of taking learnings and learning from them. As I said a few months ago there is significant investment going into the stadium, with the pitch also being relayed. There will be significant investment in the first team and we can expect to see high end players coming in. KN is a good man with pure intentions. |
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Post by irverino on May 9, 2024 9:44:57 GMT 1
Did he say he was flying back to US today?......Or it could be next Thursday?
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 9, 2024 9:54:20 GMT 1
Sounds like plenty of work is underway at the training ground which is good to hear. Hopefully the stadium ownership is progressing, but we've heard that all before under previous owners, so I won't be holding my breath on that one. Glad he's told JE to let the staff know that their jobs are safe. Relegation usually means dozens of jobs are lost at football clubs. Disappointing to hear André hasn't come back to him with an answer yet. Decent diary Justasmithers 👌 |
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Post by boooothy on May 9, 2024 9:56:07 GMT 1
Kevin and Dave have a look of Beavis and Butthead when they do these diaries.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 9, 2024 9:57:17 GMT 1
Has Kev fallen out with radio Leeds?
Hope so, it's a poor station that swathes of Huddersfield don't get signal since they changed the DAB frequency.
Bin them off, Kev.
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Post by richhtfc on May 9, 2024 10:02:39 GMT 1
I’m starting to get worried about KN. Whilst there does seem to be an acknowledgement of the mistakes that he has made, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he’s learning from those mistakes. That is what is bothering me. We’ve been relegated in his first year. Yet for the first week since then, in terms of JE, MC and AB, he appears to have spent his time getting the band back together. Problem being that their last album was absolutely shocking and no one wanted to hear it. These next two months and his actions within will define his tenure with the club, if that hasn’t already happened. I think KN is being sensible with his approach and adopting methods that have been successful for him in his professional career. For the avoidance of doubt I’m under no uncertain terms that both JE and MC are not the right team to oversee the day-to-day running of the club. I think over time this will become evident to KN. I think he’s clearly trying to give them the opportunity to show they are capable of taking learnings and learning from them. As I said a few months ago there is significant investment going into the stadium, with the pitch also being relayed. There will be significant investment in the first team and we can expect to see high end players coming in. KN is a good man with pure intentions. Can you elaborate on why you’re so against Cartwright and Edwards? |
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Post by twyford on May 9, 2024 10:40:58 GMT 1
Sorry to be negative but... Whilst it's appreciated that Kevin communicates with us and I like the bloke, it just feels to me that there's not much substance to the diary; limited specifics: We don't know how he's loaning/gifting the club Who the manager is (granted he can't do much about that before this diary) No idea what our transfer budget isNo clear update on where we are with the academy. What academy level are we even aiming for? We are investing behind the scenes, but in what? Better analytics (like Brentford and Brighton)? The best in class heads of ages in the academy? How are the results going to change with the academy under KN's chairmanship? What's the plan? Just having an academy didn't work for us before. Why are we investing in Canalside but not buying it? Would that affect our budget in league one and so we want to hold off the process? I don't think we got many answers. I don't think it's realistic to expect this to be disclosed. Even an indication that 'any monies raised from player sales will be reinvested in the squad' or similar would weaken the club's hand in future negotiations - assuming that we do intend to buy players contracted to other clubs and not just make free transfer signings. |
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Post by crux on May 9, 2024 10:52:19 GMT 1
I’m starting to get worried about KN. Whilst there does seem to be an acknowledgement of the mistakes that he has made, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he’s learning from those mistakes. That is what is bothering me. We’ve been relegated in his first year. Yet for the first week since then, in terms of JE, MC and AB, he appears to have spent his time getting the band back together. Problem being that their last album was absolutely shocking and no one wanted to hear it. These next two months and his actions within will define his tenure with the club, if that hasn’t already happened. I think KN is being sensible with his approach and adopting methods that have been successful for him in his professional career. For the avoidance of doubt I’m under no uncertain terms that both JE and MC are not the right team to oversee the day-to-day running of the club. I think over time this will become evident to KN. I think he’s clearly trying to give them the opportunity to show they are capable of taking learnings and learning from them. As I said a few months ago there is significant investment going into the stadium, with the pitch also being relayed. There will be significant investment in the first team and we can expect to see high end players coming in. KN is a good man with pure intentions. Can you say why you think JE isn't the right person as CEO? I get why MC is getting flak for his decisions last seasons, especially the appointment of DM and the time taken to remove him. However, there are lots of posts on here that suggest that both MC and JE should be sacked, but no-one ever gives any reasons for including JE. If a 'normal' business underperforms, then the CEO would come under scrutiny. But with a football club, as long as the finances aren't more of a basket case than the rest of the league, the Director of Football and Manager/Head Coach usually carry the can. |
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Post by runner76 on May 9, 2024 10:54:48 GMT 1
I think KN is being sensible with his approach and adopting methods that have been successful for him in his professional career. For the avoidance of doubt I’m under no uncertain terms that both JE and MC are not the right team to oversee the day-to-day running of the club. I think over time this will become evident to KN. I think he’s clearly trying to give them the opportunity to show they are capable of taking learnings and learning from them. As I said a few months ago there is significant investment going into the stadium, with the pitch also being relayed. There will be significant investment in the first team and we can expect to see high end players coming in. KN is a good man with pure intentions. Can you say why you think JE isn't the right person as CEO? I get why MC is getting flak for his decisions last seasons, especially the appointment of DM and the time taken to remove him. However, there are lots of posts on here that suggest that both MC and JE should be sacked, but no-one ever gives any reasons for including JE. If a 'normal' business underperforms, then the CEO would come under scrutiny. But with a football club, as long as the finances aren't more of a basket case than the rest of the league, the Director of Football and Manager/Head Coach usually carry the can. Surely someone on here must know / be related to an employee at the club? How is JE perceived? What is the culture like in the workplace etc? maybe someone actually knows |
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Post by SacTown on May 9, 2024 11:04:52 GMT 1
Can you say why you think JE isn't the right person as CEO? I get why MC is getting flak for his decisions last seasons, especially the appointment of DM and the time taken to remove him. However, there are lots of posts on here that suggest that both MC and JE should be sacked, but no-one ever gives any reasons for including JE. If a 'normal' business underperforms, then the CEO would come under scrutiny. But with a football club, as long as the finances aren't more of a basket case than the rest of the league, the Director of Football and Manager/Head Coach usually carry the can. Surely someone on here must know / be related to an employee at the club? How is JE perceived? What is the culture like in the workplace etc? maybe someone actually knows They think/pretend everything is hunky-dory, heads buried in the sand. Regarding MC, the last time he operated in british football, nobody (here) had heard of Gegenpressing. That's a good enough start to know modern football has bypassed him. |
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Post by dugnet on May 9, 2024 11:13:04 GMT 1
I have to admit to being a little underwhelmed (by the diary). That said I am coming round to the opinion that for all the words we have to let Mr Nagle and team get on with it these next few months. There is a relegation on his cv and I think that will sting. As such I hope the desire to recover will galvanise everyone at the club to be successful. We really need to see something better.
I do have a concern about how the funding of the club is structured. Hopefully the club isn't negatively impacted going forward. If something of quality is created then I suppose that becomes a less of a concern (in as much as it will attract new investors/buyers).
If next season isn't a significant improvement on the last then the Nagle era will be probably damaged beyond repair, but I am sure he knows that.
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Post by htafcokay on May 9, 2024 11:29:19 GMT 1
Surely someone on here must know / be related to an employee at the club? How is JE perceived? What is the culture like in the workplace etc? maybe someone actually knows They think/pretend everything is hunky-dory, heads buried in the sand. Regarding MC, the last time he operated in british football, nobody (here) had heard of Gegenpressing. That's a good enough start to know modern football has bypassed him.Mark Cartwright departed Stoke City in September 2019, not September 1999. |
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Post by Justasmithers on May 9, 2024 11:50:26 GMT 1
Did he say he was flying back to US today?......Or it could be next Thursday? En route as we speak |
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Post by Justasmithers on May 9, 2024 11:51:51 GMT 1
Has Kev fallen out with radio Leeds? Hope so, it's a poor station that swathes of Huddersfield don't get signal since they changed the DAB frequency. Bin them off, Kev. Not at all. Wasn’t a huge fan of their tweet regarding his availability, but it’s a business. Personally I’m a big fan of Oggy and the team that call our matches. |
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Post by Sio on May 9, 2024 11:58:33 GMT 1
I have to admit to being a little underwhelmed (by the diary). That said I am coming round to the opinion that for all the words we have to let Mr Nagle and team get on with it these next few months. There is a relegation on his cv and I think that will sting. As such I hope the desire to recover will galvanise everyone at the club to be successful. We really need to see something better. I do have a concern about how the funding of the club is structured. Hopefully the club isn't negatively impacted going forward. If something of quality is created then I suppose that becomes a less of a concern (in as much as it will attract new investors/buyers). If next season isn't a significant improvement on the last then the Nagle era will be probably damaged beyond repair, but I am sure he knows that. I think I'm about here too. I'm not convinced by Nagle and Co; despite his good intentions, I don't think he knows what he's doing, and these diaries do not convince me otherwise. However, he deserves a shot at it given his efforts to fund the club and attempts to communicate his plans. To quote another poster, I'm 'happy to wait and see' this season. |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on May 9, 2024 12:00:11 GMT 1
Kevin is a likeable chap but so far he's showing that he's no fucking idea about football.......That fact that he's let the AB go on for nearly two weeks since the Birmingham game compounds this.
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Post by iangreaves on May 9, 2024 12:02:09 GMT 1
Did he say he was flying back to US today?......Or it could be next Thursday? En route as we speak Without the courtesy of a call-back from Herr Breitenreiter? |
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Post by paderbornterrier on May 9, 2024 12:22:50 GMT 1
Without the courtesy of a call-back from Herr Breitenreiter? Hardly a culture change if someone needs convincing to stay on..... hes just got us relegated, hes shown very little impact. He should be on his hands and knees right now grovelling to keep his job.. Talk about repeating the warnock mistake, his heart wasn't in it really, not for more than the end of the season run in and now you have another guy who's heart isn't obviously 100% committed, how can you ask players to run through walls for you if the manager needs time to think about if he can be arsed managing them. I can understand a meeting and 24hrs to let you know, if family are involved to talk to them, but beyond that, get shut, he really isnt worth waiting for, from what we have seen. His record is better than his impact. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 9, 2024 12:34:34 GMT 1
Has Kev fallen out with radio Leeds? Hope so, it's a poor station that swathes of Huddersfield don't get signal since they changed the DAB frequency. Bin them off, Kev. Not at all. Wasn’t a huge fan of their tweet regarding his availability, but it’s a business. Personally I’m a big fan of Oggy and the team that call our matches. DTS said when they'd signed up to radio Leeds in their latest contract that the DAB issue would get resolved for the large chunks of Huddersfield that can't listen to the games, almost two years later and nothing has been done to boost the signal or negotiate to go back to the previous DAB signal that worked perfectly fine. |
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Post by ldotm on May 9, 2024 12:48:24 GMT 1
Kevin is a likeable chap but so far he's showing that he's no fucking idea about football.......That fact that he's let the AB go on for nearly two weeks since the Birmingham game compounds this. Or you have no idea about business and things aren’t as simple as you think? |
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Post by goodbet on May 9, 2024 12:53:08 GMT 1
Without the courtesy of a call-back from Herr Breitenreiter? Hardly a culture change if someone needs convincing to stay on..... hes just got us relegated, hes shown very little impact. He should be on his hands and knees right now grovelling to keep his job.. Talk about repeating the warnock mistake, his heart wasn't in it really, not for more than the end of the season run in and now you have another guy who's heart isn't obviously 100% committed, how can you ask players to run through walls for you if the manager needs time to think about if he can be arsed managing them. I can understand a meeting and 24hrs to let you know, if family are involved to talk to them, but beyond that, get shut, he really isnt worth waiting for, from what we have seen. His record is better than his impact. We have a big summer in front of us and a lot of work to do and we can't hang around waiting for someone trying to decide if he is up for the job or not. |
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Post by westislandterrier on May 9, 2024 13:03:50 GMT 1
Hardly a culture change if someone needs convincing to stay on..... hes just got us relegated, hes shown very little impact. He should be on his hands and knees right now grovelling to keep his job.. Talk about repeating the warnock mistake, his heart wasn't in it really, not for more than the end of the season run in and now you have another guy who's heart isn't obviously 100% committed, how can you ask players to run through walls for you if the manager needs time to think about if he can be arsed managing them. I can understand a meeting and 24hrs to let you know, if family are involved to talk to them, but beyond that, get shut, he really isnt worth waiting for, from what we have seen. His record is better than his impact. We have a big summer in front of us and a lot of work to do and we can't hang around waiting for someone trying to decide if he is up for the job or not. I think we will have clarity one way or the other by the start of play for the working week on Monday... If not then we start on the road to the drag - If Andre is to stay though, I certainly hope his family relocate to England then he can give the job 100% + and there can be no excuses whatsoever then ! |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on May 9, 2024 13:30:07 GMT 1
Kevin is a likeable chap but so far he's showing that he's no fucking idea about football.......That fact that he's let the AB go on for nearly two weeks since the Birmingham game compounds this. Or you have no idea about business and things aren’t as simple as you think? I was a shareholder and director in a business actually so yes I do. I’d have given AB until a day after the Ipswich game to make a decision because we were relegated the week before |
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Post by goodbet on May 9, 2024 13:34:05 GMT 1
We have a big summer in front of us and a lot of work to do and we can't hang around waiting for someone trying to decide if he is up for the job or not. I think we will have clarity one way or the other by the start of play for the working week on Monday... If not then we start on the road to the drag - If Andre is to stay though, I certainly hope his family relocate to England then he can give the job 100% + and there can be no excuses whatsoever then ! If he decides he is not up for the job we have wasted 2 weeks and have to start looking for a replacement. Just not a process we needed to go through. |
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Post by Sparrow on May 9, 2024 14:12:33 GMT 1
Sorry to be negative but... Whilst it's appreciated that Kevin communicates with us and I like the bloke, it just feels to me that there's not much substance to the diary; limited specifics: We don't know how he's loaning/gifting the club Who the manager is (granted he can't do much about that before this diary) No idea what our transfer budget is No clear update on where we are with the academy. What academy level are we even aiming for?We are investing behind the scenes, but in what? Better analytics (like Brentford and Brighton)? The best in class heads of ages in the academy? How are the results going to change with the academy under KN's chairmanship? What's the plan? Just having an academy didn't work for us before.Why are we investing in Canalside but not buying it? Would that affect our budget in league one and so we want to hold off the process? I don't think we got many answers. It's been stated publicly and discussed on here that the Academy will be Cat 3. Basically that means all the age groups from U9's. Everything hasn't been formally confirmed and approved by the EFL as yet. The club are expecting this to be Mid-Late May. But everything sounds positive and is pointing towards it all being approved. I would imagine the club will release more details once official confirmation is received. The started the trials over the Easter holiday. They need to sign 130+ kids by early August. Lot's of kids coming in for trials who have been released by other Academy, plus grassroots players. Historically the Academy has worked reasonably well. Lot's of players have been produced over the years that have played in our first team or that have gone on to other clubs and being successful. It's now the job of Jon Worthington and others to produce more players and better players over the coming years. Not easy, but with the right investment and management can be done. |
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Post by iangreaves on May 9, 2024 14:14:32 GMT 1
I think we will have clarity one way or the other by the start of play for the working week on Monday... If not then we start on the road to the drag - If Andre is to stay though, I certainly hope his family relocate to England then he can give the job 100% + and there can be no excuses whatsoever then ! If he decides he is not up for the job we have wasted 2 weeks and have to start looking for a replacement. Just not a process we needed to go through. Absolutely right. And do we then wait for the new manager to decide which players we keep and which we release and which he wants to sign? Or does Mark Cartwright decide for him? |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 9, 2024 14:17:00 GMT 1
I think we will have clarity one way or the other by the start of play for the working week on Monday... If not then we start on the road to the drag - If Andre is to stay though, I certainly hope his family relocate to England then he can give the job 100% + and there can be no excuses whatsoever then ! If he decides he is not up for the job we have wasted 2 weeks and have to start looking for a replacement. Just not a process we needed to go through. Nagle did say they had a contingency so I reckon they would be able to move reasonably quickly if AB said no. |
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