Alfie May

[dbterrier32]

Jul 1, 2024 15:33:06 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Jul 1, 2024 13:46:58 GMT 1 dbterrier32 said:

Going to do some proper bedwetting now. But if lost out on him it is fucking shocking by the club.

Shocking that we won't throw stupid money just beat other teams?
If anything, it's embarrassing from Birmingham and shows they are desperate.

His stats were great last season, but nobody knows if they would be replicated here.

As long as Cartwright has another lined up, I'm not that bothered.

As I said proper bed wetting. No rationale to it just pissed off missed out on him. He is a consistent goal scorer. We need to get promoted. Goals get you promoted

[TTCMatt]

Jul 1, 2024 15:53:44 GMT 1 Lovechops said:

Jul 1, 2024 15:48:29 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Surprised we haven’t got Alfie esp after Rudoni sale, would have thought we had some head room in wages and fee.

I can understand Birmingham wanting to get him and take away a tried and tested goal scorer from a rival.
Fans might night like to hear it but Alfie might of seen serious intent to get promoted and backed a winner by signing for Brum.

From what we’ve seen in last 12 months from the transfers under this senior team, we struggle to do much outside the world of Beswick Sports.

Tough one

I’ve heard he’s getting about 10k a week at Brum which is ridiculous for L1

and the rest...

[htafcdreams]

Jul 1, 2024 15:53:44 GMT 1 Lovechops said:

Jul 1, 2024 15:48:29 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Surprised we haven’t got Alfie esp after Rudoni sale, would have thought we had some head room in wages and fee.

I can understand Birmingham wanting to get him and take away a tried and tested goal scorer from a rival.
Fans might night like to hear it but Alfie might of seen serious intent to get promoted and backed a winner by signing for Brum.

From what we’ve seen in last 12 months from the transfers under this senior team, we struggle to do much outside the world of Beswick Sports.

Tough one

I’ve heard he’s getting about 10k a week at Brum which is ridiculous for L1

Bet Wrexham are paying over that for Mullen.

If Brum bounce straight back up I suppose it’ll be considered as no brainier vs cost of staying in L1.

Suppose it’s a balance of intent and cost of failure

[rockwall]

Jul 1, 2024 16:22:15 GMT 1 dbterrier32 said:

Jul 1, 2024 15:33:06 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Shocking that we won't throw stupid money just beat other teams?
If anything, it's embarrassing from Birmingham and shows they are desperate.

His stats were great last season, but nobody knows if they would be replicated here.

As long as Cartwright has another lined up, I'm not that bothered.

As I said proper bed wetting. No rationale to it just pissed off missed out on him. He is a consistent goal scorer. We need to get promoted. Goals get you promoted

It's disappointing. But who is to say he would score goals here?
Who is to say of we bring someone else in they won't score more than what May would?
Who knows, Healey or Bojan could get 20+ this season.

I'm glad the club are identifying the right types of player, but also pleased we aren't going to just throw stupid money at it.

[htafcdreams]

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

[Tim Nice But Dim]

It makes you wonder are we really serious about bouncing straight back to the Championship. Make no mistake about it, this is a very tough league to get out off unless you buy some good players and like the old saying goes, "you have to speculate to accumulate". Jolly Gosh.

[waggers]

I've slated Cartright etc but this genuinely might have been out of their control. Charlton will have touted this lad around all the bigger League 1 clubs, we likely agreed terms with him but Charlton just leveraged our bid to get more out of Birmingham.

Then he's chosen Birmingham over us which isn't that surprising at the moment. We've even got his old manager who he's on good terms with here and he still didn't fancy it. Feck him.

[detox]

This long running saga has kinda elevated May as our main marquee signing this summer, so having ultimately lost out by being outbid by Brum has reignited all those disappointments we've had over the past 5 years or so...an apparent lack of ambition at the club.

Maybe it's the legacy of flogging off those expensive PL players then recruiting too many duff players that's lingered in the memory. Non of our recent signings have actually paid off have they?

So with that background, and our relegation I guess we were hoping things will be different now?

It appears,at the moment, nothing has changed..and that's where the disappointment comes in, however irrational it might be, but fans want to see ambition!

[royrace]

Jul 1, 2024 16:44:45 GMT 1 waggers said:

I've slated Cartright etc but this genuinely might have been out of their control. Charlton will have touted this lad around all the bigger League 1 clubs, we likely agreed terms with him but Charlton just leveraged our bid to get more out of Birmingham.

Then he's chosen Birmingham over us which isn't that surprising at the moment. We've even got his old manager who he's on good terms with here and he still didn't fancy it. Feck him.

Problem is it feels a bit like last year doesn't it. I don't think any of us expected such a terrible summer window then. There was talk of Ashley Barnes, then NW telling us we couldn't compete financially..... seems we can't in L1 either!

Until we see evidence to the contrary I have very little faith in the clubs ability to bring in quality players in the positions we need them.

And like it or not the clock is ticking, we've already started the pre season games and we've brought in one full back to date and sold our best midfielder from a midfield that already badly needed strengthening.

[leroy212]

It's fine Birmingham spending loads and paying big wages. That's upto them. But surely ffp will catch upto them at some point

[crux]

Jul 1, 2024 17:14:38 GMT 1 leroy212 said:

It's fine Birmingham spending loads and paying big wages. That's upto them. But surely ffp will catch upto them at some point

It will, especially if they use a big cash injection this season to keep the wages to below 70% of turnover. If they get promoted the cash injection isn't included in the Championship FFP rules and their rolling 3 year loses could easily go over the £39M allowed.

[waggers]

Jul 1, 2024 17:13:04 GMT 1 royrace said:

Jul 1, 2024 16:44:45 GMT 1 waggers said:

I've slated Cartright etc but this genuinely might have been out of their control. Charlton will have touted this lad around all the bigger League 1 clubs, we likely agreed terms with him but Charlton just leveraged our bid to get more out of Birmingham.

Then he's chosen Birmingham over us which isn't that surprising at the moment. We've even got his old manager who he's on good terms with here and he still didn't fancy it. Feck him.

Problem is it feels a bit like last year doesn't it. I don't think any of us expected such a terrible summer window then. There was talk of Ashley Barnes, then NW telling us we couldn't compete financially..... seems we can't in L1 either!

Until we see evidence to the contrary I have very little faith in the clubs ability to bring in quality players in the positions we need them.

And like it or not the clock is ticking, we've already started the pre season games and we've brought in one full back to date and sold our best midfielder from a midfield that already badly needed strengthening.

I agree with you in general and there should be a plan B striker signed sharpish, but seems this lad will be getting £10k plus a week at Birmingham. They would always have offered more per week than us, he'll have always followed the cash.

I agree though it's time to start completing signings, we've been messed about with this bloke he can't be the only option.

[goodbet]

Jul 1, 2024 12:52:00 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Damn. It was all going a bit too well so far. Not good going for targets and losing out to Brum. Not a good look for further signings this summer. That said he was the wrong age really. I always fear injury with over 28’s.

What was going so well?

We sold 1 we signed 1.

[Ricky's Mellons]

Just a thought, Birmingham and town both have similar situations.

Both rich American owners

Both relegated

Both made poor managerial decisions last season

Both in for May.

Is this the decision they get right or us ?

[Maynardblue]

Jul 1, 2024 16:39:37 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

It's not just being able to to afford £15k+ a week - it's the message that sends to the rest of the squad on £5k a week and less - we need a harmonious squad above all else this season.

[htafc12]

Not massively upset we’ve missed out on may.

More fucked off it looked like he was set to sign and we’ve rolled over and let brum take him off us.

Shows little intent..

Odds on him to score 3+ against us this coming season🤣

[Big Ern]

Jul 1, 2024 17:48:27 GMT 1 Maynardblue said:

Jul 1, 2024 16:39:37 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

It's not just being able to to afford £15k+ a week - it's the message that sends to the rest of the squad on £5k a week and less - we need a harmonious squad above all else this season.

And he isn't worth anywhere near that.

[Up the Duff.]

Jul 1, 2024 16:39:37 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

Offloading them for free is an issue..

[Waterloo Terrier]

Jul 1, 2024 17:13:04 GMT 1 royrace said:

Jul 1, 2024 16:44:45 GMT 1 waggers said:

I've slated Cartright etc but this genuinely might have been out of their control. Charlton will have touted this lad around all the bigger League 1 clubs, we likely agreed terms with him but Charlton just leveraged our bid to get more out of Birmingham.

Then he's chosen Birmingham over us which isn't that surprising at the moment. We've even got his old manager who he's on good terms with here and he still didn't fancy it. Feck him.

Problem is it feels a bit like last year doesn't it. I don't think any of us expected such a terrible summer window then. There was talk of Ashley Barnes, then NW telling us we couldn't compete financially..... seems we can't in L1 either!

Until we see evidence to the contrary I have very little faith in the clubs ability to bring in quality players in the positions we need them.

And like it or not the clock is ticking, we've already started the pre season games and we've brought in one full back to date and sold our best midfielder from a midfield that already badly needed strengthening.

That’s the main problem. Spent weeks perusing this and nothing has come of it. Fair enough Birmingham have thrown the kitchen sink at it, but hope we’ve got an equivalent alternative. And the midfield still needs real work doing to it.

[Yuta be a terrier]

Jul 1, 2024 17:48:27 GMT 1 Maynardblue said:

Jul 1, 2024 16:39:37 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

It's not just being able to to afford £15k+ a week - it's the message that sends to the rest of the squad on £5k a week and less - we need a harmonious squad above all else this season.

Have we moved onto alternatives then?

[wigster]

Jul 1, 2024 18:01:51 GMT 1 Up the Duff. said:

Jul 1, 2024 16:39:37 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

Offloading them for free is an issue..

Anyone want a friendly bet that Alfie May will score two times as many Div 1 goals this coming season by himself than all those strikers put together ?
And talking of wage costs, and getting rid, how on earth do we get rid of Danny Ward ?

[nicovaesen]

Jul 1, 2024 17:14:38 GMT 1 leroy212 said:

It's fine Birmingham spending loads and paying big wages. That's upto them. But surely ffp will catch upto them at some point

That rule only applies to us

[uptownfunk]

Jul 1, 2024 17:46:14 GMT 1 goodbet said:

Jul 1, 2024 12:52:00 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Damn. It was all going a bit too well so far. Not good going for targets and losing out to Brum. Not a good look for further signings this summer. That said he was the wrong age really. I always fear injury with over 28’s.

What was going so well?

We sold 1 we signed 1.

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

[shawsie]

Jul 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Jul 1, 2024 17:46:14 GMT 1 goodbet said:

What was going so well?

We sold 1 we signed 1.

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

Thats just not true is it.
Theres lots of talent out there - you just have to find it and acquire it.
Yes we will need to spend money - but weve been told we have promising young guns for yrs now - time for 1 or 2 to step up surely?

[keefer]

Jul 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Jul 1, 2024 17:46:14 GMT 1 goodbet said:

What was going so well?

We sold 1 we signed 1.

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

I know it's not a fashionable view and I'm not 100% convinced myself but I think that Wiles could and should be, one of those £1M players. If he is fully fit and focused then he will be a force in this league. I know it was only a preseason friendly but he looked very quick and strong against Emley. I know he has a long way to go to convince our supporters but how good would it be if we already had that creativity within the club

[uptownfunk]

Jul 1, 2024 19:01:45 GMT 1 shawsie said:

Jul 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

Thats just not true is it.
Theres lots of talent out there - you just have to find it and acquire it.
Yes we will need to spend money - but weve been told we have promising young guns for yrs now - time for 1 or 2 to step up surely?

Money talks. Players have values. Unless we unearth a completely unknown gem but like they’ll be unproven.. I don’t think the old adage that it’s a case of finding untapped. All clubs are trying to do that and most have more resources to that task that we do. We don’t need to spend a lot but we desperately need quality in the midfield and quality costs.

[uptownfunk]

Jul 1, 2024 19:13:09 GMT 1 keefer said:

Jul 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

I know it's not a fashionable view and I'm not 100% convinced myself but I think that Wiles could and should be, one of those £1M players. If he is fully fit and focused then he will be a force in this league. I know it was only a preseason friendly but he looked very quick and strong against Emley. I know he has a long way to go to convince our supporters but how good would it be if we already had that creativity within the club

I think there’s need to be some sort of explanation about what happened to him last season. I.e. was he injured. It’d be great if you were right and I hope you are.

[htfcfcfc]

Said it before and say it again. For me we can do better and longer term than May.

Up to the 2020 season he’d done very little of note aside from knocking around the non league and seemingly struggled for goals at Donny.

I’m not suggesting he won’t score goals this season but surely we can find as good or better. I still think we should be playing our bigger chips on a midfielder and in Healey we have someone who knows where the goals are.

[Scott Chegg]

Jul 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Jul 1, 2024 17:46:14 GMT 1 goodbet said:

What was going so well?

We sold 1 we signed 1.

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

I'm not sure many £1m plus midfielders would be wanting league 1 football and 7k a week when championship sides would likely be interested and happy to pay twice that 😢

[JonsonClarkParis]

If Birmingham are paying silly money then have him however I don’t know who’s available who could of got the goals may would of got us