Alfie May

[goodbet]

Jul 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Jul 1, 2024 17:46:14 GMT 1 goodbet said:

What was going so well?

We sold 1 we signed 1.

We started off with good intent, signing Lincoln’s player of the season. Rudoni wanted out so not a great loss in one sense. Chasing players and being gazumped is Town of old tho and creates uncertainty. Plus as you rightly say how are we going to create anything if we cannot pass the ball. I’d say forget about a striker and buy 2 midfielders who can keep the ball and create- not less than £1M each or they likely just won’t have the quality even for league one.

I am slightly concerned as to where we are at the moment.

We were told that we would like to get the players in early and we have signed one and unfortunately missed out on one.

Early to me is for the return of the players for training. We could stretch that for the start of the pre season tour if the window is proving difficult, which it appears to be.

We don't know what our transfer budget is but most people commenting on it seem to think we have a large one for this league. I don't know but since the new owner took over, the fans expectations have exceeded the actual, probably down to fans living in hope and the over hype from the videos more than anything else.

I would like to know what people within the football industry think of Huddersfield Town. Are we a good prospect or do they look at our record since getting relegated from the Premier League and see us as a club with issues to be resolved.

If we were not fans would we look at Town as say to a player, there is a club to move to, it will help you to develop and is going places.

[cyberman]

Have we signed anyoneelse yet ? - just woke up and my bed is all wet !

[hasta el pueblo]

Jul 1, 2024 19:39:22 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Have we signed anyoneelse yet ? - just woke up and my bed is all wet !

Yes, Miller from Plymouth, left wingback.

[arry11]

Jul 1, 2024 19:33:49 GMT 1 JonsonClarkParis said:

If Birmingham are paying silly money then have him however I don’t know who’s available who could of got the goals may would of got us

Sort out our midfield and decent striker will get us by.

[rubicon]

Jul 1, 2024 15:25:47 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Jul 1, 2024 14:54:29 GMT 1 rubicon said:

I'm sorry Town, but you really couldn't run a bath when it comes down to it. Look, i realise other clubs will be interested, but the deal dragged on so long, it basically just invited everyone else to have a look, particularly as is obvious our main rivals.
Maybe just maybe, one day we'll stop being such sodding misers over what was slightly over 3% more than we offered.
Sure maybe things do just drag on, but surely there's ways of moving things quicker? Look it can take months to buy a house, but some folks get the whole shebang done and dusted in a month. Ways and bloody means spring to mind.

For the billionth time: WE HAD AGREED A FEE.

If we lose out, it isn’t the fee.

Who said otherwise? All I've said is we've let someone come in and steal it, in a week. Why? Put up a show for goodness sake Town. Don't use your "billionth" time just to show how clever you think you are. I've been watching this same' we're only a small club' since the early 60s, even when we've been successful under Greaves and Wagner, and to be fair it's just crap. It's time to change the record, because it goes back even further to Shankly's days.

[Larry David]

I'm not that arsed about this. 31 year old league one player for nearly 1m and 10k a week

Absolutely mental and dodged a huge big bullet

Next.

[kimbo999]

Jul 1, 2024 20:52:48 GMT 1 Larry David said:

I'm not that arsed about this. 31 year old league one player for nearly 1m and 10k a week

Absolutely mental and dodged a huge big bullet

Next.

I'm in agreement
Keep Healey fit and get him service he will bag 20 goals
Just need to hope bojan can get fit and stronger, clearly has ability

[dezzly]

I think it would have been a good signing.but that doesn’t mean it’s right to accept defeat if from what some are saying,the wages would have been too much to compete with.we may be willing to pay over the odds on fees and wages for some but the age will have come into the thinking.probably more from Cartwright etc than the manager himself but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
He could turn out to be brilliant for Birmingham and if he is so be it.

[thomo]

Jul 1, 2024 21:21:36 GMT 1 kimbo999 said:

Jul 1, 2024 20:52:48 GMT 1 Larry David said:

I'm not that arsed about this. 31 year old league one player for nearly 1m and 10k a week

Absolutely mental and dodged a huge big bullet

Next.

I'm in agreement
Keep Healey fit and get him service he will bag 20 goals
Just need to hope bojan can get fit and stronger, clearly has ability

I'm hopeful Healey will stay fit but we have to admit it's probably unlikely he'll play a full season based on his past. Maybe that's why we were looking at May

[arry11]

Jul 1, 2024 20:18:37 GMT 1 rubicon said:

Jul 1, 2024 15:25:47 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

For the billionth time: WE HAD AGREED A FEE.

If we lose out, it isn’t the fee.

Who said otherwise? All I've said is we've let someone come in and steal it, in a week. Why? Put up a show for goodness sake Town. Don't use your "billionth" time just to show how clever you think you are. I've been watching this same' we're only a small club' since the early 60s, even when we've been successful under Greaves and Wagner, and to be fair it's just crap. It's time to change the record, because it goes back even further to Shankly's days.

Give up know matter how long it takes Teams with the means can just wait to see what the going rate is and then cherry pick at the last push.

[The Sheriff Strikes Back]

Jul 1, 2024 20:52:48 GMT 1 Larry David said:

I'm not that arsed about this. 31 year old league one player for nearly 1m and 10k a week

Absolutely mental and dodged a huge big bullet

Next.

I remember folk saying the same about Rickie Lambert

[Larry David]

Jul 2, 2024 8:43:41 GMT 1 The Sheriff Strikes Back said:

Jul 1, 2024 20:52:48 GMT 1 Larry David said:

I'm not that arsed about this. 31 year old league one player for nearly 1m and 10k a week

Absolutely mental and dodged a huge big bullet

Next.

I remember folk saying the same about Rickie Lambert

Are you serious in comparing Alfie May with Rickie Lambert?

[The Sheriff Strikes Back]

Jul 2, 2024 9:06:00 GMT 1 Larry David said:

Jul 2, 2024 8:43:41 GMT 1 The Sheriff Strikes Back said:

I remember folk saying the same about Rickie Lambert

Are you serious in comparing Alfie May with Rickie Lambert?

Please tell me what is so wildly different between this situation and the situation in which Hoyle refused to pay £1mil for an aging, lower league striker, who then went on to drag Southampton to promotion.

[gledholt terrier]

Jul 2, 2024 9:14:34 GMT 1 The Sheriff Strikes Back said:

Jul 2, 2024 9:06:00 GMT 1 Larry David said:

Are you serious in comparing Alfie May with Rickie Lambert?

Please tell me what is so wildly different between this situation and the situation in which Hoyle refused to pay £1mil for an aging, lower league striker, who then went on to drag Southampton to promotion.

Lambert was 27, not 31.

[tonytiler]

Let's be honest it's disappointing but like others have said the most important position is a good midfield player.Players like Healey will come good if fit with better service.UTT

[sapphireblue]

Jul 1, 2024 17:47:54 GMT 1 Ricky's Mellons said:

Just a thought, Birmingham and town both have similar situations.

Both rich American owners

Both relegated

Both made poor managerial decisions last season

Both in for May.

Is this the decision they get right or us ?

Simple.
They are buying last season's top scorer.
We now need to sign next season's top scorer.

[ram]

Can we put this one to bed now,we can use mine ,it is dry as a bone!

[The Sheriff Strikes Back]

Jul 2, 2024 9:18:25 GMT 1 gledholt terrier said:

Jul 2, 2024 9:14:34 GMT 1 The Sheriff Strikes Back said:

Please tell me what is so wildly different between this situation and the situation in which Hoyle refused to pay £1mil for an aging, lower league striker, who then went on to drag Southampton to promotion.

Lambert was 27, not 31.

Not really a huge difference is it? The original point still remains, we were told at the time that he was too old make the transfer fee worthwhile, and now some fans are saying the same, when in both cases it's absolute rubbish.

[Dan]

Jul 2, 2024 11:14:52 GMT 1 The Sheriff Strikes Back said:

Jul 2, 2024 9:18:25 GMT 1 gledholt terrier said:

Lambert was 27, not 31.

Not really a huge difference is it? The original point still remains, we were told at the time that he was too old make the transfer fee worthwhile, and now some fans are saying the same, when in both cases it's absolute rubbish.

The differences are that Town aren't haggling over a transfer fee. The fee got accepted. They've been blown out the water on wages. As others have pointed out, even if we wanted to match what Birmingham are paying Alfie May - it doesn't make for a harmonious dressing room if one player is getting paid 2/3 times what everyone else is.

The other difference is Alfie May won't be playing for Liverpool and England in a few years.

[ldotm]

Jul 2, 2024 11:14:52 GMT 1 The Sheriff Strikes Back said:

Jul 2, 2024 9:18:25 GMT 1 gledholt terrier said:

Lambert was 27, not 31.

Not really a huge difference is it? The original point still remains, we were told at the time that he was too old make the transfer fee worthwhile, and now some fans are saying the same, when in both cases it's absolute rubbish.

27 to 31 isn’t a huge difference? 4 years is a long time in a footballers career.

[Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser)]

Jul 1, 2024 16:39:37 GMT 1 htafcdreams said:

Do wonder wage costs in Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May

Irrelevant, as it's not a binary choice. It's not the wage costs of Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett vs £10k a week + extras for May. it's not the wage costs of Ward+Hudlin+Simpson+Harrett PLUS 10k a week + extras for May, as we have no guaranteed way of removing the costs of Ward et al...

[blueandwhiteterrier]

Good grief 🙄 why exactly are we still talking about May? It's over. Let's move on... please 🙏

[shawsie]

Jul 1, 2024 19:21:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Jul 1, 2024 19:01:45 GMT 1 shawsie said:

Thats just not true is it.
Theres lots of talent out there - you just have to find it and acquire it.
Yes we will need to spend money - but weve been told we have promising young guns for yrs now - time for 1 or 2 to step up surely?

Money talks. Players have values. Unless we unearth a completely unknown gem but like they’ll be unproven.. I don’t think the old adage that it’s a case of finding untapped. All clubs are trying to do that and most have more resources to that task that we do. We don’t need to spend a lot but we desperately need quality in the midfield and quality costs.

Nobody doubts your last point - but look at the championship last yr. Ipswich got up by an amalgam of spening some money (but nothing like leeds, soton, leicester, hull to name but 4) - what is key is recruitment.
You have to ignore alot on here and trawl the national league / leagues one and two for young hungry talented players who you can coach and improve. Our way fwd surely is to bring in more rudonis, sorba's, pilks, rhodes, coady, butterfield etc - a model that we used yet for some unfathomable reason DH seemed to rip up in his latter years. A way fwd is not paying a 31 yr old striker 10k+pw on 2/3 yr deal for 750k+ then losing it if you either fail to go up in yr 1 or he isnt good enough if you go up.

[arry11]

The guy is not coming which means we still hold the cash i see it as an opportunity for example we could try and prise Antony Evans out of Rovers, Ethan Erhahon out of Lincoln two younger players who may be capable of playing at an higher level. Someone said we are trying to bring in a striker on loan for me that will cover most bases and still room for cover elsewhere.

[cuz]

Jul 2, 2024 13:48:18 GMT 1 arry11 said:

The guy is not coming which means we still hold the cash i see it as an opportunity for example we could try and prise Antony Evans out of Rovers, Ethan Erhahon out of Lincoln two younger players who may be capable of playing at an higher level. Someone said we are trying to bring in a striker on loan for me that will cover most bases and still room for cover elsewhere.

Good shout on those two. Lincoln lad massively rated and we will do well to get one or both

[uptownfunk]

Jul 2, 2024 12:36:08 GMT 1 shawsie said:

Jul 1, 2024 19:21:37 GMT 1 uptownfunk said:

Money talks. Players have values. Unless we unearth a completely unknown gem but like they’ll be unproven.. I don’t think the old adage that it’s a case of finding untapped. All clubs are trying to do that and most have more resources to that task that we do. We don’t need to spend a lot but we desperately need quality in the midfield and quality costs.

Nobody doubts your last point - but look at the championship last yr. Ipswich got up by an amalgam of spening some money (but nothing like leeds, soton, leicester, hull to name but 4) - what is key is recruitment.
You have to ignore alot on here and trawl the national league / leagues one and two for young hungry talented players who you can coach and improve. Our way fwd surely is to bring in more rudonis, sorba's, pilks, rhodes, coady, butterfield etc - a model that we used yet for some unfathomable reason DH seemed to rip up in his latter years. A way fwd is not paying a 31 yr old striker 10k+pw on 2/3 yr deal for 750k+ then losing it if you either fail to go up in yr 1 or he isnt good enough if you go up.

You make some excellent points. Absolutely agree on signing young potential and I thought under Bromby we were really strong in that area. However, for right now I think league one our best chance is the first chance. Bounce straight back. Therefore I think we need at least 1 midfielder proven at league one or champs and they cost money. Evans sounds like the sort of player I’m talking about. Not mega money but approx £1M seems about the going rate.. similar for a proven goalscorer at this level.. if we use May as the example…I think there are goals in this team Healey, Radulovic - for starters. Ward. Get off your arses. Get fit and set an example these 3. Then there’s the enigma that is Koroma. Hes going to get even more time and space to shoot in this league… if he’s fit and on his metal.. Every winning team needs a playmaking midfielder in there. A tempo setter. Everting goes through him. He keeps the ball. He plays FORWARD passes. Occasionally his own forward runs. Duff has built winning teams and so he knows this much. Sooner the better. We must hit the growing running at Peterborough. Win the next two home games then a big game at Rotherham. Momentum is everything as Ipswich showed.

[detox]

How much weekly wage do you think Town were offering?

If it was,say,£8k pw..so May gets after tax £1k pw more but has to live and send his kids to school nr Birmingham?

Has he really thought this through?

[Dan]

Jul 2, 2024 17:15:36 GMT 1 detox said:

How much weekly wage do you think Town were offering?

If it was,say,£8k pw..so May gets after tax £1k pw more but has to live and send his kids to school nr Birmingham?

Has he really thought this through?

I reckon he probably has mate yeah

[merseysideterrier]

Jul 2, 2024 17:15:36 GMT 1 detox said:

How much weekly wage do you think Town were offering?

If it was,say,£8k pw..so May gets after tax £1k pw more but has to live and send his kids to school nr Birmingham?

Has he really thought this through?

If someone offered me an extra £1k pw after tax on top of what I earn anyway to live near Birmingham I'd happily start calling a teacakes a cob.

[ldotm]

Jul 2, 2024 17:15:36 GMT 1 detox said:

How much weekly wage do you think Town were offering?

If it was,say,£8k pw..so May gets after tax £1k pw more but has to live and send his kids to school nr Birmingham?

Has he really thought this through?

An additional £52k a year after tax is hardly pocket change.. also, it’s not like he’s going to a team that have less ambition than us. Birmingham are favourites to win the league..