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Post by Sparrow on Aug 27, 2024 14:56:19 GMT 1
Think healey is a proper goalscorer, unfortunately for us he can’t seem to stay fit Ah but he missed one chance so he isn’t a proper goal scorer. And ignoring that the keeper did exceptionally well to come out, close the angle, stay big, not go down too early and make a save with his left foot to stop the shot.....One of a few good saves he made. Lee Nicholls has saved a number of 1v1's over the last few seasons and every time he does we rave about how great he is, best keeper outside the prem, best keeper we've had in years blah blah blah. An opposing keeper does it and it's Oh our striker is not a proper goal scorer?  |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 14:56:57 GMT 1
Ah but he missed one chance so he isn’t a proper goal scorer. And ignoring that the keeper did exceptionally well to come out, close the angle, stay big, not go down too early and make a save with his left foot to stop the shot.....One of a few good saves he made. Lee Nicholls has saved a number of 1v1's over the last few seasons and every time he does we rave about how great he is, best keeper outside the prem, best keeper we've had in years blah blah blah. An opposing keeper does it and it's Oh our striker is not a proper goal scorer? Let's see how many goals Healey has at the end of the season. |
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Post by Sparrow on Aug 27, 2024 14:57:59 GMT 1
And ignoring that the keeper did exceptionally well to come out, close the angle, stay big, not go down too early and make a save with his left foot to stop the shot.....One of a few good saves he made. Lee Nicholls has saved a number of 1v1's over the last few seasons and every time he does we rave about how great he is, best keeper outside the prem, best keeper we've had in years blah blah blah. An opposing keeper does it and it's Oh our striker is not a proper goal scorer? Let's see how many goals Healey has at the end of the season. Let's hope he's closer to 20 than 2. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 14:59:07 GMT 1
Let's see how many goals Healey has at the end of the season. Let's hope he's closer to 20 than 2. Indeed. If he gets double figures then you can slag me off to high heaven. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 27, 2024 15:00:47 GMT 1
We appear to be hanging our hat on some lad who can't get on Lutons bench and waiting until they decide.
I might have missed something but surely we could have gone out and purchased a quality L1 striker. Why have we left ourselves at the mercy of other clubs with three days left yet again? If we're genuinely serious about promotion a new striker is needed.
Piss poor to get to this stage and having to start with Koroma and Ward to front. We're only a Ward and Healey injury away from Harrat being first choice and the chances of those two remaining injury free is zero.
Quite fecking ridiculous to be talking about lack of strikers.... Again.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 27, 2024 15:01:55 GMT 1
Ah but he missed one chance so he isn’t a proper goal scorer. He missed 2. The one he put wide after being fed in to the area by Koroma was a chance he should’ve been taking, and the one on one even more so. I’m not down on him and I think he should score a good amount of goals at a level which is beneath his ability but not his injury record. The first one looked to me like a half chance at best. I have not seen the highlights so I could be wrong on this. The second one he should definitely have scored. All strikers miss chances. From the little we have seen of Healey, he looks our best finisher. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 27, 2024 15:02:15 GMT 1
Ah but he missed one chance so he isn’t a proper goal scorer. And ignoring that the keeper did exceptionally well to come out, close the angle, stay big, not go down too early and make a save with his left foot to stop the shot.....One of a few good saves he made. Lee Nicholls has saved a number of 1v1's over the last few seasons and every time he does we rave about how great he is, best keeper outside the prem, best keeper we've had in years blah blah blah. An opposing keeper does it and it's Oh our striker is not a proper goal scorer? A miss rather than a good save imo but I rate Healey, no striker scores every chance. He needs to stay fit and the goals will come. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 27, 2024 15:21:13 GMT 1
He missed 2. The one he put wide after being fed in to the area by Koroma was a chance he should’ve been taking, and the one on one even more so. I’m not down on him and I think he should score a good amount of goals at a level which is beneath his ability but not his injury record. The first one looked to me like a half chance at best. I have not seen the highlights so I could be wrong on this. The second one he should definitely have scored. All strikers miss chances. From the little we have seen of Healey, he looks our best finisher. Just re-watched it to make sure I wasn’t misremembering - definitely more than a half chance, he dragged it wide with a very good sighting of goal. Still think he will prove himself if, and I appreciate it’s a big one, he keeps free of injury. I like his all round play - on Saturday he initiated that one on one chance and also the one where Koroma hit the bar when offside. He has a lot to offer. I’m definitely in a minority on Alfie May - a lower league 31 year old journeyman who has had a couple of hot streaks, as admirable as they were, just wasn’t worth to us what Birmingham paid. They will have a lot of high earners so the potential impact on squad morale unlikely to be what it may have been at Town. |
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Post by harri54 on Aug 27, 2024 15:32:36 GMT 1
'Gave it the big one'? I am sure that if Cartwright and co go to Nagle with a player they want, Nagel will give them the okay. Being 'backed' and throwing stupid money is different. Take Alfie May for example, do you think Duff should have been 'backed' and we pay what Brum were offering him? Or would you say that would be throwing money stupidly? Considering, on promotion, it then impacts FFP restrictions. Yes. If you want a proven goalscorer, be prepared to pay the going rate. I'd rather have Alfie May on stupid money scoring a load of goals, than Danny Ward/Kian Harratt/Rhys Healey/Bojan Radulovic getting eight between them. Of course you would, it's not your money. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 15:42:59 GMT 1
Yes. If you want a proven goalscorer, be prepared to pay the going rate. I'd rather have Alfie May on stupid money scoring a load of goals, than Danny Ward/Kian Harratt/Rhys Healey/Bojan Radulovic getting eight between them. Of course you would, it's not your money. Crap argument. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 27, 2024 16:07:13 GMT 1
And ignoring that the keeper did exceptionally well to come out, close the angle, stay big, not go down too early and make a save with his left foot to stop the shot.....One of a few good saves he made. Lee Nicholls has saved a number of 1v1's over the last few seasons and every time he does we rave about how great he is, best keeper outside the prem, best keeper we've had in years blah blah blah. An opposing keeper does it and it's Oh our striker is not a proper goal scorer? Let's see how many goals Healey has at the end of the season. Very up in the air isn't it. I'm surprised he's not scored yet as he had the best hit rate in a team that created much less last season. All about how fit he can stay, he's never managed a full season of games before. I can see him scoring 20+ best case scenario, but I can also see him scoring 3 from 15 total appearances or something similarly disappointing. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 27, 2024 16:07:46 GMT 1
Yes. If you want a proven goalscorer, be prepared to pay the going rate. I'd rather have Alfie May on stupid money scoring a load of goals, than Danny Ward/Kian Harratt/Rhys Healey/Bojan Radulovic getting eight between them. Of course you would, it's not your money. Now I'm one of KN's biggest fans and think he REALLY isn't in it for the money** and I'm one that didn't want to get into a wages bidding war with Brum. But if KN says money's no object (paraphrasing) and we're realistically aiming for an immediate promotion then in a sense htafcokay and others are right and a show of intent would have been fighting for him, although I'm kind of glad we didn't and have an inkling that MD may not have wanted to be too exuberant wages-wise to keep/create a more harmonious dressing room. ** Buying Town and being in it for money would of course be one hell of an oxymoron  |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 27, 2024 16:11:32 GMT 1
If we had signed May we'd have got a third less value out of him because we never get given penalties, which is where he gets a third of his goals from!
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Post by willo on Aug 27, 2024 16:17:44 GMT 1
Let's hope he's closer to 20 than 2. Indeed. If he gets double figures then you can slag me off to high heaven. Not by me but I think you’re wrong on this one. Reckon Healey is good for 12-15 goals at this level even if he misses 1/3 of the season through injury. He’s undoubtedly our main goal threat but we absolutely do need another striker in by the time the window shuts. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 27, 2024 16:22:33 GMT 1
If we had signed May we'd have got a third less value out of him because we never get given penalties, which is where he gets a third of his goals from! Plus with our record he'd already have a thigh strain and two weeks after he recovers Hoggy would foul someone inadvertently injuring him for the rest of the season |
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Post by theterrier42 on Aug 27, 2024 16:29:40 GMT 1
With it not being good news on Spencer we will be in the market for a defender as well as a striker
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Post by rockwall on Aug 27, 2024 16:46:39 GMT 1
With it not being good news on Spencer we will be in the market for a defender as well as a striker Dirtyoldtown has just stated defender incoming. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 27, 2024 16:57:01 GMT 1
With it not being good news on Spencer we will be in the market for a defender as well as a striker Dirtyoldtown has just stated defender incoming. Wasn’t it him/her/them that said business was done? Apologies if it was someone else |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 27, 2024 17:00:57 GMT 1
Posh are currently 7th having won their 2 games after us...They finished 4th last season with 25 wins, 61 goals scored and only 28 conceded. We've just comfortably beaten them 2-0 Stevenage are currently 11th having won and drawn their other 2 games...they finished 9th last season just 5 points outside the play-offs. We've just beaten them 2-1, with them scoring a last minute penalty. Granted it was a poor second half, but we could have been 3-0 and out of sight at half time.... The 3 clubs that Brum have played so far this season and drawn and had 2 narrow wins against, finished below those 2 teams last season. They haven't played anyone of note as yet and haven't particular blow them away. Stockport are on a  of positivity after going up last season, as are Wrexham and Crawley. Will they all continue their good start for a full season? Charlton finished 16th last season, will they continue their good form for a full season? Lincoln finished 7th, currently 2 wins from 3. We are 3 from 3. Bolton have won one, lost one, drawn one. We all know the season after loosing the play off final can be tough. Barnsley have won 1, lost one drawn 1. We've won 3 from 3. Blackpool are currently 3rd bottom with 1 point. Wycombe who finished 10th last season are currently 16th with just 1 win and 2 losses. Leyton Orient finished 11th and are currently 2nd bottom with 0 points. Northampton who are currently 5 points behind us in 10th and finished 14th last season. Stevenage are 11th and if they finish above us, we might as well just pack in. Reading are 12th with 1 win, and finished 17th last season..... We've not as yet played well for a full 90 minutes in any of our matches yet. Essentially the players are still learning Duff's style of play. We will get better. We've won 3 out of 3, scoring 5 and conceding just 1. But yeah, we are far from looking like an automatic promotion contender Can I just ask you and others, who are the ones that on current form and results look better prospects for Automatic promotion than us and why? We don't play like a team full of confidence who can pass the ball around and score at will. Maybe given more time Duff will get us nearer that, but we are still no more than average without a true striker in the squad and we have gaps in other areas as well.
I am not getting carried away just because the results look much better than the way we have played todate.As for other teams I don't watch them with the same intensity as I do Town, but others have provided a number of names. Not sure I'd go that far though. We've played 4 & won 4 (if you include the cup game), but we've deserved every win. Unless you just mean that we've been "fortunate" to have a relatively easy start to the season. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Aug 27, 2024 17:14:31 GMT 1
Why are we worried about Birmingham, they are a bah Humbug of a club and won't be a problem for us. We can't blame poor Dany Ward who is always on his own up front and i read somewhere we have 7 so called strikers!!. Mark my word we will be our own worst enemy, you buy when you are strong but we have players out already injured, quality players.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Aug 27, 2024 17:21:09 GMT 1
With it not being good news on Spencer we will be in the market for a defender as well as a striker What’s the news on Spencer? |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 27, 2024 17:27:28 GMT 1
We don't play like a team full of confidence who can pass the ball around and score at will. Maybe given more time Duff will get us nearer that, but we are still no more than average without a true striker in the squad and we have gaps in other areas as well.
I am not getting carried away just because the results look much better than the way we have played todate.As for other teams I don't watch them with the same intensity as I do Town, but others have provided a number of names. Not sure I'd go that far though. We've played 4 & won 4 (if you include the cup game), but we've deserved every win. Unless you just mean that we've been "fortunate" to have a relatively easy start to the season. 4 wins on the trot is great, but the performances have been just adequate. Considering last season that is a big improvement but we still are a long way from a fluent passing football team. So that is where I see that the results have been better than the performances'. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Aug 27, 2024 17:27:33 GMT 1
With it not being good news on Spencer we will be in the market for a defender as well as a striker What’s the news on Spencer? Nothing official but lots of chat about it being a bad one with his shoulder and I have also heard the same, potentially a couple month |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Aug 27, 2024 17:29:21 GMT 1
What’s the news on Spencer? Nothing official but lots of chat about it being a bad one with his shoulder and I have also heard the same, potentially a couple month Ah right. Cheers. More blooming longish term injuries! |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 27, 2024 17:32:06 GMT 1
He missed 2. The one he put wide after being fed in to the area by Koroma was a chance he should’ve been taking, and the one on one even more so. I’m not down on him and I think he should score a good amount of goals at a level which is beneath his ability but not his injury record. The first one looked to me like a half chance at best. I have not seen the highlights so I could be wrong on this. The second one he should definitely have scored. All strikers miss chances. From the little we have seen of Healey, he looks our best finisher. I don't think that anyone would have to be very good to be our best finisher. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 27, 2024 17:36:38 GMT 1
So basically you say we are not Automatic promotion candidates, but then from the other 23 league 1 teams, you can't name 2 that will finish above us and why......OK Whilst I agree we could do with a couple of additions to the first 11 - Striker & left footed Centre Back - we've won 3 of 3 without getting anywhere near top form for a full 90 minutes and currently sit in an automatic promotion spot. For me, that actually bodes well. I'd expect Birmingham, Bolton and Charlton to all finish above us TBH. |
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Post by harri54 on Aug 27, 2024 17:37:27 GMT 1
Of course you would, it's not your money. Crap argument. Actually it was a flippant comment, not intended as an argument. If you want an argument I would refer to the consequential imbalance in wages across the squad & how that might upset moral, unless a whole load more of some else's money was chucked it, but others have made such points before so I thought you would have recalled such. As a Yorkshire bloke, I would be proudest if Town were to win without spending too much of anyone's money, even more so if it includes local lads coming through the academy investment, but that takes patience some don't have. Therefore I like our owners approach, and if it takes time to get in good purchases, so be it. |
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Post by rockwall on Aug 27, 2024 17:38:23 GMT 1
Dirtyoldtown has just stated defender incoming. Wasn’t it him/her/them that said business was done? Apologies if it was someone else Not sure tbh mate, never saw that comment. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 27, 2024 17:41:09 GMT 1
Actually it was a flippant comment, not intended as an argument. If you want an argument I would refer to the consequential imbalance in wages across the squad & how that might upset moral, unless a whole load more of some else's money was chucked it, but others have made such points before so I thought you would have recalled such. As a Yorkshire bloke, I would be proudest if Town were to win without spending too much of anyone's money, even more so if it includes local lads coming through the academy investment, but that takes patience some don't have. Therefore I like our owners approach, and if it takes time to get in good purchases, so be it. Couldn't care less how we win, as long as we do. When the owner says we are aiming for promotion this season, patience doesn't cone into it. It's none of our money, so by your argument you could say that no-one is allowed an opinion because it's not their money. But that would be ludicrous. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 27, 2024 17:42:36 GMT 1
Not sure I'd go that far though. We've played 4 & won 4 (if you include the cup game), but we've deserved every win. Unless you just mean that we've been "fortunate" to have a relatively easy start to the season. 4 wins on the trot is great, but the performances have been just adequate. Considering last season that is a big improvement but we still are a long way from a fluent passing football team. So that is where I see that the results have been better than the performances'. Yep. I'd go along with that. We've won every game & deserved to win every game, but not put in the sort of performance that makes us look like automatic promotion contenders. With you. Results are always more important than performances but performances are a decent indicator of how well you're likely to do as the season progresses. At the moment I would label us as a side chasing a playoff berth. Wouldn't be a major shock to see us promoted but it would be a minor one. |
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of positivity after going up last season, as are Wrexham and Crawley. Will they all continue their good start for a full season? Charlton finished 16th last season, will they continue their good form for a full season? Lincoln finished 7th, currently 2 wins from 3. We are 3 from 3. Bolton have won one, lost one, drawn one. We all know the season after loosing the play off final can be tough. Barnsley have won 1, lost one drawn 1. We've won 3 from 3. Blackpool are currently 3rd bottom with 1 point. Wycombe who finished 10th last season are currently 16th with just 1 win and 2 losses. Leyton Orient finished 11th and are currently 2nd bottom with 0 points. Northampton who are currently 5 points behind us in 10th and finished 14th last season. Stevenage are 11th and if they finish above us, we might as well just pack in. Reading are 12th with 1 win, and finished 17th last season.....
