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Post by bogart on Sept 21, 2024 20:38:10 GMT 1
Ref is shite proved that at Peterborough. Anything from behind is a foul except their 3rd goal.Not saying it was a foul but he needed to be consistent, even if consistently shite.
Linesman on Riverside a joke unable to make a decision himself even when presented with a shirt tug 2 feet in front of him.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 21, 2024 20:39:07 GMT 1
If Hodge does not start against Blackpool then I would be asking to cancel the loan and go back. When he came on he was the only player who was holding the ball and driving forward. Looks a quality footballer. Shame Iorpenda doesn't look like getting a chance to stake a claim too. |
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Post by Stiggy on Sept 21, 2024 20:39:29 GMT 1
Midfield consisting of Hogg, Wiles and Evens doesn’t work, I’ve never seen midfielders hide away from the ball like these 3 do.
Defence have no choice but to hoof it up top with these 3 not wanting the ball. What I’d do to have an O’Brien type in the side.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 21, 2024 20:46:53 GMT 1
Folk still seem to think Hogg is the root of all our problems. Wiles had over a season to prove how shit he is. None of us know how shit Evans is yet, as he’s not involved in the games he’s currently playing, even though he’s on the pitch. If he was player of year at Brize last season, they must’ve had a really poor squad. And folk don't understand just how much one player can disrupt a team when they are in such a vital position |
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Post by Bubbles on Sept 21, 2024 20:48:29 GMT 1
Is Nicholls getting away likely with that first goal? Surely he could have saved it or was it too quick for the brain to switch from feet to hands? Said exactly that on the funniest goals thread. He could have easily saved it,took a booking and risked the free-kick. Bizarre all round. |
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Post by wigster on Sept 21, 2024 20:58:22 GMT 1
No complaints with the referee or the 3rd goal today. Sorensen just too weak. So easy to blame the ref again for our failings. Northampton were the better team by far and deserved their win. We were only yards away watching it. We all thought that Sorensen had tripped himself up. Occasionally exciting going forward, he really is a weak link defensively - like the Licoln City supporters said on their forum. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 21:02:25 GMT 1
It was a very poor pass to Helik who was marked and Nichols was out of position. He shouldn't have played it. That's not excusing Heliks idiotic pass. But on top of that my point is he looks bang average, I'd rather have Pearson albeit on the right with Lees on the left. Well at least I definitely now know who to completely ignore on here .😂. Brilliant comedy post all of it . Thanks 👍 |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 21, 2024 21:03:48 GMT 1
Sorensen has gone right off the boil after a good start to the season. Neither wingback offered us anything in attack today and were just as bad in defence. Helik had a mare, Lees wasn't much better either. Thought Lonwijk was just OK, put in a couple of big challenges and looked to get us going forward with mixed results. The midfield was disjointed until Hodge and Kane came on, the game just passed them by in the first half. Marshall didn't get a sniff and you could see the confidence seep out of Koroma after the penalty miss, good goal though. Changes needed for the Blackpool game because some of those performances today were miles away from where they should be. Fair play to Northampton, they capitalised on our mistakes and worked harder all over the pitch. Sorenesen looked good going forward at the season start, but thats gone for now I've yet to see any defensive abilities whatever. Not a wing back IMO |
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Post by wigster on Sept 21, 2024 21:04:52 GMT 1
Terrible performance. I'm incandescent. Complacency? Who knows but we certainly did not help ourselves with poor passing, poor possession and terrible decision making from the off. OK the first goal is comedic but it should not have been as fatal as it turned out to be, the game is still there to be won. We continue our poor passing, possession and decision making and it's 2 nil, although is it such a good shot that Nicholls remains rooted to the spot? The most infuriating thing in the 1st half is that we keep making stupid fouls in and around the Northampton box letting them ease the pressure. 2nd half is better but alas still not good enough, still too many misplaced passes and not enough invention to break Northampton down. Fair play to Northampton there were 3 times when their defence made crucial blocks to save certain Town goals. The 3rd goal, I need to see it again to check gor the foul but if there isn't a foul that's cat piss defending from Sorensen. The crazy happenings around the 80 minute mark, swung the game finally out of our reach. Koroma scores and immediately we get a pen, a golden opportunity, here is where I have to take issue with the ref. If it's a 2nd yellow, then why the delay? Book him and get him sent off? The delay is probably fatal, Koroma has too much time to think and loses his focus and concentration and hits a crap penalty,one we've waited 3 years for!!! Those defending the ref, give your head a shake, he's had a shocker, how can he give a corner when Koroma clearly headed wide? That wasn't the only thing either, he gave Northampton a corner when it wasn't and the penalty delay was criminal. Am I the only one who found that Koroma header embarrassing ? A really good chance and he heads it more or less vertically off the TOP of his head. Amusing when he mocked his own heading ability after he scored his first ever headed goal the other week, but bloody awful when you think he's supposed to me a Division 1 professional striker. |
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Post by leftbacklegion on Sept 21, 2024 21:12:49 GMT 1
P155ing about at the back yet again. Did they forget what happened to Bolton last weekend? Or not watch Barnsley get pumped in midweek trying to do something similar?
Helik has looked off it, Headley is slower than dial-up, and - when it's the 82nd minute and chasing a game - a proper striker puts his laces through that pen.
Best moment was at 0-3 when we where attempting to go forward and someone shouted "Nicholls is on"
Wasn't worth the 4hr round trip and delays because part of the 62 is shut, thats for sure!
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Post by wigster on Sept 21, 2024 21:18:10 GMT 1
Midfield consisting of Hogg, Wiles and Evens doesn’t work, I’ve never seen midfielders hide away from the ball like these 3 do. Defence have no choice but to hoof it up top with these 3 not wanting the ball. What I’d do to have an O’Brien type in the side. Worrying thing for me is that Hogg is playing centrally in midfield in a position that demands the ability to pass forward, a bit like Mooy used to do. Everybody knows that Hoggy cannot pass a ball forward and when, as people say, Evans and Wiles are invariably hiding all he can do is pass it backwards. I love Hoggy but the world and his wife know that he's not a creative player. Add the two invisible men either side of him and our midfield really is weak, even for Division One. |
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Post by joek on Sept 21, 2024 21:29:55 GMT 1
That is the worst I’ve felt watching/leaving a Town match since play-off final. I could forgive them the last couple of seasons because I thought they just weren’t good enough, and think most would agree. This season though, we’re supposed to be better. Posh and Bolton results suggested we might be, but we’ve now had three very unconvincing home league performances in a row which culminated in that shit show.
A proper team could cope with the debacle that was their first goal. But no, as usual, heads go down and players start hiding. Even when given a huge get out of jail card - penalty, 10 men and potentially 12 mins to find an equaliser - we cock that up too.
That midfield three doesn’t work. We don’t need three centre halves. We’ve got rid of our wingers. Two points a game prob gets you promoted, but they were miles off today and the inconsistency is a huge worry. Not good enough.
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Post by stevvy on Sept 21, 2024 21:32:38 GMT 1
Anyone remember the film Space Jam? Where the NBA players had all their talent stolen from them, and it was like they'd never met each other and had never seen a basketball before?
Yeah. That felt like Town today, just with a football
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Post by space hardware on Sept 21, 2024 21:36:07 GMT 1
Anyone remember the film Space Jam? Where the NBA players had all their talent stolen from them, and it was like they'd never met each other and had never seen a basketball before? Yeah. That felt like Town today, just with a football It's felt like that since the start of the 2018/19 season, barring the weird times under Corberan, when we got to the play off final. |
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Post by Dillinger on Sept 21, 2024 21:41:37 GMT 1
A bad day at the office.
The ridiculous first goal changed the trajectory of the game in their favour, where it stayed until 75mins. Had that self-inflicted gunshot wound not happened, I think we'd have gone on to win - they weren't in the game until then.
After they scored, we were panicked and never regained any composure.
Midfield needs a shake up. Wiles doesn't work hard enough for me, and has too little impact on games. Evans I get because of his set pieces, but I think Kane and Hodge deserve starts, both looked good today when they came on.
Hodge going looking for the ball in deep midfield is something we have missed, and I think the sort of pass that Kane produced for the assist is something we have been lacking too.
I like Headley, but I thought he was awful today, we really missed Miller.
Frustrating yes, end of the world no.
Need to put it behind us very quickly, on to Blackpool.
UTT
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Post by shawsie on Sept 21, 2024 21:42:14 GMT 1
P155ing about at the back yet again. Did they forget what happened to Bolton last weekend? Or not watch Barnsley get pumped in midweek trying to do something similar? Helik has looked off it, Headley is slower than dial-up, and - when it's the 82nd minute and chasing a game - a proper striker puts his laces through that pen. Best moment was at 0-3 when we where attempting to go forward and someone shouted "Nicholls is on" Wasn't worth the 4hr round trip and delays because part of the 62 is shut, thats for sure! Not sure we pissed about at the back that much if im honest - we were just miles off it and flat from start to finish, back to front and that rests with the manager for me. Really disappointed with headley - yet another opportunity spurned and not good enough, wiles - invisible again when it gets tough and sorenson, helik and lees had shockers by their standards. To be fair the awful pen kind of summed the day up.......first one in years at home and a dreadful miss! Some home truths hopefully delivered and a better tues incoming.....if not then it will be a rather unpleasant atmosphere methinks. |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 21:46:21 GMT 1
Terrible performance. I'm incandescent. Complacency? Who knows but we certainly did not help ourselves with poor passing, poor possession and terrible decision making from the off. OK the first goal is comedic but it should not have been as fatal as it turned out to be, the game is still there to be won. We continue our poor passing, possession and decision making and it's 2 nil, although is it such a good shot that Nicholls remains rooted to the spot? The most infuriating thing in the 1st half is that we keep making stupid fouls in and around the Northampton box letting them ease the pressure. 2nd half is better but alas still not good enough, still too many misplaced passes and not enough invention to break Northampton down. Fair play to Northampton there were 3 times when their defence made crucial blocks to save certain Town goals. The 3rd goal, I need to see it again to check gor the foul but if there isn't a foul that's cat piss defending from Sorensen. The crazy happenings around the 80 minute mark, swung the game finally out of our reach. Koroma scores and immediately we get a pen, a golden opportunity, here is where I have to take issue with the ref. If it's a 2nd yellow, then why the delay? Book him and get him sent off? The delay is probably fatal, Koroma has too much time to think and loses his focus and concentration and hits a crap penalty,one we've waited 3 years for!!! Those defending the ref, give your head a shake, he's had a shocker, how can he give a corner when Koroma clearly headed wide? That wasn't the only thing either, he gave Northampton a corner when it wasn't and the penalty delay was criminal. Am I the only one who found that Koroma header embarrassing ? A really good chance and he heads it more or less vertically off the TOP of his head. Amusing when he mocked his own heading ability after he scored his first ever headed goal the other week, but bloody awful when you think he's supposed to me a Division 1 professional striker. Came at him really quick over the head of a defender and he was outside the post. Unless I’m thinking of a different moment it wasn’t easy at all. |
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Post by htafcdreams on Sept 21, 2024 21:47:14 GMT 1
Struggle with the Hodge looked good then by fans
Lad spent most of his time passing it amongst the back three and keep going deep in last 15 mins of the game when Northampton were sat in their half wanting to time waste and not attack
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 21:51:34 GMT 1
Anyone remember the film Space Jam? Where the NBA players had all their talent stolen from them, and it was like they'd never met each other and had never seen a basketball before? Yeah. That felt like Town today, just with a football It's felt like that since the start of the 2018/19 season, barring the weird times under Corberan, when we got to the play off final. Even that season was pretty shite really. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 21, 2024 21:54:44 GMT 1
Kane may lack pace, but he uses space well and looks to create.
The only midfielder I’ve seen play for us that does this since AM.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 21:55:39 GMT 1
It's felt like that since the start of the 2018/19 season, barring the weird times under Corberan, when we got to the play off final. Even that season was pretty shite really. Coming to the realisation that we have been starved of anything approaching quality football my entire adult life. Apart from a few games in the 2016/17 season we are perennially rubbish. We never dominate anyone, we’re always there for the taking, brittle. Really disappointed with today, it’s killed my hope for the season 😔 |
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Post by htafcdreams on Sept 21, 2024 21:57:58 GMT 1
Need to drop this 3 at the back. Any team with half decent players with pace all they have to do is drop it down the sides and we are fkd Lees can't run, helik is positionaly poor we have tried this lots and failed. Need to go to a back 4 Three at the back is absolutely terrible We slowly pass it about, gets to wing back, Headley and Lasse couldn’t get past anyone Wiles / Evans playing hide and seek Hogg never suits picking up the ball with back to goal and has to turn Wingbacks neutralised and we look dire The big worry for me is Duffs tactical inability, plan A or plan A Why don’t we go 4 at back, get another midfielder in to pick ball up deep, overload midfield abit, can always put Hogg in middle of back 2 to create a 3 at back. Try Ladapo + quick player (no corpse Radulavic) and try to win headers and quick player run on to it Radulavic and Ladapo looks stupid. They stand miles apart and both fair crap outside the box The worry is Duff managerially is as ridged at his Tate and Lyle wardrobe |
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Post by space hardware on Sept 21, 2024 22:00:21 GMT 1
Even that season was pretty shite really. Coming to the realisation that we have been starved of anything approaching quality football my entire adult life. Apart from a few games in the 2016/17 season we are perennially rubbish. We never dominate anyone, we’re always there for the taking, brittle. Really disappointed with today, it’s killed my hope for the season 😔 We were fucking brilliant in the 2016/17 season. Primarily because of Aaron Mooy. |
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Post by bogart on Sept 21, 2024 22:00:54 GMT 1
What with all the slagging off regards this player,that player I am surprised Lees has got off so lightly. Probably made two half hearted challenges all match,could not pass to his granny if she was in the next wheelchair. Fuck me waste of space.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 22:01:32 GMT 1
Coming to the realisation that we have been starved of anything approaching quality football my entire adult life. Apart from a few games in the 2016/17 season we are perennially rubbish. We never dominate anyone, we’re always there for the taking, brittle. Really disappointed with today, it’s killed my hope for the season 😔 We were fucking brilliant in the 2016/17 season. Primarily because of Aaron Mooy. I’ve got a signed/framed picture of him in my house |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 22:03:55 GMT 1
Even that season was pretty shite really. Coming to the realisation that we have been starved of anything approaching quality football my entire adult life. Apart from a few game in the 2016/17 season we are perennially rubbish. We never dominate anyone, we’re always there for the taking, brittle. Really disappointed with today, it’s killed my hope for the season 😔 Yes I was sadly hoping for a good season. Losing by the odd goal at home to the likes of Northampton in a match where we miss chances, hit the woodwork, great saves etc and then a breakaway snatch goal I could live with. But being outmuscled, outplayed, out thought tactically and basically well beaten by a club that will finish mid table at best, is bloody depressing. |
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Post by bogart on Sept 21, 2024 22:06:03 GMT 1
Who lost at home last week to Wycombe.Sorry Wycombe fans
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 21, 2024 22:06:18 GMT 1
Ref was poor, but not the reason we lost.
Town need to wake up to the fact this is L1 and officials will be reffing here based on their competency.
We need to perform in such a fashion that the officials don’t figure in the outcome of too many games this season.
If you asked me to sum up HTFC in one word for the last 10yrs (or what feels like that long), it would be inconsistent.
There’s definitely a team in there that’s capable of challenging this season, it just needs to turn up from time to time…
Don’t ask me why, but the way our defence are playing it feels like there’s a problem back office, or with coaching or something. They don’t look like they’re enjoying any games. It might help if we start putting decent set pieces in for Helik and others to have a few chances of a goal, but I’m not sure we have any sort of clue, or a ball player who can whip those sort of crosses in, Evans certainly isn’t the answer, so we’re probably going to be heavily reliant on Miller if he stays fit.
Thank goodness they have a chance to put this right quickly.
UTT!!!
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 21, 2024 22:14:05 GMT 1
What with all the slagging off regards this player,that player I am surprised Lees has got off so lightly. Probably made two half hearted challenges all match,could not pass to his granny if she was in the next wheelchair. Fuck me waste of space. Needs replacing by Spencer. That would give us two fast centre halves and stop us getting caught out so often. Lees and Pearson are just too slow to play a high line so far from their own goal. |
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Post by Sio on Sept 21, 2024 22:16:54 GMT 1
That is the worst I’ve felt watching/leaving a Town match since play-off final. I could forgive them the last couple of seasons because I thought they just weren’t good enough, and think most would agree. This season though, we’re supposed to be better. Posh and Bolton results suggested we might be, but we’ve now had three very unconvincing home league performances in a row which culminated in that shit show. A proper team could cope with the debacle that was their first goal. But no, as usual, heads go down and players start hiding. Even when given a huge get out of jail card - penalty, 10 men and potentially 12 mins to find an equaliser - we cock that up too. That midfield three doesn’t work. We don’t need three centre halves. We’ve got rid of our wingers. Two points a game prob gets you promoted, but they were miles off today and the inconsistency is a huge worry. Not good enough. I'm the same - I felt at a complete loss with it as I was walking to my car. It's always felt like we would somehow bounce back from all the misery over the past 6-7 years but today was a serious low point and I'm struggling to see how this crop of players achieves much more than mid-table. I mean no disrespect to Northampton but you could see/hear how big of a win they saw today as. Their third goal scorer giving it large in front of the South Stand, their fans in absolute raptures for their second etc. Total embarrassment. The boos at half time were louder than when we got relegated. You could feel the anger today. |
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