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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 21, 2024 22:30:37 GMT 1
Struggle with the Hodge looked good then by fans Lad spent most of his time passing it amongst the back three and keep going deep in last 15 mins of the game when Northampton were sat in their half wanting to time waste and not attack The irony of this coming from a guy who clearly loves Hogg. Hodge did not do what you said at all. If you can’t see what he offered then I think you need to go to a famous opticians. |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 22:37:55 GMT 1
That is the worst I’ve felt watching/leaving a Town match since play-off final. I could forgive them the last couple of seasons because I thought they just weren’t good enough, and think most would agree. This season though, we’re supposed to be better. Posh and Bolton results suggested we might be, but we’ve now had three very unconvincing home league performances in a row which culminated in that shit show. A proper team could cope with the debacle that was their first goal. But no, as usual, heads go down and players start hiding. Even when given a huge get out of jail card - penalty, 10 men and potentially 12 mins to find an equaliser - we cock that up too. That midfield three doesn’t work. We don’t need three centre halves. We’ve got rid of our wingers. Two points a game prob gets you promoted, but they were miles off today and the inconsistency is a huge worry. Not good enough. I'm the same - I felt at a complete loss with it as I was walking to my car. It's always felt like we would somehow bounce back from all the misery over the past 6-7 years but today was a serious low point and I'm struggling to see how this crop of players achieves much more than mid-table. I mean no disrespect to Northampton but you could see/hear how big of a win they saw today as. Their third goal scorer giving it large in front of the South Stand, their fans in absolute raptures for their second etc. Total embarrassment. The boos at half time were louder than when we got relegated. You could feel the anger today. It wasn't just about today. We've had years of watching that type of shit, our home form since 2017 must be the worst in the entire league. How many times did we conceded 4 at home last year? We thought dropping down might at least give us some respite from that shit. But NO. We are just watching the same old shite but now in the 3rd tier. When will it fucking end?? |
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Post by htafcdreams on Sept 21, 2024 22:41:23 GMT 1
Struggle with the Hodge looked good then by fans Lad spent most of his time passing it amongst the back three and keep going deep in last 15 mins of the game when Northampton were sat in their half wanting to time waste and not attack The irony of this coming from a guy who clearly loves Hogg. Hodge did not do what you said at all. If you can’t see what he offered then I think you need to go to a famous opticians. Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 22:42:51 GMT 1
I'm the same - I felt at a complete loss with it as I was walking to my car. It's always felt like we would somehow bounce back from all the misery over the past 6-7 years but today was a serious low point and I'm struggling to see how this crop of players achieves much more than mid-table. I mean no disrespect to Northampton but you could see/hear how big of a win they saw today as. Their third goal scorer giving it large in front of the South Stand, their fans in absolute raptures for their second etc. Total embarrassment. The boos at half time were louder than when we got relegated. You could feel the anger today. It wasn't just about today. We've had years of watching that type of shit, our home form since 2017 must be the worst in the entire league. How many times did we conceded 4 at home last year? We thought dropping down might at least give us some respite from that shit. But NO. We are just watching the same old shite but now in the 3rd tier. When will it fucking end?? Sure I read somewhere that our goal difference since 2018 was the worst in professional football in Europe. No one can say we don’t suffer |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 21, 2024 22:44:07 GMT 1
The irony of this coming from a guy who clearly loves Hogg. Hodge did not do what you said at all. If you can’t see what he offered then I think you need to go to a famous opticians. Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh Are you trying to be intentionally different? It was so obvious from his first 5 minutes that Hodge has more than any of the others. I struggle to see what town fans see, then again efesodge said Headley would be a championship player lol |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 22:50:24 GMT 1
It wasn't just about today. We've had years of watching that type of shit, our home form since 2017 must be the worst in the entire league. How many times did we conceded 4 at home last year? We thought dropping down might at least give us some respite from that shit. But NO. We are just watching the same old shite but now in the 3rd tier. When will it fucking end?? Sure I read somewhere that our goal difference since 2018 was the worst in professional football in Europe. No one can say we don’t suffer Even when we went to the prem it was negative. Controversial opinion, but the negativity of Wagner in the second PL season hangs over this club like the sword of Damocles, and the link to the current team is Jonny Hogg. |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 22:51:14 GMT 1
Sure I read somewhere that our goal difference since 2018 was the worst in professional football in Europe. No one can say we don’t suffer Even when we went to the prem it was negative. Controversial opinion, but the negativity of Wagner in the second PL season hangs over this club like the sword of Damocles, and the link to the current team is Jonny Hogg. Don’t disagree. |
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Post by Sio on Sept 21, 2024 22:55:45 GMT 1
The irony of this coming from a guy who clearly loves Hogg. Hodge did not do what you said at all. If you can’t see what he offered then I think you need to go to a famous opticians. Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh You have got to be kidding |
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Post by terrier17 on Sept 21, 2024 23:03:12 GMT 1
Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh You have got to be kidding Ignore him, he’s talking shite! |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 23:08:09 GMT 1
I’m his biggest fan but Helik needs dropping for Tuesday night. Today was an awful performance from him and despite him arguably being our best player i think it would send a message with regard to performance levels. Pearson deserves to play as well.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 21, 2024 23:09:53 GMT 1
The irony of this coming from a guy who clearly loves Hogg. Hodge did not do what you said at all. If you can’t see what he offered then I think you need to go to a famous opticians. Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh Jesus wept. For a start he moved. He made himself available for a pass. I could go on but I don't want to batter Hogg when he's played here so long. He shouldn't be here now though, he shouldn't be playing every week, and he shouldn't be captain. How many times in the last few years have things started to go wrong and just keep going wrong because we panic and there's nobody on the pitch to calm things down and settle the players down. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 21, 2024 23:12:45 GMT 1
The irony of this coming from a guy who clearly loves Hogg. Hodge did not do what you said at all. If you can’t see what he offered then I think you need to go to a famous opticians. Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh He absolutely wasn't. |
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Post by wildhogg on Sept 21, 2024 23:25:46 GMT 1
Starting Hoggy means starting every game on the back foot and with a cautious, ponderous mindset. He surely can't continue to be in the XI every game when we have the likes of Hodge and Kane warming the bench. He should be coming on to help shore things up in games we're narrowly winning, nothing more. Once the ridiculous own-goal went in we couldn't bring ourselves back to life, primarily because there was absolutely no 'go forward'.
Northampton were good today and Mbete looks like a decent player now, so fair play to him. However, there's a pattern building of us looking great against the better teams in the league but then looking discombobulated and non-plussed against the lesser-lights; who primarily look to shut the door and try to nick something.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 21, 2024 23:31:13 GMT 1
Hodge was a mirror of Hogg tbh He absolutely wasn't. No he wasn't he had a shot on goal for a start. This is Hoggs record at our club in his 11th season. Played 381 Goals 5 Assists 9 Watford got shut after about 89 games, no goals why? |
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Post by terrierneil on Sept 21, 2024 23:44:10 GMT 1
I think the third goal may be worse that the first. Weak as fuck.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 21, 2024 23:52:20 GMT 1
I think we need to get used to this as it won't be the last time it happens this season.
These players are capable of winning plenty of games but they're also capable of looking like they've never played football before. While I don't completely agree with Duff's tactics, he must sit there pulling his hair out watching some of the decisions our players make
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Post by willo on Sept 22, 2024 0:10:54 GMT 1
That is the worst I’ve felt watching/leaving a Town match since play-off final. I could forgive them the last couple of seasons because I thought they just weren’t good enough, and think most would agree. This season though, we’re supposed to be better. Posh and Bolton results suggested we might be, but we’ve now had three very unconvincing home league performances in a row which culminated in that shit show. A proper team could cope with the debacle that was their first goal. But no, as usual, heads go down and players start hiding. Even when given a huge get out of jail card - penalty, 10 men and potentially 12 mins to find an equaliser - we cock that up too. That midfield three doesn’t work. We don’t need three centre halves. We’ve got rid of our wingers. Two points a game prob gets you promoted, but they were miles off today and the inconsistency is a huge worry. Not good enough. I'm the same - I felt at a complete loss with it as I was walking to my car. It's always felt like we would somehow bounce back from all the misery over the past 6-7 years but today was a serious low point and I'm struggling to see how this crop of players achieves much more than mid-table. I mean no disrespect to Northampton but you could see/hear how big of a win they saw today as. Their third goal scorer giving it large in front of the South Stand, their fans in absolute raptures for their second etc. Total embarrassment. The boos at half time were louder than when we got relegated. You could feel the anger today. Very worrying to read. Was going to make the home game v Barnsley a week Saturday my first game of the season but there’ll have to be a big improvement over the next 3 games for that to now happen. |
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Post by Orinoco on Sept 22, 2024 0:15:33 GMT 1
Wonder how many more times Duff wants to try that midfield before it sinks in? Hodge came on and made a difference straight away just like he Did at Rotherham, a lot of that performance is on Duff today I’m afraid. But why change a team that just won 4-0 away at Bolton? Bolton play out from the back, Town just took advantage, come up against a physical side town are screwed, clingers on in squad with a losing mentality unfortunately. |
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Post by Orinoco on Sept 22, 2024 0:17:50 GMT 1
I have it on good authority that Koroma is planning to trial for an NFL team… 😉 Notts Forest Ladies? |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 22, 2024 0:24:12 GMT 1
The amount of people asking for Pearson to play is frightening.
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Post by Orinoco on Sept 22, 2024 0:35:21 GMT 1
What a demise of this club in such a short space of time. Booked a box for boxing day and dreading the score against Stockport County. How the turntables. Boxing Day is a long way off still. Worry about that when you open your Advent calendar 😉 I wonder what size the chocolate will be in the advent calendars?, probably a tweezer job!!, could eat a tub of celebrations whilst having a piss!! |
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Post by terrier86 on Sept 22, 2024 0:44:31 GMT 1
One of those days - everyone wants someone to blame, but let's be honest, 9 of the starting 11 we're poor.
Probably (IMO) only Marshall and Lonwijk had a decent game who started. I think it harsh Marshall was subbed at HT, he would have looked far better playing off Radulovic as a target man.
Both WB very poor, midfield awful (also how set up rather than individual performances). We only brought Spencer on to deal with Taylor after he scored - zero pace in our defence before that.
A lot to blame today, although players should take blame, so should the coaching staff.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 22, 2024 0:52:39 GMT 1
I have it on good authority that Koroma is planning to trial for an NFL team… 😉 Notts Forest Ladies? No, it was an NFL player who ran for about 80 yards and his own momentum tripped him up about 10 yards from the line. A bit like Josh towards the end of the game today. It’s bizarre that we could go third on Tuesday, considering our stuttering form and with most of our strikers not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo… |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 22, 2024 1:00:12 GMT 1
I don’t know, maybe because he was at fault for both goals. Was he? Lees and Hogg for the 2nd I’m afraid. TBF to Helik, there was a few who are culpable in the 2nd. Why I thought Helik was responsible because he did nothing to close the goal scorer down, just stood there like a statue and watched him take a touch before slotting it home. |
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Post by impact on Sept 22, 2024 1:06:45 GMT 1
The 3rd goal is ruled out 99% of time. He's clipped Lasse's heels. Unfortunately the ref is in a terrible position and made no effort to get in a better one.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 22, 2024 1:52:51 GMT 1
Didn’t want Hogg to start today but the folk blaming him for today’s debacle must have missed another couple of pathetic displays from Wiles and Evans. They’ve played well for 2 halves of football each this season between them. Wiles has been an awful signing in all honesty, doesn’t want to get involved unless Town are massively on top in a game, Evans very much the same. I agree that Evans and Wiles were pathetic, but they definitely aren’t going to be great when Hogg’s first thought is turn and pass backwards. Hogg’s inability to look over his shoulder and to have awareness of what’s around him is embarrassing at this level. At one point today, he took a pass and he looked in a panic to get rid of the ball, it’s like he’s playing against his own shadow, he of course passed it backwards and there wasn’t an opposition player within 10 yards of him. How can any midfielder get on the ball if the playmaker is so limited. It really is time to bench Hogg. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 22, 2024 2:44:02 GMT 1
I’m his biggest fan but Helik needs dropping for Tuesday night. Today was an awful performance from him and despite him arguably being our best player i think it would send a message with regard to performance levels. Pearson deserves to play as well. Arguably our best player… that right there is our problem, our arguably best player is a CB who can score some goals while our strikers couldn’t, they can’t pass, they are an average at best defender, they also get turned inside out at least once a game and they are slow. Better off with a dummy as our CB. |
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Post by belizian on Sept 22, 2024 6:09:19 GMT 1
The manager needs to go back to sitting in the stands where he can get a better view of the overall game. He obviously couldn't see what was happening at the other side of the pitch in the first half yesterday because Headley was having a 'mare and he left him on at half-time. I don't think he offers anything stood at the side, far too quiet, better with the assistant manager (who looks like you wouldn't like to cross him) stood bollocking the nearby players.
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 22, 2024 6:39:16 GMT 1
All the obvious points have been stated about that horror show.
Let’s see what Duff can do when under some pressure. There are least 4 players that should be lucky to make the bench.
Helik, Hogg, Headley and Sorensen.
Losing them 4 ruins his only tactical way of playing. Will he change it or start down the route of square pegs in round holes ?
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Post by potlessphil on Sept 22, 2024 6:48:49 GMT 1
Where to start...
Duff tactically got it wrong
It didn't take a genius to know against sides outside the top 8 we don't need Hogg in there, we need a ball playing midfielder in Kane.
For me, we wouldn't have renewed his contract. Perenial loser and offers little to nothing at this stage - in fact holds back the side.
Behind Spencer, Helik has been our worst performer all season. Looks like another perennial loser, 3 relegation scraps in 3 years with him in the centre of town/Barnsley defences.
Helik looks slow even in League 1! Been done on countless occasions, as has Lees and Pearson. Unbelievably slow back 3.
Headley - Looks championship standard under NW. Now looks like another of the long list of athletes, not a footballer. Absolutely abysmal today again. Scared to take on his man.
Sorrenson - Lightweight, couldn't take on his man, poor delivery, offered nothing again. Had 2 good games all season. League 1 level at best.
Hogg - Said it already. Legs gone. offers nothing. perennial loser. Not required in a team pushing for promotion in league 1 with the options wasted on the bench.
Wiles - Absolute ghost yet again. Coward of a player, no pace, cant tackle, goes missing. Passenger. Evans; not much better and offered nothing.
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The ref I thought did alright. Didn't think it was a foul for their third and he rightly gave a penalty where most refs wouldn't have given that to us.
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Kane - Glad he finally got minutes. HHas to start the next game replacing Hogg. It simply has to be a more positive line up.
Hodge - Came on an got our first shot on target after 61 minutes. Looked to play the ball forward, not backwards. I like what I've seen. Has to start in place of Wiles.
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Really disappointing season yet again. I think we've been poor all season, even at Peterborough.
The wing back system fails if Headley cant take on his man and doens't offer anything going forward.
Sorrenson is anonymous too.
Therein leaves our CM to create when we know Hogg wont pass it forward, Wiles is a ghost and Evans has massively flattered to deceive.
It's a big problem.
For Blackpool I'd go with...
3-5-2
---------------------Nicholls----------------
----------Pearson -- Lonwijk -- Lees -------
Sorrenson ---------------------------------- Koroma
----------- Evans -- Kane -- Hodge ---------
----------- Ladapo ---- Marshall -------------
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