Fan being chucked out on Saturday - appeal

[spyinthesky]

Nov 23, 2011 23:47:11 GMT 1 otium (EPBS) said:

Listen, i understand your frustrations. I dont have a problem with standing (if safely managed and in a purpose-built area).
I sincerely believe the Hillsboro disaster was caused by both fans AND the Police not to mention the antiquated way clubs treated fans back then.
To not put any blame on fans is like trying to say Heysel was caused by a ticketing error!!
With proper ticketing, Policing and adequate crush barriers and penning then standing would be fine.
Lets look at it from another view.
Its a form of entertainment, you have a seat and if you stand up/jump/move i (and many others including old-folk and kids) miss the goals/shots etc.
I want to pinch a million pounds from the bank but i realise that if you give you get. Its called society, its one of the few things that seperates us from the animals.
I dont throw litter in the street, park illegally or avoid my taxes.
We have rules for reasons. Stop bleating about getting thrown out for standing or do something about it.
To claim that i am disrespecting dead football fans is the type of mud-slinging tosh that now pervades society. Racist, homophobe PC nonsense.
In standing up in front of others you are disrespecting them!!!!

Nothing separates us from what we(even you) are

[hightownterrier]

The problem with persistant standing at football grounds will never be solved till all the inconsistancy surrounding and implimenting the rules are clarified.

If persistant standing in a seated area of a stadium is not breaking the law, then it needs to be made so. Hopefully this would lead to a uniform set of rules and procedures for dealing with the problem and a more uniform treatment by stewards through out grounds.
This from my experience is the main cause of the problem.

Went to Bellend road 2 years ago. The stewards were very aggresive in telling town fans to sit down while 10 yrds to our left the weeds fans seemed to get away with standing nearly all game. This obviously iritated and annoyed the town fans and did not help the situation.

Last year went to the emirates and after the game kicked off everybody was still standing. I could not believe it when a steward came up to me and told me to pick my 4yr old sun up and stand him on the seat if he couldn't see. Then after 10 mins the stewards came to the front of the crowd and asked everybody politely to sit down because the people at the back couldn't see. Guess what? everybody sat down.

Went to old trafford last year and 3 lads stood persistantly throughout the first half about 4 rows in front of me, my young son and my . People infront were complain to stewards but nothing was done. My son couldn't see because he was too small, my old man couldn't be standing up and sitting all the time. Eventually I lost my rag and told them to sit down and show some respect, we hadn't forked out godnows how much to luck at the back of there heads for 90 mins. Things got a bit heated but they sat down eventually and afterwards I was not proud of my behaviour in front of my son and my . I am pretty sure that those 3 would have sat down a lot sooner if they knew they could have been arrested.

[yoho]

Nov 26, 2011 13:35:25 GMT 1 hightownterrier said:

The problem with persistant standing at football grounds will never be solved till all the inconsistancy surrounding and implimenting the rules are clarified.

If persistant standing in a seated area of a stadium is not breaking the law, then it needs to be made so. Hopefully this would lead to a uniform set of rules and procedures for dealing with the problem and a more uniform treatment by stewards through out grounds.
This from my experience is the main cause of the problem.

Went to Bellend road 2 years ago. The stewards were very aggresive in telling town fans to sit down while 10 yrds to our left the weeds fans seemed to get away with standing nearly all game. This obviously iritated and annoyed the town fans and did not help the situation.

Last year went to the emirates and after the game kicked off everybody was still standing. I could not believe it when a steward came up to me and told me to pick my 4yr old sun up and stand him on the seat if he couldn't see. Then after 10 mins the stewards came to the front of the crowd and asked everybody politely to sit down because the people at the back couldn't see. Guess what? everybody sat down.

Went to old trafford last year and 3 lads stood persistantly throughout the first half about 4 rows in front of me, my young son and my . People infront were complain to stewards but nothing was done. My son couldn't see because he was too small, my old man couldn't be standing up and sitting all the time. Eventually I lost my rag and told them to sit down and show some respect, we hadn't forked out godnows how much to luck at the back of there heads for 90 mins. Things got a bit heated but they sat down eventually and afterwards I was not proud of my behaviour in front of my son and my . I am pretty sure that those 3 would have sat down a lot sooner if they knew they could have been arrested.

So you think it will be ok to get a criminal record for standing If this was for real we will not need stewards just loads of police to enforce this idiotic law

This is why we need safe standing so the fans who like to stand can and the fans who like to sit can problem solved ::

[Deleted]

It is quite rediculous to suggest or even contemplate a law requiring sitting at a football match. There is no evidence of there being any risk to people standing up in all seater stadia.
It would be far better if the ticket contract stated that; if seating is provided, then those wishing to sit and view have the right to that view not being persistently obstructed by people standing etc. That deals with the issue of sitters getting what they pay for & being respected by others, while allowing standers to get what they prefer, which would be to congregate away from sitters and stand. At the interface there will be people who are flexible and do some of both according to the flow of the game and reactions to it. Simples

The law probably allows this as it is if one chooses to interpret the Health & Safety legislation in a sensible way, instead of the 'jobs worth' way - or whatever their rediculous attitude is to H&S when in charge of it (Common sense goes out off the window for some reason).

[Deleted]

On reflection, I will go further. Risk assesments do not need evidence of injury to people, it is a consideration of 'Potencial to Cause Harm' (extract from HSE). The current risk assesment is clearly flawed. It is said that persistent standing is not allowed according to the H&S Committee. Standing up in excuberence at moments of exitement is allowed; Standing on mass to exit all together at the end of a match is allowed; Standing to allow someone to pass to go for a drink or to the loo is allowed; Standing by the Stewards and Police and those arond giving access to eject someone is allowed; All of which being allowed by the H&S Committee becuse ther would be uproar if it was suggested that they could not be allowed. It is clearly less of a risk to stand still watching a football match than to do any of the others, but becuase you have a seat provided and standing might obstruct someones view behind you, it is claimed (clealry incorrectly) that is is a risk to safety and is in the ticket contract and ground regulations for that reason - to prevent it. When regulations can clearly be seen to lack credability they will invitably cause conflict becuase some will wish to ignor the illogical . That inevitably results in enforcment attempts by both the sitters and the stewards, and eforcment application by the Police (apperently) all of which create a greater H&S risk than just standing watching football, in a friendly respectfull way to those arond you as would result from credible regulations based on (right to a seated view with option to stand if preferred as long as you do not persistently obstruct a seated persons view). It will take time for people to regroup through changing their season ticket seating locations, and away ticketing is emmediatly resolved by asking all purchasers preferance.
1) sitter, front
2) stander, back
3) up & downer middle
Conflict resolved.

And to conclude, the current Government have stated that they want to see the end of these illogical H&S interpretations which prevent reasonable participation in life! The opportunity is now clearly there to change this.

[hightownterrier]

Sorry I am new to this posting lark previous post should have read.
If persistant standing in a seated area of a stadium is not breaking the law, then 'perhaps' it should be.
This by the way is not something I believe is a good idea, i am simply suggesting a possible solution to the problem of people persistantly standing where they should be sitting down.
Anyhow it provoked more debate on the subject which is good.

The point i was trying to make is that all the iconsistancy and gray areas around the subject need to be cleared up if there is ever going to be a solution to the problem.

I am not against standing at football grounds in a suitable area. Standing does definately add to the atmosphere and i would probably choose to stand, if i had the choice to do so safely.
The point is we don't have the choice and standing in a seated area of a stadium is unsafe.

In these days of health and safety legislation I can't see it ever being allowed that you can stand in a seated area of a stadium, so simply standing to defy legislation could probably lead to such a silly idea being made law.

[spyinthesky]

Standing at times of exciting moments is permitted whilst persistant standing is not, god forbid that a whole game could be exciting.

The safety case is seriously flawed as surely it is safer to stand during moments of dull play.

Does persistant standing also include the many times that you have to stand to let the early leavers pass.

[Fantastic Mediocre]

....and LATE arrivers!!! :ranting:

[Deleted]

And because the tw@ in front won't siddarn. ;D

[jakehtafc]

Good Afternoon,

I am writing to you to voice my concerns about the stewarding and atmosphere at the Galpharm Stadium.

From a personal level i am very close friends with the young lad who was thrown out against Notts County last saturday. I was sat next to him and believe what happened to him was an absolute disgrace. I Re-call Dean Hoyle stating " You buy your seats, We will get you out of them". During the first 10-15 Minutes of the game i would say around 1000 fans were standing in the Britannia Rescue "singing Section" making as requested by the Players, Manager and chairmen of Huddersfield Town an atmosphere to spur the lads on.

We were all asked to sit down, Strangely from the middle of the stand and not the front. We sat down for a while but the could not see the action as people from the front row upwards were standing. We again stood up. Not with the intention of ignoring the stewards but so we could see the game and sing the songs we believe create and atmosphere and i repeat again which has been noted to influence the players. On around the 15 minute mark, a steward pointed to Matty out to the police and asked for him to be ejected from the ground. It looked from the policemans slow reaction he believed this was unfair. At this particular time i was stood up and Matty was sat down however the Policeman moved past me and proceeded to eject Matty from the ground Stating " The steward has requested you leave the ground for standing". I do not know why the steward picked Matty out of around a 1000 and especially when he was sat down. Matty left without fuss which was difficult as everyone was holding him back and arguing with the police. This could of turned ugly as tempers were running high as the lad had not done anything wrong.

At half time me and a friend asked if we could speak to the steward who had pointed Matty out. We asked him to come outside so we could speak to him so he could air his views on what had happended. He wouldnt speak to us and kept walking away even though he requested 2 police officers were present so that nothing would happen. He persisntantly asked for our names whilst wlaking away. We simply wanted to now why he had ejected Matty from the ground and also why he had picked him out from a 1000 people all standing up.

During my 16 years watching Huddersfield i have always been told to get behind the team whether we are doing well or not. Been a Huddersfield Town fan in the past has been hard with not many Ups but an awful lot of downs. However at this moment in time I am proud of what Lee Clark, Dean Hoyle and some of the best players i have ever seen at this club are doing. We have Beaten Brian Cloughs Nottingham Forests League record which is a tremendous acheivedment and Matty wasnt allowed to Witness this. My worry is that if we achieve our goal or promotion are we going to be allowed to stand up and celebrate this?

Many away teams come to Huddersfield and stand up throughout the game very rarely they are challenged. My question is why is it always home fans who suffer at Huddersfield? We travel up and down the country to smaller away grounds and we never have the hassle we suffer at home. Away stewards are happy for us to stand aslong as we are not putting others are risk.

On saturday a fellow fan Russ Abbott has stated he will never set foot in the Galpharm Stadium. This is a man who has followed town all over the country for probably 40-50 years. He is the one who we all look to as Mr Huddersfield Town. I am saddened by his statement but believe many will start to follow him if this type of stewarding continues at the Galpharm Stadium,

I await your reply,

Jake

A very saddened and dissapointed Huddersfield Fan.

[huddstownjimmymac]

Nov 27, 2011 16:58:41 GMT 1 jakehtafc said:

Good Afternoon,

I am writing to you to voice my concerns about the stewarding and atmosphere at the Galpharm Stadium.

From a personal level i am very close friends with the young lad who was thrown out against Notts County last saturday. I was sat next to him and believe what happened to him was an absolute disgrace. I Re-call Dean Hoyle stating " You buy your seats, We will get you out of them". During the first 10-15 Minutes of the game i would say around 1000 fans were standing in the Britannia Rescue "singing Section" making as requested by the Players, Manager and chairmen of Huddersfield Town an atmosphere to spur the lads on.

We were all asked to sit down, Strangely from the middle of the stand and not the front. We sat down for a while but the could not see the action as people from the front row upwards were standing. We again stood up. Not with the intention of ignoring the stewards but so we could see the game and sing the songs we believe create and atmosphere and i repeat again which has been noted to influence the players. On around the 15 minute mark, a steward pointed to Matty out to the police and asked for him to be ejected from the ground. It looked from the policemans slow reaction he believed this was unfair. At this particular time i was stood up and Matty was sat down however the Policeman moved past me and proceeded to eject Matty from the ground Stating " The steward has requested you leave the ground for standing". I do not know why the steward picked Matty out of around a 1000 and especially when he was sat down. Matty left without fuss which was difficult as everyone was holding him back and arguing with the police. This could of turned ugly as tempers were running high as the lad had not done anything wrong.

At half time me and a friend asked if we could speak to the steward who had pointed Matty out. We asked him to come outside so we could speak to him so he could air his views on what had happended. He wouldnt speak to us and kept walking away even though he requested 2 police officers were present so that nothing would happen. He persisntantly asked for our names whilst wlaking away. We simply wanted to now why he had ejected Matty from the ground and also why he had picked him out from a 1000 people all standing up.

During my 16 years watching Huddersfield i have always been told to get behind the team whether we are doing well or not. Been a Huddersfield Town fan in the past has been hard with not many Ups but an awful lot of downs. However at this moment in time I am proud of what Lee Clark, Dean Hoyle and some of the best players i have ever seen at this club are doing. We have Beaten Brian Cloughs Nottingham Forests League record which is a tremendous acheivedment and Matty wasnt allowed to Witness this. My worry is that if we achieve our goal or promotion are we going to be allowed to stand up and celebrate this?

Many away teams come to Huddersfield and stand up throughout the game very rarely they are challenged. My question is why is it always home fans who suffer at Huddersfield? We travel up and down the country to smaller away grounds and we never have the hassle we suffer at home. Away stewards are happy for us to stand aslong as we are not putting others are risk.

On saturday a fellow fan Russ Abbott has stated he will never set foot in the Galpharm Stadium. This is a man who has followed town all over the country for probably 40-50 years. He is the one who we all look to as Mr Huddersfield Town. I am saddened by his statement but believe many will start to follow him if this type of stewarding continues at the Galpharm Stadium,

I await your reply,

Jake

A very saddened and dissapointed Huddersfield Fan.

next home game important as it is,i will be in skegness collecting my caravan :'(stuff the stewards and the heavy handed police tactics just for standing up with like minded people and trying to create a atmosphere just like the 1 russ abbott used to do lol.... :celebrate: :celebrate: :dance: :dance: :dance: :udders: :udders: :dance: :wave2:

[huddstownjimmymac]

Nov 27, 2011 16:58:41 GMT 1 jakehtafc said:

Good Afternoon,

I am writing to you to voice my concerns about the stewarding and atmosphere at the Galpharm Stadium.

From a personal level i am very close friends with the young lad who was thrown out against Notts County last saturday. I was sat next to him and believe what happened to him was an absolute disgrace. I Re-call Dean Hoyle stating " You buy your seats, We will get you out of them". During the first 10-15 Minutes of the game i would say around 1000 fans were standing in the Britannia Rescue "singing Section" making as requested by the Players, Manager and chairmen of Huddersfield Town an atmosphere to spur the lads on.

We were all asked to sit down, Strangely from the middle of the stand and not the front. We sat down for a while but the could not see the action as people from the front row upwards were standing. We again stood up. Not with the intention of ignoring the stewards but so we could see the game and sing the songs we believe create and atmosphere and i repeat again which has been noted to influence the players. On around the 15 minute mark, a steward pointed to Matty out to the police and asked for him to be ejected from the ground. It looked from the policemans slow reaction he believed this was unfair. At this particular time i was stood up and Matty was sat down however the Policeman moved past me and proceeded to eject Matty from the ground Stating " The steward has requested you leave the ground for standing". I do not know why the steward picked Matty out of around a 1000 and especially when he was sat down. Matty left without fuss which was difficult as everyone was holding him back and arguing with the police. This could of turned ugly as tempers were running high as the lad had not done anything wrong.

At half time me and a friend asked if we could speak to the steward who had pointed Matty out. We asked him to come outside so we could speak to him so he could air his views on what had happended. He wouldnt speak to us and kept walking away even though he requested 2 police officers were present so that nothing would happen. He persisntantly asked for our names whilst wlaking away. We simply wanted to now why he had ejected Matty from the ground and also why he had picked him out from a 1000 people all standing up.

During my 16 years watching Huddersfield i have always been told to get behind the team whether we are doing well or not. Been a Huddersfield Town fan in the past has been hard with not many Ups but an awful lot of downs. However at this moment in time I am proud of what Lee Clark, Dean Hoyle and some of the best players i have ever seen at this club are doing. We have Beaten Brian Cloughs Nottingham Forests League record which is a tremendous acheivedment and Matty wasnt allowed to Witness this. My worry is that if we achieve our goal or promotion are we going to be allowed to stand up and celebrate this?

Many away teams come to Huddersfield and stand up throughout the game very rarely they are challenged. My question is why is it always home fans who suffer at Huddersfield? We travel up and down the country to smaller away grounds and we never have the hassle we suffer at home. Away stewards are happy for us to stand aslong as we are not putting others are risk.

On saturday a fellow fan Russ Abbott has stated he will never set foot in the Galpharm Stadium. This is a man who has followed town all over the country for probably 40-50 years. He is the one who we all look to as Mr Huddersfield Town. I am saddened by his statement but believe many will start to follow him if this type of stewarding continues at the Galpharm Stadium,

I await your reply,

Jake

A very saddened and dissapointed Huddersfield Fan.

next home game important as it is,i will be in skegness collecting my caravan :'(stuff the stewards and the heavy handed police tactics just for standing up with like minded people and trying to create a atmosphere just like the 1 russ abbott used to do lol.... :celebrate: :celebrate: :dance: :dance: :dance: :udders: :udders: :dance: :wave2:

[mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours]

Oreeeet Russ Abbot
Regards
Henley

[ShortbreadPete]

Russ Abbot :: :: ::

[jakehtafc]

Was going to put your proper name russ but didnt know if you would want me to. Russ Abbott only other Russ i know haha

[bro600]

I don't think the situation at The Galpharm as anything to do with supporters breaking the regulations or rules it's simply the application of the laws that is so inconsistent it beggars belief.
Some of the stewards at the Galpharm certainly hold grudges and hate the banter they receive from certain sections of the crowd.
On occasions they forget they are stewards and just play at getting their own back.
Sometimes on occasions we've had more police and stewards between the Brittania and The south stand than there as been away supporters.
On more than one occasion in the last 12 months we've had no stewards at the very top of the Brittania stand and then the very next game they are in there saying how important it is we sit down every 2 minutes.
They arrive 15 minutes into the game and disappear 10 minutes before the end , what happens to the safety issue during these 25 minutes?
The policing and stewarding of football matches according to guidelines i've read seem to be categorized the same as the prices are... I can't understand for the life in me why this as to involve a change in the interaction between supporters and officials even before any kind of disorder as happened but this seems to be what happens.
It doesn't have to be the case that just because we are playing Leeds/Sheffield or Bradford the authorities have to become overly active , they should just do their jobs and steward and police.

[pozza]

From my experience when we play a bigger team the stewards are far LESS bothered about standing.

Bradford & PNE there was no attempt at all to get folk to sit. Same with Wednesday & Saints last season.

Seems they only care when there is a smaller amount as its easier to pick out a "victim "

[wottheeck]

wot part of ALL SEATER STADIUM do you not get? And Russ, much as I love you, throwing your teddy out the pram is getting a bit tedius. xxxx

[Deleted]

Nov 29, 2011 1:34:45 GMT 1 wottheeck said:

wot part of ALL SEATER STADIUM do you not get? And Russ, much as I love you, throwing your teddy out the pram is getting a bit tedius. xxxx

I take it you sit down when we score then and vehemently shout at those around you to sit down? The problem is a lack of consistency, common sense and compromise, not people "persistently" standing since 30 seconds could mean persistent to you but 2 minutes could mean persistent to someone else.

[wottheeck]

Nov 29, 2011 1:56:19 GMT 1 @stevros88 said:

Nov 29, 2011 1:34:45 GMT 1 wottheeck said:

wot part of ALL SEATER STADIUM do you not get? And Russ, much as I love you, throwing your teddy out the pram is getting a bit tedius. xxxx

I take it you sit down when we score then and vehemently shout at those around you to sit down? The problem is a lack of consistency, common sense and compromise, not people "persistently" standing since 30 seconds could mean persistent to you but 2 minutes could mean persistent to someone else.

Don't be daft DATM - of course I don't sit down when we score or tell others to do so but my experience is that from the day the Mac opened I had a fab seat in the Kilner Bank stand where the drummer and co now sit and had to move because at least five or six lads stood up in front of us constantly and I didn't fork out for a season ticket to look at their arses for 90 minutes.

[Spunker]

Nov 29, 2011 13:18:12 GMT 1 wottheeck said:

Nov 29, 2011 1:56:19 GMT 1 @stevros88 said:

I take it you sit down when we score then and vehemently shout at those around you to sit down? The problem is a lack of consistency, common sense and compromise, not people "persistently" standing since 30 seconds could mean persistent to you but 2 minutes could mean persistent to someone else.

Don't be daft DATM - of course I don't sit down when we score or tell others to do so but my experience is that from the day the Mac opened I had a fab seat in the Kilner Bank stand where the drummer and co now sit and had to move because at least five or six lads stood up in front of us constantly and I didn't fork out for a season ticket to look at their arses for 90 minutes.

If you don't want to stand up, don't be in the area where lads want to stand.

You don't go to church unless you want to pray.

[wottheeck]

Nov 29, 2011 13:46:18 GMT 1 Spunker said:

Nov 29, 2011 13:18:12 GMT 1 wottheeck said:

Don't be daft DATM - of course I don't sit down when we score or tell others to do so but my experience is that from the day the Mac opened I had a fab seat in the Kilner Bank stand where the drummer and co now sit and had to move because at least five or six lads stood up in front of us constantly and I didn't fork out for a season ticket to look at their arses for 90 minutes.

If you don't want to stand up, don't be in the area where lads want to stand.

You don't go to church unless you want to pray.

Read the post again Spunker. I was there when the Mac opened - they weren't. We had 6 good years in there before they moved in.

[htsa2011]

UPDATE - Thanks to all Town fans who have contacted us to express their concerns about this incident and their views on the wider picture of their match day experience at the stadium. All emails received by HTSA have been passed to the board of directors this morning.

Whilst the club could not comment directly on this case, a meeting has been arranged with the Town fan in question and he will be supported by HTSA. There we will have the opportunity to discuss from both sides what happened.

Looking at the wider picture, HTFC are delighted to receive feedback from Town fans whether it be direct or via HTSA and will endeavour to respond.

With regards to stewarding issues in particular, it would be helpful to both HTSA & HTFC to have SPECIFIC details of incidents so that appropriate investigations/action can be taken.

Thanks again to everyone.

UTT

SK

[ShortbreadPete]

Good work Steve and HTSA

[Deleted]

Dec 1, 2011 16:01:11 GMT 1 htsa2011 said:

UPDATE - Thanks to all Town fans who have contacted us to express their concerns about this incident and their views on the wider picture of their match day experience at the stadium. All emails received by HTSA have been passed to the board of directors this morning.

Whilst the club could not comment directly on this case, a meeting has been arranged with the Town fan in question and he will be supported by HTSA. There we will have the opportunity to discuss from both sides what happened.

Looking at the wider picture, HTFC are delighted to receive feedback from Town fans whether it be direct or via HTSA and will endeavour to respond.

With regards to stewarding issues in particular, it would be helpful to both HTSA & HTFC to have SPECIFIC details of incidents so that appropriate investigations/action can be taken.

Thanks again to everyone.

UTT

SK

I think it may be prudent to ALWAYS complain about stewarding to either HTSA or HTFC. From my experience of dealing with John Robinson directly, he will promise a full investigation, then sweep the issue under the carpet after a couple of weeks.

[Captainslapper]

Nov 29, 2011 22:12:54 GMT 1 wottheeck said:

Nov 29, 2011 13:46:18 GMT 1 Spunker said:

If you don't want to stand up, don't be in the area where lads want to stand.

You don't go to church unless you want to pray.

Read the post again Spunker. I was there when the Mac opened - they weren't. We had 6 good years in there before they moved in.

You are allowed to move you know. The stadium has developed since 1994 and your bit is now an area where people are going to stand up a lot. If thats an issue for you, move into the middle more- its a better view anyway.

Is it really beyond the wit of man to make the last few blocks on the south end of the Kiner a 'stand if you want to' area?
Or to have stewards with a semblance of common sense and understanding.

The club goes on about promoting an atmosphere and attract new fans etc then allows the stewards to do whatever they can to kill the atmosphere and turn people off the club!!
Been happening for years yet HTFC don't seem bothered or able to do anything about it. More interested in getting some Family award.

[wottheeck]

[You are allowed to move you know. The stadium has developed since 1994 and your bit is now an area where people are going to stand up a lot. If thats an issue for you, move into the middle more- its a better view anyway

Read the post again Slapper. We have moved but why should we have had to?

[Captainslapper]

Apologies, you have moved.
Similar thing happened to me really. Used to sit in whats now the 'singing section' but got tired of this idiot behind us ordering everyone to stand up and sing every game so we moved into the middle.

I understand what you're saying in 'why should I have to move' but the world doesn't work like that in reality does it. The stadium atmosphere evolved and that part of the ground changed into something you didn't like so its not really any skin off your nose to move to an area where you feel happier in.
Things change and you have to adapt with it.

[huddstownjimmymac]

Dec 1, 2011 16:01:11 GMT 1 htsa2011 said:

UPDATE - Thanks to all Town fans who have contacted us to express their concerns about this incident and their views on the wider picture of their match day experience at the stadium. All emails received by HTSA have been passed to the board of directors this morning.

Whilst the club could not comment directly on this case, a meeting has been arranged with the Town fan in question and he will be supported by HTSA. There we will have the opportunity to discuss from both sides what happened.

Looking at the wider picture, HTFC are delighted to receive feedback from Town fans whether it be direct or via HTSA and will endeavour to respond.

With regards to stewarding issues in particular, it would be helpful to both HTSA & HTFC to have SPECIFIC details of incidents so that appropriate investigations/action can be taken.

Thanks again to everyone.

UTT

SK

whens the meeting steve?i would like to be present ?some home truths need to be said,,,,, :: :: well done for your hard work in bringing this to the attention of the club!TTID

[huddstownjimmymac]

Dec 3, 2011 13:13:12 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Apologies, you have moved.
Similar thing happened to me really. Used to sit in whats now the 'singing section' but got tired of this idiot behind us ordering everyone to stand up and sing every game so we moved into the middle.

I understand what you're saying in 'why should I have to move' but the world doesn't work like that in reality does it. The stadium atmosphere evolved and that part of the ground changed into something you didn't like so its not really any skin off your nose to move to an area where you feel happier in.
Things change and you have to adapt with it.

come on slapps the fan who was ordering everyone to stand up and sing is not a idiot in my opinion,infact quite the opposite,and we should have thousands more like him in my opinion :nodding: :nodding: :nodding: :nodding: this is a football match we are talking about not for the faint hearted i luv atmosphere,s,,,,,i luv singing for my club,i luv jumping around when we score,i,m not far off 50 years old but i will never change,,,,,,,fanny,s ya aunt bob,s ya uncle.... :udders: :udders: