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Post by htsa2011 on Dec 5, 2011 17:14:17 GMT 1
Just trying to confirm finer detail for the meeting. Unfortunately, we can't allow any additional people to be present.
If you would like Kingy to pass on any information to HTFC or the stadium company, please can you email: chair@htsa-online.co.uk or buzz him on 07753 634298.
Please be assured HTSA & HTFC are working hard on these matters.
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 5, 2011 20:56:22 GMT 1
Apologies, you have moved. Similar thing happened to me really. Used to sit in whats now the 'singing section' but got tired of this idiot behind us ordering everyone to stand up and sing every game so we moved into the middle. I understand what you're saying in 'why should I have to move' but the world doesn't work like that in reality does it. The stadium atmosphere evolved and that part of the ground changed into something you didn't like so its not really any skin off your nose to move to an area where you feel happier in. Things change and you have to adapt with it. come on slapps the fan who was ordering everyone to stand up and sing is not a idiot in my opinion,infact quite the opposite,and we should have thousands more like him in my opinion  this is a football match we are talking about not for the faint hearted  i luv atmosphere,s,,,,,i luv singing for my club,i luv jumping around when we score,i,m not far off 50 years old but i will never change,,,,,,,fanny,s ya aunt bob,s ya uncle....  No mate, this kid was. Atmospheres great i agree, but having someone screaming at you to sing all the time and then generally screaming abuse at anyone who didn't ,was a real pain in the arse and if anything made everyone less likely to stand up and sing as no one wanted the gobby sod to think they were doing as they were told!  |
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Post by supersumit on Dec 6, 2011 20:09:44 GMT 1
Stewarding is simple:
1) Notice the "safety first, no standing" sign at the foot of the singing section
2) Realise this means you need to keep an eye on people standing up when there's no real need for longer than say 10 minutes
3) Where (2) is failed, start from the front of the stand and remind people that they've paid for a seat so should use it where possible for the duration of the match - then work backwards. Maybe with a smile and see what happens
**However, leave this to the stewards - it's bloody annoying when a twat with a kid BEHIND you asks you to stay sat down throughout the game because his kid can't see - surely there's a simple solution there!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 20:38:11 GMT 1
Stewarding is simple: 1) Notice the "safety first, no standing" sign at the foot of the singing section 2) Realise this means you need to keep an eye on people standing up when there's no real need for longer than say 10 minutes 3) Where (2) is failed, start from the front of the stand and remind people that they've paid for a seat so should use it where possible for the duration of the match - then work backwards. Maybe with a smile and see what happens **However, leave this to the stewards - it's bloody annoying when a twat with a kid BEHIND you asks you to stay sat down throughout the game because his kid can't see - surely there's a simple solution there! Yeah of course there is you could move! |
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Post by supersumit on Dec 6, 2011 20:52:41 GMT 1
the majority of the stadium doesn't "suffer" this standing up issue - so the ones with the kids can sit there; otherwise stop moaning about the singing section standing! always plenty of space at the front too...giving you the atmosphere and the view
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 22:22:02 GMT 1
the majority of the stadium doesn't "suffer" this standing up issue - so the ones with the kids can sit there; otherwise stop moaning about the singing section standing! always plenty of space at the front too...giving you the atmosphere and the view Tell you what he could stand in front of you instead problem is his kid still can't see cos of those in front so sits kid on his shoulders like i used to with my kid, happy now? |
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Post by ppolo99 on Dec 8, 2011 17:50:28 GMT 1
shouldn't kids just go in the family stand if they want to sit down? Or don't go in the "standing" bit?
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 9, 2011 17:25:46 GMT 1
shouldn't kids just go in the family stand if they want to sit down? Or don't go in the "standing" bit? Exactly. Don't see why this should even be problem. Have the area as a 'stand if you like' area, then if you don't want to stand for whatever reason, sit somewhere else. Its not like there aren't any empty seats in other parts of the stadium! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 17:47:27 GMT 1
shouldn't kids just go in the family stand if they want to sit down? Or don't go in the "standing" bit? Exactly. Don't see why this should even be problem. Have the area as a 'stand if you like' area, then if you don't want to stand for whatever reason, sit somewhere else. Its not like there aren't any empty seats in other parts of the stadium! Or Don't see why this should even be a problem. Have the area as a 'sit if you like' area, then if you don't want to sit for whatever reason,stand somewhere else. It's not like there aren't any empty seats in other parts of the stadium. :sorry: |
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Post by bluemazubo on Dec 9, 2011 23:46:27 GMT 1
Perhaps a protest at a game could be organized among games where we organize with Away fans to sit in silence at the game until maybe the 10 minute mark, and then go nuts. It worked here at the Stockholm Derby. If we got in-touch with the other club, this could be REALLY successful.
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Post by mezz60 on Dec 10, 2011 13:17:26 GMT 1
thats a really good way to protest, but would probably only work in a televised game.Very effective though
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Post by cheesyhtfc on Dec 10, 2011 14:40:11 GMT 1
Perhaps a protest at a game could be organized among games where we organize with Away fans to sit in silence at the game until maybe the 10 minute mark, and then go nuts. It worked here at the Stockholm Derby. If we got in-touch with the other club, this could be REALLY successful. Town fans have been doing that for years and it hasn't had any effect yet |
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Post by Horney Barry on Dec 10, 2011 19:01:37 GMT 1
Did someone get throw out today?
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Post by stevvy on Dec 10, 2011 19:06:30 GMT 1
Don't know, but saw the stewards trying to get people to sit down again and getting the police involved (also noticed that once again, while trying to get our fans to sit down, the away fans were again treated completely differently, and the fans at the back of the away stand were able to stand all game long with stewards just standing there doing nothing). Basically it was 1 rule for us and 1 rule for the away fans (again).
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Post by marshian on Dec 10, 2011 19:08:32 GMT 1
We gathered from the chanting that someone had probably been chucked out.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Dec 10, 2011 19:13:30 GMT 1
No actually I don't think anyone was thrown out.
From what I could see the stewards tried chucking someone out, but his mates grabbed hold of him and a tug of war fight broke out on the steps. More and more people came over to assist these group of lads and in the end the stewards left it.
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Post by mezz60 on Dec 10, 2011 21:08:03 GMT 1
The stewards were worse than ever today and if they carry on somebody is going to get seriously hurt.The police had to intervene and tell them to back off at one stage.One Grey haired bespectacled little Hitler tried to grab my phone whilst i was taking pictures of him abusing one young lad don't normally get involved but their antics today were totally out of order
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Post by justanothertownfan on Dec 10, 2011 21:34:45 GMT 1
I've no idea what the stewards were up to today. It seemed that the whole of the Kilner bank singing section were stood up from the start of the game. After about 15 mins there seemed to be some sort of disturbance that lasted for ages. Even from the other side of the stadium it was quite clear that once again they were taking exception to standing. I cannot see how they can just select one person from the whole section and try to eject that person. Its just plain wrong. From my seat (Free tickets in Directors box today) I could see 20-30 Bournmouth fans standing throughout the game. Also a few in the FM lower standing at the back. It really needs sorting once and for all. In my normal seat, I'm happy to sit, but if someone stands in front then I do too. But sit when the person in front does. It wouldn't be so bad if it was enforced uniformly around the ground and at other grounds. If its dangerous to stand in the Kilner bank, then its equally as dangerous in the South stand or at Hillsborough.
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Post by bluemazubo on Dec 10, 2011 23:08:17 GMT 1
I think the opportunity to protest is Oldham at home to hold a protest. That would give us enough time to prepare, and we could even get the Latics fans involved. The Scenes today were just awful - it's time to take some action rather than complain here. If we stand together against the overzealous stewarding, so we do exactly that. We stand, together in silence. Does anybody else think this could be successful? Give us time to organize, and football fans stand together against the discrimination we face at every football game. Let's see what football is like without us fans.
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Post by htsa2011 on Dec 10, 2011 23:18:51 GMT 1
IMPORTANT UPDATE!
Today, the chairman of HTSA held a meeting with the Town fan subject to ejection versus Notts County, a HTFC director & the stadium Safety officer.
The supporter in question had received a letter from KSDL informing him that he was not permitted to return to the stadium until he had attended a meeting to discuss further with himself the safety officer and the football club. The supporter asked HTSA to be present also. This type of meeting is standard practice so the facts can be established and talked over when not in the heat of the moment.
A statement was read out by the stadium safety officer alleging a number of events that led to this ejection. The supporter in question was very shocked with some of these allegations and has a vehement desire to protest his innocence. To this end all parties decided that it was in everyone's interest for the fan in question NOT to sign a behaviour contract in relation to future conduct in the stadium. The safety officer has agreed to look into this further.
At this point HTSA would like to appeal to any supporters who witnessed this incident to contact chair@htsa-online.co.uk to discuss giving a statement regarding this specific incident only.
HTSA is committed to helping all parties resolve to a satisfactory conclusion.
THANKS FOT YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT - UTT
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Post by nse7entea on Dec 10, 2011 23:22:02 GMT 1
Don't know, but saw the stewards trying to get people to sit down again and getting the police involved (also noticed that once again, while trying to get our fans to sit down, the away fans were again treated completely differently, and the fans at the back of the away stand were able to stand all game long with stewards just standing there doing nothing). Basically it was 1 rule for us and 1 rule for the away fans (again). Of course they were allowed to stand, *ITS NOT ILLEGAL*. Any decision to clamp down on standing is 100% a stadium company decision...nothing to do with the law or safety. |
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Post by TerrierArmy on Dec 10, 2011 23:39:28 GMT 1
The club really needs did get a foothold here (are you seeing this SJ/NC?). Especially If the performances on the field continue this will create further agitation and frustrating and you can see a serious incident occurring in the near future.
It needs stomping out right now, and I'm glad HTSA are doing something positive to address the situation so well done them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2011 13:06:46 GMT 1
We we're getting told to sit down after 15 minutes yesterday, and that was in the doorway of the heritage suite.
F'ing ridiculous.
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Post by pozza on Dec 11, 2011 13:10:24 GMT 1
No actually I don't think anyone was thrown out. From what I could see the stewards tried chucking someone out, but his mates grabbed hold of him and a tug of war fight broke out on the steps. More and more people came over to assist these group of lads and in the end the stewards left it. Or at least thats what I think happened. He was chucked out at half time, by about 15 stewards. They did it in the corner near the meshing over the last block so nobody else could get involved. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2011 13:41:22 GMT 1
Why not start a protest to have Robinson removed, then all these issues will calm down. The mans typical of a lot of ex coppers.
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Post by stevvy on Dec 11, 2011 14:05:01 GMT 1
It's no wonder some people say they're not going because the stewards are ruining things. I have to admit, yesterday I really wanted someone to leather the lot of them. I'm sick of our fans being treated like criminals, treated totally different to away fans, and the stewards acting like they're god. It says on their jackets that they're there to assist. Are they bollocks. They're there to piss off Town fans, treat us like shit, and basically ruin things for Town fans. It's about time something serious was done, whether it's a protest, a load of meetings, or whatever, but they're just making things worse every single week. They think they're gods, but they're just jobsworths who think the jacket means they can do whatever the hell they want. I'm sick of it, and I know I'm not the only 1. The club, the people in charge, or whoever, really have to sort this out, because they're just turning away not just current fans, but future fans too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2011 14:30:13 GMT 1
Organise a mass sit in, after the next home game. It'll take a while to eject 200+ town fans, and the poor stewards won't get back home for their tea until late.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 11, 2011 15:40:43 GMT 1
We we're getting told to sit down after 15 minutes yesterday, and that was in the doorway of the heritage suite. F'ing ridiculous. How mental was that? I think Robinson was creaming himself watching us on CCTV and through his binoculars. The staff seemed embarrassed having to follow his 'orders'. Asking us to remove the flag was another insult. If anything needs removing it's him - before he causes a riot |
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Post by mezz60 on Dec 11, 2011 16:05:12 GMT 1
bear with me the important bit is down at the bottom  also if you look on the htafc website at archive news from tuesday 15th of april 2008 there is a picture of john robinson the big useless grinning idiot, then at least you know who you are dealing with. sorry cannot do links. took this off the G4S website what a complete load of rubbish they are obviously ill trained have no idea how to control a crowd and are just wanna be thugs in hi-viz vests Event security solutions Galpharm Stadium Galpharm Stadium Award winning event stewarding at Galpharm Stadium G4S Events works on behalf of Kirklees Stadium Development Ltd to provide security and stewarding at Galpharm Stadium. The stadium’s impressive annual event programme includes major Rugby Union and Rugby League Internationals, England U21 Soccer Internationals and high profile rock concerts. The venue is also home to Huddersfield Town FC and Huddersfield Giants Super League Rugby Club. The successful partnership between G4S’s management team at the ground and Kirklees Stadium Development Ltd has seen the company supplying stewarding staff to the stadium for over ten years. Results G4S’s stewarding team is part of an award winning operation at the stadium to which anywhere between 30 to 150 G4S stewarding and security staff are provided per game. Aided by G4S, Huddersfield Town won the Sports Alliance Family Club of the Year Award for Coca- Cola League 1 at the 2008 Football League awards. The award has been introduced by The Football League to recognise clubs delivering an outstanding match day experience that encourages families to come back time and time again. All 72 clubs were visited by mystery shopper families, in both the home and away areas, as part of the assessment. Testimonials John Robinson, Safety Officer for Football, KSDL highlights, “At Galpharm Stadium we rely heavily on G4S to help us with our match day arrangements and to support our own stewards to provide a safe and enjoyable environment. A sizeable number of the comments and feedback I receive are complimentary about the standard of the stewards we employ.” Jayne Armitage, Event Administration Manager, KSDL adds, “The service G4S provides is very good and its staff integrate well with our own match day staff. In 2008, Huddersfield Town Football Club won the Football League Family Club of the Year award which I feel reflects that good working relationship. I would have no hesitation in recommending G4S to potential new clients.” Contact Us Phone: 0845 9000 447 Mail: General Enquiries My clippings Site map Disclaimer Accessibility Privacy Contact Us © G4S 2011 Best matches for john robinson safety officer John Robinson, Safety Officer for Football, KSDL highlights, “At Galpharm Stadium we rely heavily on G4S to help us with our match day arrangements and to... Jump to text » More matches » |
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Post by TerrierArmy on Dec 11, 2011 16:09:18 GMT 1
That's exactly what Robinson wants 'a riot' - as that will give him the justification for his actions and give him leverage for further regulations.
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