ambryboy
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 29, 2020 21:18:56 GMT 1
That's a confident post, you'd better make sure you're there tomorrow to offer your support Sorry, couldn’t make it, but I stand by my original comment. I think you need to stay away until we're safe
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Post by detox on Mar 1, 2020 10:09:07 GMT 1
If Boro lose on Monday then I think we need 3 wins to be safe. Based on what I saw today and with their deluded manager I'm not sure Charlton are going to be ok either.
And if Boro somehow beat forest,Town are back to just 3 points from a relegation place. Despite of our two wins this week, we're not out of the woods yet by a long way...We're likely to lose at Leeds in reality..but with Charlton v Boro, Stoke v Hull and Wigan v Luton next Saturday though it could tighten up a bit...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 11:11:23 GMT 1
OP updated and added the current table standings. Big results for Town and Reading this weekend, the 4 teams above Reading are flirting with getting involved, especially as 3 of the 4 are facing potentially points deductions (if the EFL get a move on). Boro really need to get something tonight with 3 of their next 4 away to fellow strugglers. Still anyone's guess at this stage as to the 3 going down.
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Post by detox on Mar 2, 2020 11:22:59 GMT 1
OP updated and added the current table standings. Big results for Town and Reading this weekend, the 4 teams above Reading are flirting with getting involved, especially as 3 of the 4 are facing potentially points deductions (if the EFL get a move on). Boro really need to get something tonight with 3 of their next 4 away to fellow strugglers. Still anyone's guess at this stage as to the 3 going down. Thanks .. That last game of Wednesday v Boro' could end up being a relegation decider... I was trying to find an update on the points deduction (FFP) situation but it all seems hush hush. Derby and Birmingham might well get embroiled yet...and all this worry we're going through might end up being for nothing...
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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 2, 2020 12:02:26 GMT 1
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Post by stevvy on Mar 2, 2020 13:14:25 GMT 1
Re the points deductions, I think I remember reading that clubs are pushing the EFL to make a decision on points deductions due to us getting towards the end of the season, and clubs (rightly in my view) believing that any points deductions should be taken into account for this season, rather than teams starting on -6 next season for example.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 2, 2020 14:31:05 GMT 1
Three really tough games coming up.
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Post by sabailand on Mar 2, 2020 16:20:21 GMT 1
Yep, last week was just a small step in the right direction, two adverse results and everything goes to shit again!
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Mar 2, 2020 16:35:00 GMT 1
Re the points deductions, I think I remember reading that clubs are pushing the EFL to make a decision on points deductions due to us getting towards the end of the season, and clubs (rightly in my view) believing that any points deductions should be taken into account for this season, rather than teams starting on -6 next season for example. What's the likely-hood of a points deduction this season, 9 point deductions for either Sheff Weds/Derby chucks them right in it.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 2, 2020 16:35:09 GMT 1
Yep, last week was just a small step in the right direction, two adverse results and everything goes to shit again! as i've said before, every game is a cup final from now till the end of the season. If we falter then we could be in trouble.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 2, 2020 16:39:18 GMT 1
Derby and Wednesday.
If they get 9 points taken off will put them both right in the mix on 39 points. Personally I cannot see why the FL cannot push the boat out and give them both 12 points deductions at least which will put them both on 36 points, or even 15 points to leave them both on 33 points. Do the FL have the bottle? Wednesday in particular should be bricking it.
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Post by fogster66 on Mar 2, 2020 18:09:10 GMT 1
OP updated and added the current table standings. Big results for Town and Reading this weekend, the 4 teams above Reading are flirting with getting involved, especially as 3 of the 4 are facing potentially points deductions (if the EFL get a move on). Boro really need to get something tonight with 3 of their next 4 away to fellow strugglers. Still anyone's guess at this stage as to the 3 going down. And goal difference could be a big feature - apart from Luton (-28) and Reading (+2), it's all very close. As Town showed on Saturday, one big win against another struggling club paints a whole different picture.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 2, 2020 19:20:07 GMT 1
Derby and Wednesday. If they get 9 points taken off will put them both right in the mix on 39 points. Personally I cannot see why the FL cannot push the boat out and give them both 12 points deductions at least which will put them both on 36 points, or even 15 points to leave them both on 33 points. Do the FL have the bottle? Wednesday in particular should be bricking it. Would be nice to see The big problem I foresee though is the legal challenge that the EFL might face. Derby have already said they’d fight any deduction We could have a situation which drags on into the Summer or maybe beyond where a team has no idea if they’re relegated or not as they’re awaiting the outcome of an appeal. EFL must ensure their case is water tight
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 2, 2020 21:19:46 GMT 1
Boro 1 - 0 down v Forest, who have yet to let Diakhaby onto the grass.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 2, 2020 21:31:15 GMT 1
Hang on... .1 - 1 😖
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 21:37:36 GMT 1
Boro 2-1 up, FFS
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 2, 2020 21:41:56 GMT 1
Derby and Wednesday. If they get 9 points taken off will put them both right in the mix on 39 points. Personally I cannot see why the FL cannot push the boat out and give them both 12 points deductions at least which will put them both on 36 points, or even 15 points to leave them both on 33 points. Do the FL have the bottle? Wednesday in particular should be bricking it. Would be nice to see The big problem I foresee though is the legal challenge that the EFL might face. Derby have already said they’d fight any deduction We could have a situation which drags on into the Summer or maybe beyond where a team has no idea if they’re relegated or not as they’re awaiting the outcome of an appeal. EFL must ensure their case is water tight I don't see a problem If Derby don't stand by the FL's decision then they can persue it in the courts, but then again the FL could take Derby's FL share if it came to a push. Same with the wendies. If they fight the FL they could find themselves in the bottom tier of english football.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 2, 2020 22:02:22 GMT 1
This division is ridiculous. Just looked at the table, as it stands with Middlesbrough winning, 30 points still to play for, Reading are only 6 points above relegation, Wednesday are only 3 points in front of Reading. There could be a shock come end of this season, unlikely but still could happen.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 2, 2020 22:03:14 GMT 1
Phew!
It's ok.
What a relief!
Diakhaby is on!!!😂😂😂😂
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 2, 2020 22:30:23 GMT 1
It’s not just derby and sheff wed aren’t Birmingham up for a potential points deduction also. This division is unbelievable this year.
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Post by softboy on Mar 3, 2020 19:24:41 GMT 1
As said previous Birmingham only got their points deduction last season when they were 14 points (I believe) above the drop zone. So after the deduction they still had a really good chance of staying up. The EFL are essentially saying - well clear of relegation you gets the points deducted this season - not well clear of relegation its next year. Which I can understand because they do not want to get involved in legal action that costs them money and someone with a bigger purse will win anyway - Wayne Rooney County spring to mind.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 3, 2020 19:29:33 GMT 1
As said previous Birmingham only got their points deduction last season when they were 14 points (I believe) above the drop zone. So after the deduction they still had a really good chance of staying up. The EFL are essentially saying - well clear of relegation you gets the points deducted this season - not well clear of relegation its next year. Which I can understand because they do not want to get involved in legal action that costs them money and someone with a bigger purse will win anyway - Wayne Rooney County spring to mind. A cynical, but perfectly reasonable assumption.
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Post by Leporid on Mar 4, 2020 13:37:17 GMT 1
As said previous Birmingham only got their points deduction last season when they were 14 points (I believe) above the drop zone. So after the deduction they still had a really good chance of staying up. The EFL are essentially saying - well clear of relegation you gets the points deducted this season - not well clear of relegation its next year. Which I can understand because they do not want to get involved in legal action that costs them money and someone with a bigger purse will win anyway - Wayne Rooney County spring to mind. Very good. Wayne County
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Mar 4, 2020 13:42:56 GMT 1
Worst case scenario we lose Saturday and all those below us win, we still won't drop into the bottom 3.
This week is a complete free hit, the real 6 pointer is next Saturday which really is a 'must win'.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 4, 2020 14:03:39 GMT 1
Re the points deductions, I think I remember reading that clubs are pushing the EFL to make a decision on points deductions due to us getting towards the end of the season, and clubs (rightly in my view) believing that any points deductions should be taken into account for this season, rather than teams starting on -6 next season for example. The longer the season goes on with no decision made the more likely it becomes that the FA will bottle it and put any deductions on next year. There will be appeals and legal threats bandied about so much if it could really send a team down (as said elsewhere they only did it to Brum once they knew they'd stay up) that any deductions are likely to be retrospectie imho (assuming coronavirus doesnt wipe the whole season off).
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Post by benhomly on Mar 4, 2020 14:09:32 GMT 1
Worst case scenario we lose Saturday and all those below us win, we still won't drop into the bottom 3. This week is a complete free hit, the real 6 pointer is next Saturday which really is a 'must win'. I think we 'must win' 3 more games out of our remaining 10 but I don't think any of them are must win games on an individual basis. Beat Leeds and lose to Wigan would do just fine for me.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 4, 2020 14:34:49 GMT 1
Re the points deductions, I think I remember reading that clubs are pushing the EFL to make a decision on points deductions due to us getting towards the end of the season, and clubs (rightly in my view) believing that any points deductions should be taken into account for this season, rather than teams starting on -6 next season for example. The longer the season goes on with no decision made the more likely it becomes that the FA will bottle it and put any deductions on next year. There will be appeals and legal threats bandied about so much if it could really send a team down (as said elsewhere they only did it to Brum once they knew they'd stay up) that any deductions are likely to be retrospectie imho (assuming coronavirus doesnt wipe the whole season off). Will be interesting the reaction of a relegated team should (let’s say) Brum start next season 10 points down but the third bottom team finished 9 points behind them this season and if that throws up legal challenges
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 4, 2020 14:49:14 GMT 1
Worst case scenario we lose Saturday and all those below us win, we still won't drop into the bottom 3. This week is a complete free hit, the real 6 pointer is next Saturday which really is a 'must win'. A point on Saturday would guarantee we have a 4 point gap to relegation zone with charlton playing Boro UTT
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Post by bogart on Mar 4, 2020 17:57:44 GMT 1
Worst case scenario we lose Saturday and all those below us win, we still won't drop into the bottom 3. This week is a complete free hit, the real 6 pointer is next Saturday which really is a 'must win'. I think we 'must win' 3 more games out of our remaining 10 but I don't think any of them are must win games on an individual basis. Beat Leeds and lose to Wigan would do just fine for me. The other way around would be so much nicer though.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 4, 2020 21:12:48 GMT 1
Worst case scenario we lose Saturday and all those below us win, we still won't drop into the bottom 3. This week is a complete free hit, the real 6 pointer is next Saturday which really is a 'must win'. It'd be a bloody miracle, as some are playing each other 😃
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