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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 24, 2021 14:26:44 GMT 1
Am I the only one that is pissed off that this European Super League isn’t happening?. Good riddance to those 6 Clubs and a lost opportunity to reset the English game financially. I honestly think they should have been booted out of the league, then they can go their own jolly ways. None of them should be let off this act of football vandalism.
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Post by JG Mellor on Apr 24, 2021 14:28:40 GMT 1
Am I the only one that is pissed off that this European Super League isn’t happening?. Good riddance to those 6 Clubs and a lost opportunity to reset the English game financially. I honestly think they should have been booted out of the league, then they can go their own jolly ways. None of them should be let off this act of football vandalism. Then you don't get to enjoy days like us thrashing Man Ure in the premier League again.
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 24, 2021 14:36:50 GMT 1
I honestly think they should have been booted out of the league, then they can go their own jolly ways. None of them should be let off this act of football vandalism. Then you don't get to enjoy days like us thrashing Man Ure in the premier League again. I also don't enjoy watching shit like Pritchard who is in a week earning what many would aspire to earn in a year take the piss because the money sloshing around in the English game has allows it to happen.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 24, 2021 22:36:33 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Apr 24, 2021 22:55:02 GMT 1
Hilarious. Fuck the whole lot of them.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 24, 2021 23:40:18 GMT 1
It would be absoluteness hilarious if they have to pay millions in damages not to join - tens if not hundreds of millions
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 24, 2021 23:59:55 GMT 1
You can checkout anytime but you can never leave.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 25, 2021 14:12:21 GMT 1
We all know the furore it caused here but does anyone know the reaction from fans in Spain and Italy, they`re passionate about their clubs as well but we didnt get to see/hear much about how the news of a super league was recieved, was there widespread criticism or just a shrug of the shoulders.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 26, 2021 18:31:46 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 26, 2021 19:45:55 GMT 1
Herbie Bockhorn is on BT now, commentators just said Bochum tweeted a photo of Florentine Perez with the message "stop ringing us, we're not interested. We're happy where we are." 😁
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Post by bogart on May 3, 2021 17:24:10 GMT 1
There must be consequences for the six English clubs who tried to join the ill-fated European Super League, according to former Premier League executive chairman Richard Scudamore.
That is rich coming from him.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 3, 2021 17:32:48 GMT 1
relegate them to the lowest league in English Football.
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Post by bogart on May 3, 2021 19:07:59 GMT 1
On current form and positions could end up with 3 of the BIG 6 not even qualifying for the Europa League never mind the Champions league. They will have to invent another competition all the way down to about 10th position so these BIG clubs can get in.
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Post by sabailand on May 3, 2021 19:40:19 GMT 1
On current form and positions could end up with 3 of the BIG 6 not even qualifying for the Europa League never mind the Champions league. They will have to invent another competition all the way down to about 10th position so these BIG clubs can get in. The biggest club competition in Europe might be changed to the 'Champions, runners up, also rans, and clubs with most money league'.
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Post by softboy on May 3, 2021 21:03:58 GMT 1
What I don’t get is all these fans of the ‘super six’ saying we are a community club, we have tradition, we have history, we should have our view taken seriously. Rubbish. They are now PLCs, international businness, these fans are now customers. The link between the clubs and fans has gone. Sad but thats it. If the owners of the big clubs can grow their global brand without English fans then thats the way it is.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 3, 2021 22:07:50 GMT 1
What I don’t get is all these fans of the ‘super six’ saying we are a community club, we have tradition, we have history, we should have our view taken seriously. Rubbish. They are now PLCs, international businness, these fans are now customers. The link between the clubs and fans has gone. Sad but thats it. If the owners of the big clubs can grow their global brand without English fans then thats the way it is. Whilst agreeing with this, it should be acknowledged that some fans of these 6 clubs ( not the plastic ones) are proper deep rooted fans of their clubs who are following a long family tradition of support, just like us. It’s these fans I feel sorry for.
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Post by softboy on May 3, 2021 22:25:07 GMT 1
Their clubs have gone. I have supported Town for over 50 years so would hate it happening to us. But the reality is these foreign owners realise they can make far more money playing in empty stadium to a massive overseas subscribers than they would ever make looking after the traditional fan. If the supporters of Man U or any of the others think they will get their club back (its a PLC FFS) then they are wasting their time.
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Post by sabailand on May 3, 2021 22:31:56 GMT 1
But the reality is these foreign owners realise they can make far more money playing in empty stadium to a massive overseas subscribers than they would ever make looking after the traditional fan. Although your other points have some truth i cant honestly ever see the day when teams play in empty stadiums at the behest of TV, it will never happen, i`d put everything i own on that.
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Post by ambryboy on May 3, 2021 22:35:55 GMT 1
On current form and positions could end up with 3 of the BIG 6 not even qualifying for the Europa League never mind the Champions league. They will have to invent another competition all the way down to about 10th position so these BIG clubs can get in. The biggest club competition in Europe might be changed to the 'Champions, runners up, also rans, and clubs with most money league'. The Overinflated Egos Cup perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 23:10:02 GMT 1
What I don’t get is all these fans of the ‘super six’ saying we are a community club, we have tradition, we have history, we should have our view taken seriously. Rubbish. They are now PLCs, international businness, these fans are now customers. The link between the clubs and fans has gone. Sad but thats it. If the owners of the big clubs can grow their global brand without English fans then thats the way it is. Whilst agreeing with this, it should be acknowledged that some fans of these 6 clubs ( not the plastic ones) are proper deep rooted fans of their clubs who are following a long family tradition of support, just like us. It’s these fans I feel sorry for. Its an interesting conundrum...and fair play Man Utd fans did actually protest against the Glazers from the start, "even though" they were going through a period of success at the time - which kind of emphasises this is not just spoilt brats moaning that they aren't winning the league every season, they are football fans just like we are. What I find interesting, on the subject of 'football club' vs 'business' is the Man Utd badge from shirts most of us would be aware of through the 70's, 80's and 90's... And the Man Utd badge now... It tells a tale. Where is the 'football club' ? I think similarly we lost our football club in 2008 ?
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Post by Captainslapper on May 4, 2021 0:24:17 GMT 1
We lost our club in 2008 ? How so? When a local lad done good bought the club and finally sparked some life back into it?
United and Liverpool are global brands. But at least in their cases its a brand gradually grown from decades of success. In football club terms, their names have an aura about them and they trade off that.
Man City though.. just a middling top flight, 2nd tier club that are having title after title bought for them. A marketing tool for an entire country that wants to show how rich and successful they can be. They'd probably never heard of Man City before their search for a suitable club to buy started. Any success they have just leaves me cold..its largely meaningless. Chelsea the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 8:53:49 GMT 1
We lost our club in 2008 ? How so? When a local lad done good bought the club and finally sparked some life back into it? I was referring to the club badge losing “football club”, just like Man Utd.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 4, 2021 11:45:13 GMT 1
Fair dos.
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Post by yappledapple on May 5, 2021 19:55:54 GMT 1
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Post by faffa on May 8, 2021 7:30:20 GMT 1
£13 million is going to teach them a lesson 🙄. Maybe they meant each
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Post by shawsie on May 8, 2021 7:44:54 GMT 1
£13 million is going to teach them a lesson 🙄. Maybe they meant each Beyond pathetic......no wonder many are simply turning away from the game as a spectacle.
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Post by yappledapple on May 9, 2021 11:42:03 GMT 1
Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus continue to fight their ESL cause and appear to be refusing to back down. They are obviously really desperate for the money to bail themselves out of the huge financial holes they are all in.
They have now released a stinging statement aimed at UEFA/FIFA...
STATEMENT FROM BARCELONA, JUVE AND REAL
In relation to the statement released by UEFA on the 7th May in respect of the Super League and the position taken by 9 of its founding clubs, Fútbol Club Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid Club de Fútbol state the following:
(i) The founding clubs have suffered, and continue to suffer, unacceptable third-party pressures, threats, and offenses to abandon the project and therefore desist from their right and duty to provide solutions to the football ecosystem via concrete proposals and constructive dialogue. This is intolerable under the rule of law and Tribunals have already ruled in favour of the Super League proposal, ordering FIFA and UEFA to, either directly or through their affiliated bodies, refrain from taking any action which may hinder this initiative in any way while court proceedings are pending.
(ii) The Super League project was designed jointly by its 12 founding clubs:
a) with the aim of providing solutions to the current unsustainable situation in the football industry. The 12 founding clubs shared the same concerns -as other stakeholders in European football do-, particularly under the current socio-economic context, that structural reforms are indispensable to ensure our sport stays appealing and survives in the long-term. To that effect, on 18th April, they announced their willingness to create the Super League and establish a channel of communication with UEFA and FIFA, in a constructive spirit of collaboration between the parties, as it was so notified to each of them on such date;
b) with the utmost respect for the current football structures and ecosystem. The founding clubs expressly agreed that the Super League would only take place if such a competition was recognised by UEFA and/or FIFA or if, in accordance with applicable laws and regulations, it was deemed to be a competition duly compatible for all purposes with the continuity of the founding clubs in their respective domestic competitions. However, despite being aware of the above terms, UEFA and FIFA have so far refused to establish any adequate channel of communication; and
c) to bring financial stability to the entire European football family, currently under the effects of a deep crisis that threatens the survival of many clubs. Testament of it, the announced commitment to establish annual solidarity payments for guaranteed annual amounts that materially multiply those distributed by UEFA, and the obligation to reinforce financial sustainability rules, through the creation of a clear, transparent and effective control system verified by experts.
(iii) The 12 founding clubs also acknowledged that the Super League was a unique opportunity to offer fans around the world the best possible show and to reinforce global interest in the sport, which is not a “given” and is challenged by new generational trends. Moreover, one of its main objectives was to promote women's football on a global level, a tremendous, but currently underestimated, opportunity for the sector.
(iv) We are fully aware of the diversity of reactions to the Super League initiative and, consequently, of the need to reflect on the reasons for some of them. We are ready to reconsider the proposed approach, as necessary. However, we would be highly irresponsible if, being aware of the needs and systemic crisis in the football sector, which led us to announce the Super League, we abandoned such mission to provide effective and sustainable answers to the existential questions that threaten the football industry.
(v) We regret to see that our friends and founding partners of the Super League project have now found themselves in such inconsistent and contradictory position when signing a number of commitments to UEFA yesterday. However, given that the material issues that led the 12 founding clubs to announce the Super League weeks ago have not gone away, we reiterate that, to honour our history, to comply with our obligations towards our stakeholders and fans, for the good of football and for the financial sustainability of the sector, we have the duty to act in a responsible manner and persevere in the pursuit of adequate solutions, despite the unacceptable and ongoing pressures and threats received from UEFA.
(vi) Mostly, we reiterate to FIFA, UEFA and all football stakeholders, as we have done on several occasions since the announcement of the Super League, our commitment and firm will to discuss, with respect and without intolerable pressure and in accordance with the rule of law, the most appropriate solutions for the sustainability of the whole football family.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 10, 2021 15:00:44 GMT 1
this is IMO what should have happened to all 6 teams from the PL as soon as it was known they were jumping ship.
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Post by yappledapple on May 27, 2021 7:06:09 GMT 1
Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus cling to their super league idea, even with the threats from UEFA...
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Post by DeepSpace on May 27, 2021 7:49:04 GMT 1
Three of the clubs most responsible for making football unsustainable are complaining that it's unsustainable.
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