boooothy
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Post by boooothy on Sept 5, 2021 13:01:39 GMT 1
Is the tale not that Deano wants his dosh before we give MKDons a million quid. I think tale is the key word there The poster above clarified it for me (i think) that any transfer fees in, go straight to Hoyle. Makes sense. In fact it makes the whole sale of the club make sense if you think what the squad was worth pre Seawart.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 5, 2021 13:43:29 GMT 1
I think tale is the key word there The poster above clarified it for me (i think) that any transfer fees in, go straight to Hoyle. Makes sense. In fact it makes the whole sale of the club make sense if you think what the squad was worth pre Seawart. I get there logically has to be an agreement between Phil and Dean,that's just commercial common sense. The continued and and disrespectful comments from a small but vocal minority that Dean would sacrifice the club's existence / future just to add a few more million to his bank account is obscene. It gets my goat up! People in that small minority don't know how lucky they are , there are dozens of clubs with far worse owners than town.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 5, 2021 13:58:06 GMT 1
The poster above clarified it for me (i think) that any transfer fees in, go straight to Hoyle. Makes sense. In fact it makes the whole sale of the club make sense if you think what the squad was worth pre Seawart. I get there logically has to be an agreement between Phil and Dean,that's just commercial common sense. The continued and and disrespectful comments from a small but vocal minority that Dean would sacrifice the club's existence / future just to add a few more million to his bank account is obscene. It gets my goat up! People in that small minority don't know how lucky they are , there are dozens of clubs with far worse owners than town. I wasn’t a fan of Phil at the start of his region as I believed he showed a lot of arrogance and bravado. I think once he realised the situation with the over paid players not worth the transfer fees we paid for them (diakhaby my main example), that Phil changed his approach and I believe he does have the best interests of the club at heart. He’s given the manager players despite our limited budget and backed him despite terrible performances since January. The start of the season has been good for us so far which he will believe justifies his support of Carlos. Ultimately results are king and so far we are winning. UTT.
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 5, 2021 17:46:14 GMT 1
I get there logically has to be an agreement between Phil and Dean,that's just commercial common sense. The continued and and disrespectful comments from a small but vocal minority that Dean would sacrifice the club's existence / future just to add a few more million to his bank account is obscene. It gets my goat up! People in that small minority don't know how lucky they are , there are dozens of clubs with far worse owners than town. I wasn’t a fan of Phil at the start of his region as I believed he showed a lot of arrogance and bravado. I think once he realised the situation with the over paid players not worth the transfer fees we paid for them (diakhaby my main example), that Phil changed his approach and I believe he does have the best interests of the club at heart. He’s given the manager players despite our limited budget and backed him despite terrible performances since January. The start of the season has been good for us so far which he will believe justifies his support of Carlos. Ultimately results are king and so far we are winning. UTT. Think the key will be what the investment is when dean is finally paid off.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Sept 5, 2021 21:11:14 GMT 1
Regarding paying Hoyle back, what am I missing?
The guy agrees to sell something and then people get the arse when he wants the money for it?
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 5, 2021 21:30:22 GMT 1
Regarding paying Hoyle back, what am I missing? The guy agrees to sell something and then people get the arse when he wants the money for it? Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible.
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Post by York Terrier on Sept 7, 2021 21:48:19 GMT 1
Regarding paying Hoyle back, what am I missing? The guy agrees to sell something and then people get the arse when he wants the money for it? Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Did Hoyle go out and scout Mbenza ? Or indeed any of the Flops I would suggest that he did not, most chairmen put the money in with loan notes hoping to get their money back,so if there is anything to complain about it’s that he would have known he would possibly loose all the money he invested and he could have gifted it by writing the loan off but wanted his money back.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 8, 2021 17:03:22 GMT 1
Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Did Hoyle go out and scout Mbenza ? Or indeed any of the Flops I would suggest that he did not, most chairmen put the money in with loan notes hoping to get their money back,so if there is anything to complain about it’s that he would have known he would possibly loose all the money he invested and he could have gifted it by writing the loan off but wanted his money back. He can't be blamed for specific signings, but he will have been heavily involved in how the recruitment/scouting was set-up, so needs to take a lot of responsibility for the overall performance. Long before all the mess happened I know people who said we cut corners in this area, whilst it's pretty obvious the messing about with the DofF position won't likely have helped.
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Post by dm on Sept 8, 2021 17:09:27 GMT 1
Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Did Hoyle go out and scout Mbenza ? Or indeed any of the Flops I would suggest that he did not, most chairmen put the money in with loan notes hoping to get their money back,so if there is anything to complain about it’s that he would have known he would possibly loose all the money he invested and he could have gifted it by writing the loan off but wanted his money back. In the interest of fairness, Hodgkinson can never be criticised for the signings we make.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 8, 2021 19:45:08 GMT 1
Regarding paying Hoyle back, what am I missing? The guy agrees to sell something and then people get the arse when he wants the money for it? Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager
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Yesss
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Post by Yesss on Sept 8, 2021 19:48:00 GMT 1
Is this a Wagner & Hoyle thread? Must be mistaken🤔
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 8, 2021 20:43:14 GMT 1
Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager Weren't we supposed to sign Adama Traore before Hoyle forgot to get the deal done because he was on holiday?
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 8, 2021 22:26:50 GMT 1
Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager That was "apparently" diakhaby, Wagner wanted traore but Hoyle blew that deal by being on holiday and missing the call leading to us having to get mbenza last minute hence the loan with the obligation to buy to push the deal through before the window shut. I’m not totally sure he wanted either was he switched to wingbacks pretty quickly.
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 8, 2021 23:51:36 GMT 1
He's decent. Would be an interesting option if we are starting to think about a long term successor to Hoggy. I think we would be justified in going back in for him in January. He would then become the Justified David of Kasumu!
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 9, 2021 10:53:59 GMT 1
Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager Weren't we supposed to sign Adama Traore before Hoyle forgot to get the deal done because he was on holiday? How dare you provide facts to Shortbread Pete that make Dean look bad! It is all DW’s fault!
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 9, 2021 11:19:58 GMT 1
injury prone the guy is but he looks really good , defo would have him
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 9, 2021 11:30:55 GMT 1
injury prone the guy is but he looks really good , defo would have him What could possibly go wrong?
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Post by Jello Biafra on Sept 9, 2021 13:49:37 GMT 1
injury prone the guy is but he looks really good , defo would have him Well said, Yoda...
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Sept 9, 2021 17:21:26 GMT 1
injury prone the guy is but he looks really good , defo would have him That's the first box ticked then.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 9, 2021 18:03:43 GMT 1
Hoyle can take a long walk off of a pier for me if he is getting a cent back of the money we paid for Mbenza. To see him chuck money at such a sack of shit, see the club gain nothing from him and then to take his money back is in my opinion incomprehensible. Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager Did Wagner scout him ?
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 9, 2021 22:37:51 GMT 1
Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager Did Wagner scout him ? No but he can't get credit for the players who performed and be given a get out of jail card for those who didn't. He was hugely influential in every player signed or released
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Post by captainjack on Sept 10, 2021 12:26:15 GMT 1
Davis Wagner's number one signing choice that summer but let's blame DH for backing his manager Did Wagner scout him ? Stevie Wonder by all accounts!!
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 10, 2021 18:42:59 GMT 1
No but he can't get credit for the players who performed and be given a get out of jail card for those who didn't. He was hugely influential in every player signed or released Sorry but I must have missed where it has been stated Wagner should get the credit for any transfers other than some of the first German ones. Where is it said ?
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 10, 2021 18:46:43 GMT 1
No but he can't get credit for the players who performed and be given a get out of jail card for those who didn't. He was hugely influential in every player signed or released Sorry but I must have missed where it has been stated Wagner should get the credit for any transfers other than some of the first German ones. Where is it said ? Go and play with someone else as I'm not interested thanks
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 10, 2021 18:49:58 GMT 1
Sorry but I must have missed where it has been stated Wagner should get the credit for any transfers other than some of the first German ones. Where is it said ? Go and play with someone else as I'm not interested thanks In other words you don’t have a valid answer and your original post was bollocks and unnecessarily having a dig at Wagner. Thanks for confirming. Nothing wrong with appreciating both hoyle and Wagner by the way.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 10, 2021 18:50:19 GMT 1
This thread is meant to be about David Kasumu…… so, can I assume Dean Hoyle and David Wagner are both returning and their first target for January is David Kasumu? Otherwise, why the hell are DH and DW even being mentioned on this thread?
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 10, 2021 18:52:34 GMT 1
Fuck knows but I had to reply to a ridiculous and unnecessary post having a dig at Wagner.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 17, 2021 22:21:50 GMT 1
I think tale is the key word there The poster above clarified it for me (i think) that any transfer fees in, go straight to Hoyle. Makes sense. In fact it makes the whole sale of the club make sense if you think what the squad was worth pre Seawart. Dean gets a certain amount per year, once that's repaid then the club can spend it as they wish (However we are overpaying out of choice to try cut loose quicker)
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Post by The Lightening Bomber on Jun 28, 2022 16:54:56 GMT 1
This lad has turned down a new contract at MK and is not at their pre season training according to their own manager. Swansea linked but many MK fans on Twitter say he’s coming to Hudds 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by arry11 on Jun 28, 2022 18:36:29 GMT 1
This lad has turned down a new contract at MK and is not at their pre season training according to their own manager. Swansea linked but many MK fans on Twitter say he’s coming to Hudds 🤷🏻♂️ I would love this type of player bossing central midfield and can orchestrate our forward play just add some attacking players UTT.
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