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Post by benhomly on Jan 18, 2024 14:13:45 GMT 1
There is a difference between not agreeing that a player is worth what we are supposedly going to pay and moaning about spending money. Personally, I don't think we need another striker. I would rather the 2M be invested in a wing back or central midfielder. Then again, it isn't my money. Just don't want a repeat of the summer of 2018 where we just spent money willy nilly on average for the sake of it. Radulovic, Matos and the rumoured defender Balker are very good acquisitions. Shrewd signings using money wisely. Who's to say they're good acquisitions, at this stage? I mean, hopefully they (and Healey) will prove to be so, but we can't know until we've seen what they can do for us. All just guesswork. Rockwall, to suit his argument
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Post by rockwall on Jan 18, 2024 14:13:59 GMT 1
There is a difference between not agreeing that a player is worth what we are supposedly going to pay and moaning about spending money. Personally, I don't think we need another striker. I would rather the 2M be invested in a wing back or central midfielder. Then again, it isn't my money. Just don't want a repeat of the summer of 2018 where we just spent money willy nilly on average for the sake of it. Radulovic, Matos and the rumoured defender Balker are very good acquisitions. Shrewd signings using money wisely. Town not needing another striker is quite the take It is when they don't get the ball due to the lack of quality behind them.
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Post by rockwall on Jan 18, 2024 14:14:39 GMT 1
Who's to say they're good acquisitions, at this stage? I mean, hopefully they (and Healey) will prove to be so, but we can't know until we've seen what they can do for us. All just guesswork. Rockwall, to suit his argument Opinion.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 18, 2024 14:16:32 GMT 1
Warnock liked him, Warnock wanted him - good enough for me...
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Post by uw2ba on Jan 18, 2024 14:18:06 GMT 1
Healey, Rad9, burgzorg, Thomas, koroma, rudoni, Matos etc
Sounds much more promising than earlier on this season.
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Post by k1man999 on Jan 18, 2024 14:18:26 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there)
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 18, 2024 14:20:08 GMT 1
'FFS. Another potless chairman not willing to commit funds into the club. Nagle needs to invest and quick, especially after the shit show of the summer! We can't even compete with the likes of Luton and Hull'.... ....'NO! Don't spend that much now, on something we need, or that person! FFS! What are we doing!? Sack Cartwright. Nagle Out'. Town fans are never happy. Most of us would have complained bitterly if we'd kept a tight rein on the purse strings in summer 2018...
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 18, 2024 14:23:10 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there) This is the head-scratch for me as well. We're weak going forward, because our only attacking impetus comes from wingers. So, we'll use a wingerless system.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 18, 2024 14:26:46 GMT 1
Looks like a goal scorer from his highlights reel, as unreliable as those can be. A number 9 that likes to get in the penalty box, attack the 6 yard line and score goals. Just what we need and haven't had for quite a while.
If he's 29 and had some bad injuries that's a worry, also the fact Watford are fine to let him go after a few months. £2m seems a bit steep in the context, although there could be more to it than that and if he keeps us up then it will be worth it. Big if though!
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Post by dezzly on Jan 18, 2024 14:31:09 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there) This is the head-scratch for me as well. We're weak going forward, because our only attacking impetus comes from wingers. So, we'll use a wingerless system. Agree really.although to go to a system with wingers kind of forces you to a back 4.full back options,especially right back haven’t been in abundance.having Spencer turton and possibly Ruffels might change that.Although if Healey suits two up top and I had to guess I’d think we’ll stick at 3-5-2 or move to 3-4-1-2.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 18, 2024 14:39:38 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there) This is the head-scratch for me as well. We're weak going forward, because our only attacking impetus comes from wingers. So, we'll use a wingerless system. Bob on. Warnock saw Koroma and for 3 games Thomas were our attacking threat so picked teams/formations to suit. Moore has a massive excuse in that he hasn’t had much choice who plays but he clearly likes a formation that doesn’t suit our current players. In fact i’ve no idea how Sorba and Koroma fit into his team when he does eventually have options.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 14:49:15 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there) I think the players will need to be more mobile regarding formation. No reason why a 4 with Spencer and Nakayama out wide can’t shift to a three if required and the winger drop back to cover, or Hogg or Matos drop back to make up numbers. One of the reasons we struggle is because the current squad are not good at that, and they can be a bit rigid to their positions because they are not very confident. Hopefully better players throughout the team will allow us to change shape as required.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 18, 2024 14:49:52 GMT 1
Warnock liked him, Warnock wanted him - good enough for me... he also made DW the top earner with a new 2 year contract
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 18, 2024 15:00:39 GMT 1
Warnock liked him, Warnock wanted him - good enough for me... he also made DW the top earner with a new 2 year contract From what i was told DW has took a sizeable wage cut to stay mate, but yes a 2 year deal was a bit daft.
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Post by royrace on Jan 18, 2024 15:04:58 GMT 1
Town not needing another striker is quite the take It is when they don't get the ball due to the lack of quality behind them. We are crying out for creativity so I don't think just chucking strikers at it is the answer although they are needed.
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Post by Maynardblue on Jan 18, 2024 15:06:05 GMT 1
Why do people care how much of Kev Nagle’s money is being spent? I seem to remember people saying similar about Dean Hoyle spending 'his' money...until it suddenly became 'our' money he'd been spending once we made the prem.
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Post by royrace on Jan 18, 2024 15:07:53 GMT 1
he also made DW the top earner with a new 2 year contract From what i was told DW has took a sizeable wage cut to stay mate, but yes a 2 year deal was a bit daft. These Warnock stories are funny, he'll be getting blamed for the problems in the Middle East before too long.
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Post by cyberman on Jan 18, 2024 15:16:59 GMT 1
From what i was told DW has took a sizeable wage cut to stay mate, but yes a 2 year deal was a bit daft. These Warnock stories are funny, he'll be getting blamed for the problems in the Middle East before too long. I blame him for the shortage of botox - he snaffled it all up apparently to retain his Ferengi looks
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 18, 2024 15:18:34 GMT 1
From what i was told DW has took a sizeable wage cut to stay mate, but yes a 2 year deal was a bit daft. These Warnock stories are funny, he'll be getting blamed for the problems in the Middle East before too long. Can you seriously not see from the years of history and shenanigans how Warnock could potentially be problematic to work with? You just dismiss every criticism of him out of hand.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jan 18, 2024 15:21:09 GMT 1
Why do people care how much of Kev Nagle’s money is being spent? Possibly because Nagle can only spend a certain amount due to set budgets and ffp. Therefore people could be questioning if we can afford to spend a £2m on this particular player. Maybe that ?
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Post by Melc on Jan 18, 2024 15:37:02 GMT 1
There is a difference between not agreeing that a player is worth what we are supposedly going to pay and moaning about spending money. Personally, I don't think we need another striker. I would rather the 2M be invested in a wing back or central midfielder. Then again, it isn't my money. Just don't want a repeat of the summer of 2018 where we just spent money willy nilly on average for the sake of it. Radulovic, Matos and the rumoured defender Balker are very good acquisitions. Shrewd signings using money wisely. Town not needing another striker is quite the take Like hitting your head against a rock wall isn’t it.
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Post by DuffMan on Jan 18, 2024 15:39:03 GMT 1
Why do people care how much of Kev Nagle’s money is being spent? I seem to remember people saying similar about Dean Hoyle spending 'his' money...until it suddenly became 'our' money he'd been spending once we made the prem. They can't win! 😂 Whinge when we spend, whinge when we don't! At least the guy is showing some ambition FFS
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 18, 2024 15:46:01 GMT 1
From what i was told DW has took a sizeable wage cut to stay mate, but yes a 2 year deal was a bit daft. These Warnock stories are funny, he'll be getting blamed for the problems in the Middle East before too long. Warnock stories always seem to come back to the same thing:- Money I realise for many on here he can do no wrong.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 18, 2024 15:47:53 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there) Not v good there, I would argue that this was where he was at his best under CC he played RWB and was excellent I am sure for most 2021 and into 2022, for me Sorba is much better running from deep than he is further forward.
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Post by Maynardblue on Jan 18, 2024 15:55:47 GMT 1
I seem to remember people saying similar about Dean Hoyle spending 'his' money...until it suddenly became 'our' money he'd been spending once we made the prem. They can't win! 😂 Whinge when we spend, whinge when we don't! At least the guy is showing some ambition FFS I'm not whingeing at all, I'm very pleased in fact. Just pointing out that it's not necessarily Nagles money that we're spending hence why people might have a concern about 'paying over the odds'
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 18, 2024 15:59:10 GMT 1
They can't win! 😂 Whinge when we spend, whinge when we don't! At least the guy is showing some ambition FFS I'm not whingeing at all, I'm very pleased in fact. Just pointing out that it's not necessarily Nagles money that we're spending hence why people might have a concern about 'paying over the odds' If its not Nagles money, then who's could it be? they are very nice letting him spend their money if its someone elses ?
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 18, 2024 16:04:20 GMT 1
I'm not whingeing at all, I'm very pleased in fact. Just pointing out that it's not necessarily Nagles money that we're spending hence why people might have a concern about 'paying over the odds' If its not Nagles money, then who's could it be? they are very nice letting him spend their money if its someone elses ? I think Maynard is suggesting that this money becomes club debt.
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Post by royrace on Jan 18, 2024 16:06:37 GMT 1
These Warnock stories are funny, he'll be getting blamed for the problems in the Middle East before too long. Can you seriously not see from the years of history and shenanigans how Warnock could potentially be problematic to work with? You just dismiss every criticism of him out of hand. Course I can, bet he's a nightmare! Imagine trying to manage him!! But this was obvious from the outset, they knew what they were getting, he'd been there for months already! I remember thinking I don't envy Cartwright or Edwards trying to tell him what to do. The trick was to manage the situation and put your own ego away until he's done what you pay him to. Then you can have a normal relationship with the next coach. The guy is 75 FFS and a legend of the game, anyone expecting him to conform to the norms of football management in 2024 would have to be daft as a brush! Sorry but if they didn't expect to make allowances then they're naive at best.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 18, 2024 16:06:50 GMT 1
If its not Nagles money, then who's could it be? they are very nice letting him spend their money if its someone elses ? I think Maynard is suggesting that this money becomes club debt. Well if it does or doesn't , then either way we have had to pay off an owner either way or find someone to pay off the owner . Most clubs run this way these days anyways .
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Post by bluebeard on Jan 18, 2024 16:08:45 GMT 1
Its money well spent who ever we sign if we stay up, because relegation and we could be years in the doldrums again
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