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Post by arry11 on Jan 18, 2024 20:51:49 GMT 1
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Huddersfield have agreed a deal for Watford striker Rhys Healey with the player expected to sign a two-and-a-half year deal with the Terriers. #htafc #WatfordFC
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jan 18, 2024 20:54:41 GMT 1
Im optimistic about this one but it appears the only question mark is on his fitness levels. I hope he can get quickly up to speed because we can’t afford to carry another Wiles.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 18, 2024 21:07:47 GMT 1
£2m would have got Carlton Morris recently…. It would. But our chairman at the time didn’t have that. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 18, 2024 21:18:48 GMT 1
Seems madness to be paying so much for someone who was out of contract in the summer and hasn't done much since.
I'd have been fairly happy if it was loan with a view to permanent but this just feels risky for a 29 year old with fitness issues
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 18, 2024 21:25:17 GMT 1
A few Watford fans on twitter saying he is a very good player that doesn’t suit their style of play. Was a free agent in the summer and probably commanded a large signing on fee.
We needed a striker, we sign two, but some people just cannot see the positive. Dare to dream and see the positive, or be a ‘realist’ … fuck it, I’m excited and haven’t felt like this for a good few years!
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 18, 2024 21:33:29 GMT 1
I think the key point everyone seems to be missing is ‘up to’ £2m. That may not be the total fee we part with. But if some is based on performance (I.e. goals) then surely we won’t care and it will seem value. No? Valid point. I recall the Chesties offering "£13M" for Lewis O'Brien but the guaranteed part was too small and the add-ons less likely to happen. If (deliberately silly example) it's £1k up front with a further £1.999M once he scores 5 goals in the Champions League Final that's very different from £2M up front, even though they're both "£2M deals". |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 18, 2024 21:38:17 GMT 1
A few Watford fans on twitter saying he is a very good player that doesn’t suit their style of play. Was a free agent in the summer and probably commanded a large signing on fee. We needed a striker, we sign two, but some people just cannot see the positive. Dare to dream and see the positive, or be a ‘realist’ … fuck it, I’m excited and haven’t felt like this for a good few years! People are entitled to their opinions. It isn't anything to do with 'seeing the positive'. |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 18, 2024 21:38:58 GMT 1
I think the key point everyone seems to be missing is ‘up to’ £2m. That may not be the total fee we part with. But if some is based on performance (I.e. goals) then surely we won’t care and it will seem value. No? Valid point. I recall the Chesties offering "£13M" for Lewis O'Brien but the guaranteed part was too small and the add-ons less likely to happen. If (deliberately silly example) it's £1k up front with a further £1.999M once he scores 5 goals in the Champions League Final that's very different from £2M up front, even though they're both "£2M deals". And year later we sell for 8M plus his best mate 😁😁 |
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 18, 2024 21:58:30 GMT 1
A few Watford fans on twitter saying he is a very good player that doesn’t suit their style of play. Was a free agent in the summer and probably commanded a large signing on fee. We needed a striker, we sign two, but some people just cannot see the positive. Dare to dream and see the positive, or be a ‘realist’ … fuck it, I’m excited and haven’t felt like this for a good few years! People are entitled to their opinions. It isn't anything to do with 'seeing the positive'. I can’t deny you’re one of the realists I was referencing and good for you! We need people to keep us grounded don’t we, worst thing we could do is all get carried away… god forbid! Just curious, where in my post did I say people aren’t entitled to their opinion? |
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Post by savilerowtownfan on Jan 18, 2024 22:02:57 GMT 1
Valid point. I recall the Chesties offering "£13M" for Lewis O'Brien but the guaranteed part was too small and the add-ons less likely to happen. If (deliberately silly example) it's £1k up front with a further £1.999M once he scores 5 goals in the Champions League Final that's very different from £2M up front, even though they're both "£2M deals". And year later we sell for 8M plus his best mate 😁😁 And it is the “buy one get one free” that the forest fans rate very highly ! They’ve even nicked our song ! |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 18, 2024 22:07:57 GMT 1
People are entitled to their opinions. It isn't anything to do with 'seeing the positive'. I can’t deny you’re one of the realists I was referencing and good for you! We need people to keep us grounded don’t we, worst thing we could do is all get carried away… god forbid! Just curious, where in my post did I say people aren’t entitled to their opinion? Apologies, I misinterpreted your post. I usually get excited with new signing. But I feel underwhelmed with this one, mainly due to the amount we are supposedly paying. I do hope Healey proves me wrong! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 22:13:23 GMT 1
Valid point. I recall the Chesties offering "£13M" for Lewis O'Brien but the guaranteed part was too small and the add-ons less likely to happen. If (deliberately silly example) it's £1k up front with a further £1.999M once he scores 5 goals in the Champions League Final that's very different from £2M up front, even though they're both "£2M deals". And year later we sell for 8M plus his best mate 😁😁 We got full value from that last year from LOB, bar a dodgy ref, he’d have contributed massively to getting us back to the EPL. Not Hoyles fault nobody else would pay more. |
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Post by nabbysarratemyhamster on Jan 18, 2024 22:19:59 GMT 1
I think this seems like decent business but I wonder how much Notts County would want for Langstaff or Hearts for Shankland all hypothetical if not on our radar but you would of thought £2 million ish
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Post by nabbysarratemyhamster on Jan 18, 2024 22:21:20 GMT 1
Langstaff is only 26 too! But like I said £5 million wouldn’t surprise me these days even for a league two striker
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 22:22:42 GMT 1
A few Watford fans on twitter saying he is a very good player that doesn’t suit their style of play. Was a free agent in the summer and probably commanded a large signing on fee. We needed a striker, we sign two, but some people just cannot see the positive. Dare to dream and see the positive, or be a ‘realist’ … fuck it, I’m excited and haven’t felt like this for a good few years! People are entitled to their opinions. It isn't anything to do with 'seeing the positive'. I'm afraid it is really about always seeing the negative. Without hope we might as well all give up. If KN is putting the money in and trying to improve the squad then lets give them a chance. |
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 18, 2024 22:22:50 GMT 1
I think this seems like decent business but I wonder how much Notts County would want for Langstaff or Hearts for Shankland all hypothetical if not on our radar but you would of thought £2 million ish Hearts want £6m for Shankland and Healey has done it at higher levels than Langstaff |
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Post by nabbysarratemyhamster on Jan 18, 2024 22:32:51 GMT 1
I think this seems like decent business but I wonder how much Notts County would want for Langstaff or Hearts for Shankland all hypothetical if not on our radar but you would of thought £2 million ish Hearts want £6m for Shankland and Healey has done it at higher levels than Langstaff I wasn’t aware Hearts wanted that much, and whilst I agree regards the level Langstaff looks capable of cutting it at championship level. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Jan 18, 2024 22:34:23 GMT 1
Sounds like it’ll only be £2m if he hits some targets which will be a bonus for us in bid to stay up.
2 goals and an assist in 200 minutes isn’t a bad return. He looks like a goalscorer (some of his finishes at Toulouse are class). Just need to get some sort of service into him. If I was a Watford fan I’d be asking the manager why is isn’t getting more game time. For what it’s worth, Watford were absolutely turgid when we played them earlier in the season.
The Dutch lad looks to be a coup and I’m hoping this could be a really shrewd move by Town. Couple more premier league loans and it will be an impressive window imo.
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Post by pterrier on Jan 18, 2024 22:36:54 GMT 1
We won’t be paying 2million, no way. Especially considering that we couldn’t get anywhere near his wage demands in summer. There’s no way he’s going to be taking a pay cut to join us and no way that we’d pay his current wages on top of a 2 million fee.
This will be a classic case of Watford offloading someone who doesn’t suit them and us happy to run with the speculation of us paying 2 million to show that the club is putting its hand in its pocket.
Don’t let that take away from the business we are doing though. Really Happy with the signings and rationale within this window. Pacey centre back, athletic CM, goalscoring strikers. No excuses for Moore anymore, if he doesn’t deliver in the next two games then he’s got to go.
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 18, 2024 22:40:03 GMT 1
Sounds like it’ll only be £2m if he hits some targets which will be a bonus for us in bid to stay up. 2 goals and an assist in 200 minutes isn’t a bad return. He looks like a goalscorer (some of his finishes at Toulouse are class). Just need to get some sort of service into him. If I was a Watford fan I’d be asking the manager why is isn’t getting more game time. For what it’s worth, Watford were absolutely turgid when we played them earlier in the season. The Dutch lad looks to be a coup and I’m hoping this could be a really shrewd move by Town. Couple more premier league loans and it will be an impressive window imo. Can’t deny I’m already very impressed, if we sign this lad… and then a few more, it’s massively surpassed my expectations, happy days |
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 18, 2024 23:21:56 GMT 1
We won’t be paying 2million, no way. Especially considering that we couldn’t get anywhere near his wage demands in summer. There’s no way he’s going to be taking a pay cut to join us and no way that we’d pay his current wages on top of a 2 million fee. This will be a classic case of Watford offloading someone who doesn’t suit them and us happy to run with the speculation of us paying 2 million to show that the club is putting its hand in its pocket. Don’t let that take away from the business we are doing though. Really Happy with the signings and rationale within this window. Pacey centre back, athletic CM, goalscoring strikers. No excuses for Moore anymore, if he doesn’t deliver in the next two games then he’s got to go. 2 games ! He won’t be going anywhere in the near future. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 18, 2024 23:23:34 GMT 1
£2m would have got Carlton Morris recently…. Not in January. |
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Post by itkterrier on Jan 18, 2024 23:24:14 GMT 1
We won’t be paying 2million, no way. Especially considering that we couldn’t get anywhere near his wage demands in summer. There’s no way he’s going to be taking a pay cut to join us and no way that we’d pay his current wages on top of a 2 million fee. This will be a classic case of Watford offloading someone who doesn’t suit them and us happy to run with the speculation of us paying 2 million to show that the club is putting its hand in its pocket. Don’t let that take away from the business we are doing though. Really Happy with the signings and rationale within this window. Pacey centre back, athletic CM, goalscoring strikers. No excuses for Moore anymore, if he doesn’t deliver in the next two games then he’s got to go. It’s up to £2 million. Meaning if he hits targets then we’ll be paying fees to Watford, which if it happens then who will complain? |
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Post by benhomly on Jan 18, 2024 23:28:06 GMT 1
We won’t be paying 2million, no way. Especially considering that we couldn’t get anywhere near his wage demands in summer. There’s no way he’s going to be taking a pay cut to join us and no way that we’d pay his current wages on top of a 2 million fee. This will be a classic case of Watford offloading someone who doesn’t suit them and us happy to run with the speculation of us paying 2 million to show that the club is putting its hand in its pocket. Don’t let that take away from the business we are doing though. Really Happy with the signings and rationale within this window. Pacey centre back, athletic CM, goalscoring strikers. No excuses for Moore anymore, if he doesn’t deliver in the next two games then he’s got to go. It’s up to £2 million. Meaning if he hits targets then we’ll be paying fees to Watford, which if it happens then who will complain? Probably about 50% of posters on here will still complain |
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Post by portugalterrier on Jan 18, 2024 23:30:57 GMT 1
It’s up to £2 million. Meaning if he hits targets then we’ll be paying fees to Watford, which if it happens then who will complain? Probably about 50% of posters on here will still complain 75% |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 23:35:59 GMT 1
We won’t be paying 2million, no way. Especially considering that we couldn’t get anywhere near his wage demands in summer. There’s no way he’s going to be taking a pay cut to join us and no way that we’d pay his current wages on top of a 2 million fee. This will be a classic case of Watford offloading someone who doesn’t suit them and us happy to run with the speculation of us paying 2 million to show that the club is putting its hand in its pocket. Don’t let that take away from the business we are doing though. Really Happy with the signings and rationale within this window. Pacey centre back, athletic CM, goalscoring strikers. No excuses for Moore anymore, if he doesn’t deliver in the next two games then he’s got to go. I think 2 games might be a bit unrealistic. We haven’t signed this lad yet and our new CB only arrived today. It will take a little time to bed the new players in. I think we will see an improvement quite quickly though. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 19, 2024 0:17:06 GMT 1
He’s also a throw in expert
This could a new dimension to some of our attacks with the giants we have on the books at centre back along with Radulovic and even Burzorg if he ends up mostly on the wing
Found this. No idea on the choice of music but gives you an idea. Longer throw than Richard Logan for those old enough to remember him
https://www.tiktok.com/@wd18fans/video/7310712317547793697
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jan 19, 2024 0:37:15 GMT 1
If we are to play 2 up top I guess we are sticking with a 532 where's sorba gonna play to provide the ammunition ( not wing back he's not v good there) I think the players will need to be more mobile regarding formation. No reason why a 4 with Spencer and Nakayama out wide can’t shift to a three if required and the winger drop back to cover, or Hogg or Matos drop back to make up numbers. One of the reasons we struggle is because the current squad are not good at that, and they can be a bit rigid to their positions because they are not very confident. Hopefully better players throughout the team will allow us to change shape as required. We’ve got Darren Moore, not Pep. There’s not a tactic in sight. |
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Post by ritchie on Jan 19, 2024 3:26:24 GMT 1
I think he will be a very good buy.
Even if it's the reported fee (i doubt), sometimes a player is worth the fee for the contract length - even if they walk away at the end of it. people get a bit obsessed with resale.. its good to have some players we can develop and sell on in the squad, but feel we need a slightly better balance than we have had under the previous plan; which seemed to be spend on 'project players' then scrabble for free/past it signings.
Its refreshing to see,
He will be in his prime and therfore likely to benefit the 'project players'
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 19, 2024 6:40:50 GMT 1
I can't see what's not to like, his goals to game ratio is pretty decent. Hope we get this one over the line.
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